How Did the Church Get Cut Off From Its Jewish Roots?

By Michael Brown Published on July 25, 2018

Did you know that Jesus was a rabbi, not a reverend? That Christ wasn’t His last name but the Greek way of saying “Messiah”?

Did you know that Jesus’ original, Hebrew name was Yeshua and that His mother’s name was Miriam, not Mary? That His first followers were Jewish men with names like Yochanan and Ya‘akov and Yehudah?

Did you know that the Letter of James was actually the Letter of Jacob and that the Letter of Jude was actually the Letter of Judah?

Did you know that the big controversy in the early Church was not whether Jews could follow Yeshua and remain Jewish but whether Gentiles had to become Jews to follow Him? After all He was the Jewish Messiah!

And did you know that Yeshua didn’t come into the world to establish a new religion called “Christianity” as much as He came to fulfill what was written by Moses and the Prophets?

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How, then, did we end up with two totally distinct religions, Judaism and Christianity? How did we end up with two totally distinct calendars, with Judaism celebrating Passover and Christianity celebrating Easter?

We answer these important questions in our latest Consider This video. You might be in for some surprises! Watch:

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  • Ray

    When we remember that the gospel came to the Gentiles who had little to do with the Jews, and it spread greatly among the Gentiles, it seems quite natural so see that two different religions might happen. Sometimes it’s not the importance of the tree so much as it is the life that sustains the tree.

    • Kevin Quillen

      Ray, actually it is about the tree sometimes. There is only one tree. One true religion, and it is not Judaism.

  • tz1

    Not the roots, but the branch.
    Because the Mosaic law was a branch on the top of the trunk that produced poison fruit that killed the very person who planted the tree.
    A “wild” branch was grafted on, but that doesn’t change that the decayed, poison, evil branch was severed.
    I’m not sure about the Noaic covenant, but the whole bunch of “law” GRAFTED onto the 10 commandments after the Jews rebelled against God (and not just once) was severed by Jesus death on the cross at the hands of those “Jewish Law abiding citizens”. It is all null and void, but an historical lesson.

    CHRISTIANS DON’T CELEBRATE PASSOVER AND IF THEY DO THEY ARE APOSTATE, HERETICS, OR PAGAN. We celebrate the resurrection. On Easter. We celebrate Christ’s birth, on Christmas. We do celebrate the Ascension and the descent of the Holy Spirit on the next Sunday that happened to be Pentecost.

    We don’t and can’t celebrate a “day of Atonement” that doesn’t have anything to do with the Cross – that was OUR day of atonement. And there is no way apart from Christ to be saved or redeemed.

    Jesus redeems persons. He can redeem any and every Jew, but they would then be a Christian and have to abandon the old, dead, way of pantomime which dimly forshadowed Christ’s sacrifice.

    If you wish to be a Jew and be cursed by the Jewish law, be a Jew.
    Or find Freedom in Christ, Jesus.

    • John A.

      Jesus observed Passover.

      • Kevin Quillen

        you really do not have a clue, do you? Jesus was Jewish and lived during the old covenant age. Old covenant ended in 70 AD. Why should we observe Passover now?

        • For the same reason the disciples celebrated Shavuot, another Feast of the Lord, after Messiah had ascended into heaven. And why Paul also is recorded as keeping the feasts and telling believers to do the same.

          • Kevin Quillen

            You do realize don’t you that you are talking about the time that the old covenant was still in effect? The feasts are not for Christians today. The biggest misunderstanding is this……Jesus, Paul, and all the Apostles, spoke and warned about the “end of the age”, not the end of the world. What age? The age in which the Jews were still married to God. The age when the Law was still in effect. That “age” ended in 70 AD, when the temple was destroyed and God punished the Jews for the killing of the prophets and for their disobedience. We are in the “age to come”(to the apostles and Jesus). The law, the feasts, the old covenant is dead and gone. The Jews have to come to Christ just like everyone else. They are not special.

          • Bryan

            “The age in which the Jews were still married to God.” Are you saying the Jews are divorced from God? I don’t mean to harp on one point from your post but it’s an interesting choice of words.
            As to the rest, I’m reminded of a quote I heard from Erwin McManus in his sermon on the Barbarian Christian. He said he was asked by someone once if he was claiming only Christians go to heaven. Erwin said no Christians need Jesus just like Jews and everyone else. The man said That’s good. So long as it’s fair.

          • Kevin Quillen

            Yes, I am saying that the Jews are divorced from God. Romans 9:6,7 and Acts 3:23

          • Bryan

            Doesn’t God hate divorce? Didn’t Jesus say that divorce was permitted by Moses because of the people’s hard hearts but that it wasn’t intended to be that way from the beginning? How does that reconcile with what you’re saying? I agree that the Jews need Jesus just like everyone one else. Even Dr. Brown says so in his video. But I don’t think God is done with the Jews yet either.

