Christian Conservatives, Be Assured That President Hillary Clinton Will Declare War on You

By Michael Brown Published on October 15, 2016

Make no mistake about it. If you are a conservative Christian and Hillary Clinton becomes our next president, she will declare war on certain aspects of your faith. Your religious liberties will be targeted, and your biblical beliefs will be branded disturbing, if not downright dangerous.

Do not be deceived.

She has made herself perfectly clear on this in the recent past, and we deny this is to our own peril.

Writing for the left-leaning Washington Post, Marc Thiessen, former chief speechwriter for George W. Bush, declared that “Hillary Clinton is a threat to religious liberty.” He began his October 13 column with these two sobering paragraphs:

In a speech not long before she launched her 2016 presidential campaign, Hillary Clinton made a stunning declaration of war on religious Americans. Speaking to the 2015 Women in the World Summit, Clinton declared that ‘deep-seated cultural codes, religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed.’

Religious beliefs have to be changed? This is perhaps the most radical statement against religious liberty ever uttered by someone seeking the presidency. It is also deeply revealing. Clinton believes that, as president, it is her job not to respect the views of religious conservatives but to force them to change their beliefs and bend to her radical agenda favoring taxpayer-funded abortion on demand.”

Thiessen is not overstating the case, and in light of one recent court case and one pending bill, both in California  and both with potential to go to the Supreme Court, the real dangers of a Hillary Clinton presidency can hardly be exaggerated.

Last week, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that pro-life pregnancy centers are required to promote abortion, meaning, that if a pregnant woman comes to them not knowing what to do about her pregnancy, along with counseling her about adoption or keeping her own baby, they must also refer her to a local abortion clinic.
Yes, under the California Reproductive Freedom, Accountability, Comprehensive Care, and Transparency Act, this is the law; the Ninth Circuit upheld it.

What an absolute outrage, and what an infringement on religious liberties, since these pro-life centers, which are invariably run by conservative Christians, are being forced to violate their sacredly held beliefs.

Hillary Clinton supports legislation like this, and she would absolutely appoint Supreme Court justices who would support this as well. She has made this abundantly, unequivocally clear for many years, without wavering, and she is the most favored Planned Parenthood candidate in history.

As I wrote previously, if you vote for Hillary Clinton, you will have the blood of the unborn on your hands.

And note also the extreme hypocrisy of this ruling, since abortion clinics are not required to refer their clients to local pro-life pregnancy centers. They are not even required to show the mother an ultrasound of her baby, since that would allegedly infringe on her rights.

God forbid that you remind her that she has a baby in her womb.

In an email announcing the Ninth Court’s ruling, Matt Bowman, Alliance Defending Freedom Senior Counsel, said, “It’s bad enough if the government tells you what you can’t say, but a law that tells you what you must say — under threat of severe punishment — is even more unjust and dangerous.”

The ADF is considering appealing the ruling, which, as stated, could ultimately make it to the Supreme Court, but with Hillary as president, you know how the court will rule.

Do you want to facilitate this by helping to elect her to the highest office in the land? Do you want to be one of the people who helped empower her to be president?

This brings me to a major bill in California, SB 1146 which “would officially label private Christian colleges with Christian values, morality, and even dorm policies which conflict with the LGBT agenda as ‘discriminatory,’ and make the colleges liable to state (and federal) lawsuits as well as vicious attacks by activists. . . . The goal is to make Christian colleges surrender their belief systems and force the LGBT agenda onto every facet of education. California is the first state in the US to attempt this outrageous action. If it passes there, it will surely spread to other states.”

This is the exact kind of legislation that Hillary Clinton would promote and celebrate, fully backed by her handpicked Supreme Court justices.

This would also be harmony with her oft-quoted phrase that “gay rights are human rights,” and therefore any group or denomination or nation that opposes the goals of LGBT activism is guilty of opposing human rights. And let’s not forget the pressure Hillary Clinton put on African nations in her 2011 speech in which she made clear that nations across the continent would need to change their policies regarding homosexuality.

Not surprisingly, there was a major backlash to her speech, with John Nagenda, a senior adviser to Uganda’s president Yoweri Museveni, stating, “Homosexuality here is taboo, it’s something anathema to Africans, and I can say that this idea of Clinton’s, of Obama’s, is something that will be seen as abhorrent in every country on the continent that I can think of.”

Can you imagine the kind of pressure Hillary Clinton would put on American Christians who remain opposed to same-sex “marriage” and LGBT activism in our children’s schools? After all, if she took it upon herself to tell sovereign African nations what to do, what would she seek to impose on her own country as president? And I haven’t even mentioned the open disdain expressed towards conservative Christians in her campaign’s recently released emails.

So I’ll say it again: Do not be deceived. We already know how a Hillary Clinton administration would view people like you and me.

I do understand that many of you cannot find it in yourself to vote for Donald Trump, but whatever you do, do not vote for Hillary Clinton, and please encourage your conservative Christian friends not to vote for her either. To do so is to hand her the tape to gag your mouths and the rope to fasten your hands.

You have been forewarned.

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  • Kris Webb

    Is a possible answer to this problem that these universities and pregnancy centers, etc., should break the laws or violate rulings that are trying to take their rights away? Would that be a biblical response? I’m not sure. As for voting for Clinton or Trump, I plan to vote for neither. A vote for Clinton, or any pro-abortion candidate, means I would have blood on my hands. But, a vote for Trump could also mean a vote for lots of dead people. Wouldn’t surprise me if he dropped a nuke on someone before his time in office was through, because he doesn’t have the temperament to be commander-in-chief.

    • carmenta

      You aren’t leaving much room for Grace there, are you? Or for the Godly men and women that Trump has surrounded himself with during this campaign.
      Voting is such a private matter, with such public consequences – Consider prayerfully if you can contemplate the known disaster of a Clinton presidency versus the far less likely scenario of Trump dropping a nuke in a temper. In your own words its a ‘would’ versus a ‘could’ – voting for anyone other than Trump, at this point, is either a sin of commission or omission in Catholic parlance – you either contribute directly or indirectly to a Clinton win.

      • Kris Webb

        It’s possible God has seen fit to surround Mr. Trump with godly men and women. That does not mean Trump will listen to them. As for my vote, not voting for Trump, or anyone else, does not help Clinton. And not voting for Clinton etc., does not help Trump. The two choices cancel each other out. Does that mean that I am leaving the decision of who will president up to other people? Yes. One may say that by not voting, I am not there to counteract the bad choice of someone who does vote. But, I am not responsible for that person’s vote. I am responsible for my own, and mine alone. This is a position I have come to after many months of considering, and reconsidering, and reconsidering, and reconsidering how I would vote. But, I will try to prayerfully keep my mind open to God’s will right up until November 8th.

        • spadestick

          A non-vote is as good as voting for the wicked witch. A vote for other candidates, because of the absolute impossibility of them winning, is as good as a non-vote, even if your intention is good. The road to hell is paved with good intentions and silence is consent. Besides, George Soros has decided that with his Smartmatic voting machines fully rigged and ready to go. Georgie boy and Saul Alinsky worshipper go way back.

          • brothergc

            yes your are correct and I agree , some just will not see the forest for the trees

          • stan schmunk

            Just nonsense, friend. So what will you do if Hillary’s elected?

          • spadestick

            I can only watch and pray from afar, all the way across the world, till the internet gets completely censored like FB, Google, Twitter with the great firewall of the world spread from China’s censorship wall.

          • stan schmunk

            So you’re going to leave the country? Scripture tells what your response should be. Would you like me to share them with you?

        • The Deuce

          A non-vote is not the same as a vote for Hillary. However, it does not go as far to stop Hillary as voting for her opponent does.

      • stan schmunk

        False. It’s not your call as to who we do or don’t vote for.

    • Kevin Quillen

      Kris; As a Christian, I could never refer some one to an abortion clinic. I would break the law. I will never violate the principles and teachings of my Lord. Never.

      • stan schmunk

        Who’s telling you to do that?

    • spadestick

      What brought you to the conclusion that he wishes to nuke anyone? You have been deceived by the media. He’s the anti-war president, where as the witch is the pro-war president. have a look, it’s everywhere on the mainstream news.

      • Kris Webb

        The media has nothing to do with it. I don’t want a man with his temperament anywhere near the nuclear codes.

        • spadestick

          haha… so funny. You’ve been sold that line hook line and sinker! Jun 5th 2016, huffington post. Jun 11, Politico, 26 September 2016, Hillary Clinton at the debates. Either that or you are a Hillary fan doing paid troll work around here.

          • stan schmunk

            I’ve watched him on TV hundreds of times. He’s a lying bully.

          • spadestick

            Have you watched Obama? Everytime his lips flap, he lies, just like the witch he endorses. If you want your Obama you can keep him.

          • stan schmunk

            You just committed a grievous sin. Would you like for me to share them with you?

    • The Deuce

      Trump has only responded to trash talk with more trash talk. I don’t see the nuclear worry there. Now, the fact that our current administration is escalating conflict with Russia over Wikileaks – THAT is scary.

    • Steven Evers

      The nuke nonsense shows how little you understand about what is required to actually launch an ICBM. Balance what you know to be certain against what you fear to be possible, it’s really no different than faith.

    • Kate Snyder

      You will like “Electing Not to Vote: Christian Reflections on Reasons for Not Voting.” It’s on Amazon.

    • Blue J

      The only time America ever nuked anyone was in 1945.

      Is that what you would call a “trend”?

      • Kris Webb

        So? Not sure I understand. Are you suggesting that because there’s no trend of us dropping nukes, Trump’s unlikely to do it? Just a guess.

  • …but Hillary is “experienced”, and therefore the only “qualified” candidate, riight?
    We need more of Obama’s policies- MORE progressive, liberal, socialist [COMMUNIST] policy to destroy capitalism, the work ethic, the family ethic, and promote the antichristian homosexual agenda and Sharia law, because “that’s who we are” as a a nation, right?
    Well, if that’s what a large block of Americans support, then the rest of us had better get prepared to meet the judgment of God – especially everyone too fearful to raise the standard of scripture against this darkness and
    teach their own children to be separate from this dark, evil word.

    • stan schmunk

      Capitalism is flourishing under Obama. And you don’t have any idea of what communism is.

  • Barbara

    Please tell me what the difference is between not voting for anyone or voting for a third party candidate, when the election is this close, and voting for her? Qui tacet concentire videtur – he who is silent is understood to consent. The choices are a potentially lewd candidate whose sins were committed long ago as a private citizen, a rich playboy at that, who is so determined to stand for Christian freedoms that the liberal media and every billionaire Democrat are in overdrive trying to bring him down; and the wicked agenda of a lifelong, polished and corrupt politician who wants to crush the church, and America, into dust.

    • john appleseed

      “Whose sins were committed long ago…”?
      Trump does his evil/immature/ignorant/indecisive act every day.
      I’m not recommending voting for Hillary! She’s evil.
      And I’m not recommending voting for Trump, because he’s evil.
      Our job is not to promote ‘the lesser of two great evils’, especially since impartial people can’t know which one is more evil.
      God has already decided who the next US president will be. If Trump or Hillary win, God will use the president to punish the USA for our many sins.
      Don’t try to help God punish the country! That’s his job. Our job is to bless people. Both Trump & Hillary are curses.

      • spadestick

        Trump is NOT evil. For that last time troll…

        • stan schmunk

          Prove it.

          • spadestick

            Howabout you try to prove that he is? All the policies he supports?

          • stan schmunk

            The tape, discussions on Howard Stern his worsip of Mammon, most of his policies are complete nonsense. List one and we’ll discuss them one-by-one.

  • davidrev17

    Wow Dr. Brown! That is actually some of the most encouraging news I’ve encountered in quite some time; when it comes to warning our so-called, chameleon-like professing Church here in good ol’ God Bless (post-Christian) America – that a Hillary Clinton presidency will necessitate our actually (and finally) having to begin living a genuinely biblical, New Testament Christian life!

    (You know, like our brothers & sisters in so many countries across this planet, of whom are being forced to experience that proverbial “Foxe’s Book of Martyrs,” sort of Christian existence?)

    So thank you for the great news brother, because if that’s what it takes to decisively remove that pacifier-of-prosperity from our mostly self-obsessd, and tragically backslidden idolatrous lives; whereby our Lord Jesus would finally be exalted & glorified amongst His radically revived, sold-out people – including the unregenerate “in the midst of this wicked and perverse generation” – then perhaps the “God and Father of our Lord Jesus the Messiah,” just might be involved in Divinely choreographing a presidential victory for Mrs. Clinton…for the sake of the lost throughout America, and “the honor of His great and mighty Name”???

    • spadestick

      I can’t believe you’re advocating for persecution, only a fool will ask for that!

      • stan schmunk

        But it is coming and may already be here with things like baking cakes for homosexuals. But Judgement on the church will come first here in the U.S. Would you like me to share the verses with you?

    • m-nj

      David,
      good post. i’ve actually had similar discussions with my friends at church… if you believe that God is sovereign in the affairs of men, that He sets up and disposes leaders, that His desire is the purity of His people (<< all Biblical truths), then it is not far-fetched to think He would allow (actively or passively) persecution to occur.

      of course, no one WANTS it, but to see God's hand in it makes it able to be borne with joy and faith

      • stan schmunk

        According to Peter the church will endure judgement (not persecution) first and it will be very difficult. We’re a combination of Ephesus and Laodecia and the judgement on them was severe.

  • Agreed. If you can’t vote for Trump vote third-party. Trump is immoral, but Hillary is Trump and more.

    I’ll be casting my vote for Darrell Castle. Feel free to check him. Just don’t let yourself be tempted into voting for Clinton.

