Why Didn’t God Heal Nabeel Qureshi?

In this Sept. 22, 2016, screengrab from video, Nabeel Qureshi gives an update on his condition in one of his vlogs.

By Frank Turek Published on September 18, 2017

How does a man facing his own premature death exude an uplifting combination of grace, love and truth? My friend Nabeel Qureshi, who has done that for more than a year, died at age 34 on Saturday. In case you don’t know, Nabeel was a former devout Muslim who became a powerful defender of Christianity after a seven-year process of evaluating the evidence for Christianity with his friend David Wood. His first book, Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus is an international best seller.

Since being diagnosed with stage four stomach cancer last year, Nabeel has shared his thoughts, concerns and prayers through 43 video blogs on his YouTube channel. His last video, recorded from his hospital bed just seven days before his death, is a request for us to use his work and example to love others to the truth.

As you will see in his videos, Nabeel exhibited the love of Christ to the end. He never wavered in his confidence that God could heal him, but recognized that He might not. Nabeel understood that we live in a fallen world, and that God doesn’t promise any of us a long, trouble free life. In fact, Jesus promised more of the opposite. He said that we “will have trouble in this world, but take heart, I’ve overcome the world.”

Nevertheless, while it seems insensitive to ask this while we grieve, people are wondering why didn’t God heal Nabeel. After all, he was a brilliant and charismatic young man taken away from his wife Michelle and daughter Ayah, and the rest of us, far too early. Nabeel had so much more to give to his family and the Kingdom of God that his death seems senseless.

So why didn’t God heal Nabeel?

Tough Questions

Is it because an evil, such as a premature death, proves that there is no God? No, because evil wouldn’t exist unless Good existed, and Good wouldn’t exist unless God existed. Evil doesn’t exist on its own. It only exists as a lack in a good thing. Like cancer. So when we complain about evil we’re actually presupposing Good. An objective standard of Good is a standard that is beyond mere human opinion. That can only be God’s nature. So evil may prove there’s a devil out there, but it can’t disprove God. Instead, evil boomerangs back to show that God actually does exist.

Is it because the Muslim God is the true God, and He punished Nabeel for leaving Him? No, there’s excellent evidence for the Christian view of God (see Nabeel’s book No God but One). Moreover, Muslims who suggest this should be asked, “Why did your God wait until Nabeel had written three best-selling books, made hundreds of hours of videos, and helped bring hundreds of Muslims to Christ? Is his timing off?” Not only that, Nabeel’s work will continue to bring people to Christ, probably in an accelerated manner after his passing.

So why didn’t God heal Nabeel? What purpose could God have for allowing Nabeel to die?

Some might suggest that people like Nabeel who experience tragedy must be worse sinners than others. Jesus refuted that kind of shallow speculation directly in Luke 13, when he said, “I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.” Indeed, we are all sinners who will perish and we need to repent before it’s too late.

Is it because Nabeel didn’t have enough “faith”? People who claim such nonsense don’t know Nabeel or correct theology. Nabeel’s trust in Christ was deep and unwavering. But the larger point is that faith doesn’t guarantee good health and wealth as “Word of Faith” preachers assert. In fact, their self-serving theology can be refuted by one simple observation: Jesus and the apostles weren’t healthy and wealthy. In fact, they suffered and died for their beliefs. Don’t tell me they didn’t have enough faith!

The Ripple Effect

So why didn’t God heal Nabeel? What purpose could God have for allowing Nabeel to die? In answering that question, we need to admit that there can be no ultimate purpose to Nabeel’s death (or any event) if there is no purpose to life. But since God does exist, and the purpose of life is to be reconciled with Him though His son, Jesus, then even tragedies can help achieve that purpose. Perhaps more people will come to know Christ because of Nabeel’s death. It’s impossible for us to know the extent of that right now, but it’s not impossible for God.

We can’t see it fully because every event, good and bad, ripples forward into the future to touch countless other events and people. This ripple effect is also known as the butterfly effect. The idea is that a butterfly flapping its wings in South Africa, for example, could ultimately bring rain to a drought stricken portion of the United States. We can’t trace all of those ripples, but an all powerful God who is outside of time can. In fact, there have been billions of events in history, both good and bad, that helped make you who you are and helped put you where you are.