          • Kevin Quillen

            the verses I cited say otherwise. God is done with the Jews. Eph 2:14-16

          • Bryan

            I think I may not have been clear. I’m not saying the Jews are special in that they don’t have to believe in Jesus to be saved because of their heritage. I just don’t think God is abandoning the Jews. I think it’s Gods plan to allow their hearts to soften en mass so to speak one day near the end of the earth and the scales to fall from their eyes so that the see Jesus as Messiah.
            The passages you provided I read as allowing the Gentile into the promise Paul talks about in Romans 9:8 not cutting off or being done with the Jew.

          • Kevin Quillen

            you might want to read Romans 9:6&7 and Acts 3:23 again.

          • At what point did the Old Covenant — and all of God’s laws — stop taking effect? Before the crucifixion? No, we have Jesus celebrating Passover. After the resurrection? No, we have the disciples celebrating Shavuot. After Paul goes out into the nations? No, we have Paul taking a Nazirite vow in the Temple.

            If the laws of God ceased at some point, it was lost on Jesus, the disciples, and Paul.

          • Kevin Quillen

            Old covenant ended in 70 AD with the destruction of the temple. Look at all the urgency verses in the new testament. They are all about the coming judgment on the Jews. Matt 23:34-36.
            1 John 2:18, “it is the last HOUR”. Jesus in Matt 24 was not speaking of the end of the world but of the end of the AGE. What age? The Jewish age in which the Jews were in a special relationship with God and the law was in effect. Jesus said in Matt 5:17, and 18, till heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or tittle would pass from the law until ALL be fulfilled. Heaven and earth passed away in 70 AD. Heaven and earth was the old covenant and the old covenant people. The New Heavens and new earth is the new covenant and the new covenant people. See 2 Pet 3:10-13. Look up what the “elements” are that melt with fervent heat. Hint….it is not dirt and rocks etc.. There are plenty of references in the old testament about heaven and earth being people. Research it. Also, consider Matt 26:64 and the reference to coming on the clouds when Jesus spoke before the Sanhedrin. Plenty of old testament references to God riding on clouds and coming in judgment on clouds. Look them up. Notice Caiaphas reaction to Jesus mentioning coming on clouds, he knew what Jesus meant.

          • The Temple — which Jesus called “My Father’s House” — was destroyed before by the Babylonians in the 6th century BC.

            The destruction of the first Temple didn’t end the covenant. Why would the destruction of the second Temple end it?

          • Kevin Quillen

            because the Messiah had not come yet when the temple was destroyed the first time.

        • John A.

          No, I think you don’t have a clue. It seems you clearly have a bone to pick with Jews. Be very careful of harboring that attitude.

          • Kevin Quillen

            I have no issue with the Jews at all. I am simply independent enough to have studied for years and drawn conclusions contrary to most of today’s pastors, who, I believe follow tradition or seminary teaching rather than knowing for themselves. I am confident of my standing with my Heavenly Father through Christ and will speak truth as I see it is needed. The fact is that misinformation about the Jewish nation is used by many for fund raising and personal position. The foolishness of the importance of the rebirth of Israel in 1948 is a prime example. This has already been proven to be false simply by the time that has passed. You will notice that this is talked about less and less today. The error is obvious. The emphasis has been transferred to 1967 and the Jews gaining control of all of Jerusalem. This too will pass.

      • tz1

        He ascended – So Post ressurection, do you have evidence after about Acts the church celebrated Passover?

  • Kathy

    Dr. Brown, So grateful for this confirmation of what I have been telling others ever since attending a Messianic Jewish synagogue and being provided with an historic timeline on their history. Of course, there is much more detailed information than you had time to give, but just enough for people to understand this important part of history they may not be aware of. You just don’t hear this discussed in Gentile circles.

  • The separation between the two came in three overlapping stages:

    STAGE 1) Jewish rejection
    Jewish leaders continued to reject Messiah after His resurrection and they expelled Jewish believers from synagogues and ridiculed them. When the Jewish followers of Messiah fled Jerusaelm in 70AD as Messiah had instructed in Matthew 24, non-believing Jews labeled them as traitors. When the Jewish followers of Jesus rejected Simon Bar Kochba (falsely proclaimed to be the messiah by Rabbi Akiva), non-believing Jews further persecuted them and declared them karat (cut off) from Israel.

    STAGE 2) Roman rejection
    Rome persecuted Jews as a result of their various rebellions in the 1st and 2nd centuries. Believers (both Jews and Gentiles) appeared Jewish to Roman eyes (celebrating the Sabbath, Passover, eating kosher, etc) and so even believing GENTILES were persecuted by Roman authorities. Tiberius prohibited the practice of Judaism in Rome and Claudius expelled all Jews from the city. Later, Jews were required to pay the Jewish tax (Fiscus Judaicus).

