Evangelists, Private Jets, Generosity and Stewardship

There are four unhealthy reactions to Duplantis' announcement. Here are two questions we should ask instead.

By Michael Brown Published on June 11, 2018

As followers of Jesus, how should we react to the news that Jesse Duplantis claims that God told him to buy a $54 million jet for his ministry?

Should we condemn him for taking the prosperity message to its logical extreme? Should we say, “That’s between him and God?” Or should we say, “How do I help the man of God travel in style? Where do I give?”

According to Duplantis, he wasn’t asking his followers for money. Rather, he wanted to inform them so they could believe God with him for the jet. And, he said, “I’m not asking you to pay for my plane.”

Regardless of why he made the initial announcement (I’ll leave that between him and God), let’s look at four unhealthy reactions to his announcement. Then, I’ll suggest the real questions we need to ask.

Unhealthy Reaction #1: Hyper-Gullibility 

The first unhealthy reaction is based on hyper-gullibility. “We dare not question the man of God. If he says God told him, then it must be so. We don’t want to touch the anointed.”

In my newest book, Playing with Holy Fire, I noted that gullibility was one of the hallmark weaknesses of the Pentecostal-Charismatic church. (I say this as an insider, not an outsider.) It’s the flip side of one of our hallmark strengths, which is faith. But it is a dangerous flip side.

God calls us to discernment, to mature faith. Everything must be tested by the Word of God.

If we believe whatever our leaders tell us, no matter how outlandish, we could end up in a Jim Jones-type personality cult. If we test things by the Word of God (and by other practical tools the Lord gives us), we will save ourselves a lot of trouble.

Unhealthy Reaction #2: Hyper-Criticism

The second unhealthy reaction is based on hyper-criticism. Some Christian critics have already damned Duplantis to hell. To paraphrase, “This is proof he’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing! We always knew he was a deceiver.”

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Actually, unless we can show that he himself is not a true Christian leader — either by his doctrine or by his life — then this one announcement does not prove that he is a false teacher. Let his ministry (along with all of our ministries) be evaluated fairly, biblically, and comprehensively.

For critics to jump to sweeping conclusions about a leader based on this one announcement is no better than for charismatics to believe everything that leader says.

Unhealthy Reaction #3: Hyper-Prosperity

The third unhealthy reaction is based on hyper-prosperity. “God wants the best for His children,” some say. “So, if you’re going to get a private jet for your ministry, get the best. God is not a pauper!”

This appears to be a principle Paul and his colleagues failed to master. He wrote,

Up to the present hour we are both hungry and thirsty; we are poorly clothed, roughly treated, homeless; we labor, working with our own hands. When we are reviled, we bless; when we are persecuted, we endure it; when we are slandered, we respond graciously. Even now, we are like the world’s garbage, like the dirt everyone scrapes off their sandals. (1 Cor. 4:11-13)

I address this hyper-prosperity mentality (along with the “superstar leaders” syndrome) in Playing with Holy Fire as well.

Unhealthy Reaction #4: Hyper-Poverty

The fourth unhealthy reaction is based on hyper-poverty. By this I mean the attitude that the less you have, the holier you are. This mindset does not produce generosity. It does not increase faith. And it does not advance the cause of the gospel.

I was speaking with a ministry colleague who heads up a massive evangelistic work. He mentioned a famous prosperity preacher to me and said, “This guy has probably given $50 million to our ministry over the years. He practices what he preaches.”

In stark contrast, those who embrace a poverty mentality, who have a hard time receiving financial blessings from God, give very little to the work of the gospel. They feel guilty for every good thing they have, forgetting that Paul knew how to have a little as well as to have a lot (see Phil 4:12).

Because of their restrictive, guilt-ridden mindset, they are constantly in need, always looking to receive and rarely able to give. They are the polar opposite of hyper-prosperity.

Two Important Questions

That being said, the fact that a prosperity preacher gives away millions of dollars does not justify his message. It simply indicates that he preaches generosity and practices generosity.

On the flip side, the idea that we need to make life difficult for ministers of the gospel is absurd. Better to have a car that runs than a car that breaks down. Better to spend an extra $250 on a direct flight than to save the money and spend the night sleeping on the airport floor.

The fact that a prosperity preacher gives away millions of dollars does not justify his message. On the flip side, the idea that we need to make life difficult for ministers of the gospel is absurd.

And that leads me to the two questions I have regarding Jesse Duplantis’s announcement.

I don’t know him personally and I only heard him preach in person one time, several decades ago. And I’m not here to present a critique (or defense) of his ministry. I simply want to ask two questions.

Question #1: Stewardship

First, is it good stewardship of his ministry funds to spend $54 million on a private jet, plus the millions of dollars it will cost every year to maintain and use it? If a private jet is legitimately needed due to his travel schedule (God and his board know; I don’t), does it have to be this expensive? As servants of the Lord, do we need to travel in such luxury? It’s true that God’s funds are unlimited. But our own ministry funds are not.

Choices must be made, and by saving an unnecessary expense, we can free up funds for other gospel work (like providing full-time support for some Indian tribal pastors at $50 a month).

When I go overseas to speak, my assistant shops for the best business class fares available, or we use miles for upgrades. At present, I’ve been overseas more than 160 times, sometimes with consecutive trips just days apart. Such travel is quite grueling, regardless of where on the plane you sit. The first 50-60 trips, I virtually always flew economy. The last 100 or so, I’ve virtually always flown business, often at the expense of those inviting me.

But with the intensity of my schedule (which I wouldn’t wish on others) and with my height, it’s a good investment to make. Yet it would not be a good investment for us to own a private plane, even an old one.

The point is that every ministry and organization has to evaluate how to disperse the funds it receives. Stewardship is the key word here.

Question #2: Reproach to the Gospel

My second question is this: Does Jesse Duplantis’s announcement bring reproach to the gospel? Does it make it more difficult for other Christian leaders to raise funds for their work? Does it play into the image of the self-serving, manipulative televangelist?

In the end, if God told Jesse to believe Him for a $54 million jet, and if the Lord gives him that jet in response to his faith, so be it.

My recommendation is that, in such cases, we follow Paul’s guidelines set forth in Romans 14 (in a different context): “The faith you have, keep to yourself before God” (Rom. 14:22). There’s no reason to announce it to the world.

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  • A Cater

    James 5:1-3
    [1]Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.
    [2]Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten.
    [3]Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.

    • Margaret Jaeger

      DuPlantis isn’t talking about His riches, he’s talking about the riches of the ministry. So condemning him because of the use he wants to put ministry supporting donations to doesn’t seem to be the right point. Abraham was a rich man, a servant worthy of his hire. Do you condemn him also…seeing as how he claims God made him rich..?