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So we don’t know why God didn’t heal Nabeel, but we know why we don’t know. We’re finite and God is infinite. The good news is God’s character and power guarantees that He will bring good from evil “to those that love Him and are called according to His purpose” (Rom. 8:28). That may happen later in this life. It certainly will spill over into eternal life.

The ripple effect led Jacques Marie Louis Monsabré, a former pastor at Notre Dame in Paris, to trust God even when he couldn’t see any good coming from evil. He said: “If God would concede me His omnipotence for 24 hours, you would see how many changes I would make in the world. But if He gave me His wisdom too, I would leave things as they are.”

Indeed, God will redeem Nabeel’s death for good like he redeemed Nabeel himself. But while Nabeel is now with the Lord, Michele and Ayah remain with us. As Nabeel asked in one of his final videos, please pray for them as well as Nabeel’s loving parents. And If you can help Michele and Ayah financially, would you please do so here?

While we grieve let us be thankful for Nabeel’s eternally significant life. He did more for the Kingdom of God in 34 years than ten thousand people do in 80. And the ripples he created — waves really — will help carry people into Heaven for generations. Blessings to you Brother. See you on the other side.

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  • Rick Bonifield

    Hi Frank,

    Thank you for your thoughts about Nabeel and writing this article. I did not have the honor of personally meeting Nabeel, but I did hear him speak a few years ago at the National Christian Conference of Apologetics in North Carolina. I also read one of his books, “Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus.” I was sickened and heartbroken to hear about his passing.

    I’m a Husband of a wonderful Christian woman (like Nabeel), Father of a 1 1/2 year old daughter (Like Nabeel), and Minister in the Kingdom (Like Nabeel). I’m also only a few years younger than him. When I first heard the news about his passing I felt a strike of conviction in my conscience, “This could have been me. This may be me.” As I question God’s providence in permitting this suffering, I myself have already been impacted by the conviction of the H.S. in the examination of my own life and sin. I’ve began to reprioritize my loyalties in ministry and want to be intentional out making the most of my life. My mind has been flooded with thoughts of relationships that need restored, personal sins that need challenged, and a renewed perspective on life. I’ve seriously reconsidered the well-being of my family and whether or not I’ve done enough to provide and protect them or whether or not I’m being the man of God they need me to be.

    Through all of these thoughts, the word of God has continued to echo in my mind “life is a vapor” and “fear God and keep His commands.” I am utterly and intentionally thankful for the Lord granting me the breathe of life. I feel ashamed of my sense of entitlement to life and lack of thanksgiving every “good and perfect gift from God above.” More than anything, I want to be present with the Lord in my life and death. I want to be a faithful servant. The testimony of his death has already began to ripple its way through my mind and heart.

    I can only imagine the thousands of Christians who’ve felt the same convictions (not to mention the thousands who have been, are being, and will be impacted by Nabeel’s evangelism, testimony, teachings, and apologetics ministry). Thank you Nabeel for your courageous ministry, love, heart, soul, and mind.

    Rick Bonifield

    • SAMTHECAT

      Thank you Rick and Frank for your thoughts. I had never met or heard Nabeel and ran across one of his videos just before he entered in Jesus Presence. I wept. Truly the Holy Spirit is convicting many of us of our lives and choices, using the testimony of this vibrant young man who allowed himself to be a burning ember for Christ to draw us into a similar intense relationship with Jesus. He is coming soon! May we be found to be as in love with Jesus as was Nabeel. As the Psalmist says: He makes His ministers flames of fire (Psalm 104:4).

  • Kathryn Rose MacDonald

    I am so very sorry for the loss of your friend. It is difficult to lose a loved one, even when we know how the story ends. We want them here with us and we feel somewhat lessened by their absence. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and feelings about your friend and his faith walk.

  • A great mind has passed into the greatest Kingdom of all! Praise God!