    Consider what Gentile believers were experiencing: the Jews hated them because they were “traitors” and the Romans hated them because they appeared to be Jewish traitors against Rome.

    STAGE 3) Roman syncretism
    Centuries later, Constantine made Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire but left in place all of the polytheistic pagan rituals they had adopted during their period of conquering and expansion.

    • Ken Abbott

      Minor correction on that last point. Constantine did not make Christianity the official religion of the empire. That happened several decades later under Theodosius. What Constantine did do was make Christianity licit–that is, no longer illegal and no longer subject to official persecution.

      • Agreed… I wrote in haste and appreciate the correction! 🙂

  • tz1

    If one can be a “Good Jew” and observe ever Jewish tradition which would Anno Domini be considered pagan one could be considered a good Nazi and follow the Wotan rituals but still be considered a good Christian or follow Sharia law and still be a Christian.

    Christ in no small number of places said you had to abandon EVERYTHING to follow him. Judiasm is on the list along with wealth, relatives, obligations, etc.

    You wish to look back from the plow.

    I know you really want there to be a syncretistic synthesis that is Judeao-Christian that dilutes and negates both not unlike other “spiritualities” that accept Christ as “just another way among others”. But Christ himself says you cannot serve two masters.

    Be Jewish. OR be Christian. Choose this day whom you will serve.

    • Kathy

      Please refrain from referring to yourself as a Christian considering your obvious hatred of God’s own chosen people. How embarrassing!

      • tz1

        I’m one of God’s “elect”. Luther was far more critical of the Jews than I’ve ever considered being (but maybe it is worth a reread).
        Jesus, the God-Man also chose Judas Iscariot, one of the “chosen”, is he a saint?
        I don’t hate Jews, but God’s elect are those saved through Jesus Christ – there is no other name, no other truth, no other way. I want every Jew to find Christ, or as many as God makes possible.

        You say I hate them but you want all of them to be damned and burn in hell for all eternity because you want them to remain ignorant or even contemptuous of their Messiah, Jesus.

        • Kathy

          How is it you know you are God’s elect as you say? Luther was angry with the Jews at the end of his life, but my impression from your posts is that you are as well.

          I don’t believe as you say in your last paragraph…I support Messianic Jewish organizations who witness to Jewish people. So, no, I don’t want them to “remain ignorant” and so on. Quite the opposite.

          • tz1

            How did Calvin explain election?

          • Kathy

            You and I may be informed as to what election means, but how do you know as tz1 that you are one of God’s elect? I’m asking because many people have misconceptions about that, just as they have concerning, for example, the means of their salvation.

          • tz1

            As a Catholic, I can’t know with metaphysial certanty so go to confession, an participate in the Eucharaist (John 6) and have hope.

            How as an unforgiving (see the Lord’s prayer) harridan harpy do you assert personal salvation?

          • Kathy

            Guess I really hit a nerve asking those questions. Seems when people resort to vicious name-calling, it is a cover for not having the answers. How sad that you have no real assurance, which I have found is not at all unusual with people in the RCC.

            Christ’s sacrifice is totally sufficient. Look to and fully trust in Him, there is no work you can or need to do to help yourself. Why would God have His beloved Son endure horrendous suffering for us? He could have just required that we perform and do meritorious works for Him instead. How much confession, etc. is enough anyway? Doesn’t our trying to help ourselves negate the work of Christ on the cross?

            Telling you that you hate the Jews was overreacting, and I apologize…should have said you seemed very angry with them. I tend to be very defensive of the Jewish people, especially the Messianics.

          • tz1

            You confuse real assurance with metaphysical certainty – which one are you asking about? Calvin said we were predestined and there was technically no way to tell with certanty election. Being “nice” in various ways was supposed to demonstrate it.
            Telling me I hate Jews is simply inaccurate. When I see “Christians” endorsing or supporting them in their unbelief and sinful behavior (Whatever it calls itself Jenner got a hero of Israel award, you can search Rabbi Shumley Boteach as he wrote the story on Breitbart and noted Tel Aviv was the most LGBTQ friendly city in the world, but there is no outrage, objection, etc. Nor to their defacto abortion on demand, why do I hate them for pointing out their flashing neon light sins?).
            Also my salvation is ENTIRELY the work of Christ, but that doesn’t mean (post Baptism) that God will not insist on justice when I sin. Or are you “trust in Jesus, but do violence, steal, and participate in orgies and it is all covered by the blood of Jesus”? I only try to do things to earn merit because I do things that earn demerit even if I really don’t want to, and God is just.
            Why would God condemn me for trying to save Jews far more than the Jews that are condemned for both unbelef and actual sinful acts?