      • A Cater

        Hi Margaret, thanks for your reply, actually I wasn’t condemning anyone, rather just quoting the Word of God for purposes of reflection & food for thought. We are living in the Laodicean church age which is characterised in Rev 3:17 as one of material prosperity but spiritual wretchedness. I would agree with Michael that the necessity of a jet is rather dubious to say the least. I am not sure Abraham’s possessions under the Abrahamic covenant would equal that of multi millionaire “preachers”. I feel it is appropriate to use God’s Word as our guide in our lives. Here are the words our blessed we would do well to reflect upon :
        Mark 10:23 ” How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of “

        • childofjehovah

          So a 54 million dollar plane is to expensive for God, He cant afford it?

          • A Cater

            That’s not the question, rather is it the will of God? Is it necessary? Is it excessive, especially on an ongoing basis? Just my opinion of course, based on my understanding of God’s Word, I would have to agree with Michael. Others will have to make their own judgement.

          • childofjehovah

            You didn’t answer my question, can God not afford a 54 million dollar plane?

          • A Cater

            “The earth is the Lord’s and the fullness thereof ” Psalm 24:01. so yes, but is it God’s perfect will based on the Word of God? On the basis of Mark 10:23 alone, I would have to think not. Others obviously may not agree.

          • childofjehovah

            You making this way to complicated. My question is simple. Do you believe God can afford a 54 million dollar plane or is that to much for Him?

          • A Cater

            Not complicated at all. The Lord created and possesses the heavens & the earth and only allows His creation the use of it. I said yes to your question in my last response . I would encourage all to make judgements only after careful consideration of what God’s Word has to say.

          • Margaret Jaeger

            I don’t think your selected verse applies in this instance. The verse you selected has more to do with those who have collected money in the worldly realm, people like Soros, billionaires and lesser millionaires who think their great wealth is going to ‘save them’ from whatever comes upon this world. That is Not a wealthy Christian ministry. You know that but refuse to see it.

            The DuPlantis ministry and personal wealth have been used to bless other ministries, and, take care of his family and many strangers. Wrote all this previously, the ministry donates Lots of monies to other ministries and they have their own ‘sub-ministries’ they take care of too…plus their parishioners and their church property.

            As comparing to Father Abraham and his wealth, he didn’t have jets of course but I’d guess he had a Lot of camels, chariots,,traveling vans he used for himself, his family and others in need. Both he and DuPlantis claim God gave them the blessings of riches that they have. DuPlantis tells people what he does with his own salary on purpose,,not as bragging,,but as what he does with that which he Earns. He blesses his family and others with it. It ought to belay questions and jealousies but some still choose to see it as bragging. People of the Bible also did this,,for the same reasons…gave and told others so they’d know that God’s money is being used to bring God glory…in living it out and in telling the truth of the Bible’s story.

            Yet it seems so many Christians are determined to make a wealthy ministry into misers and kings of glorying over Their wealth…which is usually not what happens within most of those ministries. Is that not judgements? Is it from jealousy..? Is it still from the belief that we all ought to be poor as church mice or middle class only..? If people criticizing wealthy ministries would only research as to where the money goes,,they’d at least have some correct info, not the assumptions that are used to cause dissension amongst the troops of God’s army.

            Did God assign anyone amongst us to be the judges of where and what those funds are to be spent on..? How many of us even consult God as to where our own funds should go? Did God assign any of us to decide what was necessary for any ministry?

            If this were a ministry that took people’s money, begged all the time for more but did nothing for those people, I feel sure I’d gripe too. I’ve known a few ministries who did this and some who still do…..and of them, those were exposed for doing that and many have gone down in flames.

            What inspires Christians to be so critical of wealthy Christians?? And what inspires others to join in the criticism, thereby creating schisms in Christianity? Is it jealousy and envy…? Shame on all of us who do or have done such.

            Find another or more verses that compliment people for using the great wealth God gave them to help others please.

          • Kevin Quillen

            I think the problem is that these prosperity preachers are twisting scripture and using it out of context to entice people to give. When the givers are not blessed as taught, they are left feeling inadequate and thinking something is wrong with them. Part of the name it claim it message becomes that one who does not receive a harvest must have unforgiven sin, too little faith, of something in their life that causes the reap what you sow(money) not to work. This is very destructive to Christians who have not grown to the point to see through this sham. It is intentional. It is evil. Using verses like Luke 6:38 and the parable of the sower is intentionally twisting scripture to get a response. I have even heard Deut 1:11 used! The concept of seed and harvest is used constantly and is deceptive. They intentionally prey on the unlearned. While it is the responsibility of each Christian to learn, it is still wrong to prey on them.

          • Margaret Jaeger

            Gods laws of giving …. aren’t they give to the Lord’s causes andHe shake repay you 10’fold, a hundred fold…etc.? You know when secular businesses also follow Gods principles, they thrive… there it may be called …spend money to make money….which means take care of your business and employees and the needs of the company upkeep, and even to advertising. It’s Gods laws that have been skewed by unprospering people who don’t use His laws for their own benefit. It’s not …something is wrong with them, or they’re in sin which puts up a road block…tho sometimes related to aspects of those…it’s not following God’s laws of giving and receiving. So many of us find that hard to apply to our every day lives.

  • Howard Rosenbaum

    Well typically it seems that God usually brings in the financial support through the hands ( & hearts ) of others. That’s obvious , & likely the reason it was announced & not kept to oneself as Mr Brown considered.
    I get the concern being raised in varying degrees by various expressions of the faith community.
    Some of those concerns are blatant attacks on the ministry of Mr Duplantis. Others perhaps not so much.
    Yet to reduce Gods provision to little more than mere natural fiscal resources predicted upon human ability & conformity to an American church culture which is both variable as well as less than absolute is mistaken.
    We as the church have in many things fallen just a bit short of Gods perspective regarding practically everything. Particularly where financial responsibility is concerned.
    By responsibility I’m referring not to mishandling funds, though that has been a subject where the church has been found wanting on occasion. I’m referencing rather the capacity to appropriate A God kind of faith in these matters. One which few have attained to . Though one which some have aspired to . One which in the aspiration they have reached for & in a measure have come closer to that “supernatural “ objective than all of the critics combined.
    Consequently those who do approach that lofty standard are always the greatest givers as well . Regardless of any perceptions of “ self indulgence “ ….

  • john appleseed

    Media reports say Duplantis already has three other jets.