  • Howard Rosenbaum

    Is it not w/in the realm of possibility that in the face of tragic loss this timeworn question maybe the wrong one being asked ? Why must so many sincere, faithful & even intellectually honest believers presume that God somehow looked the other way when a faithful & fruitful follower makes a painful & premature exit from a life well lived ?
    It’s rarely if ever asked “Why didn’t God save him from a life of self abuse & depravity ?” when a notable sinner dies in his sins.
    Is there a double standard among the theologically perplexed going on here? Why is it that a significant number of believers treat the healing of their bodies as though it were something only to be hoped for while the saving of their souls is an accomplished deed to be fully realized as they pass through those “pearly gates? No , it’s not a “lack of faith” as Mr Turek suggests some may say. Nor is it a reflection upon Mr Qureshi’s faith in God’s love & faithfulness . It’s so simple that many in the face of seemingly inexplainable & onerous events wind up complicating it. The challenge for many of us who subscribe to a particular view regarding faith for healing ,especially in the face of tragedy is having to admit to being wrong about it. We’d almost rather not know the answer than have to look back w/regret.
    The Christian life is designed to be a life of grace. It’s a life from which the “hand off faith” reaches into this amazing awe inspiring grace & receives from that grace what it was believing for. God will never love us any more than he already does because He can’t love us any less than He already does. Yet, it is not Gods love for the” saint & sinner”alike that effects the change we are hoping for. Healing not excluded. I am saved from the wrath of God towards sin not because of anything other than the simple but profound act of receiving it by faith from this all sufficient grace of God. I grieve for Nabeels’s family’s loss. This may be difficult to grasp, but except for the joy that a child has been united w/his Heavenly Father, it is bitter sweet. For how much more must the Master “weep” for the untimely removal of this profitable servant, husband, father & friend …?

    • lisa pasquier

      Well said Sir.

  • Haddasa

    I really needed to read this article. I was questioning G-d as well. Im happy that Nabeel is now in His arms. I want to help be a financial blessing to his wife and daughter- thanks for the site to do so

  • DianaRGordon

    Thank you Frank for your thoughts. It is blessing that people like you are writing so positively and lovingly. Although I had never met Nabeel in person, I met him through his books and I loved him dearly. I know I will meet him on the other side and as a 70 year old I guess that will be before many others who are currently grieving with Michelle and his parents and sister; and sharing their sorrows. We all wonder why, but as it says in Isaiah 55 v 8/9 ” For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord. As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts higher than your thoughts”. I will, like many others continue to pray for Michelle and Ayah and Nabeel’s parents and sister whom he loved so much.

    • Tamara Laguna Acosta

      Amen, well said, Amen! Michelle, Ayah I love you. Mom, dad, sister…my hearts grieves with you as well.

  • tz1

    There is always tragedy and we ask why the righteous die early.

    We had no power over his death.

    Conversely, we had power over Terri Schiavo’s death. And Abortion. I can only find Irony when people ask God over the untimely and unpreventable death of a particular innocent person among wholesale slaughter which you do have some influence.

    Planned Parenthood is still federally funded. Until that stops, I wouldn’t ask God about justice.

  • Lynda Singh

    So saddened by Nabeel’s passing, but so grateful to get a glimpse of a life lived to glorify Jesus Christ our Lord. He ran his race with such excellence even if until the very end. He was such an inspiration and trillions of every faith will come to the knowledge of Christ because of Nabeel.

  • Jay Howard

    In 1824 there was a large revival in Palmyra, NY, where a few hundred people became Christians in this small farming community. Wes Walters in his booklet “New Light on Mormon Origins” mentioned a 19 year old girl, who had been a Christian for only 5 weeks, died with a great deal of Peace and Joy. Her death spurred on the revival and helped many young people grow in their faith. The idea that even in death, a Christian can help lead and strengthen others’ faith has been well documented in revival history. A person’s death can be very important to others and cause them to grow in their Christian faith. This idea can always be considered when even the youngest of Christians die.

  • ” faith doesn’t guarantee good health and wealth as “Word of Faith” preachers assert”

    Straw man, Frank. I have never heard any of the faith preachers claim that faith guarantees good health or wealth.