          • Kathy

            I was all set to have a serious discussion with you until I read your post on another article using the trashy name you called me in response to asking you a question. Realized you never apologized as I had done with you, even though you cited forgiveness in the Lord’s Prayer. Interesting as well that I “participate in orgies” because I wrote that Christ’s sacrifice was completely sufficient. Don’t have much of an incentive to reply anymore.

          • tz1

            I did not write that YOU “participate in orgies”, only that your theological view meant it didn’t matter if you did or not as it would not affect your salvation as it was Christ on the Cross, and faith in that, and no ACT mattered, willed or fall, only belief.

            Feel free to clarify.

          • Kathy

            Considering the ugly name-calling, which there is still no apology for, can you blame me for thinking that? I have agreed with some of your comments in the past, but after reading others, especially some of your latest ones on this and other articles, you are so off-base that I can’t even begin to comment without having to write a book.

            I understand, as a Catholic, you have many misconceptions about orthodox Bible believing Christians. I was in the RCC for many years with my Catholic (former Catholic now) husband, so I am VERY familiar with it. If you are anything like another Catholic posting on this site, it won’t make a bit of difference what I, or for that matter, any other strict Bible believer would say…we certainly didn’t get through to him. I know exactly why, too.

          • tz1

            It matters very much to me if there is new evidence, logic, or reason. That should transcend any perceived insult. Yet it is still apparently all about you and your feelings and that I am a bad person though you aren’t stating reasons, just using the same insult technique you accuse me of.

          • Kathy

            I don’t mind being called out or corrected if need be, but a totally irrelevant, out of the blue character insult is uncalled for. I realized my original comment was overblown and apologized for it.

          • Is it because he cares more for truth than his ego?

            Once more, a person who ran from the Church to gnosticism to get away from the shame of sin is not “VERY familiar” with the Church.

          • So you claim that Christ’s sacrifice is completely sufficient, but yet also feel the Old Covenant is still valid and not fulfilled?

            So you must mean that you think the Cross makes all of your sin moot, and therefore that God became your slave to free you from your own accountability. No.

            All tz1 said was that you think you are freed of all accountability over your sin; you do think that. The example was given that you would think you were justified if you killed, stole, or participated in orgies; and you would feel you were justified as you feel your deified-ego would forgive you.

            That you would fixate on the orgy part tells me that you left the Church you were never really a part of because of shame over sexual sin.

          • One can know by the sacraments and being a part of God’s (actual) Church.

    • Boris

      Atheist. I will serve no one.

      • Kevin Quillen

        there is no such thing as an atheist. you know down deep inside God exists. you just refuse to acknowledge it. you will meet Him someday.

        • Boris

          We don’t reject God. We reject your lies about God.

          • Kevin Quillen

            “We don’t reject God”
            See you are not an atheist.

          • Boris

            I don’t reject werewolves or leprechauns or invisible pink unicorns either. Like God I simply don’t believe they exist based on the lack of evidence required for belief in such bogeys.

          • Kathy

            Boris, heard this today and wanted to share it…I actually thought of you immediately. “When the Spirit of God touches you heart, you will realize what agony it would be to be apart from Him.” I can vouch for this from personal experience only 6 years ago. I was rather indifferent to God beforehand even though I claimed the name of “Christian” all my life.

          • Boris

            People of all religions make the exact same claim. When you figure out why you reject their claims maybe you’ll understand why we reject yours.

          • Kathy

            Would not expect you to understand or relate to that quote…I would not have myself most of my life. BTW, I roll my eyes and sometimes get very disturbed at some of the statements by Christians posting on this website. We don’t all think exactly alike.

          • Boris

            The fundies are all alike. The others will leave the religion eventually.

          • Kathy

            Yes, good point. The “fundies”, as you call them, have most likely had the Spirit of God touch their hearts, They have a zeal that the nominal “Christians”, as I once was, do not. Therefore, they are led astray and fall away easily because they have no foundation. Most, like I was, have no grounding in the truth of God’s Word and are just going through the motions.

          • Boris

            Anybody who takes an unbiased look at their religion will always reject it. Every time, without fail.

          • Kathy

            Whatever you say, Boris…after all, you are the expert on my beliefs. I just have no clue, I guess. Thanks for enlightening me.

      • Stephen D

        There is no such thing as serving no-one. You will serve somebody, even if it is only yourself.

        • Boris

          I’ll serve myself and you’ll serve an imaginary God. LOL

    • >> Be Jewish. OR be Christian.

      Paul said in Acts 23, after his Damascus road experience, “Brothers, I am a Pharisee!”