    Related: Kenneth Copeland said he refuses to fly commercial because he says it’s a tube full of demons. Well, he’s the one with demons. Or at least doctrines of demons.
    If he thinks he’s too good to be with sinners, he’s full of pride, and he doesn’t know Jesus, who always mingled with sinners and shined his light on them.

    • Tilda Harder

      I agree, John, I watched that video. Those people in that jet are people that Jesus died for. Not a tube of demons. He and Jesse, are very arrogant. There is an atmosphere of haughtiness not humbleness. It is entitlement not servant hood. It is a fast food Gospel being preached with the dominant theme being prosperity, not salvation. Health, and not suffering. I have learned so much thru suffering. So much about God’s faithfulness. I am ashamed of this Gospel that is being preached, and the doctrine is errant.

    • Jim

      You might want to be very careful. If Copeland is a man of God, and works through the power of the Holy Spirit, you are very much in danger of committing blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

      • Boris

        Blasphemy is a victimless crime.

      • Jacob Miller

        >> If Copeland is a man of God, and works through the power of the Holy
        Spirit, you are very much in danger of committing blasphemy against the
        Holy Spirit.

        The bigger danger, it seems to me, is equating Copeland with the Holy Spirit.

        • Jim

          No, you don’t commit the unpardonable sin by mistaking a sinner for a saint. You do commit the unpardonable sin by crediting the work of the Holy Spirit to the Devil or demons.
          You can challenge his doctrine biblically, but what is being done here is mostly emotional smear tactics. Everyone wants to practice soundbyte theology so they don’t have to actually think about the Bible or deal with deeper questions or even study the text.
          Name calling is always the sign of someone who either can’t actually make an argument or has a very weak argument.

          • Margaret Jaeger

            Sorry but that’s a wrong assumption….the Only unforgivable sin is the act of refusing to let the Holy Spirit speak thru the mouth of the chosen ones when standing before the accusers. The Only one. All …ALL other sins are forgiveable…by God…on earth or in His heavenly presence.

      • Kevin Quillen

        ” If Copeland is a man of God”. Have you actually studied what Copeland teaches? If you do so, you will soon see that he is NOT a man of God.

        • Jim

          Sound bytes don’t disprove his theology. If you want to be taken seriously, refute him point by point with scripture and sound exposition.
          I belive that he preaches something more akin to a paganized Christianity that lets you manipulate God to get your way, but I don’t resort to the name calling, I provide a reasoned defense of the Gospel.

          • Kevin Quillen

            he teaches words have creative power and that we are gods. he uses Ps 82:6. he says Jesus was born again. he says that when God says “I Am” that he is too. I do not make judgments on “sound bites”. Have watched him and his ilk for years. Kenneth Copeland, Jesse Duplantis, Joyce Meyer, Creflo Dollar, et al, are disciples of Kenneth Hagin, as were the Crouches. Kenneth Hagin was the first disciple of Kenyon, the one most responsible for the name it claim it movement.

      • Margaret Jaeger

        Another judgement. Not really a discernment.

    • Dena

      What’s wrong with his other 3 jets? Why does he need 4?

    • Margaret Jaeger

      Judgement such as this belongs to God alone.

  • David Hess

    I’ve reached out to Jesse Duplantis to see if I can “hitch a ride” for some of my ministry events. I haven’t heard back yet.

  • Boris

    Duplantis, Mike Murdock, Benny Hinn, Peter Popoff, Copeland are doing nothing different than what the writers of the New Testament and the early Church “Fathers” (Read charlatans) did. We’re supposed to believe that back when people were even more gullible and superstitious that the purveyors of the Christian superstition were honest and above board with everything they did and wrote and said. That is just absurd and there is not a shred of evidence that that is the case. We know the pagans described the Christians at carnivals and public events playing tricks on the ignorant in order to indoctrinate them into this cult of stupidity and ignorance. They tormented small children when they could and left them as soon as adults showed up. All this is well documented. Look it up.

    • Jim

      The pagans had an axe to grind since Christianity was making converts of their parishioners. In addition, the pagans performed magic tricks in order to keep their people under thier power which makes it very likely that they were projecting.
      You are obviously grinding an axe of your own since you seem to have bought this without ever thinking critically about the possibility that pagans would lie while Christians are prohibited from fraud, deceit and the very appearance of evil. There are at least as many reports that shout the praises of Christians’ high morals as you will find of pagans who have every incentive to discredit their competition.

      • Boris

        Oh please the New Testament is the biggest fraud ever pulled. The Christian religion has always been the world’s largest fabrication factory. We have a church, a religion that produced texts that claim God took human and came to Earth to found their particular Church and religion. No, nothing suspicious about that. The history of fakes and frauds produced by your religion is endless, shroud man. Look at all the gospels and letters that did not make it into the Bible. What are those? Why are they not “scripture” too I wonder? The forgeries done in the works of Josephus by Church propagandist Eusebius is typical of the history of your religion. High morals my eye. All religions began as misinterpreted mythology but charlatans quickly figure out how to take advantage of the ignorant just as your present day cult leaders bilk you for your wages. Nothing has changed.

        • Patmos

          It’s like you’ve read every easily debunked theory, and believed it. Who exactly is the fool here? (Hint: It’s you)

          • Boris

            Debunk away. Or go away. Your choice. Oh that’s right, you’re not allowed to make choices.

          • Jim

            Free will is the heart of the Christian message, you can accept or reject it as you want. That is biblical, predestination is a distortion of that message.

          • Boris

            Using experiments and demonstrations (you creationists hate those because you can’t do them)
            neuroscientists have been able to show that human free will is actually an illusion. Once again scientific data kicks your religion right in the teeth. You people have been spinning the most absurd lies about evolution, Darwin and modern science for the last 150 years so it should be quite easy for such experienced liars like those at the Discovery Institute to come up with a whole new batch of lies about neuroscience. And you will happily repeat them won’t you? Go ahead get started. I want to see. I don’t think any of your cult leaders have gotten the news yet. Phase one is just to ignore it and try to pray it away but once the stuff hits the fan and the public gets wind of this oh boy will the waterfall of dishonesty from fundamentalist Christians open the floodgates. This time however the river will drown what is left of this evil and false religion. Don’t go down with it.