    • WomaninCT

      I guess you have not heard of prosperity preachers? Joel Osteen is probably the most well known and it has earned him a mega church in Texas with a congregation of 40,000 strong. Perhaps you’ve seem him in the news after hurricane Harvey?

      • Unlike you, I have actually LISTENED TO what you’re calling “prosperity teachers.” I know what they teach. And what I’m telling you, not based on ignorance but based on actual evaluation of their instruction, is that they don’t claim that anybody is guaranteed good health or wealth.

        In general, what they teach is that God is good, and intends good towards us. If that’s heresy, then call me a heretic.

        • WomaninCT

          Not sure how you’ve come to conclusions about what I have or have not listened to and what I do or don’t know about the Christian God when you have no idea who I am. I think what has escaped you are the subtleties of language. The author isn’t talking in legal jargon as far as warranties and guarantees. The author is stating that by presenting imbalanced messages that focus on certain parts of God’s word about prosperity leads people to believe their faith and obedience gains them prosperity blessings. You can disagree but there is enough written on this subject to confirm its existence.

          • I know Frank Turek personally. I know what language he’s using and what he means by it. He taught me himself. He is not talking about imbalanced messages; he said “guarantee,” and he means exactly what he says.

            I inferred that you don’t know what “prosperity teachers” actually say when you called them “prosperity teachers,” which is a common dismissal but not an accurate description, and when mentioned the teacher most commonly denigrated by conservative Protestants. I’ve heard literally hundreds of denunciations by folks like you, and none of you have spent any more time understanding these teachers than to read unfair summaries by the likes of John MacArthur or view cherry-picked videos patching together clips yanked out of context. I always know I’ve hit the mark when the response to my comments is “You don’t know me.”

            I never said anything about how well you know God unless you happen to think that God is not good. Do you?

            Regarding imbalanced messages, I don’t know any teacher who teaches everything that can be said about God either in one sermon or in many. Every teacher has a focus reflecting how God has revealed Himself to that teacher. Some focus more heavily on marital health, some on overcoming addictions, some on the salvation message, some on healing, and so forth. If imbalance is sin then all teachers are guilty.

            If you folks would stop condemning your brothers in a manner that Jesus, Paul, and James all explicitly forbade and instead simply focus on what you do best with what God has revealed to you, the body of Christ would be much better off. Joel Osteen is not your servant, he is God’s servant, and God will judge him according to what he has done. Judging Joel Osteen is not your job, nor is it mine.

            And, no, those passages about false teachers in the Pastoral Epistles do NOT endorse ordinary believers getting on the Internet and broadcasting condemnation against other Christians over disagreements in theology or emphasis. I can’t even begin to imagine how “false teachers will come” justifies “therefore, go broadcast all over the Internet who you think might be one.” That’s just, plain awful hermeneutics.

          • WomaninCT

            You’ve exposed yourself as someone who wildly jumps to conclusions on little to no information. It would be foolish of me to attempt to debate with you any further. Suffice to say I was an regular viewer of Joel’s for quite some time. I stopped watching because my own impression was he delivered an imbalanced message.

  • Linda

    Thank you. I think of the story Jesus told in Luke 16, of the poor man Lazarus in paradise safe in the bosom of Abraham, while the rich man watched in torments from across a wide gulf. Muslims are predisposed to dreams and visions – Nabeel’s conversion process included dreams. Perhaps God can reach more Muslims with visions of Nabeel safe and blessed in heaven, while those who reject Jesus aren’t able to enter in. I always felt that Nabeel was “a type of Christ” on this earth. He gave up everything for Jesus – a potentially lucrative career practicing medicine, the pride and support of his beloved mother, father and sister, relationships with his former community. He suffered horrible agony these last few months with medical complications, and he died at age 34 despite asking God to heal him. Nabeel said he was won to Jesus by the truth and beauty of the gospel message, something we can all share.

  • Halloweentown70

    Psalm 139:16 says: “Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them.” The day of our death is not a surprise to God or a lack of intervention by Him. One could say Nabeel was saved at just the right time, to be a beacon of light for a season before his death.