      Not “I was a Pharisee”, but, “I am a Pharisee.”

      If you can’t be Jewish and Christian, it was lost on the Paul and the early believers.

      • Ray

        Didn’t Paul become as a Jew unto the Jews? If so, what was he, before he became as a Jew? Something other than a Jew, I suppose. (see I Cor 9:20)

        • Before he became a Jew? He was still a Jew. Paul’s language about being as a Jew to Jews, and as a non-Jew to non-Jews has to do with preaching to people using language they can understand, not putting on a façade to trick people into believing.

          Otherwise, one must believe Paul was lying when he was saying, “Brothers, I am a Pharisee.”

          • Ray

            Judah, I say that before Paul became as a Jew, to the Jews he was still a Jew, yet what was he when he was not as a Jew, but became as one? That is a bit of a riddle isn’t it? Can you solve it? It wasn’t just his preaching, for he preached the same gospel to Jew and Gentile, though perhaps in slightly different ways,but mostly the same, yet it was something more than that. Even for a Jew, in Christ, there is a sense in which there is no Jew or Gentile. Paul made that clear enough, not just in speech but in deeds also, even though at times he lived like a Jew under the law in order to gain the Jews, living under the law in a slightly different way than he lived under the law of God, in Christ, before the Gentiles. For he was free from the law. Yet, he had permission to live as a Jew under the law in order to gain the Jews, and there was no deceit in that.

          • >> “What was he when he was not a Jew”

            Paul was never in this state. He was born a Jew, he lived as a Jew, he died as a Jew following the Jewish Messiah.

            We know this because Paul himself twice in the New Testament identifies as a Pharisee.

            >> “he lived like a Jew under the law in order to gain the Jews, living under the law in a slightly different way than he lived under the law of God”

            You are making making God’s law given at Sinai stand in opposition to a nebulous, ill-defined “law of God.” God’s Law, the first 5 books of the Bible, is the law of God.

  • Trilemma

    Jesus started out as a human rabbi. Gradually, his followers deified him until they worshiped him as God, thus creating a new religion.

    The Law of Moses held people captive. Jesus came to set the captives free.

    • Tim Pan

      No Jesus started as God in heaven

    • I can see that my calling your faith as jeffersonian ended up being unintentionally prophetic.

      If you must know: Christ is God. Christ fulfilled the Old Covenant and replaced it with the New & Eternal Covenant.

      • Trilemma

        The Bible teaches that Jesus is deity. It does not teach that he is the God. Jesus never said that he was God.

        • Are you trying to play bingo with heresies?

        • Kevin Quillen

          Matt 26:64 Jesus did say He was God.

          • Trilemma

            How did Jesus say he was God in that verse?

          • Kevin Quillen

            you may not understand it but Caiaphas did. Why do you think he said it was blasphemy?

          • Trilemma

            In Matt 26:64, I see Jesus possibly saying he is deity or a god, but certainly not The God. The Jews considered it blasphemy to claim to be a god or equal to The God.

          • Kevin Quillen

            look up “coming on the clouds” in the old testament. always refers to “The God” coming in judgment. It is clear to all who “want” to see.

          • Trilemma

            I came up with only one verse, Daniel 7:13 – “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son
            of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of
            Days and was led into his presence.” NIV

            This verse clearly indicates that Jesus, one like a son of man, is a completely separate entity from God, the Ancient of Days.

          • Kevin Quillen

            Isaiah 19:1
            Nahum 1:3
            Ezekiel 30:3,18 and 19
            Zephaniah 1:14 and 15
            Joel 2:1 and 2
            Caiaphas knew that Jesus was saying that He(Jesus) was coming to judge and pour out wrath on the Jews. He was in fact saying that He is God. That is why it was blasphemy to Caiaphas.

          • Trilemma

            Isaiah 19:1 NIV: A prophecy against Egypt: See, the LORD rides on a swift cloud and is coming to Egypt. The idols of Egypt tremble before him, and the hearts of the Egyptians melt with fear.

            I agree clouds are associated with judgment, but Isaiah is the only one you listed that talks about coming on the clouds. I agree that Isaiah is talking about God riding on a swift cloud. But Jesus said the Son of Man would be seated next to power which I take to mean seated next go God. Jesus can’t be God if he’s seated next to God. Also, the cloud he was talking about may have been the cloud of witnesses talked about in Hebrews 12:1. I think Jesus was saying he would come in judgment by the authority given him by God.

  • dtang

    Mr. Brown. Love your article. Don’t understand why so many Christians get swayed by Satan to believe that Jesus has nothing to do with God’s chosen people and the Old Testament with all the feativals that God called His people to follow.