          • Jim

            Actually, science kicks atheism in the teeth. There has never been any experiment that supports evolution. Nor can actual neuroscience didprove free will. Science can’t even begin to explain human consciousness.
            You really should read some of the scientific papers on the mechanics of evolution. Oh, sorry, you can’t because there are none. Evolution is strangely missing from the fossil record. Darwin predicted that the whole fossil record would be nothimg but transitional forms, yet what we see after 150 years of paleontology is the opposite. The problem is so great that science had to come up with a new theory called Punctuated Equilibrium to explain why nothing was changing. The problem with this is that there are still no species that demonstrate transitions; when a new fossil is found, it is completely developed. Dolphins and seals are dolphins and seals from the beginning, there are no fossils of something between say, a dog, and a sea mammal.
            Michael Behe, who is not a creationist by any means, wrote a whole book called Darwin’s Black Box where he destroys the whole idea of evolution producing chemical processes or structures by simply pointing out that something like an eye works only with all of its parts intact. This means that the eye would have had to develop every structure and chemical in it that is necessary for sight simultaneously or there is no evolutionary advantage. A cornea without a lens, optic nerve, etc. is useless. BTW, he holds Ph.Ds in biochemistry and cellular biology. You should read his book after you take a few courses in science.
            The discovery of DNA should have nailed the coffin shut on evolution. DNA allows for microevolution, the ability of an organism to adapt to its environment which is what Darwin saw. What it cannot due is macroevolution, changing one species to another. That requires the addition of new information into the genes of an animal, something that requires intelligence. What Darwin proposed was the equivalent of taking Windows 98, rearranging the letters of the computer code, and getting a working Windows 10. Even mutations can’t create that kind of change because they do not add to the DNA, they only rearrange what is already present.
            Your understanding of science is somewhat lacking. No one has attacked evolution with made up evidence. That is why evolutionists loose every debate with creationists. Evolution is not science.

          • Boris

            Your post is hilarious! Every Christian college and university in the world that teaches life sciences, even places like Wheaton College, teaches evolution and they have for over a century, since before the Scopes trial. So my suggestion is that you take all of your rhetoric to the science department of the closest Christian college or university and demand they stop teaching that dang evolution stuff and replace it with your talking snake – magic tree – rib woman “science.” Please tell us about all the advances in biology, medicine, immunology, fishery management, crop management, pest management and so on that creation “science” will bring us. If you want to replace evolution with something it better produce some results and advance science and make the world a better place like our knowledge of Natural Selection has. LeHigh is a Christian school so let’s see what they have to say about Michael Behe:

            “The faculty in the Department of Biological Sciences is committed to the highest standards of scientific integrity and academic function. This commitment carries with it unwavering support for academic freedom and the free exchange of ideas. It also demands the utmost respect for the scientific method, integrity in the conduct of research, and recognition that the validity of any scientific model comes only as a result of rational hypothesis testing, sound experimentation, and findings that can be replicated by others.
            The department faculty, then, are unequivocal in their support of evolutionary theory, which has its roots in the seminal work of Charles Darwin and has been supported by findings accumulated over 140 years. The sole dissenter from this position, Prof. Michael Behe, is a well-known proponent of “intelligent design.” While we respect Prof. Behe’s right to express his views, they are his alone and are in no way endorsed by the department. It is our collective position that intelligent design has no basis in science, has not been tested experimentally, and should not be regarded as scientific.”
            You Bible thumpers expect we atheists to accept you ridiculous anti-science nonsense when you can’t even get your own academic community to listen to you. So let us know when you can convince the Christian academic community to stop teaching evolution in their science classes and replace it with your creationist hokum. Until then you are wasting your time.

          • Jim

            Instead of ranting like a madman, why don’t you read someone who doesn’t agree with your position. I have raised some very relevant scientific issues which you choose to ridicule because you apparently have no desire to actually see if the arguments have merit. I have read and understand both sides of the argument and stand by the point that evolution is impossible. The science must follow the evidence and there is no evidence for evolution. Period. Those points I raised aren’t the only issues. There are many problems raised by scientists that are being glossed over because of the implications. This is not science!

          • Boris

            The refutation of all creationist claims can be found at Index to Creationist Claims. I suggest you look them all up and stop wasting your life in intellectual servitude to provably false beliefs. Every creationist claim is retarded.

          • Margaret Jaeger

            There is No disagreement with Real science and Judeo-Christian Biblical info in texts. Science today is a large part of claims that are also unrepeatable and many presented as theories which an eager atheistic world immediately surmises as being the whole truth…when theories mean just that…it’s a theory but unprovable bybreoeat experimentation. In fact, and history, Darwinism was a Dream of fanatics readily trying to glean God beliefs out of any science and out of any education. The whole of Darwinism is the lie as real science has proved that species do not evolve into other species but they do evolve into different sizes, shapes and colors Within the species….not changing into another species. We do not have 90 percent in common with apes, as the most modern DNA shows,,that’s a skewed figure. We have about 90 items similar to apes but the rest of our DNA is more in the range of 1000% differences. So the figures used actually referred to just a few similarities in behaviors. The fallacy of Darwinism is provable by history reading how it was grabbed by atheists and skewed then assimilated into cultural school books of the day. It was quite popular as presented tompeople whomhad trouble believing mankind was a special creation by an all,powerful eternal being whom they had never seen.

          • Boris

            Evolution by Natural Selection is taught in every Christian college and university that teaches life sciences and has been for over a century. SMU, Pepperdine, Notre Dame, Brigham Young, even Wheaton College. All of them. Evolution is the foundation of biology as well as immunology, medicine, crop management, pest management, fishery management and so on. Scientific theories have to produce results and they prove themselves to be true by doing just that. Google “Lysenkoism” and read very carefully what happened in Russia when Joseph Stalin fired and jailed 3000 evolutionary biologists and tried to use pseudoscience to turn barley into wheat and weeds into crops. 20,000 people starved because of Stalin’s rejection of Darwinian Evolution by Natural Selection. Not nice to fool with Mother Nature. On the other hand creation magic and Intelligent Design Magic are religion, not science and therefore its promoters cannot tell us how these hoaxes can advance science. Maybe they can turn weeds into corn huh? It’s magic! Creation Magic and ID Magic are useless unless your intention is to confuse and brainwash an already scientifically ignorant American public. I can see this has been done to you. My suggestion would be to visit the science department of any Christian college or university and tell them your complaints and demand they stop teaching that dang evolution stuff and replace that in biology class with your magic tree – talking snake – rib woman “science” and tell them about all the advances in science we can make by believing Hebrew poetry is science.

        • Jacob Miller

          >> Oh please the New Testament is the biggest fraud ever pulled.

          Hyperbole much? The New Testament isn’t some singular document with a singular “fraud.” . It’s a canon of narratives, pastoral letters, personal letters, and an apocalyptic vision.