    • spadestick

      Trump is no longer immoral, don’t you get it? 11 years is a long time. People change and move on, they mature and many cling to morals thereafter and regret what they had done in the past.

      • Elaine

        So can you give me some proof that he has become a new man? Only the facts please. I have facts that he came out and said he has never asked God for forgiveness.
        Christianity isn’t gullibility. Rumors fly and some Christians want to believe it so bad they buy it hook line and sinker. And if you don’t buy it you are being judgemental.

        • StandardCleo

          Do you have proof otherwise? Could he have recently come to Christ (after he said he did not need to ask for forgiveness)? We don’t know. But, he’s certainly surrounded himself with Christian advisers. As for him having said he did not need to ask for forgiveness, it’s my opinion that he said that because he thinks he can “do good” and work his way to heaven. He has been an amazing philanthropist, and sadly & mistakenly, he may be under the impression that’s all he has to do – “do good deeds.” WRONG! He needs to know the truth of the Gospel. As Believers, we should be praying for this man, because he does have Christian advisers. Let’s pray they will have open doors to share the true Gospel with him. I do believe he is open to it.

          • TruthTeller (Deplorable)

            Hillary has two reverends campaigning for her. Rev. Sharpton and Rev. Jackson.

          • StandardCleo

            And those two are laughable.

        • Jim Walker

          Elaine,
          You can see a leader by how he chooses his generals.
          Trump chose Pence, whom, in every speech he made, says I’m a Christian, a Conservative and a Republican.
          Trump did not pick a Yes man to act as a dog like Hillary picking Kaine, who to me is a barking dog.
          He did not pick someone of the same character/personality as him like Hillary, who wants someone likeminded.
          Pence is picked to be an advisor and he will tell Trump as it is, Pence is a counterweight and the stabilizing force, Kaine will agree with everything Hillary says.

          A Trump/Pence Presidency is one that is rock solid to deliver a strong leadership that US needs.

          • Susan Daily

            What if Hillary got really sick and Kaine became president?

          • stan schmunk

            Pence has compromised his Christianity. He’s now repeating Trump’s lies. If you think that any of these Christian ‘leaders’ can influence Trump…He’s just saying what needs to be said to secure the evangelical vote. He’s talking like he wants to be dictator.

          • Jim Walker

            The only lies I hear and were exposed were Hillary’s.
            Do you consider Trump’s policies or he dismisses the sexual assault (where are the proof?), as lies ?
            Then the opposite is definitely true for Hillary and hers are not just lies but destructive to USA.

          • stan schmunk

            Not voting for either but Trump lies far more than Hillary and there is no proof he’s changed, NONE.

          • Jim Walker

            Tell me something that you don’t like about Hillary.

          • stan schmunk

            She’s pro-abortion and same-sex marriage and there’s corruption in her history but nothing like the right-wing press is claiming.

        • spadestick

          He has raised great children who really vouch for him and love him. That’s is all a dad can ask for. Proof is in the current pudding, not some stale decade old rotten pie. Hillary’s pie is still rotting and her current policies will rot America even further. Remember a non-vote is as good as a vote for Hillary

          • stan schmunk

            So it’s wrong to pray for Hillary? Isn’t Chelsea a credit to her mom?

      • I see no evidence of this

    • brothergc

      then IMO your wasting your vote that could be used to keep Clinton out of office . neither Castle , or any of the other minority canidates have a snowballs chance of winning . Hey I am no trump fan by no means , BUT He does stand a chance of winning and that would mean a vote for trump would be a vote to keep a Hillary out of office

      • Castle could win if everyone who said that voted for him.

        Your wasting your vote with an extremely flawed candidate that neither wants nor can win. If he truly cared about the country he would step down so a candidate that can win would be able to replace him

    • StandardCleo

      If we don’t want HRC in the WH, our only alternative to keeping her out is voting for her only opponent – Trump.

      • Castle could win if everyone who said that voted for him.

    • m-nj

      i did hear an interesting scenario from someone the other day … If (and its a BIG if) a third party candidate could pull off 1 or 2 states (maybe even one 3rd party in one state, and one in another state), then neither Hillary or Trump could get to the required electoral college total, and the election would be thrown to the congress. so in this sense, a vote for a 3rd party candidate in a strategic state could influence the election. low probability, but still possible.

  • spadestick

    Trump is no longer immoral, don’t you get it? 11 years is a long time. People change and move on, they mature and many cling to morals thereafter and regret what they had done in the past.

  • Dan Held

    At issue in this blog is the changing of western – civilization in our time, not unlike the entry of the Renaissance half a millenium ago. The post – Christian and post-modern world, however, will not be a post – Christ world. Rather , it will bring the end of patriarchy and mysogeny much in the tone of Jesus Himself. The words of Jesus to “be not afraid” are needing yet another repetition in our minds through the Spirit’s breath. We white men in America naturally prefer the old wineskins for Jesus, but they are presently leaking in ways we can no longer deny. This doe not mean Armageddon is at hand. Only that the Spirit of Christ has brought the winds of change to our western civilization no less than when Martin Luther himself was known for certain to be Satan incarnate here to destroy all that was then believed sacred.

    • Dean Bruckner

      The Left never builds anything, except for the piles of skulls and fields of human bones they leave behind. Like any parasite, they instead infiltrate and corrupt and pervert structures working as designed, albeit imperfectly. Through lies and coercion they commandeer the processes and machinery of life and liberty, and instead bring only disease, perversion, arrogance, slavery, hatred, loneliness, violence and death. If you’re a Leftist, it’s what you do.

      The 20th Century tried your utopia several times, in socialist utopian projects with stolen names:

      The National Socialist German Workers Party, the Soviet Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the People’s Republic of China, the Socialist Republic of Vietnam, Democratic Kampuchea, the Democratic Republic of North Korea, the Republic of Cuba, and a host of lesser, fawning Marxist organizations including portions of the Democratic Party of the U.S. under President Barack Obama and presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.

      Th only things left behind in these inhuman projects were suffering, poverty and death, and lots and lots of these. One hundred million dead in the 20th century, plus nearly one billion abortions in the last 50 years.

      Your enlightened Marxist utopia will double down on the culture of death, and will make the 20th Century look like a kindergarten Shame on you.

      I urge you, repent while there is still time. God will forgive your sins through the blood of Jesus Christ, shed on the cross for you and me, as he did my sins. Jesus rose from the dead and now says, “If anyone believes in me, as the scripture says, from his innermost being will flow rivers of living water.”

      God loves you. He wants to save you and bring you into his forever family. But the choice is yours, and the time is short.

      • phxflyguy

        Look up Alan Turing. Without him you wouldn’t have been able to type those words on your “Devil Machine”.

      • stan schmunk

        Your last two paragraphs are excellent but to compare liberalism in the U.S. to those other regimes is absolute conspiracy theory nonsense.

        • Dean Bruckner

          “Your last two paragraphs are excellent but to compare liberalism in the U.S. to those other regimes is absolute conspiracy theory nonsense.”

          Is it? How much have you read about the Weimar Republic of Germany? The most progressive, most educated, most technologically sophisticated, and arguably the most cultured society on the face of the earth was, morally and spiritually speaking, a hollow shell, a rotting husk. It was ripe for exploitation by the progressives of that day, just as the U.S. is today.

          Anyone who cannot recognize that abortion is a genocidal evil, and that the celebration of all kinds of s3xual misuse of the body is a corruption of what it means to be human, is ready for more genocide, and lots of it. The Progressives have murdered 54 million beautiful pre-born Americans; that is not a conspiracy theory. It is demonic, to be sure.

          It will not take much more Progressivism to plunge the U.S. into a second concurrent genocide, in addition to the one of abortion already going on.

          “Wake up, sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you!” – Ephesians 5:14

          • stan schmunk

            I know German history very well. Are you saying that Hitler was a progressive? I’m pro-life but you blaming only progressives have murdered those babies is a lie. American women/girls have ALWAYS had abortions, whether they’re GOP, Dem, liberal, conservativve, conservative Christian, etc. Roe v Wade only recognized what was already happening and it was primarily a GOP court. No one is forcing American women to have abortions like China does.

          • Dean Bruckner

            Hitler was a socialist and a statist, and was on the Left just like Progressives, who bear 95% of the current responsibility for the genocide of abortion int he United States. Progressivism is an evil idolatry that will be judged severely by God for its murderous culture of hate and death.

            Roe v Wade, like everything Progressives do, was based on a pile of lies. It WASN’T rape, the baby IS fully human, there WERE NOT tens of thousands of abortion deaths, etc. etc. It was, until Casey and Obergefell, the most ridiculous example of unconstitutional and anti-constitutional violence ever performed by the Supreme Court, with the possible exception of the Dred Scott case.

            Progressivism poisons everything.

    • spadestick

      Not sure what you are trying to say. There’s is sin in a myriad of words… Keep it simple, like Jesus.

    • The Deuce

      “Rather , it will bring the end of patriarchy and mysogeny much in the tone of Jesus Himself.”

      Take your false secular gospel to hell with you.

      • stan schmunk

        He’s right. Jesus destroyed both those traditions.

    • Steven Evers

      Their are no leaking wineskins in the bible, only bottles, and bottles don’t leak, they shatter. (look it up, leaking wineskins is a modern translation and a biblical fable) King James Bible, not NIV

      • m-nj

        you are wrong. the KJV was a translation from the Greek into the English equivalent at the time the KJV was written. The greek is

        779. askos ►
        Strong’s Concordance
        askos: a leather bottle, wineskinOriginal Word: ἀσκός, οῦ, ὁ
        Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
        Transliteration: askos
        Phonetic Spelling: (as-kos’)
        Short Definition: a wine-skin
        Definition: a wine-skin, leather bottle.

        Get off the KJV-only bandwagon and use the tools that are available. ONLY the original Hebrew/Greek (and sometimes Aramaic) are inspired.

        but i agree with you that the verses alluded to talk about “bursting” winskins, not “leaking” wineskins… meaning the new totally destroys the old.

    • m-nj

      [Dan Held stated]
      “Rather , it will bring the end of patriarchy and mysogeny much in the tone of Jesus Himself.”
      [end]

      So, do you attend a dying mainline church presided over by a practicing lesbian “pastor”?

      If anything, the changes that will come about by persecution and loss of religious liberty in the civil law of this country will be a PURIFICATION of the church from these anti-Biblical ideas

    • Blue J

      Wow, just piles of silly left-wing cliches.

    • jjgrndisland

      Another apostate clergyman. Nothing new.

  • Deacon Keith Fournier

    Dr Michael Brown is correct. To vote for Hillary Clinton is to “hand her the tape to gag our mouths and the rope to fasten our hands.” Most assuredly, politics will not restore the collapsed culture. Only a genuine conversion can do that. However, the Church must be free to preach the fullness of the message of the Gospel which will bring about that conversion.

    Here is how I see it. One of the two major party candidates will win. Only one of those two candidates will free the Church to do that and protect the free exercise of religion. The other will unleash even more secular governmental persecution against the Church.

    • brothergc

      well said !

    • stan schmunk

      We’re free to share the Gospel any time we want. The Church is free as a bird and Clinton can’t change that. As long as we can share Christ with our friends, neighbors and family…we’re free.

  • Paul Garrison

    Good than all the false believers will leave the buildings and the Body of Christ will grow. King Jesus The Christ only promised us two things.Heaven and persecution.

    • stan schmunk

      Who are the false believers?

  • spadestick

    A non-vote is as good as voting for the wicked witch. A vote for other candidates, because of the absolute impossibility of them winning, is as good as a non-vote, even if your intention is good. The road to hell is paved with good intentions and silence is consent.

    • Elaine

      So a non vote for Hillary is a vote for Trunp? …???

      • Elmer Henderson

        No trump needs your vote to defeat the devil. At least he is not openly supporting gay ….yet.

        • DallasJim

          Trump was gay friendlynintil he ran for president. He will be again as soon as you elect him.

          • stan schmunk

            His opinions now on moral issues are just to secure the evangelical vote. This is an old GOP trick that I’ve watched since Goldwater in ’64 and ‘Nixon in ’68. Falwell turned it into an art because he was angry that the IRS wouldn’t let him get tax-exempt status for his all white little college.

          • DallasJim

            Yes. The Moral Majority was neither.

          • Dean Bruckner

            Which “all white little college” are you referring to? Be careful; I was there in its early days, so I will spot it quickly if you lie. Include dates.

          • stan schmunk

            The one that became Liberty. My statement is true. Bob Jones didn’t bow to the IRS but Falwell did.

          • Dean Bruckner

            What, you can’t even bother to look up the original name or its founding year when you repeat a libel? I’m calling total BS on your false claim. Hint: the Nixon policy decision and the Supreme Court court case confirming it predated the founding of the college.

            Jerry Falwell had faults, but this was not one of them. He opposed the policy and the court decision, because he rightly saw the ability to tax as the ability to destroy, and that is going to happen if Clinton becomes the next President, God forbid. But the college was never all white and it never excluded or segregated blacks.

          • stan schmunk

            Lynchburg Christian Academy 1967. Falwell was a rabid segregationist. It’s all well documented.

        • Don Fisher

          The GOP Party Platform openly supports gays. That’s why they had a gay speaker at the convention (Peter Thiele) endorsing Trump.

        • Rinny

          They are BOTH devils.

          • stan schmunk

            No, that’s stupid.

      • JRPettus

        A non vote is a vote for Hillary. The moral imperative is to vote for Trump. All Christians, conservative or liberal should vote for Trump. Catholics, Evangelicals, Protestants, Mormons, All Christians should unite to vote for Trump. No Christian should support any politician who is not pro life. Hillary would even advocate late term abortions.

        • Elaine

          Why isn’t a non vote a vote for Trump? We need to critically think.