    I am a true believer of Jesus. I wish I celebrate the festivals such as Passover. God gave Abraham the blessings and God did not make a mistake and have to cancel that after Jesus came. God will punish His chosen people as He did throughout the OT but they will always be His people. And yes they would realize that Jesus is the true messiah and the Jews will be one key focus of God in the end time.

    Jesus came to fulfill everything in the OT and never told us to discard the OT.

    It is sad to see that many Christians abandon God’s instructions and teachings in OT. Perhaps you could explain better than I do.

    • James Blazsik

      Read the book of Galatians. Also, check out Col. 2:15,16. The Old Testament is fulfilled in Christ. We benefit tremendously from the Old Testament – but in the view of Christ.

      • Boris

        Oh yeah you Christians are arrogant enough to actually believe you know what the Old Testament is all about and the people who wrote it did not and the Jews living today do not. That is arrogance gone into orbit. The NT writers ripped prophecies away form their original context and meaning and reinterpreted them to pound their mythical sun god into the role of a coming messiah. The whole New Testament is most obvious hoax ever perpetrated. This is why unless someone is frightened by other people into believing it they don’t and never will.

        • James Blazsik

          You are a troll. You don’t know what you are talking about. You are sounding ridiculous – you are out of your league.

          • Boris

            I am a Jew and I think I know a little more about that than you ever will.

  • Kevin Quillen

    The new covenant ended the old. The Jews and Gentiles became ONE. Eph 2:14-16.
    Being Jewish today is no different than being Italian or Mexican. Old covenant has no value today EXCEPT to teach us about the nature of God, show us the prophecies that were fulfilled in Christ, to point to Christ as our Savior. And we wonder why people mock us and regard Christianity lightly. Christians seem to the most gullible bunch. Will believe anything some “Bible teacher” says without doing the personal study. The nation of Israel means nothing today, Biblically speaking. Just another man made country. Nice country, nice people, but Biblically significant, no.

    • Dena

      What Bible are you reading? Jesus is Jewish and lived in Israel. He wasn’t European. He observed the Jewish holidays.

      Israel has Bibical significance. Jesus and his disciples talked about Israel and the Jews. What about prophecy regarding Israel in both the New and Old Testament and Revelation?

      • James Blazsik

        Revelation has been largely fulfilled. The calling of the nation of Israel is to come to Christ. When Christ came everything became new. The Old Covenant is fulfilled in Christ. Everything in the Old Testament has been fulfilled in Christ and the Church.

        • Kevin Quillen

          I would add that everything in Rev has been fulfilled.

          • James Blazsik

            I would agree, but what do you make of Rev. 20:7-10? It occurs after the 1000 years. It described the beloved city – which would be the church.

          • Kevin Quillen

            it is not a literal 1000 years. It is the time between Christ’s resurrection and the destruction of the temple in 70 AD. Yes, the new Jerusalem is the church, i. e. all believers. Rev 20:7-10 describes the Jewish war with Roman empire. This was also the great tribulation. The result of which is that the old covenant ended and Jews were punished for the killing of the prophets. Matt 23: 34-36.

      • Kevin Quillen

        Of course Jesus observed the Jewish holidays. He lived during the Old Covenant age. We do not.
        All prophecies have been fulfilled.

        • Kay Duncan

          No, they have not.

  • Stephen D

    See Acts 15: 24-29 and Galatians 4:9-11. While it is true that the first Christians were Jews, it is also true that they were not supposed to be living as Jews after joining the body of Christ. In my view it would be inconsistent for a Jew to participate in the Lord’s Supper AND celebrate the Jewish Passover, for example. The death of Christ rendered the Passover celebration irrelevant to God’s purposes. The Jewish religious observances are dead letter to the Christian.

    • Bryan

      The Lord’s Supper was first performed at the Passover meal.
      Ok, What was the purpose of the Passover? God wanted the Israelites to mark themselves as separate so that the Angel of Death would pass over their houses during the plague of the first born. Then God said through Moses, you’re going to do this every year to remind yourselves of God’s faithfulness and his delivering you from the Egyptians. So the yearly celebration of the Passover is the reminder of God’s faithfulness. If you’re not a Jew by birth but are rather grafted in to life as Paul said to the Gentile believers, you don’t have the cultural history that the Jewish believers have but you still read the Scriptures and understand how God was faithful to his people. It’s not a requirement any longer (not that it was a saving requirement in the first place) but the celebration of the Passover and the Lord’s Supper are not mutually exclusive.
      There is simply Christ & Christ crucified and raised from the dead. Anything else is human addition. As Christ said the fulfillment of the law and the prophets is summed up in two commands: Love God & love people. This tells me that all of the sacrifices, traditions, etc., past, present, and future, are meaningless if they aren’t done with those two commands in mind.
      However, human additions can be a mechanism to remind us or point us back to God when we, in our short terms, are distracted. God instituted some mechanisms for the Jews relevant to their cultural and historical background. Christians instituted the celebration of Christmas as a mechanism relevant to their cultural and historic background. The existence of the mechanism isn’t the problem. When the mechanism becomes the object of worship, not the God who inspired the mechanism, that’s when things get bad.
      So the Jewish believer can practice many of his traditions in light of Christ as fulfillment of their intended purpose and do no harm to himself or his witness.