          • Boris

            It’s not like that and you know it. The New Testament is the supposed cream of the crop of hundreds of gospels and letters and end times madness, most of which are even more obviously fraudulent than what the Church finally distilled out of it. We know the source material for the authors of Matthew and Luke was Mark and their own imaginations and religious agenda or you might call it their version of the Christian message. So that casts some doubt on the veracity of the texts right there. Then we know some of the letters attributed to Paul were not actually written by him, didn’t show up until centuries after the others and reflect Fourth Century Church theology rather than that of the Second Century.
            “If the evidence supports the historical accuracy of the gospels, where is the need for faith? And if the historical reliability of the gospels is so obvious, why have so many scholars failed to appreciate the incontestable nature of the evidence?” – Robert W. Funk (1926-2005) – Vanderbilt University

          • Kevin Quillen

            Boris; why exactly do you post on a Christian site? If you choose darkness instead of light, fine. That is your choice. You seem to want to cause trouble and argument. You are not very nice and should leave this site. You are wasting your time and showing your mean spirited ignorance. I hope you find peace through Christ someday.

          • Boris

            You called me an asshat and say I am not nice. I told Jesus on you and he said to give you a message. “I never knew you.” I guess I
            I’ll see you in hell.

          • Margaret Jaeger

            What a nightmare that must have been….

          • Chip Crawford

            Flag – some moderators take heed to that

          • Margaret Jaeger

            I see a common thread here in the idea that some of the letters weren’t written by those who were accredited….many teachers,,preachers and evangelist had scribes… male secretaries who wrote down as dictated to them but manyntimes, not by the very word said to them. Manynwere secualrists and had no idea what many Hebrew idioms meant sonthey wrote in their own interpretations, then and thrunthe later centuries. We often hear that men wrote the Bible, even referring to the old Testament..when what we know is that they Transcribed what was dictated to them or they dictated to their scribes as they received it from God. To continually say men wrote the Bible has given many secularist the idea that it is a book made up by the thoughts and ideas of men and added to with each decade and century it existed, which is not the truth. Josephus provides proof of the history with his writings which aren’t canonized as Biblical either. It’s good to read the side historians accounts of history they have gleaned with their research of the times they were closer to than we are because of the very fact they prove the Biblical narratives.

        • Jim

          No, atheism is the biggest fraud ever pulled and you prove it. The truth is that you still believe in a god, but that God is you. You can’t stand the idea that there is a being who is more powerful than you and who would dare to tell you what you have to do, so you dethrone God and place yourself in his place.
          The text of the New Testament was decided for the most part, by practically universal consent of the leaders of the church shortly after around AD 100. It is possible to reconstruct about 95% of the New Testament from quotes in sermons and letters that survive from that time period and forward. The canon was only officially codified later because a man named Marcion was trying to remove the entirety of the Old Testament and several of the books considered canonical by the consensus of the vast majority of the church leaders, not to keep out or discard books.
          Those alternative books you seem to think were voted put were never considered to be Christian. They were never quoted except to be refuted by reason as nonsensical and by Bible as heresy.

          Since you want to talk about atheism, what has atheism ever given the world? Besides the 100,000,000 plus dead it’s practitioners in communist countries managed to kill in less than a century.
          By contrast, what you call evil gave the world hospitals, orphanages, the university, and homes for the retired and infirmed. Christianity birthed modern science as a complementary source of truth to theology. It’s desire to alleviate human suffering led to the science of modern medicine. Today, disaster relief services like Samaritan’s Purse, the Red Cross and Operation Blessing are on the scene before government and provide aid without charge, discrimination or obligation to people whose lives have been destroyed.
          Christianity abolished slavery in America and the British Empire. It championed the cause of compulsory universal education and literacy for children. It even gave us the principles of liberty, limited government and freedom that you waste to demonstrate your lack of study on Christian websites. The list of good deeds of Christianity goes on and on as a profession of our faith and of the reality of a living God who changes our very being to desire to do good to others. Even the pagans of the first century documented that characteristic.
          Now, what exactly has atheism given us?

          • Boris

            >No, atheism is the biggest fraud ever pulled and you prove it.
            No, an atheist is one who has not fallen for the biggest fraud ever pulled and you prove it.
            >The truth is that you still believe in a god, blah, blah, blah…
            If God wants to tell me what to do I am willing to listen. I am not willing to listen to people like you or anybody else who claim to speak for God. You couldn’t possibly know any more than a 5 year old child does about God. A neither does or did anybody else.

            >The text of the New Testament ….. heresy.
            This is a fallacy free zone. I’m not allowing the No True Scotsman Fallacy. Those books were written by Christians and that makes them Christian books. You’re just afraid to admit that they were written by Christian hoaxers because we would have no reason to assume the books in the New Testament were not written by the same kind of charlatans. they were. The Church wrote the New Testament.

            >Since you want to talk about atheism, what has atheism ever given the world?
            Besides the 100,000,000 plus dead it’s practitioners in communist countries managed to kill in less than a century.
            Marxism and communism are faiths just like Christianity only they are secular faiths. Christian propagandists have gone to great lengths to conflate atheism with communism. I disagree with their claim that communism is any kind of atheistic philosophy. Communism simply replaced the omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent God of Christianity with the omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent State government. The State is supposedly all good, all wise and all powerful. So communism is just as nuts as Christianity with its unrealistic utopian fantasies and pie-in-the sky promises. Stalinist Russia and Maoist China were certainly guilty of many terrible human rights violations. However no atheist either one of us knows would defend this kind of political repression. Not even the current leaders, we’ll assume they are atheists too, of these nations will defend the barbaric actions of their predecessors. These human rights violations stemmed from the communist leader’s power mad political ambitions, not from some philosophical conviction that their citizens needed to be indoctrinated with an atheistic worldview or an academic conviction that religion needed to be done away with because it contradicts the laws of physics. If atheism is to be held responsible for political repression in Russia and China then Christianity is definitely responsible for the atrocities of the Crusades, Inquisitions, witch hunts, heresy hunting and the Holocaust. I’ll ask you again if you think it is fair to condemn an ideology, school of thought or religion for perversions and abuses of its teachings. I Think I already refuted this tired old argument for you once. But instead of answering my objections you simply repeated the same old argument over again. Now this is a very common and unethical debating tactic used by fundamentalist Christians. These unethical debating tactics reflect the kind of morality one gets from backward, superstitious animal sacrificing primitives as well as the fact your claims are completely bogus and a sign of desperation.
            >By contrast, what you call evil gave the world hospitals, orphanages,….science of modern medicine.
            That is absolutely NOT true. I am so sick of you Christians trying to give your religion credit for inventing things that other people invented. When Marco Polo visited China in 1271, he found a place far more technologically advanced than anywhere in Western Europe. The Chinese were 200 years ahead of the Christians in Europe in the discipline of medical science and in caring for the sick. They had already invented the abacus, canals and locks, gunpowder and fireworks, kites, paper money, the spinning wheel, printing presses, roads and hotels, suspension bridges, porcelain, movable sails and rudders, the crossbow, the compass, stirrups, the umbrella, metal clocks, alcohol and on and on. Marco Polo and the Europeans had never seen or even dreamed of these things. Not only that the Chinese were centuries ahead of the Christians in astronomy, physics, chemistry, meteorology, seismology, technology, engineering and mathematics ALL of which trace their origins to China and NOT Europe. Also the Chinese invented the concept of zero which was banned in Europe by the Church because of its obvious connotations. You really should research the propaganda your Christian apologists crank out before you repeat the garbage and get humiliated by an atheist in a debate like this. Sorry you even mentioned that huh?
            >Now, what exactly has atheism given us?
            Atheism is not a religion, not a philosophy, not a worldview. It makes no promises and therefore owes us nothing. Unlike your religion which is built on false promises and as far as we know has never delivered nor will it ever deliver on any of them. Atheism may be defined as the view that “God exists” is a false statement. And that is what really bothers you believers. We’re not denying any God, we are denying YOUR claims about whatever God you believe in.
            You theists are afraid of being convinced by us which is why you’re on here arguing in the first place. You know your arguments don’t stand up to scrutiny but you are hoping you can convince yourself they do if you just repeat them over and over and over and over……