  • barnham

    I am writing this for the benefit of Christians now, so that we can stay alive longer to do what God has called us to do. Far too often, leaders like Nabeel and John Wimber, have left us too early. Nabeel did more for the kingdom of God than pretty much all of us will do in our lifetime.

    No one can say with certainty that Nabeel was not healed. In vlog 37, I think, he mentioned receiving prayer at a conference, that took away his pain. He was able to drink an ensure in a couple of minutes rather than 5 hours it took before prayer. He was able to eat a kids meal at Burger King and even had a Steak and Crab dinner that night. He felt no pain although his stomach felt tender after prayer. When you receive new cells in your stomach, it is going to feel tender. It would have been better to eat baby food, rather than the meals he ate. Yes, I’m serious. No fault of his own, though, since current Christian teaching seems to indicate you can eat whatever you want. I deny that teaching. Yes, all food is clean, but not all food is beneficial. A lot of what we eat is masqueraded as food, but it is chemicals.

    The bible says in Galations 5, “For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want.” The unhealthiest food we have today is often the best tasting food. God wants us to deny our flesh for something even better, spiritual food.
    Nabeel, you will be missed by millions.

    • Debra Nunnally

      Please dear ones,now is not the time to chastise Nabeel nor his food choices. I praise God that he was able to taste and see that the Lord is good-including Burger King and steak and crab. No more of our opinions on these things, please. If it is of concern to you, you will see him again in glory and you can talk to him face to face. But, now, precious brothers and sisters in Christ, pour out your love on his dear family. Have compassion upon their grief. And please save your teaching for another time and place. God’s blessings upon you and your heart that cares so deeply.

      • Jemima Aaron

        How I wish I had half the grace as you showed on this response! God bless you

      • barnham

        please, only tough people read this…Nabeel said it perfectly in one of his books when he felt like he wanted to die so he would not make his parent’s suffer because he left Islam. God told him it was not about him. It was about others. Still is. We must put an end to the thief stealing, killig and destroying our bodies. he cannot kill out souls but he can deceive us into killing out bodies which he takes delight since he hates God’s creation. Our children question God when we die young from cancer and other deseases so yes, it is important.The fries and hamburgers areI not a blessing from God. They contain toxins that can kill your body. Ensure contains lots and lots of chemicals.

        • Adam InElmont

          Hey Barnham i don’t wanna be insensative to Nabeel he was and incredible man of God i highly respect and who’s books i own, but there is validity to what your are saying. And until many believers start to be more aware of they’re health and what they put into their bodies then many are subject to sickeness and may sleep before they’re time. Big Pharma and most of the medical industry had failed us and people must understand Cancer is a big business. There are many alternatives proven to be effective much more then most allopathic treatments.

          I just pray God gives us the wisdom to study medicinal herbal nutritional healing, there is much information out there. Many clinics like ” The Gerson therapy, Dr Burzynski The Hippocrates institute ” and the list goes on. Many have been very successful at healing stage 4 Cancer. Im not judging Nabeel’s decisions or Gods purposes i say all this in Love, i lost both my parents at a young age and have been deeply affected, they as well put much faith and reliled on the medical industry too much which has once again failed miserably. Chemotherapy doesnt work, and it destroys all good cells.

          Detoxing keeping the blood clean and within the proper alkaline ranges, juicing, high doses of pro biotics, the body ecology diet, going Raw Vegan for periods of time, keeping hydrated with enough clean or alkaline water, taking proper minerals, deep breathing, getting out in the sun more, exercise especially something like rebounding which helps then Lymphatic system flow properly and relase toxins also proven to be a better exercise then swimming. I heard a testimony of a man beating Cancer simply by eating fresh fruits and veggies mostly raw, Juicing and rebounding 3 hours a day.

          I prayed much when my mother passed even about my own health and i know shortly after the Lord shared many of these tips for us to live a healthy life. We can no longer just put anything into our bodies and expect to remain healthy all actions have reactions, we MUST be health-conscious food is no longer the same as it was in the days of the Bible. GMO and nano particles in the food. Soil depleted of minerals, us not getting enough enzyme’s in our food these are all factors.