          • spadestick

            the machines are owned by Soros under the Smartmatic brand. Soros and the entire media is behind Hillary plain and simple. Are you working for Hillary?

          • Elaine

            Because I have real issues with Trump means I am working for Hillary? I am critically thinking and not just buying all the lies on social media.

          • spadestick

            well I hope you continue to think critically rather than base your vote on emotions. Anybody that Obama derides publically is worth my vote because you know that he singling out a person of truth, that’s how you not buy into the lies.

          • stan schmunk

            So what’s your opinion of Obama?

          • spadestick

            He’s got the slickest tongue on the planet, full of lying hate smothered with peanut butter and honey. Smooth talking ain’t the truth Schmunk.

          • stan schmunk

            As believers we’re free to vote for whoever we want or not vote at all. It’s no one else’s business.

          • stan schmunk

            Nonsense. I follow all three cable news channels and I take the Los Angeles Times. All 4 are being fair to both candidates although Fox is leaning obviously toward Trump with Hannity functioning as a Trump surrogate. BTW, where do you get your information?

          • spadestick

            I get my info from pastors who are in tune with the Almighty. You obviously get yours from the mainstream media which have just stated in another comment.

          • stan schmunk

            Pastors aare notorious for being wrong on politics. BTW, are you a Christian? If you are then you’ve sinned greatly against God by your comments about Obama. Shall I cite you the Scriptures?

          • JRPettus

            A non-vote potentially has the very damaging effect of electing Hillary. But Madam, if you are voting Hillary then by all means please stay home. But I am pro-life, pro keeping this country a Judaeo Christian country, pro liberty, pro Independence from Elitism control. I cannot imagine for the life of me why any Christian would vote for any politician that would be in favor of abortion or dramatic increase in Muslim refugees when there are so many Christians being persecuted in those countries.

          • Elaine

            I would never vote for Hillary or any person who is pro abortion or pro choice.

          • Aadal

            If we actually cared about Christians then we’d not count Saudi Arabia and Israel as our two main allies in the Middle East. Syria had many Christians who were safe under Assad, now they are being massacred by our Saudi/Israeli backed “moderates”. Iraq had many Christians, but most have fled since our “liberation” in 2003. In Palestine the very home of Christianity, Christians have been forced from their lands by Jewish settlements (as have Muslim Palestinians too). Most Christians have now left Palestine too.

            US Christianity is to the real Christianity in the Holy Land what Pizza Hut is to real Italian food. A poor imitation.

      • spadestick

        Nope, the entire election is rigged towards Hillary. You need to understand that the machines are owned by Soros under the Smartmatic brand. These are pre-calibrated for Hillary results for all non-votes.

        • Elaine

          Don’t believe all the social media conspiracy theories. Now if Trump would win it isn’t rigged?

          • spadestick

            it’s not a conspiracy theory. It is fact. Search the terms “smartmatic” and “soros”. Their website says they are funded by Soros. I fail to understand your logic, maybe it’s just pure emotion you are riding on. Look – I don’t like Trump’s mannerisms, his style, his hair and his demeanor and his carnal past, but the fact is – the policies he upholds are for good, and Hillary’s are for evil. It is as clear as night and day. IF YOU FAIL TO UNDERSTAND THIS SIMPLE TRUTH, you are clearly deceived or I think you are a secretly working for the witch.

          • stan schmunk

            So you’re condemning those of us who won’t vote for Trump. You’re proposing a fantastical conspiracy theory and you say we’re deceived?

          • spadestick

            It’s a fact that you’re entirely deceived. I live on the other side of the planet, and can plainly see what’s going on with an outside lens. You on the other hand, work for them Clintons.

        • stan schmunk

          All lies, friend, all lies.

          • spadestick

            Yep, you’re full of it too.

    • StandardCleo

      Agree. If we don’t want HRC in the WH, our only alternative to keeping her out is voting for her only opponent – Trump.

      • Rinny

        Rump is not the ONLY other candidate. many are voting for 3rd party and or writing in #Cruz

        • StandardCleo

          There is no 3rd party candidate, nor can writing in Cruz, be of any threat to HRC. Only Trump is, but keep telling yourself whatever you’d like to make yourself feel better. 3rd party voters, Write In voters and those staying home will be responsible for a HRC presidency.

        • spadestick

          Nope, the entire election is rigged towards Hillary. You need to understand that the machines are owned by Soros under the Smartmatic brand. You are doing the entire nation a total disaster by being responsible for a HRC presidency

          • phxflyguy

            If it’s all rigged, then why bother to vote? Is it only rigged to a certain point? I’m not quite getting what you’re saying.

          • spadestick

            Rigged as in the weighted towards Hillary, but not 100%, more like 66% to that effect. If they did 90% to 100%, it would be too obvious and a mass revolt would occur.

          • stan schmunk

            No proof of that at all. Each state takes care of it’s own election processes. This is what scoundrels do. They attack the election process, attack the media, attack the Jewish owned banks, attack other countries for robbing us, etc. Do you know who wrote that playbook?

          • spadestick

            Soros wrote the playbook, probably your friend by the sounds of it.

          • stan schmunk

            Wow, have you ever been deceived. How old are you, ten? And which credible sources are feeding you this stuff?

          • spadestick

            So really, in all honesty now – How much did she pay you?

          • stan schmunk

            That’s just scuttlebut. Most states are Red and Trump is still within 4-5 points. You literally don’t know what you’re talking about.

          • spadestick

            Smartmatic schmunk, Smartmatic. Soros is your friend.

    • m-nj

      i did hear an interesting scenario from someone the other day … If (and its a BIG if) a third party candidate could pull off 1 or 2 states (maybe even one 3rd party in one state, and one in another state), then neither Hillary or Trump could get to the required electoral college total, and the election would be thrown to the congress. so in this sense, a vote for a 3rd party candidate in a strategic state could influence the election. low probability, but still possible.

      • spadestick

        given the crazy election this has been, the low probability is near absolute zero – so just vote pence in.

    • stan schmunk

      Not your’s to judge. I will not vote for either but won’t condemn believers who vote for Clinton. Falwell started this with Reagan and now conservatives are linked to the GOP. Why didn’t we reach out to Dems during Carter’s administration? Why haven’t we reached we reached out to Clinton? Is she irredeemable?

      • spadestick

        She is irredeemable till found behind bars.

        • stan schmunk

          Oh my…Are you speaking for God?

          • spadestick

            Oh my, are you defending Hillary? How much did she pay you? some EMBT credits?

  • Steven Evers

    Proverbs 16:4
    The LORD works out everything to its proper end– even the wicked for a day of disaster.

  • john appleseed

    “Hillary Clinton Will Declare War on You” — True.
    She would be like the Roman emperors that persecuted the Church until Constantine.
    But Trump would be like Constantine, who was a sun-god worshiper for many years while he was hosting Church discussions about doctrine & promoting Church leaders into secular government positions.
    Under the persecution, the Church was pure.
    Under Constantine, a great corruption of the faith occurred, mixing Christianity with paganism.
    I’m not recommending voting for Hillary! She’s evil.
    And I’m not recommending voting for Trump, because he’s evil.
    Our job is not to promote ‘the lesser of two great evils’, especially since impartial people can’t know which one is more evil.
    God has already decided who the next US president will be. If Trump or Hillary win, God will use the president to punish the USA for our many sins.
    Don’t try to help God punish the country! That’s his job. Our job is to bless people.

    • spadestick

      Yep… so you’re saying trump is evil, just like all his children, and children’s children. Very good sir. According to you, everyone on earth is evil, including yourself. The wheat and the tares are together, only the angels get to separate them. Hillary however is the fast-track into hell on earth.

      • stan schmunk

        Prove it. Even with a GOP Congress?

        • spadestick

          It is also obvious the GOP is fraudulent, I’ll repeat it again…

          All you have to do is see how they treat their voter base over Trump. That is how much they serve the elite, rather than the American people. If the Republican party actually cared about the people, they’d be studying Trump to see what the American people want, and then try to do it. That is what a democratic republic is supposed to do. We already knew the Democrat party was pure fraud, but to see just how big the monster really is, one only needs to see how the republican party has behaved. And yes, republican blowhard Glenn Beck received a huge payoff from the Clinton foundation, which says who he served all along. No wonder why he was such a scumbag when it all came down to the wire

          • stan schmunk

            You’re the wildest conspiracy theorist I’ve ever run across in 55 years of watching. You will literally believe anything some nutjob says.

          • spadestick

            And you’re the biggest troll I’ve met so far. How much did she pay you?

    • stan schmunk

      Not necessarily to punish…

  • Patmos

    “Hillary Clinton Will Declare War on You”

    Doesn’t matter, I’m already at war with her.

    “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” -Ephesians 6:12

    “…that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.” -1 John 4:3

    A little side note to Hillary’s “basket of deplorables” remark went unnoticed, in that she also referred to those people as irredeemable. In doing so she committed the one unforgivable sin mentioned by Jesus, as the Holy Ghost says all are redeemable.

    “And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.” -Matthew 12:32

    And if anyone else was still in doubt as to whether or not this evil woman has a spirit of deceit in her, a spirit of wickedness, I refer you to this also unfortunately largely unnoticed Wikileaks release:

    “And as I’ve mentioned, we’ve all been quite content to demean government, drop civics and in general conspire to produce an unaware and compliant citizenry. The unawareness remains strong but compliance is obviously fading rapidly. This problem demands some serious, serious thinking – and not just poll driven, demographically-inspired messaging.”

    This email is from a high up Clinton associate to John Podesta, the head of Hillary’s campaign. I have seen claims that the Russians have been involved in some of these recent Wikileaks, thing is even if you remove this piece of evidence you’d still have a pretty damning case.

    Hillary has to be stopped, plain and simple, not just for her potential threat to religious liberty but for her potential threats to this country and the world at large.

    • m-nj

      hmmm.. i find this to be a silly comment

      [Patmosed stated]
      A little side note to Hillary’s “basket of deplorables” remark went unnoticed, in that she also referred to those people as irredeemable. In doing so she committed the one unforgivable sin mentioned by Jesus, as the Holy Ghost says all are redeemable.

      “And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.” -Matthew 12:32
      [end]

      1st – where in the world do you get the idea that Hillary was thinking of the word “irredeemable” in the Biblical sense? She is a statist totalitarian… she was speaking along the lines of all dictators… irredeemable in her mind means they cannot be “re-educated” or otherwise molded by the power of the state to think what the state wants them to think.

      2nd – the verse you cite does not say that the Holy Spirit says all are redeemable. The Holy Spirit’s witness is that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God (basically, the Gospel). the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is to essential call Him a liar (or even a demon) and deny His witness that Jesus is the Christ…. there is no salvation for someone who rejects the Gospel.

      • Patmos

        1st – To label a group of people as irredeemable speaks to the spirit of Hillary. Compare and contrast that to the spirit of Christ, The Holy Spirit, who extends his hand to all. The very fact that she has no Biblical sense speaks for itself.

        2nd – God desires all to be saved. (1 Timothy 2:4)

        The dark spirit that is inside of Hillary is as plain as day. Don’t know how you missed it, or why you tried to defend it through your theological dance. The kingdom of God is not in word but in power. May your thoughts and deeds not be enticed by Man’s wisdom from this point forward, but rather be a demonstration of Spirit and power.

        • m-nj

          i was not in any way defending her comment, nor would i find any defense of it acceptable

          i thought your comment was silly because you were granting her comment, as abhorent as it was, with more spiritual significance than it had…she was not speaking from a Biblical or christian point of view

          bringing up 2 Tim 2:4 now is a bait and switch… i was responding to your misapplication of the Gospel verse about blaspheming the Holy Spirit.

    • stan schmunk

      Please tell me what you think those 3 sentences mean.

  • TruthTeller (Deplorable)

    Dr. Brown, you openly warned people about the evils of Donald Trump in many recent articles you have written. Now we received warnings about Hillary. To vote for a third party candidate is futile, as none have any chance to be elected. Neither Hillary nor Donald are fit to lead America. Given a choice between the two, Hillary’s America will look far different from Trump’s America four years into the future. Christians would do well to read the book of Esther. There are those hoping to come into influence and power who want to punish and destroy the Christians of America today. One candidate, if elected, will facilitate those people. One has publicly proclaimed to defend the church if elected. Stay home, or vote a certain way, and if you are a Christian, you will put your future into the hands of one who plans your demise. Esther 4:14.

    • spadestick

      What’s your message? It’s not very clear? Are you for or against?

  • Michael Ortega

    There are a handful of good points in this article and in the comments…

    Do not vote for Hillary Clinton.

    But I also do not understand how conservative Christians can vote for Donald Trump. He is everything a conservative Christian strives NOT to be. He represents the exact opposite of the principles of the church.

    “But God can use anyone… even the Harlets”… sure, but he wouldn’t advise that you sleep with them…

    There is no war on Christianity… this is a fugazi designed to influence you to go against your moral compass and vote for a lying, stealing, filthy human being named Donald Trump.

    A vote for Clinton is a vote for evil.

    A vote for Trump is a vote for evil.

    A vote for a 3rd party is only wasted if you do not believe them worthy of the position they are applying. I will be voting Gary Johnson and I hope others will do the same or take a stand and stay home.

    I look at my vote like this: If my candidate wins, and gets the most vote in the history of the USA (which is likely this election)… am I going to feel ok with helping them achieve that record breaking designation?

    A vote against somebody is still a vote FOR somebody… make sure that they are worthy of your vote.

    • Jim Walker

      Vote base on who will protect your religious freedom, who will select conservative supreme justice, who will be pro-life, who will reduce taxes and attract the corporations to bring jobs back, who will abolish Obamacare, who will make schools educate instead of indoctrinate, who will stop the corruption in govt and corporations etc etc etc.
      Your choice is very clear.