          • Jim

            Still waiting. What benefits has atheism given the world? Have you made it a better place? Have you built a hospital? An orphanage? How much does the atheist community donate to feed the impoverished or provide medical care to the third world or spend on disaster relief? Can you answer? I hear crickets.

        • Margaret Jaeger

          You have that exactly backwards…mythology was founded from God principles … then mankind who didn’t comprehend, had to find a way to make it fit their lives and world as was actually happening. They saw real Giants on the earth whomwere capable of greater things than human beings were….so they made them their gods. The real,God didn’t likemthese Giants trying to rule His earth so He created floods to get rid of them as they were a menace to human life and His true spirit. These are truths from the Bible that most people read over and discount as mythology alone and evidence of bones left on earth have been discovered for centuries but hidden by a weak and fearful people,,even some of Gods own people hid the truth. You, dear, have a lot of research and reading to do to get the real truth. It sounds like mythology because the church has also hidden that truth in their fears and inability to believe or process the truth…since those giant were mostly gone when the New Testament was composed.

          Why aren’t all writings included in the Bible..? Some weren’t as pertinent to the Bible as others. Some were left behind because the council of King James and others before him such as King George, didn’t think they were pertinent or they personally didn’t like them. That’s the way Kings behaved in those days. Remember that the NT is composed mostly of letters written to congregations and others were leader tomleader letters. Not a formal book written but a collection of letters on many subjects of how to live as a Christ follower. The OT contains much history of the beginning of the Hebrew life and religion. Worst of all, the Bible is not in chronological order that would make all the writings we do have more understandable.

          • Boris

            Your post is incoherent. Giants existed but people hid the bones huh? Please don’t tell other people they need to do research. Obviously you’ve never even picked up a science book in your adult life. Science is our only path to knowledge. Supposed revelations are nonsense. You don’t learn by sitting on your butt making up stupid stories or reading them.

          • Margaret Jaeger

            Of course it’s coherent, but because you don’t know the science behind it you declare it fables. Discoverers of giant bones have been genuine archeologists who turned over the bones of Giants to museums whompromply hid them in warehouse scenarios like the sci-fi movies depeict. But there are a few places remaining that do have the evidence and are trying to bring it forth now. Your accusations might well apply to yourself.

          • Boris

            Oh please. Our ancestors found fossilized bones of large animals like dinosaurs and assumed they were bones from giants who live in the past. So they made up stories about them just like they made up stories about them just like they made up stories about Jesus.

    • Margaret Jaeger

      The last part of your statement is so true and applicable today but the idea that the ministries you name are involved in charaltanism is not applicable to…all…of those Christian ministries. So the last part puts so many Christians in league with pagan idealism ….. Christianity is not superstition, when you follow God and see Him work, you’ll be more apt to comprehend …faith in a being and force larger than our world.

  • RobertandMichelle Sheffer

    He has done and is doing great harm to the cause of Christ. We are to be imitators of Christ and he is the opposite of Christ.

  • Patmos

    Regarding the two questions:

    The only people on Earth who will know whether this is good stewardship are the people involved with the ministry.

    As for reproach, people are going to hate without cause, so this doesn’t really change anything.

    I’ve said it here before and I’ll say it again, the so called prosperity gospel is just another label used to by ignorant people who try to discredit preachers who say it’s okay to prosper, which it is. Their message counters the false message preached by others that says you need to be poor and must give away everything you have in order to believe.

    It’s the love of money that is the root of all evil, not money itself. Money just makes it easier for societies to work, as it facilitates trade.

  • Jacob Miller

    >> My recommendation is that, in such cases, we follow Paul’s guidelines
    set forth in Romans 14 (in a different context): “The faith you have,
    keep to yourself before God” (Rom. 14:22). There’s no reason to announce
    it to the world.

    After a half-way decent article, this is how Dr. Brown ends it?

    That Duplantis should have been secretive about his airplane?

    I personally think the opposite — that non-profit organizations (not just churches) should have complete transparency in their finances.

    • Margaret Jaeger

      So the command to be ready at all times to speak the gospel and your reasons for believing it…when asked…still apply….

  • tz1

    Actually, unless we can show that he himself is not a true Christian leader — either by his doctrine or by his life 
    His wanting a $54 million toy paid for by followers – he apparently doesn’t have enough faith that a gold meteor will provide it – should cast doubt in any serious rational Christian’s mind. If he said God wanted him to have homosexual relations with young boys would you use the same weasel words?

    My second question is this: Does Jesse Duplantis’s announcement bring reproach to the gospel? Does it make it more difficult for other Christian leaders to raise funds for their work? Does it play into the image of the self-serving, manipulative televangelist?

    In the end, if God told Jesse to believe Him for a $54 million jet, and if the Lord gives him that jet in response to his faith, so be it.

    First, it does bring serious reproach to the gospel, amplified in the “we can’t know that God ‘didn’t’ say…”. Do you have one active brain cell? You are Elijah and saying “well maybe the prophets of Baal are just having a bad day…”. Go read what happened to the Prophets of Baal at Mt. Carmel when their sacrifice was not consumed, but the drenched sacrifice of Elijah was burned including all the water.