      • Stephen D

        How then do you respond to the (Jewish) apostle Paul’s take on this? What about Acts 15:24-29 and Galatians 4:9-11? My understanding of these passages is that they teach that, in the light of Christ, Jews are not to continue with these practices.
        I would think of the Temple in this connection. The Temple is finished, biblically-speaking. Christ has replaced the Temple – on His own express statement (John 2:19). For a community of Christian Jews to build a Temple and use it for worship as in OT times would be a form of heresy it seems to me.

        • Bryan

          I’d say that in light of those passages, gentiles were not to take on the burden of the jewish practices. In particular not to make them out to be part of their salvation or the working out of their salvation. 1 Corinthians 10 talks about food sacrificed to idols as well. Participating in the sacrifice is condemned but not eating the food someone had bought from the market. Unless another believer was present who could stumble because of your witness. (1 Corinthians 10:23-24)
          I guess I’m saying you can recognize specific days or perform certain actions as having significance while recognizing that they have no saving value in and of themselves. Jews have certain holy days, Christian’s have certain holy days. The point isn’t the day, it’s the fact that you are consecrating it to God. For example, Jews and Seventh-Day Adventist celebrate their Sabbath on Saturday, most Christians on Sunday. However many pastors celebrate on Monday or Friday. Why? Because they work hard on Sunday and they need a day of rest as well. The point isn’t the mechanism that gets you before God. It’s getting before God.

    • Kay Duncan

      Of course, they continued to live as Jews as did Paul. Jesus said I did not come to destroy the Torah. They also continued to celebrate Passover after Jesus’ death. The early church met daily in the Temple at the hour of prayers and sacrifices … they met in Solomon’s porch facing the Mt. Olives because they wanted to welcome their returning Messiah.

  • Stephen D

    Incidentally, a church that has scriptures incorporating the Old Testament can hardly be said to have been “cut off from its Jewish roots” – surely? But once a Jewish person understands that Isaiah 53 speaks of the Messiah and has been fulfilled in Jesus, that person can hardly then continue to practice the historic faith of Judaism without implicitly denying that Jesus is the Messiah.

  • dtang

    We need to be mindful of God’s words on israel in Romans 11. Read the whole chapter but here are a couple of key verses.
    “do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you.”
    ‭‭Romans‬ ‭11:18‬ ‭NIV‬‬
    “As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable.”
    ‭‭Romans‬ ‭11:28-29‬ ‭NIV‬‬

  • James Blazsik

    Mr. Brown – Acts 15 confirms the end of the Mosiac Covenant, The letter to the Galatians confirm there is neither Jew or Greek in the Body of Christ. The Body of Christ is the fulfillment of Messianic Judaism.
    The reason Easter is a differing day then the Jewish passover is that Easter will always be celebrated on Sunday, the day of the resurrection. The Jewish passover has been fulfilled. It was just a shadow. Col. 2:16.
    The Jewish Passover is welcome to change to Sunday. Romans 9-11 states that there is still a calling for the Jews, but it is a calling to the Body of Christ.
    When Christians pray for the peace of Jerusalem. we pray for the Heavenly Jerusalem, the Church. The earthly Jerusalem represents Hagar – which is slavery. Gal. 4:25.
    That’s not saying we shouldn’t pray for Israel to come to Christ. We should. But we should call them to the Body of Christ. I believe we should love the Jews and support the the state of Israel. But most of all that we should support our brothers and sisters living there. We should also care for the Palestinians. Christ loves them too.
    I think a deeper logic with your argument is that you dont want to acknowledge the Catholic Church, which is the fulfillment of Messianic Judaism.
    Prophecy is another reason. But a flawed view of prophecy. Christ is coming at the end of history. There is no 1,000 year earthly reign from an earthly Jerusalem – Christ already reigns forever on His heavenly throne. The Church is the fulfillment of the Kingdom of God on earth.

    • Kathy

      Perhaps you can find a Messianic Jewish synagogue in your area and consider joining the many former Roman Catholics who found a welcoming home there. You may actually be surprised at what you might learn. It certainly wouldn’t hurt to see what they are all about.