      • stan schmunk

        He can’t do any of that even though he’s actually running for dictator. His own conduct is putting the Senate at risk which will guarantee his failure. Even if he could do those things our debt would explode to unbelievable levels. BTW, the only reason that jobs left was because of the difference in wages. No country stole them. American businessmen (mostly GOP?) took them away in search of much greater profits.

        • Jim Walker

          Stan, who says his tax reduction will explode US debt ? Will the current policy to increase more taxes help to reduce US debt ? NO. Because it only pushes all companies to invest in other countries to enrich them and sell back the goods and services back to US tax-free using NAFTA.
          Even with the current system, most Big corporations in US do not pay tax (they have very smart accountants and do it legally) and in fact receive govt funding in the form of skill training etc. This is a joke and proves all presidents, including up to Obama were controlled by special interest groups.
          His tax reduction to 15% directly competes with other countries, say Hong Kong is @ 16%, Singapore – 17% and these 2 countries have cost of living much higher than most parts of the US.
          Now Wages ? you are a frog in the well. Wages in US are higher than Hong Kong and Singapore ? NO. Due to your high tax, much of your wages goes into income tax, and if compare apple to apple by the wages of the same job, US is paying even lower than other countries, while in other countries, the income tax is very low for lower brackets and max 20% for top income earners. The key is to spur domestic consumption and tax that, which is regressive but no Top income earner can escape it and they definitely consume (goods and services) much more than peasants like me.
          There, go figure.

          • stan schmunk

            All trickle down theory. You’re assuming that American businesses left the states because of high taxes. They didn’t. To help Japan and the Euros to rebuild after WW 2 we allowed in some imports. Cars from Europe and children’s clothes and toys from Japan. Later we let in Japanese cars and while Detroit doddered imports became 60 % of car sales in California. But in the ’80s American companies began to go overseas to take advantage of low wages. Garment factories that were paying $5-7 here could pay $22-25 a MONTH in Indonesia, Vietnam, Bangladesh, Cambodia, etc. There were no days off, 14 hr days with no overtime, one break, no benefits, nothing. Soes followed and then everyone elser up to the present day. Ford made ot very clear that wage differential was the main reason it moved to Mexico. Don’t believe Trump’s lies. BTW, the trade deals were GOP ideas. They’re the party of free trade not the Dems. Trump is actually running against the GOP.

          • Jim Walker

            Cost of production in 3rd world countries are much cheaper than the US, I don’t deny that. US should not pursue to compete cheap productions. However, there are many high quality/high precision products US can make that can compete. But it is not just production, there are a broad spectrum of business that US companies left due to the tax rate increases.
            I always believe that the Repub and Democrats are peas in a pod and GOP are against Trump for shaking their cozy slumber.
            Wages in US are high, but a big portion goes to taxes.
            If you compare real wages, many developing countries are either on par or even higher than US and they are still producing goods and exporting to US.
            I’m not from the US and frankly I won’t like Trump to be President as his policies will put where I am now in jeopardy. But US having a U$20T debt cannot continue to be great, therefore, something has to give…

          • stan schmunk

            Trump will increase the debt by $10 trillion by the most rteputable reports. And he’ll start trade wars with his big tariffs which will increase the cost of goods here.

      • AJ

        Yup, religion is way more important than ensuring that fellow Americans are not denied insurance because of pre existing conditions or going bankrupt because of their health problems. Mighty Christian of you.

    • Paul Bird

      Your comments re Trump are full of bunkum, Michael. You lack proper discernment as to what God is doing in Trump’s life. Trump does submit himself to the prayers of Christians, he humbles himself in that regard. Yes, he has a lot that must be dealt with in that regard – but who of us does not. Beware, your Pharisaical attitude of condemnation against what the Lord is doing in Trump’s life will bring His dealings upon you – for nothing you have said against Trump is of God!

      • Joanne Kemmerer

        Actions speak louder than words. I see God’s grace working in Donald Trump. Since 2011, he no longer supports abortion on demand after personal friends’ experience The 2016 Republican Party Platform is the most conservative ever, including calling for an amendment to define that life begins at conception. Trump picked Mike Pence as VP. Pence led the effort in Congress to defund Planned Parenthood, it was the Pence Amendment. Trump picked Kellyanne Conway to be his campaign manager. She debated Cecile Richards, PP President, on TV, a few years ago. And Trump invited approx 1,000 ministers, priests, and rabbis to the Trump Tower to discuss religious liberty issues.

        • stan schmunk

          The GOP platform calls for no exceptions for abortion and Trump says the women should be punished. Platforms are notorious for being totally irrelevant to the candidates. Extremists in both parties write them to influence elections. The GOP has been pro-life since Reagan but what ever have they done to really get rid of abortion? Here’s the truth: If we really cared about the issue our ‘leaders’ would lead us to surround every abortion clinic on killing days with tens of thousands of us. Instead they talk it to death and beg us to send money to them so they can talk it to death some more. And now they say we have to elect this immoral man who worships Mammon like few others to save our nation from disaster. Scripture is right when it says that, ‘He who sits in the heavens laughs. The Lord scoffs at them’.

      • stan schmunk

        So no criticisms of Trump are of God? That’s not true at all. There is no evidence of God doing anything in his life. He still lies, slanders, brags, etc. Saying that God condemns those of us that are evaluating Trump and find that he is not qualified to be president is about as Pharisaical as can be.

    • JRPettus

      In Africa, the Middle East, and to a less degree the US, there is a war on Christianity. But we have to leave judgement to God and while in this existence we make the best decisions possible. I have prayed for many years to give us wise leaders to turn around what was happening in Washington and many of our state houses. Is Trump the man God sent? One who knows one? We know for absolute sure a vote for Hillary or Gary Johnson (helps elects Hillary) is a vote for evil. We do not know that about Trump. If all Christians row together for a change including Catholics we can turn this country around and re-establish our Judaeo Christian heritage. Give Trump One Term and we hold his feet to the fire.

      • stan schmunk

        Exactly what is our Judeo-Christian heritage? Be specific.

      • Clara Mae Jones

        Wrong that would be Trump.

    • spadestick

      Soros under the Smartmatic brand is running the voting machines. Soros and the entire media is behind Hillary plain and simple. A non-vote or a vote for another candidate is a vote for Hillary.

    • Joanne Kemmerer

      Please see my comment to Paul Bird below which probably should have been for you!

  • Jim Walker

    Frankly, I’d buy a very good spec smartphone from a loudmouth, rough at the edges sales person instead of buying a overhyped one from liar.

  • spadestick

    all trump supporters should wear red and clear print saying you are for trump

    spread the word. it has to be visual. wear red for trump. and you should wear clear print, even if it is hand written on paper, “trump”, – or the scamming media will twist it. they probably won’t report it at all. mark my words: this is what they will say: “trump did better than expected, but hillary won by a hair.”

    the election will be stolen if they can do it. and the line will be: “trump did better than expected but hillary won by a hair.”

    they will say: “trump did great, and lost. better than expected and lost”

    that is how mind control programming works: say someone did good and lost anyway, the compliment in contrast with the loss turns people’s brains off, be ready for it it will happen because they are the masters of this and they will do it all the while trump in reality took it by 85 percent or more.

    the polls saying the race is close are lies, a setup for a stolen election.

    • stan schmunk

      Speaking of mind control, sir…

      • spadestick

        schmunk the supertroll in full swing.

        • stan schmunk

          You’re the troll.

  • spadestick

    Pay no attention to this “Michael Ortega”, Check out his fake profile, and this is one and only comment his has made under a false profile. In other words a paid troll for Hillary and by Hillary! They are coming folks, to plant seeds of doubt, doing the devil’s work!

  • oldlady80Pat Rogers

    I have before me right now a copy of what Hillary has said:Hillary Clinton says she will use government force to make you reject your Christian faith! “Laws have to be backed up with resources and political will. And deep -seated religious beliefs have to be changed” Hillary Rodham Clinton April 23, 2015. (speech delivered at the Women’s World Summit.)

    • stan schmunk

      Religous beliefs toward women in developing countries DO need to be changed.

  • Lisa DeSherlia

    I think Trump will be just as bad for us as he will will divide us up as a Church. He will damage us just as much, but in a far different way. And with him being caught in so many lies, what makes you think he will actually protect the unborn and keep his promises?

    • brothergc

      this is a tough election , but one thing is sure Clinton is Pro abortion while trump is a wild card so if your againt abortion the choice should be crystal clear

      • stan schmunk

        It’s not clear to me. What do you expect a conservative SC to do, repeal Roe v Wade, overturn same-sex? Neither of those will happen but if they did the most that would happen would be that the issues would return to the states and I doubt much would change. American women have always had abortions and always will and most states haave OKd same-sex marriage. The root of the problem is our amoral secular godless, Christless, Bible-less Constitution. Moral issues are left to science not the Bible. We have Good News to share with the lost. Let’s share it.

        • Clara Mae Jones

          Stan you are so correct. The majority of the people that agree with the original seriously have issues. It is so sad and am about to leave this site because there is nothing Chris like about this foolishness and I simply refuse to waste any more time on it. People can believe and think what they want to because it are the ones that is putting down the bible and they might as well be cursing our Savior.

        • davidrev17

          Stan:

          “Moral issues are left to science not the Bible,” you say??

          Then why on earth was it, that no less than Albert Einstein declared (and I paraphrase), that “man will always be able to construct an ethical foundation for science, but science will not be able to construct a scientific foundation for ethics”?? Just let that sink-in for awhile. And his prescient observation is still an empirical fact!

          Also: I don’t care how Godless, post-Christian America has become since Western man had formally, and no doubt delusionally declared the “death of God” around the turn of the 20th-century; because the objective “[moral] laws” of God – are still ineradicably “written on the heart” of all H@#o sapiens. (Romans 2:14-15) Yet this is something for which we’re all ultimately “accountable,” before an unimaginably Holy Creator God.

          And it’s called “conscience” Stan – as in the “Imago Dei,” the very method, or inescapable reality (meaning the Ten Commandments of the Decalogue), through and by which God has Divinely choreographed that “fallen” mankind becomes guilty before Him (i.e., Romans 3:19-31) – as we’ve obviously broken them all, in one form or another.

          But, as you must surely know: God has provided the only way-out of our tragically hopeless condition; thus enabling us to become “new creations in Christ” – when experiencing true inner-conversion, or actual transformation – by one’s acquiring that “new heart” from above, after having received the good news of the “gospel of God’s Son” – through repentance & faith in the Lord Yeshua/Jesus.

          And this wonderful news, remains mankind’s only steadfast remedy, or spiritual cure! So contra your erroneous UNbiblical assumption, that “The root of the problem is our amoral secular godless, Christless, Bibleless Constitution”; the spiritual “root of the problem” is SIN my friend – NOT the ever-shifting cultural/political climate in America – and its inveterate myriad manifestations of sinfulness, in the hearts of all humanity!

          I do hope the “good news” to which you’re referring is indeed adressing this critically relevant aspect of the issue; because my Bible informs me, that sin-is-still-sin – to an infinitely Holy God!

          • stan schmunk

            Good work but you missed my point. Science says that homosexuality is normal and that abortion is not taking a human life, etc. Of course it’s wrong but in the absence of any moral code in the Constitution ‘science’ triumphs. The Bible has NO standing in the Constitution and never did. BTW, I accepted Christ in 1949 and the Good News I share is in John 3:16-17. Today’s evangelicals have left all that behind in an attempt to get Trump to the presidency in an obscene hope that he’ll improve the morality of the country.

  • GeeJay

    First of all conservative doesn’t mean much these days. Second, there is only one kind of Christian, so to tack on conservative makes it seem there isn’t. Third, I care not a whit about “religious freedom”. Religion is man made. Christianity is God breathed and birthed. I have a freedom purchased for me by the death and resurrection of Jesus. My commission (and yours if you are truly born again) is not dependent on who wins an election. Granted it may one day cost us our lives but Christians in foreign countries have been paying the price for years. What makes us better than them? So buck up! Take hope, have courage and stop letting politicians Co opt you!

    • AJ

      “Religion is man made. Christianity is God breathed and birthed” Lol. *facepalm*

  • Jaq

    The ignorant fear-mongering of this post is unbelievable. Presidents do not “appoint” supreme court justices, they only nominate. Anyone the president nominates has to be confirmed by congress.
    Many Christians oppose laws that would imprison or put to death LGBT people. Clinton is hardly the only one who has criticized these types of laws.
    To be honest, majority of people are fed up with this type of article, we heard it all before: when Obama was re-elected, when Obama was elected, when Clinton was re-elected… seriously, my mom said people were telling her it was the end of American freedoms back when Kennedy was elected. Arguments based on warnings of doom are old, tired, and ineffectual. You all have been screaming wolf for decades and you still expect us to take you seriously?

    • davidrev17

      But Jaq, what did you expect from WE “right-wing fundamentalist, bible-thumping, flat-earth-believing intellectual simpletons,” of whom still might actually believe that “offshore drilling, is something the Marines do”?? We can’t help it! It comes with being, as you might call it: religious fanatics.

      And as for your clearly non-inclusive designation in describing WE mindless, bible-believing H@☆o sapiens – of whom are also devoted followers of Yeshua/Jesus of Nazareth, Israel’s only savior/redeemer of humanity – by using the word “you” & “Christians” synonymously, or interchangeably:

      Did “you,” by some unintelligent, unguided (chance) self-assemblage of chemistry and physics, “in chaotic billiard-ball motion” at that, somehow arrive here upon this biosphere, by unceremoniously (or accidentally) “popping-into existence, uncaused from literal NOthing?”

      And please know this: WE love even our most embittered enemies dearly; no matter how poorly that might’ve been demonstrated by those in our numbers, here in the U.S…in Jesus’ Holy name. And have a very blessed day!