    If the LORD gives him the plane, that would be a miracle to confirm, but he doesn’t have to bother his followers. If a bunch of old people die because they can’t afford their medicine or food to send their last few dollars?

    Is there any more Justice?
    Is there any more holding people accountable?
    Is there any more calling Pharisees “broods of vipers” or “sons of the Devil”?
    And it was not just Jesus, the Apostles excoriated heretics.

    • Kevin Quillen

      Preach it! Thank you.

    • Margaret Jaeger

      You’ve also skewed the actual statements made. Your answers itself, is a presentation of shameful ideas of what box God should fit into.

  • Kevin Quillen

    Any mature Christian can see this is shameful. Should be called out for what it is, foolishness, greed, wasteful. We should not be afraid to call out these prosperity charlatans, and expose them to the light to protect the new Christians from them. Stand up Dr Brown and call a spade a spade.

    • Boris

      The people who founded your religion were actually much worse than these charlatans.

      • Margaret Jaeger

        How so…? Whomare younspeaking about..? Let’s hear it all…..

        • Boris

          For starters we know that the source material for the authors of Matthew and Luke was Mark’s Gospel and their own vivid imaginations and own religious agenda. Some of the letters attributed to Paul didn’t even show up until the 4th Century and reflect the Church’s 4th Century theology instead of 2nd Century theology. And we know Eusebius forged the so-called golden paragraphs in the works of Josephus that supposedly mention Jesus. And we know Christians had all kinds of artifacts that supposedly proved Jesus existed including his foreskin. For some crazy reason all we have left of artifacts is this shroud thingy which is a perfect example of Christian dishonesty and you know it. I could go on forever about all the hoaxes and lies Christians have pulled and are still trying to hose people with today, “No evolution! No climate change! Unbelievers kill! Abortion is murder!” You never stop lying.

          • Margaret Jaeger

            Where ever did you read that?

          • Boris

            In college.

          • Kathy

            Was not going to get involved, but must correct something you wrote. The “artifacts” you are referring to and others you didn’t mention are revered by the Orthodox and Roman Catholics. Protestants and Evangelicals pay no attention to any of that, at least that I know of. Many people lump us all together and think we are alike in every way. Definitely not the case.

          • Boris

            No you people come up with fake soft dinosaur tissue and other hoaxes like that. You people have the Ark park and the Discovery Institute, two monuments to intellectual dishonesty, ignorance and stupidity. At least the Catholics accept Evolution as does the entire Christian academic community. Every Protestant denomination held to the flat earth dogma well into the 19th Century, centuries after Galileo. So you Protestants have been even more anti-science and more anti-intellectual than even the Catholics.

          • Kathy

            “You people…” Guess you know me better than anyone else and even better than I know myself, so I need not say anything further. I’ll just sit back, relax and learn all about my beliefs from you.

          • Boris

            You Protestants. That’s what I mean. The Johnny come latelies who invented their own rules and then claimed the original Christians, the real Christians aren’t but you are. No dice. You Protestants are just some weird death cult, you’re not Christians.

          • Kathy

            I’m speechless, I had no idea! Thank you so much for enlightening me…I sure appreciate your insight. At least now I know. Ugh….

          • Boris

            I was messing with you a little because I didn’t like your comment about the Catholics. I graduated from a college that is associated with the Lutheran Church. All good people there.

          • Kathy

            I was at the CC for 30 years…think I should know a few things about it. All I was doing was correcting the “Christian” reference concerning the artifacts like the shroud you mentioned.

          • Boris

            The problem is that no one inside a religion or cult can understand it. You have to be outside of the influence of the cult to know that it is false.

          • Kathy

            Not my experience…I had many questions and doubts over many years before leaving, they were just confirmed as relevant by research afterwards. I’m curious… as an atheist, why would you defend any religion or cult, as you put it?

          • Boris

            I recognize that it’s not organized religion that is the problem in this country. It’s disorganized religion, all these churches opened by any loudmouth with a Bible. I studied at a Lutheran college and they prepare their clergy. Their ministers are trained in marriage counseling, how to do funerals, births how to minister to the sick and even the mentally ill how to interpret the Bible and so on. Their flock isn’t likely to be a bunch of delusional science deniers.

          • Kathy

            I noticed in a post of yours on another article you said you are Jewish. Is that just ethnic? You didn’t deny that I referred to you as an atheist…that is the impression I got.

            You seem to be praising the Lutherans, yet you wrote that Protestants “invented their own rules” and that they aren’t Christians. Kind of confusing.

          • Boris

            I went to a college associated with the Lutheran denomination. The original Church is the Catholic Church. It’s okay for you Protestants to claim to be Christians but it’s not okay when you claim the Catholics are not Christians. It’s not okay to keep calling every pope the anti-Christ. It’s not okay to claim the Bible has authority over the Church. The Catholics wrote the New Testament and they’re not about to give their own literature authority over themselves. And neither are you.

          • Kathy

            The writers of the NT were Jewish believers (except possibly Luke), they were not Catholics. There was no such religion at the time, at least officially until around the 300’s. Seems you are still claiming all non-Catholics think or believe exactly the same…not the case at all. May I suggest you look up got questions (dot) org and type in Catholic questions in the box. Scroll down to the Q & A’s…see what you think.

          • Boris

            The New Testament writers only spoke Greek. They were not Jewish, there were no Jewish believers. Belief in any kind of after life is contrary to all of teachings of any and all forms of Judaism. There’s no such thing as “Judeo-Christian.” You Christians wish there was but there is not.

          • Kathy

            Yeshua (Jesus’ real name) and his 12 disciples were all observant Jews as was the author of much of the NT, Paul (Saul, a die-hard Pharisee). Considering all of the research you say you’ve done, I’m sure you know all of this.

            There is no “replacement theology”….God did not break His promises and covenant with His chosen Jewish people. This is just one example of all Christians not believing the same. (Didn’t the Pharisees believe in the afterlife, but the Sadducees (spelling?) did not?)

          • Boris

            Like most Jewish people I do not believe Jesus Christ or any of the disciples ever existed. Outside of the Bible there is no contemporaneous evidence that any of them did, including Paul.

          • Kathy

            Are you still waiting for your promised Messiah, or is that not really something you care much about?

          • Boris

            No there is no Messiah there is no God. Grow up and pick up a science book.

          • Kathy

            Can’t figure you out–don’t really know where you stand. You say you are Jewish, that you don’t believe there is God, you vehemently defend the RCC and you attended a Lutheran college. One minute you seem very reasonable and level-headed, the next rude and vindictive, seemingly out of nowhere.