          Again none of this is me taking a cheap shot at Nabeel in anyway, he showed great courage till the end, i have love for that brother im sure he’s in great Joy in the presence of Jesus, all im saying is for us to be aware and informed, the best cure to sickness is prevention lets be proactive from now on. ” Let thy food be thy medicine and thy medicine be thy food ” Hippocrates ” I just don’t want to see another believer fight the good fight of faith, without also being aware of these un conditional truths on health.

          When battling sickness we need all the tools necessary. Juicing has changed my life especally the Lemon ginger blast, i encourage people to look up this recipe and try to make it a daily or weekly habit for the rest of your life. Again not judging anyone, my mother was a beliver who died very young aswell, i just want people to be aware of food choices and their consequences. God bless to all my bornagain believers and as Neebel said in his last video, this is all rooted in love. Bless you all !!

      • Susonne Dobesh

        Proverbs 25:11
        A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in a setting of silver.
        Thank you Debra for encouraging people to exercise wisdom in their responses towards a family whose immediate needs are words of comfort and encouragement. When my son died at the age of 19 years old, it helped to hear how people loved him and were influenced by his love for Jesus. Nabeel inspired all who listened to him to live unashamedly and wholeheartedly for the Lord.

    • Adam InElmont

      I dont wanna be insensative to Nabeel he was incredible man of God i highly respect and who’s books i own, but there is validity to what your are saying. And until many believers start to be more aware of they’re health and what they put into their bodies then many are subject to sickeness and may sleep before there time. Big Pharma and most of the medical industry had failed us and people must understand Cancer is a big business. There are many alternatives proven to be effective much more then most allopathic treatments. I just pray God gives us the wisdom to study medicinal herbal nutritional healing, there is much information out there. Many clinics like ” The Gerson therapy, Dr Burzynski The Hippocrates institute ” and the list goes on. Many have been very successful at healing stage 4 Cancer. Im not judging Nabeel’s decisions or Gods purposes i say all this in Love, i lost both my parents at a young age and have been deeply affected, they as well put much faith and reliled on the medical industry too much which has once again failed miserably. Chemotherapy doesnt work, and it destroys all good cells. Detoxing keeping the blood clean and within the proper alkaline ranges, juicing, high doses of pro biotics, the body ecology diet, going Raw Vegan for periods of time, keeping hydrated with enough clean or alkaline water, taking proper minerals, exercise especially something like rebounding which helps then Lymphatic system flow properly and relase toxins also proven to be a better exercise then swimming. I heard a testimony of someone beating Cancer simply by eating fresh fruits and veggies mostly raw, Juicing and rebounding 3 hours a day. I prayed much when my mother passed even about my own health and i know shortly after the Lord shared many if these tips for us to live a healthy life. We can no longer just put anything in our bodies and expect to remain healthy we MUST be health-conscious food is no longer the same as it was in the days of the Bible. Again none of this is me taking a cheap shot at Nabeel in anyway, he showed great courage till the end, i love that brother im sure he’s in great Joy in the presence of Jesus, all im saying is for us to be aware, the best cure to sickness is prevention, lets be proactive from now on. Let thy food be thy medicine and thy medicine be thy food ” Hippocrates ” I just don’t want to see another believer fight the good fight of faith, without also being aware of these un conditional truths on health. Juicing has changed my life especally the Lemon ginger blast, i encourage people to look up this recipe and try to make it a daily or weekly habit for the rest of your life. Again not judging anyone, my mother was a beliver who died very young aswell, i just want people to be aware of food choices and their consequences. God bless to all my bornagain believers and as Neebel said in his last video, this is all rooted in love. Bless you all.

  • Erik Manning

    I really learned a lot from Nabeel and I appreciate how he stood with the Lord no matter what the outcome was. The thing I appreciate about Brother Nabeel is that he really exemplified a man who loved God with all his mind and heart. Yet I still believe that God wanted to heal Nabeel, just as he wants to heal all those who will believe. Frank said it himself, Nabeel believed God could heal him but was never convinced that he would.