  • Walter Schroedter

    I agree on the whole with the sentiments expressed in this article/video. Nevertheless, It seems to me that this video encourages a “separate kind of Jewish Christianity”. I don’t think that Paul would have opted for this. Paul was still living during the time of the existence of the temple and the temple services. Nevertheless he would have surely been supportive of the line of thinking found in the book of Hebrews, where the writer talks about the difference between the “shadow” and the “reality” when comparing the Old Covenant with the New Covenant. While I agree that the root supports the tree, the root is not the “old system” but the newness that came with Christ – the newness that the Jewish people for the most part have rejected. Certainly Jewish believers in Yeshua will hold dear the feasts and so on, while giving them their full meaning under the new covenant. And Gentile believers should embrace the insights Jewish believers can give on the meaning of these things. But if Jews and Gentiles are “one in Christ”, this should also translate into unity in fellowship etc. There is only one body of Christ. Just as a Jewish believer would have to shed the many traditions of the Talmud, so there is also a necessary refinement that needs to take place with respect to every aspect of the old temple services, the law, the feasts, as well as the Sabbath. Everything needs to be looked at from the vantage point of fulfillment. And Gentile Christians should reject notions of superiority over the Jewish people or defensiveness concerning our common Jewish heritage. It this is not happening it is only because Jewish and/or Gentile Christians do not understand how much the “dividing wall” has been torn down, in my opinion. The ideal is one church in which Jewish and Gentile Christians worship TOGETHER. In my opinion it is sad where this is not embraced as the reality we should all be striving for.

  • Ray

    And God is Jehovah. Ask any JW.

  • James Blazsik

    Mr. Brown – another thing. The Passover has been fulfilled in Christ. The Jewish Passover that is celebrated now is not the Passover that Moses celebrated.
    In other words, the only Passover that exists to the Christian is the Last Supper where Christ gave us the Eucharist. We eat the actual Passover Lamb – the Body and Blood of Christ. This is celebrated by the Catholic and Orthodox Churches in the Heavenly Liturgy.
    Why would you want anything else?

    • Kathy

      You are correct, the Passover observed by Messianics is the same Passover as Moses celebrated, which traditional Jews would not recognize. The MJ’s explain how all of the elements and rituals used point to their Messiah Yeshua, which is the reason the Passover celebration was commanded by God in the first place, as you know. I don’t see any reason for it to be abandoned by them now. They actually also celebrate Communion, at least at the synagogue I attended.

      Dr. Brown knows exactly what he is doing and already belongs to the Body of Christ who are all born again believers, not a particular sect or denomination. It is futile to try to convince him otherwise, as it would be to anyone who knows this.

      • If he knows what he is doing, does he not realize that performing the old rituals denigrates the sacrifice of the Cross and Ressurrection? Clearly novelty is the prime concern here.

  • Walter Schroedter

    I agree on the whole with the sentiments expressed in this article/video. Nevertheless, It seems to me that this video encourages a “separate kind of Jewish Christianity”. I don’t think that Paul would have opted for this. Paul was still living during the time of the existence of the temple and the temple services. Nevertheless he would have surely been supportive of the line of thinking found in the book of Hebrews, where the writer talks about the difference between the “shadow” and the “reality” when comparing the Old Covenant with the New Covenant. While I agree that the root supports the tree, the root is not the “old system” but the newness that came with Christ – the newness that the Jewish people for the most part have rejected. Certainly Jewish believers in Yeshua will hold dear the feasts and so on, while giving them their full meaning under the new covenant. And Gentile believers should embrace the insights Jewish believers can give on the meaning of these things. But if Jews and Gentiles are “one in Christ”, this should also translate into unity in fellowship etc. There is only one body of Christ. Just as a Jewish believer would have to shed the many traditions of the Talmud, so there is also a necessary refinement that needs to take place with respect to every aspect of the old temple services, the law, the feasts, as well as the Sabbath. Everything needs to be looked at from the vantage point of fulfillment. And Gentile Christians should reject notions of superiority over the Jewish people or defensiveness concerning our common Jewish heritage. It this is not happening it is only because Jewish and/or Gentile Christians do not understand how much the “dividing wall” has been torn down, in my opinion. The ideal is one church in which Jewish and Gentile Christians worship TOGETHER. In my opinion it is sad where this is not embraced as the reality we should all be striving for.

  • Ray

    Just looking at all the comments, it seems to me that one answer comes in clear enough…Legalism. That might explain a lot of the how or why, if indeed it (the Church) has.

  • Ray

    So much of the early Church had no Jewish roots. Discern what I say. Yes, they learned from the OT scriptures, but they did not live as did the Jews in so many ways, and that was fine with God, as far as I can tell. As long as they were living right with him, it didn’t matter.

  • Boris

    It didn’t get cut off. It never had any. Constantine added the OT to the canon in the hopes of bringing those pesky Jews on board to his new world religion.

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