          • Boris

            My relatives are Jewish. None of us believe in God just like most of the rest of the Jews in the world. I don’t put labels on myself nor do I fit into any categories. I don’t believe in God for the same reason you don’t believe in invisible pink unicorns.

          • Kevin Quillen

            Boris; you should research soft tissue in dinosaur bones before you spout off. Plenty of cases. No hoaxes.

    • Margaret Jaeger

      What is shameful is Christians not accepting the full Word of God. You’re applying sins of man kind tonthose who are using great amounts of money to spread the Gospel.

  • Chip Crawford

    Jesse Duplantis is part of the Word of Faith, one of the most prolific groups of Christians in the world today. these leaders cannot complete their assignments without jets to keep their assignments. there are some pastoring multiple churches across the country, and the airlines could not facilitate that schedule at all. Besides that, the atmosphere and conditions current in today’s airline environment are not conducive to a man of God being in preparation for ministry when he arrives. Senator Grassley some decades ago could not imagine why a ministry would need a jet since his local church leadership had no demands on it around town, much less in other states and nations. He has since had his eyes opened to actual global ministry and discontinued the investigation. Given the narrow confines of passivity and leaving everything up to God being so prevalent in most of the church world, those who remain open to the call of the Great Commission as stated in God’s word and not recanted by him, are actually doing the majority of this outreach. Many are doing double and triple duty — perhaps your own share, Mr. and Ms. Clueless Christian. thank God for them. When you’ve won the numbers, touched as many lives and influenced cultures as these, we’ll hear from you.

  • Bojaws Dubois

    Biff begins, “As followers of Jesus, how should we react to the news that Jesse Duplantis claims that God told him to buy a $54 million jet for his ministry? Should we condemn him for taking the prosperity message to its logical extreme?”

    In writing this, he is totally oblivious to what this preacher is doing. He doesn’t want the jet for himself. He wants it as a tool for his ministry. He believes he can reach more people for Christ with the jet. Biff doesn’t get this because his primary concern is not preaching the gospel. He is more concerned about stopping two gay people from being gay than he is about the billions (!) of people who are on the cusp of spending eternity without God.

    Some wise person commented earlier that the money could be better spent supporting local pastors and evangelists to spread the gospel in their own communities. I agree with that. There is an organization in Virginia called Advancing Native Missions, and exactly that is their strategy. They believe that local pastors are more effective in reaching people in their own culture rather than outsiders. They also believe it’s more cost effective; a motorcycle costs less than a jet.

    But bottom line, if this guy is out preaching the gospel to the world, then let’s rejoice in that at least.

    • Chip Crawford

      Well, good for you BD -celebrating an all-out Gospel thrust over penny pinching do nothingness. Those with small vision and 9-5 ministries can only see gross waste and personal use when stronger tools are required for a larger task. And those tasks are enlarged by the 9-5ers who are content with thus. As you say, we’ve got a world at serious risk and the Father seeks those who will say, “Here I am, Send me” and face the persecution of the 9-5er Christians, sad to see.

  • Chip Crawford

    Jesse Duplantis is part of the Word of Faith, one of the most prolific
    groups of Christians in the world today. These leaders cannot complete
    their assignments without jets. There are some pastoring multiple
    churches across the country, and the airlines could not facilitate that
    schedule at all. Besides that, the atmosphere and conditions current in
    today’s airline environment are not conducive to a man of God being in
    preparation for ministry when he arrives. Senator Grassley some decades
    ago could not imagine why a ministry would need a jet since his local
    church leadership had no demands on it around town, much less in other
    states and nations. He has since had his eyes opened to actual global
    ministry and discontinued the investigation. Given the narrow confines
    of passivity and leaving everything up to God being so prevalent in most
    of the church world, those who remain open to the call of the Great
    Commission as stated in God’s word and not recanted by him, are actually
    doing the majority of this outreach. Many are doing double and triple
    duty — perhaps your own share, Mr. and Ms. Clueless Christian. thank
    God for them. When you’ve won the numbers, touched as many lives and
    influenced cultures as these, we’ll hear from you. The rank ignorance
    displayed by this article and the majority of the responses are why the
    church is so far behind in influence on our wicked and perverse
    generation. They – you – are too busy and too ignorantly condemning of
    brethren.

  • Chip Crawford

    Jesse Duplantis is part of the Word of Faith, one of the most prolific groups of Christians in the world today. These leaders cannot complete their assignments without jets. There are some pastoring multiple churches across the country, and the airlines could not facilitate that schedule at all. Besides that, the atmosphere and conditions current in today’s airline environment are not conducive to a man of God being in preparation for ministry when he arrives. Senator Grassley some decades ago could not imagine why a ministry would need a jet since his local church leadership had no demands on it around town, much less in other states and nations. He has since had his eyes opened to actual global ministry and discontinued the investigation. Keith Butler, a Michigan WoF pastor, who ran in a presidential Republican primary met many in GOP leadership at the time, and paid Sen. G a call. It was just not in his scope — an all too common condition.

    Given the narrow confines of passivity and leaving everything up to God being so prevalent in most of the church world, those who remain open to the call of the Great Commission as stated in God’s word and not recanted by him, are actually doing the majority of this outreach. Many are doing double and triple duty — perhaps your own share …. Thank God for them. When you’ve won the numbers, touched as many lives and influenced cultures as these, we’ll hear from you. The
    rank ignorance displayed by this article and the majority of the responses are why the church is so far behind in influence on our wicked and perverse generation. Uh, the writer even asks us here if we should condemn brethren … Guess who needs the wake-up call.

  • Paul commands to Timothy to avoid those who are lovers of money (2 Timothy 3:1-9). And yet the prosperity preachers are not only tolerated within evangelicalism, they are given a platform and sometimes even commended. The leaders of this movement are slaves of money, not Christ.
    “Not everyone who (B)says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will (C)enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who (D)does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 (E)On that day (F)many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not (G)prophesy in your name, and cast out demons (H)in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 (I)And then will I declare to them, ‘I (J)never knew you; (K)depart from me, (L)you workers of lawlessness.’

    • Margaret Jaeger

      That’s a very wrong assumption on your part. They don’t worship or love money and worship it…but there’s hardly a person alive who doesn’t like receiving money. You’re further trying to compare them to prophets who were as secular as modern day fortune tellers and predictors of future events….tho some of those are based on knowing history of the past and can compare events of nowadays being the same as some past events. You’ve also decided to become a judge even tho you quote scripture to try to prove your ideas. You’ve wrongly applied those quotes to Bible God believing people when they were coming from secular people who got results similar on their own. Nothing worse than people who know the Bible misapplying scriptures meant to be applied to secularists, to Christians.

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