      • DallasJim

        You said, “And please know this: WE love even our most embittered enemies dearly;”

        No, you don’t. Your rude response to Jaq tells me that quite clearly.

      • stan schmunk

        Trump supporters do NOT love their enemies.

        • Dean Bruckner

          May God’s blessings be on you today, and may God accomplish all his will in your life!

  • Jan Ballard Vaganis

    A grassroots write in for Ben Carson could be possible with Holy Spirit wind and fire!
    I am praying for a grassroots effort that won’t be viewed as a waste or a vote for Hillary.
    I can’t vote for either Mrs. Clinton or Mr. Trump. I know there are many in my position!

    • Jim Walker

      Just vote for the policies and it is very clear Trump has it.

      • stan schmunk

        Pleasee explain in detail.

    • best9rfan

      If anybody’s name is written in, it should be that of none other than Ted Cruz, the only former candidate worthy of the WH.
      Most people were too blind to know that.

      • stan schmunk

        I much prefer John Lasich…has a much better resume. Cruz is like Trump, an autocrat.

    • Nicole Muir

      Pray about to whom you should vote for. To simply not vote, because you don’t like either candidate is a disservice to the people of the United States of America. Soldiers gave their lives so that we could have freedom. The least we could do is vote and pray for our leaders whether or not we like them.

  • If Redeemed Say So

    The following article was written by the AFA. It further clarifies the direction one should take.

    Two Morally Deficient Candidates What Do We Do?
    It is regrettably true that the only two realistic choices we have for president of the United States are deeply flawed. One candidate helped the rapist of a 12-year-old girl beat the rap, and laughed at his ability to fool a polygraph to avoid justice for his crime. She, despite advertising herself as a champion of women, demonized and vilified the women who were victimized by her philandering husband.

    Despite advertising herself as a champion of children, she’s only a champion for children who are lucky enough to make it out of the womb. She still supports partial birth abortion, in which a baby just inches from life has a hole punched in the back of his head and has his brains sucked out of his skull. Someone who could defend that monstrous practice is a monster herself.

    The other candidate has been a moral reprobate through most of his adult life. The revelation of the language on that 2005 tape was not a surprise to anybody, which means the outrage over those comments is totally manufactured. Everybody knows this is what he has been and anybody who pretends otherwise is lying to us or to themselves.

    (It’s ironic that suddenly liberals have developed Victorian vapors over sexual indiscretion. Who would have thought that Hillary Clinton would revive the Moral Majority and become its new commandant? NBC, which now claims the self-righteous mantle of moral superiority, sat on that tape for 11 years. If they are so scandalized by demeaning and degrading talk about women, as they pretend to be today, why didn’t they do something to Trump at the time? The hypocrisy is nauseating.)

    New accusations against Trump from the recent past have surfaced in the last 24 hours. Who knows whether there is any truth to them? But the sad and dismal fact is that Trump’s behavior for the last 25 years makes the accusations believable. (Can you imagine anyone even thinking about accusing Billy Graham of this kind of behavior?)

    So let us stipulate that we have two morally reprehensible human beings running for the most powerful office in the world. Let’s stipulate that if we are going to use character as our measuring stick there is no way to prefer one of these candidates over the other.

    So what are we to do? How are Christians to process this admittedly wretched state of affairs? Oddly, the fact both candidates are so morally deficient simplifies rather than complicates the matter. If neither can be supported on the basis of character, and we have to choose between them, the only way to do it is on the basis of the policies they have pledged to pursue if they are elected.

    I understand, by the way, that the conscience of many Christians will not allow them to vote for either of these two candidates. I respect their right of conscience, and I would never try to talk a fellow believer into going against the dictates of his own conscience. No vote that is based on conscience is a “wasted” vote. That being said, the only realistic choice is the one between the two leading candidates. Either Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton will be the next president of the United States.

    Because the character issue is a wash, it frees us up to ask a simple question: will the policies of these candidates, if they are implemented, be good or bad for America? As Hillary Clinton pointed out in the last debate, either she or Trump will be setting policy for America not only for the next four to eight years but well beyond.

    It is imperative that we lift our eyes from the present tawdry mess – nobody can defend the character, conduct, or speech of either of these candidates – and lift our eyes to the future of America and the culture we are leaving behind for our children and grandchildren.

    So the question is this: whose policies offer the best hope for the future regarding the sanctity of human life, the Supreme Court, border security, and the threat of Islam? Most conservatives are going to find that comparison immensely clarifying.

    To put it another way, let’s imagine that the only two mechanics in town are drunken louts. You must choose one or the other or walk everywhere you go. You cannot in any conceivable world endorse the character of either. But one can fix your engine and the other one will damage it beyond repair. Which mechanic will you choose?

    Who knows whether Trump will keep the promises he has made? Conservatives may have to calibrate it this way: there is perhaps a tiny chance something good will come out of a Trump administration but there is zero chance that anything good will come out of another Clinton administration. Voting for a small chance is wiser than voting for no chance at all.

    And so many conservatives may have to put on a gas mask to vote for a flawed candidate who at least offers the prospect of a better America. But many will hold their noses and do it because there is a country to save for our children and grandchildren.

    • DallasJim

      Yet fact checkers all say that Hillary is the most honest. People who know her say the most important thing to know about her is that she is a midwestern Methodist. She has a lifelong record of working for the less fortunate and disenfranchised. That you judge her character as deficient tells me everything I need to know about you.

      • davidrev17

        “She [Mrs. Clinton] has a lifelong record of working for the less fortunate and disenfranchised”???

        Yet her blatant hypocrisy in this area is manifestly self-evident, due to her equally lifelong pursuit & acceptance of the literal genocidal slaughter of untold numbers of pre-born Homo sapiens’ – through and by the heinous methods employed during “abortion” – that she’s so (almost) indefatigably supported throughout most of her public career; so much so, that just like her idol, the infamous Margaret Sanger, Mrs. Clinton has been vigorously imposing (or exporting?) her own “philosophical anthropology” upon countless pregnant women she’s never even met – of whom are living in various lesser-developed, third world countries on planet earth. And that’s a fact!

        So perhaps you’d care to enlighten everyone on this blog, as to just how someone like Mrs. Clinton has apparently overlooked these millions of unborn Homo sapiens’ during her sacrificially selfless public service to mankind; when all one need do is consider just how much more less fortunate, defenseless, voiceles – thus disenfranchised – could a full-fledged, unborn male/female member of the species Homo sapiens possibly be, while safely nestled-and-nourishing in their own mother’s womb???

        The answer is obvious, to any thinking person too!

        • stan schmunk

          She’s overlooked them just like the GOP presidents and Congresses. I’m pro-life so tell me what should be done about it. Trump said if Roe v Wade was overturned the issue would just go back to the states. Is that enough for you?

  • Paige Brazell-Jackson

    These comments and this article are laughable. What a bunch of hypocrites. Wanting a country to follow one religion and forcing people to do what your religion believes is no different than what terrorist are killing people all over the world for. They want one religion and their laws to prevail. Dear Christians, Laws aren’t derived from the Bible. Secondly, when it comes to woman’s rights to have an abortion, perhaps woman will stop feeling the need to abort a child when men are held accountable for their half of the responsibility. When men are held more accountable for rape or sexual crimes that lead to unwanted pregnancy. What if these pregnant woman stopped having abortions and started leaving these unwanted babies on the doorstep of the men that got them pregnant? Why is it only the woman’s crime? She didn’t get pregnant alone! I’m so sick of righteous conservative Christians hypocrisy! You’re so pro life, yet you don’t mind if innocent refugee children die daily. You don’t mind judging homosexuals so harshly they commit suicide, you don’t mind letting children starve to death around the world and here in America. Jesus helped the unwanted, the neglected, the shunned, the sick, the hungry, the poor, the sinners and the helpless. Conservatives like to live in a bubble pointing blame and claiming everything they don’t like or agree with, or understand as being evil and un-American. Give me a break! Pull your head out of your bible for a minute and realize it isn’t all about you. Stop being so ridiculously hateful and harmful. You’re doing your religion a huge disservice by misusing it to punish others. That’s not your job according to your bible. Loving all of Gods creatures is what he expects of you. Not hate what you disagree with. Stand down on being so friggin judgmental. Teach love and kindness, not hate and fear!

    • davidrev17

      So dear friend: just what “religion” are you imposing upon we bible-bangin’ Christian hypocrites? Would that be your religion? Don’t you recognize that by comparing Bible-believing Christians in the United States – or anywhere else on planet earth, for that matter – to those radical Islamic “terrorists who are killing people all over the world, for THEIR beliefs,” is not only demonstrably wrong & unfactual, but very hateful and bigoted as well??

      I mean, just what NON-inclusive, un-PC religion, ideology, or philosophy of mankind’s devising, are you so viscerally (or almost hatefully) promoting, in that clearly intolerant emotional diatribe just leveled at we pea-brained followers of Jesus? I too, am sensing a serious manifestation of hypocrisy in your religious post, or personal opinion?

      And dear lady: to strangely suggest that “Laws aren’t derived from the Bible”; completely ignores, or overlooks the fact, that the very legal system upon which the West itself is/has been premised for almost the last three-millenia – was indeed “derived” from those dreaded “Ten Commandments” found in Exodus chapter 20 & Deuteronomy chapter 5.

      And I dare say, that you’ve conducted, and will continue to daily conduct your very life – by those same “laws written on your heart”…and it’s called human “conscience.” (Romans 2:14-15)

      But I know: that’s too Bible. May God bless you, and have a great day!

      • DallasJim

        Morality existed long before your bible. If our laws were based on religion, divorce would have made the top ten. Believe as you wish. Don’t try to make laws imposing your religious beliefs on people who believe differently, many of whom call themselves christian as well.

        I’ve said before that if the US became a theocracy tomorrow, the next day there would be civil war as the many denominations duked it out to be the only “true” christian church. That says little for religion.

        • davidrev17

          This may come as a shock to you, but your personal, subjective (meaning, “non-binding”) opinion, is nothing more than that. Thus it has no grounding whatsoever in objective and/or absolute (i.e., normative) truth claims; and indeed dies-a-thousand-logical-deaths, to the simplest inquiry known to academic philosophers (legal, moral etc.) – a.k.a. “The Grand Sez Who?” critique – first introduced in the 70’s by the late, brilliant Yale Law Professor, Arthur Leff.

          You’d do yourself a tremendous favor by seriously engaging its highly thought provocative, laser-like logical analysis in Law Review form; as well as studying the very lengthy (2005) Law Review article – “Grounding Normative Assertions: Arthur Leff’s Still Irrefutable , But Incomplete, ‘Sez Who?’ Critique” – written in honor of Mr. Leff’s initial contribution, by Academic Dean & Professor of Law at Washington and Lee University School of Law, Samuel W. Calhoun. I’ve actually taken my own advice on this too, devouring such insight several years ago (more than once) – and still retain Professor Calhoun’s profoundly compelling Law Review article in e-form, periodically using its content for reference material.

          And finally, I’ve been at this long enough to know if, or when someone possesses the rational/logical resources of which enable one to engage in fruitful, robust dialogue in this particular arena – as opposed to spouting-off emotionally-laden tirades – and that description simply doesn’t include you Mr. Dallas Jim. So thanks for sharing your personally myopic ideology, about religion in general though. Didn’t even register either!

          • DallasJim

            blah blah nonsense nonsense

      • stan schmunk

        Just not true at all. The Old Testament was confined to the Jews until the first century. It had nothing to do with Persia, Greece, Rome of any other country. Abraham didn’t live under the Law, which came 400+ years only. Exactly which laws were we under in 1789 and how did we observe them?

    • pete39

      So Jackson, what you’re saying is you’d rather have your head lopped off under izlam than allow Christians, Jews, Mormons, Buddha, Shinto, Quaker, agnosticism and atheists to practice what they like without State interference, right!

      Pull your head out and read the establishment clause of the First Amendment again.

      • Clara Mae Jones

        Shame on you and there is nothing Christian about this.

      • DallasJim

        You brought up Islam. In fact, you guys always bring up Islam because you can’t adequately defend your own religion. No one wants to stop you practicing your beliefs as long as you keep them inside your bubble. Your right to persecute others never existed but you got away with it for a long time. That time is done.

        Pull your head out and figure out where your rights begin and end, then stay out of my business.

        • pete39

          Jim,

          My religion needs NO defending!

          When your side keeps YOUR laws out of my religion we’ll be on more equal ground!

          The wording and intent of the First Amendment means government is required to “remain neutral” on religion . . .

          and “neutral” DOES NOT mean “hostile!”

          • DallasJim

            Then don’t be a discriminating bigot.

    • Charles Burge

      Nothing but straw-man arguments here.

    • Clara Mae Jones

      I completely agree with you Paige Brazell-Jackson. The post is laughable and disgusting. I do not knock anyone’s religious beliefs, but people cannot quote as well as live by part of the bible. That foolishness in that post is crazy we know what the bible says about gay people as well as the bible says we must love thy neighbor as thy self. God and each individual are the only two that has anything to do with their salvation and this applies to everyone. We are not to be the judge and jury and we were all created by God. The judging, the racism, prejudices, and hatred need to cease. Some people are so ignorant and they better stop playing with God and I do not care what the name is who you are worshipping because there is only one God. Many people just do not get it and all those people talking about the Revolution on Facebook and saying that cannot stop the Revolution are simply devil worshippers and Trump have incited his followers and he is the devil. This man is so full of hatred and bigotry, I actually heard this revolution crap from some of his supporters yesterday as he was campaigning yesterday and I heard him say yesterday that he hates those five boys that was accused of beating a raping a woman in Chicago, when they was completely cleared of all charges and they have a clean record.

