Planned Parenthood Abortionist Haggles over Payments for “Intact Fetal Specimens” in New Video

By Anika Smith Published on July 21, 2015

Today a new video was released showing Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s Medical Directors’ Council President, Dr. Mary Gatter, negotiating the price points for intact fetal specimens and offering to use a “less crunchy technique” to get more intact body parts.

Last week’s video showing Planned Parenthood Senior Director of Medical Services Deborah Nucatola blithely discussing dismembering children in the womb and harvesting their organs for sale launched a movement to investigate and possibly defund America’s largest abortion provider.

Planned Parenthood has responded by trying to discredit the undercover investigators, led by the Center for Medical Progress’s David Daleiden. They claim that heavy editing misleads viewers, and that the prices Nucatola mentions only cover incidental costs relating to the transport and preservation of the tiny baby body parts.

Those claims fall apart when you watch this second video. As the press release below the video explains:

Gatter is a senior official within Planned Parenthood and is President of the Medical Directors’ Council, the central committee of all Planned Parenthood affiliate medical directors.

Actors posing as buyers ask Gatter, “What would you expect for intact tissue?”

“Well, why don’t you start by telling me what you’re used to paying,” Gatter replies.

Gatter continues: “You know, in negotiations whoever throws out the figure first is at a loss, right?” She explains, “I don’t want to lowball, because I’m used to low things,” before suggesting “$75 a specimen.”

While Gatter twice recites Planned Parenthood messaging on fetal tissue collection, that “We’re not in it for the money,” and “The money is not the important thing,” she immediately qualifies each statement with, respectively, “But what were you thinking of?” and “But it has to be big enough that it’s worthwhile for me.”

There’s a world of difference between “not for profit” and “worthwhile for me.” Particularly when you take this into consideration:

Let me just figure out what others are getting, and if this is in the ballpark, then it’s fine, if it’s still low, then we can bump it up. I want a Lamborghini.

The Lamborghini reference is a joke, of course, but the routine way in which Gatter negotiates is not. Federal law prohibits selling or purchasing human fetal tissue (also known as baby livers, lungs, etc.).

Another point that is clear from the video: this abortion doctor is clearly willing to change the abortion procedure based on the selling of human parts, saying that she would ask the surgeon to use an IPAS (a manual vacuum aspirator) to “increase the odds that he’s going to get an intact specimen.”

While the first video was disturbing for the cavalier way Dr. Nucatola discussed dismemberment over wine, the tone of this video is chillingly businesslike. It is clear from Dr. Gatter’s conversation that she knows how price setting for fetal parts works, and how to bargain with fetal parts buyers. She even mentions asking around at other affiliates in the area to see what prices they are getting, to make sure she gets the market rate for “specimens.”

This is damning. No wonder Planned Parenthood is refusing to provide Dr. Nucatola to brief the congressional committee investigating the case. With a video like this, however, the committee may have all that it needs.

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  • jstan442

    this is a predator–looking to exchange organs from babies for a piece of metal–she will not enjoy hell–being alone with her thoughts and knowing she will never get out–never see another-knowing she could have been saved but thinking it was a scam

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