    • Jim Walker

      “Dear Christians, Laws aren’t derived from the Bible. Secondly, when it comes to woman’s rights to have an abortion, perhaps woman will stop feeling the need to abort a child when men are held accountable for their half of the responsibility.”
      You are indeed daft. the laws of the world are from the Bible.
      a foetus is a human being and not a pimple. Abortion is the easy way out but its murder. If you want to get the men accountable, get them, but don’t blame the baby. To begin with, the woman shouldn’t have spread their legs to men too easily.

      • AJ

        “the laws of the world are from the Bible” – Then why is divorce, eating shellfish etc legal? What about non Christian nations? Their laws are from the bible as well? Geez! It is nothing but a book of fairy tales. You wanna believe in them, go for it, dont shove it down others’ throats.

      • DallasJim

        Cognitive dissonance is strong with you, Walker.

        • Jim Walker

          I was replying to someone who wrote those “quotes”. and I stand firm that Abortion is murder and the laws of the land were derived from the Bible.
          How can this be cognitive dissonance ?

          • Aadal

            I don’t know where to start.

            Laws are derived from the Constitution, which is expressly secular.

            Pretty much all societies on earth have laws that make murder, assault, theft etc illegal – whether they are Christian countries or not. Such laws are easily arrived at from a secular viewpoint, and a rational viewpoint… most people don’t want to be murdered, and so accept the infringement of their right to murder someone else. Same with theft, etc. See how this works?

          • Jim Walker

            Pretty much all laws on this earth comes from the Bible. It has been changed and added upon for thousands of years. Some with really bad effects.

          • DallasJim

            The Ten Commandments come from Hammurabi’s Code.

          • Jim Walker

            Which book do you read ? Can you share with us all.

          • DallasJim

            History books for starters.

          • Jim Walker

            hahahaaaa…

          • stan schmunk

            Nonsense. How can you say such a silly thing? Do you even know any world history?

          • Aadal

            This is nonsense. Every state on earth has laws about theft, murder, etc. This is the same whether the state has a judeo-christian history, or not (eg China, Japan, etc). If we take the 10 commandments as Gods Law, note how many of them ARE NOT enacted in US law. Conversely, look at how many laws we have – insider trading, trade sanctions, taffifs, immigration, tax laws, etc, etc. Bit of a stretch to say they come from the bible.

          • Jim Walker

            From your post, it’s obvious you don’t read the bible much.

          • stan schmunk

            Including slavery and segregation and stealing land from the Natives?

          • Jim Walker

            Which party loves slavery, Stan ? Democrats, isn’t it ? and stealing land from the Natives, so can you return the land your house sits on to the Indians ? Talking about cognitive dissonance..

          • stan schmunk

            The southern Dems were conservative Christians until they followed Goldwater into the right-wing of the GOP where they flourish today.

  • pete39

    The only real bias here is the LGBT community constantly targeting Christians, but our liberal,court system is too blind or stupid to see that.

    As to voting Trump, look at your Trump 2016 vote as Pence 2020 vote.

    This election has never been an R vs D contest. It has always been a U.S. Constitutional Republic vs socialism/communism Cuba/Venezuela contest.

    • Clara Mae Jones

      pete39, you are so wrong and shame on you.

  • Philmonomer

    Last week, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that pro-life pregnancy centers are required to promote abortion, meaning, that if a pregnant woman comes to them not knowing what to do about her pregnancy, along with counseling her about adoption or keeping her own baby, they must also refer her to a local abortion clinic.

    This is simply not true.

    • Clara Mae Jones

      Thank you for setting the record straight Philmonomer. Because I was going to do just that. There is so much in his post that is bogus and besides that he is writing for all those left-leaning folks is crazy. First of all way before President Obama and Hillary Clinton’s run for the presidency abortions have been taking place. A lot of what these individuals are accused of is simply not true. None of the foolishness on abortions is correct and slander is terrible. I have been around as well as being a veteran that keep up with politics and those of us cannot help but laugh at his rhetoric. There are many on Facebook stating to people who respond to some post as if they are incompetent and that they cannot stop the Revolution. This is very sad and what make it so bad is Donald Trump. He started this foolishness a while ago and he has incited such foolishness through some of his supporters. I just heard it among his supporters yesterday as he was campaigning if you can call it that. Everyone should vote regardless if they like the candidates or not. This was a right fought for and it is a disgrace to the people of this country and many of these very people are the ones to complain. While he is bashing Hillary Clinton, he should really be doing a lot of research. One could just pick up on the hate for Mrs. Clinton and it resonates quite clear. President George W. Bush is voting for Hillary Clinton and this is mentioned because he made a point of letting the world know that he was President Bush speech writer. We are not GOD and those of us that are Christians know what the word says; however, we have nothing to do with another person’s salvation which is between each individual and God. The bible tells us we must love thy neighbor as thy self. Therefor it is not our jobs to mistreat anyone and that include all people regardless of their sexual preference, race, color, creed (nationality). These people that he is speaking of to include Trump is foolish. He will drive this country into the ground and he is very hateful and jealous hearted. This man actually said on television that he hated the five boys that was accused of beating and raping a woman in Chicago. They were exonerated and records cleared as the real culprit turned himself in and the DNA was matched to the crime. Trump said he still hates them and this really is not surprising to me. He has so many people fooled but he is seriously bad news.

      • Frankie Melanson

        And you are a fool for believing what you see on TV. Trump cares about this country more than Hillary. I guess you want more Muslims and we will be living under Sharia law. There will be no Christianity under Hillary. Wake Up!

        • Aadal

          I’m not religious, but I couldn’t help but say “Oh jesus” when I read your rant. Sharia law? Come on. Surprised you didn’t mention that she’s the antichrist, and eats children.

  • Nicole Muir

    Thank you for writing this article. People need to be made aware of the policies each candidate stands for.

  • Nicole Muir

    To simply not vote, because you
    don’t like either candidate is a disservice to the people of the United
    States of America. Soldiers gave their lives so that we could have
    freedom. The least we could do is vote and pray for our leaders whether
    or not we like them.

  • stan schmunk

    And Trump, too.

  • bchristian85

    Uganda instituted the death penalty for homosexuals. Why is it so wrong that Hillary Clinton spoke out about it?

    • John R Potter

      47 of the 51 countries in Africa ban gays and same sex marriages you get jail time or death,,

    • Gregory Peterson

      “Conservative” American Evangelicals have the blood of African Gay people on their hands.

  • The New World Order is rising and Satan is roaring like a lion. Hillary has already been chosen to win the election by the same billionaires that chose Trump to run against her. This entire election is an utter illuminati illusion. The solution is to trust God, not our so-called elected leaders.

    • stan schmunk

      Total baloney. I’ve been hearing that nonsense since the late ’50s. Your last sentence is correct to a point.

  • Antodav

    Right so, this kind of “Christianity” is entirely defined by opposition to abortion and hatred of homosexuals, instead of, like, anything that Jesus actually taught.

    You know, I kind of *wish* that she would declare war on this kind of perverted and conspiracy d-driven form of “Christianity”, but I know she won’t.

    • Frankie Melanson

      You do not know your Bible.

      • Gregory Peterson

        “You do not know your Bible.”

        Of course that’s what the pro-slavery Evangelicals said about the radical abolitionists.

  • lupience

    I feel sad for those who have such a weak relationship with their God they need to have some religious dictator telling them how to think, what to feel.
    In my past, every time I felt threatened by a person or event in life it was because what I thought was faith in God was faith in humans or events.
    You see, these “leaders” of the church continue to dumb down God’s infinite possibilities to assemble an agenda. An agenda based upon instilling fear, hatred, and intolerance to manipulate, to assume power over others.
    This tactic is age old, and it is a man thing, not a God thing.

  • Connie Johnson

    And to vote for anybody else is to hand the election over to Hillary Clinton.

  • Carolyn Read

    The word Of God says he has entrusted the earth to man. So we are indeed accountable for what we do!!!!

    • Robyn Ryan

      After the flood, God demoted humans to equality with all things that fly, crawl, etc.
      I’m Pagan, and I know that

      • Val Pym

        Robyn you obviously know nothing about the Bible and are making up what you think it says.

  • war on religious Americans

    Where it’s pushing back Christians’ inappropriate privilege (“I approve of you, so I’ll let you patronize my business”), that sounds great. Where it’s infringing on their religious rights, you’ll have all the atheists on your side.

  • MK

    The religious belief that buying and selling other humans was changed. The religious belief that the world is the center of the universe was changed, Yes, enlightenment comes to those who can view an alternative to the status quo. Clinton’s statement was to a world wide conference embodying many different religions and cultures, including many religions that that have been subject to christian missionaries that were sent specifically to change people’s religious beliefs.

    • Robyn Ryan

      Women’s rights are human rights.

  • Aadal

    1) There is no God. Santa isn’t real either. Sorry to be the one to break this to you.
    2) Lets hope she does purge all this religious entitlement out of the system of Government. So we get a county official in Kentucky, refusing to do her job and sign marriage certificates for homosexuals (because of the bible) but she’s quite happy to sign them for divorced people, and be divorced herself. “What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate”.
    3) The Republican Party needs to get back to basics. Stop all the religious pandering that alienates many conservatives who don’t believe in creationism, science denial and the like. People can carry on praying to who they like at home, as they have done for centuries. Politics should be about policies. Lets get some good ones, and stop making life easy for the Democrats.

    • Val Pym

      There are Biblical grounds for divorce.

      • Aadal

        Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

        7 “Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”

        8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

        There are a lot of hypocrites who preach to others about homosexuality etc, whilst getting divorced for reasons that aren’t in the bible.

        Of course, you can prove just about anything in the bible. God commands man to commit massacres, execute children, etc, etc. And at some point (after blessing humans with “free will” he floods the earth and kills most of them for using their free will). Yet he’s apparently a loving god. With love like that, who needs hate?

        • Val Pym

          Marriage is supposed to reflect the relationship of God with His people, Christ and the Church e.g..Ephesians 5:32. If one partner continually and unrepentantly breaks the marriage covenant, then divorce is allowable Matthew 5:32. The one-flesh marriage covenant has been broken. That’s why God divorced Israel Jeremiah 3:8. After many years of bearing with Israel’s infidelity, God divorced her. Paul gives guidelines in 1 Corinthians 7 to Christians married to unbelievers who leave them. They are not ‘under bondage’ in such cases. Jesus spoke about divorce to Jews who wanted to know if they could divorce for [just] any reason. There were two schools of thought. One believed that the marriage covenant should be for life with some exceptions as per the OT Scriptures; others believed that a man could divorce his wife for any reason at all. Jesus came down firmly on the side of the former. .A lot of marriages are a travesty of God’s intent. I don’t believe He wants to lock people into a cruel unfaithful destructive relationship that traumatises the [usually wife] and the children. If husbands loved their wives as Christ loves the Church [sacrificially] there would be far fewer divorces. God hates the thing that causes divorce.

  • John k

    You lost me at “taxpayer-funded abortion”. Here’s the thing… Being anti-abortion is not a biblical view. It is a made-up talking point used to get Christians to vote Republican. Republicans are using your faith for their own agenda. If Christ were here right now, he would be beating people with whips and flipping over tables at every GOP outlet. The Bible is not against abortion. As a matter of fact, there is only one place in the Bible where abortion is mentioned. Matthew chapter 5. If a woman is raped or is unfaithful to her husband, he can take her to the temple and the priest will perform an abortion. Yes, it actually says that in the Bible. Doesn’t sound like God is too against abortion if he ordained people to do it on his behalf, does it? Also, the view that life begins at conception is not a Biblical view either. The Bible says in many verses that you do not have life nor a soul until you emerge from the womb and draw your first breath. When you take your first breath, that is when God breathes life and a soul into your body. There are other verses where a fetus is not considered a live being or considered as valuable as a live person, such as in Exodus 21. Abortion is a made-up issue to get people like you riled up against the people who actually do what Jesus called use to do: heal the sick, feed the hungry, help the needy. Instead, you are drawn to a political party that diametrically opposes these views. You are not a Christian. You are a Pharisee.

    • Panors77

      “the priest will perform an abortion??” You’re WAY off there. Nowhere in Matthew 5 is abortion mentioned. Jesus talks about divorce but there is nothing about abortion there. Bible teaches that God knew us IN the womb and before we were conceived. Typical liberal and marxist twisting of the scriptures.

      • DallasJim

        Research the Trial of Bitter Waters. It was given by the priests to pregnant women who were suspected of adultery. the idea was that if she was guilty she would lose the child.

        • John

          The Bible does not say the women were pregnant, and opinions are divided among scholars on whether or not they were pregnant. If we assume some were pregnant and a miscarriage was the result of the ritual if the woman was guilty, then there is another point to consider. Was it the water, dust, and ink that determined guilt or innocence and then carried out the penalty or was it God? There is nothing in the water, dust, and ink that could have caused a miscarriage, so we must concede that it was God, not man. Has God ever judged a people by taking the lives of their children? Of course. David’s and Bathsheba’s child and the children of Egypt come to mind. If you believe the Trial of Bitter Waters justifies mothers killing their unborn children, then you must also believe the Bible justifies mothers killing their already born children.

          • DallasJim

            God kills born children but their mothers can’t? I don’t know if the Bitter Waters included anything. It was a way of controlling people. Regardless, the idea behind it was abortion of an illegitimate child.

          • John

            OK, you have gone into loony land if you don’t see the difference between God taking a life and a mother taking a life. You think it was a way of controlling people, but that is just you opinion with no basis in the facts. Interesting that you didn’t address my other point. I guess you see the logical conclusion to your line of thinking and don’t really know how to respond.

          • John

            Um, no. Mother’s can’t kill their born children and shouldn’t kill their unborn children. Your assertion that it was “a way of controlling people” is completely speculative. There is no evidence in the text to support that argument. Again, there is no evidence that the women were pregnant, so how do you insert abortion into the text? The only thing we can conclude from the text is that women who were guilty became infertile. Please show me from the text that any of these women were pregnant. If you can’t, then stop making this ridiculous argument that God was performing abortions and therefore women should be able to.

          • DallasJim

            Just read it and tell me why they would give them the Bitter Waters if not because they had cheated and were suspected of carrying an illegitimate child.

          • John

            The whole point of the test is that the husband suspects his wife may have cheated but he has no evidence that she has. There is no mention that she is pregnant. Pregnancy is not a prerequisite to jealousy. I would bet most husbands at some point have the question of their wife’s faithfulness go through their mind whether they have ever been pregnant or not.

          • DallasJim

            I’m sure you have had those doubts. What with not being that smart and all. Regardless, the Bitter Waters were meant to abort a child if it was illegitimate. Even you can figure that out.

          • John

            I’m not going to keep on with you. Show me in the text where abortion is part of the Bitter Waters. You don’t want to because you know the response is going to expose your ignorance of the Hebrew language and culture. You are reading into the text something that is not there. If you aren’t willing to acknowledge you ignorance, there really isn’t any point arguing with you.

          • DallasJim

            Please don’t keep on with me. You’re wrong and you know you are. If you are incapable of absorbing text and context, you’ll never understand anything. Looks like that’s where you stand and choose to stay. Don’t put words in my mouth. God killed many children. I’m not sure he’s concerned about a few more. He doesn’t seem to care that his followers let children die every single day because they refuse to support them.

            You have no high ground here. Thinking you do makes you say stupid crap and start idiotic conversations. At least you’re home on a computer instead of interacting with the public personally. Stay in the basement.

          • John

            Do you realize how stupid you sound?

    • Val Pym

      What are you on about???? There is nothing about abortion in Matthew 5 or as far as I know anywhere else. You are way off beam.

    • When the Word Became Flesh God was an embryo!
      If God did not care about the unborn why did He become one? Yes Jesus is God the 2nd Person of the Trinity. So why would God the Father not care about killing of the unborn? God is God, He could have come down as
      a toddler, teenager or an adult, He chose to come down as an embryo instead.

      Jesus said in Mt 25:40:
      “Whatever you did for the least of my brethren, YOU DID IT TO ME.”

      The unborn, are a boy or girl from conception it’s in their DNA & is Jesus brethren just as much as born persons.

      Where does it say in the Bible Thou shall not kill except for those not yet born? It doesnt it says Thou Shall not kill.
      ~~~~
      A “baby” in the mother’s womb – Luke 1:41,44

      Elizabeth conceived (v24), and the life “in her womb” is called a “babe”
      or “baby” (Greek BREPHOS). This is the second-most-common New Testament
      word for a baby. It is always used, without exception, for that which
      is a human individual separate and distinct from its mother. Jesus, for
      example, is called a “babe” (BREPHOS) lying in a manger (Luke 2:12,16).
      (See Acts 7:19 and a concordance.)

      Hence, before he was born, John was a “baby” in his mother’s womb – a living human being.

      A woman conceived a “son” – Luke 1:36

      Again, the life conceived in Elizabeth’s womb, before it was born, is called “a son.”

      The word “son” (Greek HUIOS) also has various meanings. But in
      contexts that refer to the physical offspring of humans, the word always
      and without exception refers to that which is a human individual
      separate and distinct as an individual from its parents. It is the most
      common New Testament word for a “son” (see Matt. 1:21,23,25; Luke
      1:13,31; 2:7; etc.)

      Compare John’s conception to his birth:

      Luke 1:36 – Elizabeth “conceived a son.”

      Luke 1:57 – Elizabeth “brought forth a son.”

      These verses refer to the same mother and the same son in the same
      context. One verse describes the conception and the other describes the
      birth, but both call the child a “son.” Surely the word means the same
      in both cases. If John was a human being when he had been born, then he was a human being from the time of his conception.

      Sons and daughters begotten in the father’s likeness – Genesis 5:1-3

      Adam begot a son in his own likeness or image (v3). The
      term “beget” (Heb. YALAD) has various meanings, literal and figurative.
      When used for the father’s role in the literal, historical event of
      human procreation, it always refers to conception or fertilization since this is the only role the father has in the birth of the child.

      But that which is begotten is in the likeness or image of the father.
      So humans reproduce after their own kind, and what has been conceived
      is in the image of the father as a result of the conception and from the
      time of the conception. But what was the son in the image of? He was in
      the image of “man” (ADAM – vv. 1,2). This is the second-most-common
      word for man in the Old Testament, and is the same word used for man at
      creation in Gen. 1:26f. The son is in the image of “man” from conception
      on!

      Further, God made man and woman in the likeness of God (v1). Then the
      man begot sons and daughters in his image. Therefore the sons and
      daughters must be in the image of God just as the parents are, and this
      is the result of conception. Hence, that which man begets is itself man, in the image of God from conception….. gospelway(.)com

    • Monique Zorzella

      I’m sorry to say this to you, but there is no passage in The Bible that speaks of abortion–not in exodus 21 or in the sermon on the mount (Matt 5). There is no passage in the bible which says it is up to the mother to decide whether a child will be brought to life. The Bible says that God is responsible for forming the life of every child as they are in the womb.

      Jer 1:5 “Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified
      thee, ”

      Psa 139:13 “For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother’s womb.”

      Psa 139:16 “Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.”

      From these passages, we can take from it that it is not the mothers choice whether a child ought to be brought into this world, but Gods. When a person decides to abort a child they are interfering with Gods will, and this is a sin. Therefore, one can assume abortion for the sake of abortion is not permitted. The only circumstance that scholars have said abortion is appropriate is if the life of the mother is threatened.

      The most disturbing part of the whole pro-life vs pro-choice debate is that people want to decide what constitutes life. Pro-choice advocates like Hillary Clinton say that not even a child that is days away from their due date is a living thing despite the fact that a child at that stage recognizes the voice of its parents.

    • Liz Litts

      I don’t know which ‘Bible’ you are reading –Matthew 5 is the sermon on the Mount. You have no idea what the word of God says. You are deluded–or you are a TROLL. You never read the Bible a day in your life! Don’t try to mess with things you know nothing about. You better prove to me that you do all the things you accuse us of doing. Here is some real Bible for you
      “My frame was not hidden from you when I was being formed in secret and intricatly and couriously wrought in the depths of the earth
      Psalm 139:15

      ‘Before I formed you in the womb I knew and approved of you
      Jeremiah 1:5
      and please show me MS Bible scholar–where it says that malarky about taking your wife to the temple for an abortion.

  • Gregory Peterson

    It’s been over 50 years since the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed over the howls of “conservative” Evangelicals predicting that God would soon bring judgment down upon America because of the “unnatural sin of miscegenation.”

    Yet, there are still “conservative” Evangelical pastors and churches which won’t marry interracial couples.

    Discrimination against women is illegal, yet there are still churches and denominations which by refusing to ordain women, segregated them to inferior roles, and discriminate against them at every turn.

    What a bunch of sniveling, greedy, whining, cowardly, puerile moral and intellectual bankrupts.

    • Blue J

      Pedo

  • Gregory Peterson

    When it comes to abortion, “conservative” Christians don’t put their money where their mouth is. They’re not advocating for comprehensive sex ed. They’re not advocating for easily available and affordable, if not free, contraceptives. They aren’t working for affordable childcare, parental leave, affordable healthcare, and other job enhancements. They aren’t about to have their taxes raised to fight pockets of inequality that pushes women to choose abortion over bringing a child into our cruel and calloused society.

    Since you don’t put your money where your mouth is and oppose people who are working to reduce unplanned pregnancies, it would seem obvious that anti-abortion activism isn’t really about “unborn children.” but instead, about protecting unearned heterosexual male privilege and power at the expense of everyone else.

    • Robyn Ryan

      They are advocating for sperm worship. To pretend men are demigods.

      • Mr Cleats

        What a filthy mouth you have. You are not a lady.

        • danieltb

          With the way some of the culture has swung, I wouldn’t be surprised if, even with a lady’s name, they really weren’t a lady at all!

    • Carl Brumbaugh Kaspick

      Christians advocate abstenance from sex before and outside of marriage. Promiscuity leads to pregnancies. If one doesn’t want to get pregnant outside of marriage, then they should abstain from it. Sounds hard, difficult, but it does work,and is the only true safe method of birth control outside of marriage. God created sex for marriage between a man and a woman. It is Biblical if you weren’t aware of that. Read Scripture and find out the truth.

      • Gregory Peterson

        I’ve read the Bible, especially the anti-Gay clobber verses, I was raised in a family where the church was our second home. We even had the keys.

        “Christians advocate abstenance (sic) from sex before and outside of marriage.” Conservative Christians have always been comfortable with restricting marriage from certain minority adult couples, then calling them fornicators when they ignore that restriction. (There is a new movie coming out, “Loving,” which explores that. It’s about Richard and Mildred Loving, of “Loving v. Virginia” fame.)

        It’s not like conservative Evangelicals have much moral authority left anymore, what with their endless politics of privilege and resentment.

        It was easier for females to remain chaste until marriage until modern times. That’s because their marriages were arranged for them at an early age. Many marriages in the Bible would now be illegal.

        I have also studied sociology, and the condescending, patriarchal sexism of your comment is quite clear to me.

        As I said, conservatives don’t put their money where there mouth is when it comes to abortion, Controlling women by controlling their sexuality has always been the patriarchal ideal.

        If you were really concerned about abortion, you would be working for comprehensive sex ed in schools, reducing poverty and income inequality, making workplaces more family friendly with affordable childcare and paid family leave, making contraceptives easily available and affordable and so on.

        But, religious conservatives can’t be bothered, and often oppose such efforts. So all the rhetoric and such is exposed as just a smoke screen for what is really the motivation… tawdry dreams of a patriarchal status quo ante of unearned Christian heterosexual male privilege and power.

  • Gregory Peterson

    Apparently, Dr. Brown has substituted the addictive politics of privilege and resentment for heroin…which is also much more lucrative than using.

    What cognitive dissonance and deep seated angst are you still self medicating?

  • Gregory Peterson

    It’s interesting that you sneer at “Gay rights are human rights.” Demanding that a minority be silent and invisible, and thereby complicit in their own oppression has been done before. No wonder that you settled in a former Confederate state with a long history of doing just that.

  • Denise Anderson Brown

    The only real world, physical, tangible way to keep Hillary out of office is to vote for Trump. Conservative Christians who refuse to do so are helping Hillary be elected. Trump has shown himself to be supportive of Christians & the issues that matter to them, not to mention that he is surrounded by many good Christian leaders who are advising & influencing him. The choice is clear! Excellent article, but disappointed that you didn’t encourage your readers to vote Trump!

    • jane doe

      Donald Trump is anointed!

  • Robyn Ryan

    I am a human being. With Constitutional rights your religion cannot deny me.
    My European ancestors fled a land torn by religious wars. The Founding fathers were repelled by the notion that people should be compelled to bow to lords and kings – visible or invisible.
    Your ‘religious liberty’ does not give you dominion over me or the laws we live by.
    You want a theocracy? Move to Saudi Arabia.
    But stop grifting people by claiming their right to bully me is ‘god given.’

    • Mo86

      LOL! What on EARTH are you on about? Anything so say on this article?

    • Mr Cleats

      Childish rant.

      Adults don’t behave as you do.

    • John

      Troll… Not going to waste the time…

  • Mo86

    How I long for this evil, corrupt, criminal woman to be in jail where she belongs!

  • douglaswiebe

    If it wasn’t for the “conservative agenda” there wouldn’t have to be a fight for human rights. The government is to serve all people, not to bring the kingdom of God to earth, or a “Christian culture”… it is not by might or power! The church is a community in exile… and whichever person is elected, their weaknesses are as a prophetic voice to the church to examine what it truly means to be a follower of Jesus Christ. Where is the church fighting for the oppressed and marginalized?? If the church is negligent, then God will raise up those who will do so.

    • Val Pym

      The Church IS to bring the Kingdom of God to earth.

    • Carl Brumbaugh Kaspick

      Actually the church does more for the oppressed, the hungry, the destitute than all the other organizations worldwide combined. Did you realize that 93% of all charity organizations are Christian. There is absolutely no atheist organizations to help the poor and starving.

      You are right about the government is of all the people. The problem is Christians and their biblical beliefs are being shoved aside by those who prefer a more “tolerant” life. It isn’t enough that groups such as the LGBT have recently been granted rights that are actually above other citizens. It isn’t enough that they demand certain rights, but they want the government to force Christians, Jews, and even Muslims, all of which believe homosexuality is a sin, to shut up and go away. They want Christians and others to be forced to give up their beliefs for the sake of them. They claim tolerance for themselves, but have none for others. And this is just one of many issues like it. In California the state has created a law “forcing” Crisis Pregnancy Centers” (Christian organization promoting saving the lives of the unborn, to offer their clients places where they can get abortions or face fines and being shut down. Now that is considered freedom? Everyone can have freedom of speech, but let someone speak out against abortion, homosexuality and other issues, and they want to create laws declaring that their religious beliefs are “intolerant” and should be made illegal. Is that the America you want?

  • peanut

    Well then she’s gong to have a war. BRING IT KILLARY

  • pbt777

    Bravo! Mr. Brown. As I said in the comments of a more recent article of yours that this article was linked, a vote for Trump is not necessarily believing that he is a true Christian or that he will be a good president, it is a vote against the establishment, both Democrat and Republican, who really have the same agenda. That agenda is globalism, which is going to lead us to the prophesied one world government system that is already governing. The elite of the world (those in the shadows running the system) need to break down the United States in order to get what they want. And don’t let them kid you that it is for all our benefit. It is beneficial to them, and them only!! We are just pawns to them, whose only value to them is as slaves. I’ll give you all a guess at who is at their helm??

    • EdmundBurke

      Hillary Clinton – “My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders, sometime in the future.”

      said to investors in a paid speech she gave to Brazilian Banco Itau in 2013.

      XXII Congress of the Socialist International, São Paulo
      Declaration of Sao Paolo – 27-29 OCTOBER 2003

      11. The Socialist International views regional integration as a key instrument to promote sustainable development, combine social cohesion with competitiveness and shape a better architecture of international relations. As the experience of the European Union indicates, regional integration cannot be limited simply to free trade. It must integrate political, social, economic and environmental dimensions, so that open inter-regionalism can become a powerful tool for achieving better global governance. In this context, the SI fully supports the efforts to promote integration in Latin America in all the referred dimensions, also as an instrument to consolidate democracy and overcome conflict.

      12. Humanity has reached a crossroads. The present world order, marked by unilateralism, disrespect for human rights, social injustice and unequal development is reaching its limit. Building a New World Order based on multilateralism, democracy, respect for human rights and sustainable development is therefore necessary and increasingly demanded by citizens of nations both women and men, throughout both the North and South.

    • wbischo

      Trump definitely is not planning to be a part of our Democracy, or part of any government. He brags that he has not read the Constitution. He plans to lead our MILITARY , and leave the rest to the scholarly Mr Pence.THERE IS NO ESTABLISGMENT, we have open elections every two years. THE CURRENT REPUBLICAN CONGRESS HAS REFUSED TO HONOR THE CURRENT ELECTED PRESIDENT BUT HOPEFULLY THEY WILL LOSE THEIR JOBS FOR DOING SO . UF THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT, THIS COUNTRY WILL BE TRUMPS DICTATOTSHIP. THIS ESTABLISHED GOVERNMENT WORKED WELL UNTIL SEGMENTS WANTED TO CHANGE IT AND REPEAL OUR CURRENT LAWS, TO ALLOW RACISM, ONE RELIGION, AND NO EQUAL RIGHTS, AND THE WEALTHY RULE THE UNEDUCATED POOR..

  • Nelson Banuchi

    “I do understand that many of you cannot find it in yourself to vote for Donald Trump, but whatever you do, do not vote for Hillary Clinton, and please encourage your conservative Christian friends not to vote for her either.”

    I’m glad you ended this article on the above note. For a second there, I thought you were going to “demand” that Christians *must* vote for Trump, along with the idiotic argument going around that, even if you don’t vote for Hillary, if you don’t vote for Trump but for another candidate, you’re assuring Hillary to win and, therefore, are guilty of promoting abortion.

    I’ll be honest, Dr. Brown, I had thought you would be above the fray and, although continuing to write articles on the present state of affairs in America with all its crudity and divisiveness (which you should do), avoid publicly taking sides and reveal for whom you are voting.

    As it is, having done so, from my perspective, you’ve stained your ministry of preaching Christ with political bias, especially for a candidate who gives evidence of being a follower of Christ only ever so badly mouthing here and there some obscure profession of religious faith. Should he become President (which I don’t think he will be) and shame the office (which I’m sure he’d do if he were President), your ministry would also bear that shame.

    I’m not saying don’t vote; I’m saying, leave your voting preference for the ballot box, at least, until after the election is over. Speak boldly against this present evil culture, if need be, yes; present the Gospel, yes.

    I have not seen such outspoken divisiveness within the Christian community in decades. Ministries appear seeking to directly influence one’s decision in voting by invoking divine judgments against those not voting for Trump (whether or not they are voting for Hillary or another candidate). They are walking a thin line between general encouragements to do what the Christian conscience ought to convict of and violating that conscience.

    For example, I agree that on the basis of her pro-choice stance alone, we should refrain voting for Hillary. However, I disagree that a demand should be made to vote for Trump or, if not, they are promoting abortion, going against God’s will, or are in danger of divine judgment. Christians, on both sides of the aisle, may be acting on self-righteous impulses.

    Maybe I’m wrong, but I feel we need to come together as one and promote the Gospel, not the vote, that the world may believe in Jesus (John 17:20-21).

    • spadestick

      trollin.. trollin… trollin…

    • peter quinn

      Vote for Trump! No other option. Unless of course you’re okay with corruption, scandals, unlimited abortions funded by our tax dollars. Kool aid anyone? SMH

    • wbischo

      HILLARY is Pro choice, because our Constitution has given that right to women. ANY AND “ALL” PRESIDENTS ARE REQUIRED TO SWEAR THEY WILL UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION. That right was put into the Constitution by a long Democratic process, and a final majority vote of all our citizens. PRO CHOICE IS NOT THE SAME AS PRO ABORTION!. EVEN GOD GAVE US ALL THE “GIFT” OF FREE WILL. Who are you to take it away at your will or choice? Do you want a President who
      Will not USE the Constitution OR a President who will UPHOLD it, UNTIL “YOU” GET A MAJORITY OF CITIZENS TO CHANGE IT. A President alone can not do that, no matter what Trump says.

      • Carl Brumbaugh Kaspick

        Because the Word of God is a higher authority than even the Constitution of the U.S. God has said, “You shall not murder”, yet the murder of millions of unborn children have been committed under the guise of the Constitution. So what you are saying is that because of “choice”, murder of the unborn is a good thing, a great choice. Really?

        • jane doe

          The Pope is a sadist false prophet in a nutshell

  • kodili

    So instead we should vote for a man that has expressed an innate lack of Christ like love for people who are not of the same race as him. That has shown an utter disregard for women? The bible says,test the spirit. Test the spirit from which every prophetic word comes from. So that you are not lead a stray. For HE has not given us a spirit of fear but of love. Are we willing to sacrifice the safety and liberty of our neighbors who are pigmented for liberty of worship. Jesus Christ did not promise us freedom from persecution in worshipping Him. Rather, He informed us that persecution should be anticipated. So test the spirit. We can not as Christians fear persecution rather we should anticipate and ready ourselves for it. We can not justify a lack of decency,love, acceptance and sexual chastity on the basis of freedom of worship. Jesus Christ was persecuted. Please,test the spirit from which words are uttered. Pray about everything you write.Even if it seems right to you. So you will be certain it is right with God.

    • spadestick

      call out the troll…

    • Budd Orfington

      What’s your other option? Vote for a woman who openly supports murder in the form of abortion? Trump is far from perfect and definitely wasn’t my first choice, but he at least claims to value the sanctity of human life. Voting for her is endorsing murder. That blood will be on your hands but not on mine.

  • Alex

    So following your rationale, African blood that has been mistreated or killed for being gay would be in your hands. You seem to be bringing judgment upon yourself.

  • John

    Dr. Brown, It’s obvious your words have cut the trolls deeply. They have gone nuts. Such fragile things they are.

    • spadestick

      These paid shills are EVERYWHERE. 0.1% of the entire population is a lot, especially behind keyboards #HillBullies

  • spadestick

    They ARE FLIPPING THE VOTES! Get angry and demand action!

  • sheepdog writer

    You got to ignore the trolls and the shills. It is easy to spot them once they start spewing anti-christian lies: false accusatory racial attacks, trumped up false charges of bigotry, they say conspiracy theorist when they have nothing better to say.

    • cmm837

      Just because people disagree with someone doesn’t make them a troll especially if they disagree in an intellectual and rational way.

  • tarvana

    Not voting for Trump is the same as voting for Hillary.

  • wbischo

    Using your faith to cause fear is not what Christianity is about. Hillary is a strong Christisn and lives what she believes. She will lead this country by the laws of our CONSTITUTION, WHICH REQUIRES THAT ALL CITIZENS BE ALLOWED TO LIVE THEIR RELIGIONS IN THIS COUNTRY. THAT IS WHY THIS NATION WAS FOUNDED. YOU expect not to be crushed nor mistreated because of your religion, and that is true of ALL PEOPLE OF ALL RELIGIONS. THERE ARE CITIZENS IF MANY FAITHS IN ALL POLITICAL PARTIES. Do not be deceived by Non Christians in the Republican Party, as those exist there, as well as among all political beliefs. The most important word in our Democracy is FREEDOM. We have lived under the Constitution for 300 years and all have followed our religions. Trump is the FIRST candidate who has refused to even READ our Constitution. I doubt he has seen a Bible. He is Mr. Two Corrinthians.

    • peter quinn

      What country have you been in? Constitution? She has already stated that the 1st 2nd and 14th need to be changed. She has said Christians need to change our beliefs. She is for unlimited abortions up to viability outside the womb in a barbaric procedure of partial birth abortion. What have you been drinking? SMH!

      • wbischo

        Change your beliefs that the Bible should be our Constitution, and a few other unrealistic beliefs about government? Of course she did. . Some Amendments “should” be written in more clear language, so there will be less controversy . That process would take years to be done. If you listen to her, she would never hurt any group of our citizens, but If you listen to Trump, you will hear that he will NOT USE THE CONSTITUTION AT ALL.

    • Budd Orfington

      Wow..that’s some of the most nonsensical garbage spouted by a “Christian” I’ve ever had the displeasure of reading. Hillary is a strong Christian? Since when do “strong Christians” support murder? For example, allowing and supporting abortion? Did you forget that God is kindof against that? You’re either one of those nitwits who doesn’t believe a fetus is actually a human being or you’re one of those nitwits who cherrypicks the Bible to suit himself. I’m only making an assumption that you claim the name of Christ and if that’s the case, perhaps you can enlighten me as to how any thinking Christian can support someone who favors ripping a baby out of its mother and murdering it. Also, just for clarity’s sake, we DO NOT LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY. This is a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. It helps to actually read the document you’re “defending” before you try to defend it.

  • wbischo

    How can people who tell lies like ” Hillary will declare war on Chrisrions” call themselves Christians or evangelicals?”.Hillary is a true Chistian, who lives her faith
    A woman who has been LIED ABOUT BY YOU FAKE CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVES FOR DECADES just to preserve your money from equal taxation and greedy agenda.

  • Sarah

    How much is Lord Cheeto paying you to write such a silly article??? What about Lord Don Cheeto war on Muslims, on Hispanics, on Blacks, on women, on veterans, on the Pope and on your stupid self?? You are BLACK…do you think you are exempt from Lord Trump’s discrimination? Go sit down!! or get your dumb A$$ in the basket of deplorables!!

  • Derek Howden

    Isn’t the idea that God appoints the leaders? True they are the leader that reflect the people and the two people that are representing America reveal it’s values and agenda’s. When someone, especially those claiming to be Light, points the finger and say’s “there is your enemy….” that person has no idea of what or who is the real enemy and it’s clear by how attached they are to the agenda’s of the world. The world is the same as it was in Jesus’s time and Jesus walked without resistance to the world, He never defended his opinion and thrust his point of view and though the world wanted to kill him, still he did not resist and offer defence or opinion. The only warning of deception that Jesus gave was of teachers in the church and there are a lot of teachers with opinions and resistance to the world as it unfolds. Do not worry about sin, death, the world or the devil because Jesus has overcome them all. There is a lot of worrying going on in this kind of Christian rhetoric.

  • Kevin in Mississippi

    This diatribe would likely be better received if it had been written by a woman of childbearing age.

  • Brian Hager

    Blah, blah, blah… I remember all too well growing up being “attacked” for being a Catholic, because that automatically meant I didn’t read the Bible and worshiped Mary. You are entitled to your opinion and I am free to totally IGNORE you.

    • Ricardo Hotatio

      Ignorance is not a bliss, I know that as a former Catholic.

  • cmm837

    This article is based on fear mongering and lies.
    I read the California law (state law, not a federal law) and no where does it say that the patient “must be referred to an abortion clinic.” You, Michael Brown are a LIAR! What does your Christian faith say about spewing such lies? Shame on you!

  • Shannon Ediger

    To follow Christ and the almighty Lord- means we( the people) do not get to judge- we are called to love unconditionally, support those in need- not call them out or condemn them. Christ died rather than call out his accusers. We could learn something there.
    Our reward as Christians is not on earth. We do not need to seek to condemn others to get our place in heaven, God welcomes those who choose to act like his son, and follow his examples of peace, love, caring- feed the hungry, clothe the naked, take in the widowed and fatherless. No where does Christ or the words of the Lord say “except in the case of” We are called as children of Yahweh/ God/ Father / Holy Spirit and followers of his almighty son to LOVE. Laws simply support people rights to make their own choices about their lives. This is what Christ died for. At the time of his life, the laws did not allow for sinners to participate, or contribute to the whole. Christ brought them in and challenged the authority to hear their voices, all the voices. We are called to hear and love unconditionally. Be conquers all, fear and hate lose. Please choose love and kindness, show Christ to the world, don’t just talk about it.

  • Susan

    Thank you for warning, and now, a few months later, you have a new pro life presidency. That’s a miracle! and I couldn’t be happier. Jesus said we must be the salt of the earth and a light. Men have not trodden down the salt or light in America, although even now the previous administration is fiercely fighting, but I believe these are only death throes and the light and dawn of a new day will arise on America. I prayed for your election even though I am a Canadian. God is faithful. The 2016 presidential election went on into the wee hours of the morning and I fell asleep but I woke up just at the point where the news announcer first announced that Donald Trump would be the 45th president of the United States. This was a victory for us all. Religious freedom was perilously at stake, but God! God heard the faithful prayers of his people and this was a powerful deliverance. God bless America. The light is still shining and there is lots of work to be done in the Name of Jesus. God gave us all another chance. A reprieve to work and share the gospel world wide. Praise His Name! He’s coming soon!

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