    Frank says that we shouldn’t say that Nabeel didn’t have enough faith. I think Nabeel had a faith that many of us should strive to have, and certainly a devotion to his Master that most of us do not. Yet He was uncertain of God’s willingness, and that is, at least in the area of his healing, not fully formed faith in the arena of healing. I don’t fault Nabeel…that would be heartless. I think he did the best with he knew. The leper in Mark 1 came to Jesus and said, if you want to, you can make me well. Jesus said “I want to, be cleaned!”

    Over and over we see that God responded to people’s faith as the deciding factor. The Syrophoenecian woman, the woman with the issue of blood, Blind Bartimaeus, the Centurian’s servant, the man let down by four, and I could go on and on. And James says the prayer of faith WILL save the sick.

    Using the disciples as an example of God not willing to heal all doesn’t work here, because persecution is not something we are promised to be spared of (2 Tim 3:12) But that does not mean we have to suffer with sickness. It’s comforting for me to know that both Nabeel is enjoying eternity with God, but that God still desired to heal him. We all fall short of the promises, but we don’t want to build doctrine around experience.

  • Vijeta

    His death is worthy in sight of the Lord, there are very few people in this world who glorify the Lord through their lives and death either. Nabeel made it happen. He is with the Lord Jesus Christ, and soon we believers are going to meet him, he did his job, for what he has been called, we still have to do what we have been called for.
    His wife, daughter, friends and family are in our prayers. I’ll just say take courage, Coming of the Lord is very near, and Nabeels death will lead many souls to the Lord.. Lord is going to do something marvelous.. Bible speaks clearly ” Great is the loss, greater is the Glory”.
    Let’s trust His and continue to pray.

  • Andrew Mason

    RIP Nabeel. I was blessed to discover his book Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus at a Christian bookstore a while back and greatly appreciated it. There are a great many why questions we will never be able to answer, but we can hope that God’s message is spread through this tragedy. As an aside, does anyone know if his parents have come to Christ, or whether they’re still searching?

    • Linda

      His parents and sister are still Muslim.

      • Andrew Mason

        Thanks. Wasn’t sure of the situation. Can but hope and pray.

  • Martina Köninger

    Thank you for sharing this. Nabeels books and Videos had been a great help for me reaching out to refugees in Germany, understanding more of the way they think and be a friend to them. I am sad Nabeel is not on this planet anymore even though I never met him. May God use his heritage to bless many more and help his family.

    • I’m curious: did you use Nabeel’s books in your outreach, or for your personal preparation? Do you know of any Arabic translation available in Germany? We’re starting a regular outreach to refugees in Aachen.

  • Vicky Covert

    Excellent article. Thank you!

  • suzsez

    God does provide healing for cancer, but we have listen and stop committing idolatry by bowing at the feet of “scientists” in white coats who a) have a miserable track record of treating cancer by killing more people with chemo than cancer does, and b) some of whom have been caught intentionally causing cancer in order to keep mainstream medicine in business. This is one of the reasons the GMO/pesticide-laden-food/vaccine industries are in meltdown. The answers lie in God’s perfect system of nutrition. Give the body the tools it needs to heal itself — and being a living creation of God, it does.

    • Mike M

      Lets say starting tomorrow hospitals will not provide chemo for cancer patience but send them home to eat vegetable (although Steve Job was a vegan eating organic as many others).
      I was saved by chemo and three other coworkers too, one of them a second time after 22 years of remission. I know of other two in church that still live after chemo more than 10 years ago. Out of 6 cases in church in the last 15 years 1 died, and 5 lives.
      I agree that we poison ourself, but cancer has been show to kill people since thousand of years ago in all places on earth. So don’t be so sure of yourself and blame scientist. All of the ones claiming miracle healing in church followed a chemo therapy, invented by scientists. God left humanity for thousands of years without painkillers or antibiotics, and Christianity use to burn doctors at stake as witches.
      Even more, later science invented a pill that cancel God’s curse on women to deliver in pain.

  • DerryTseng

    I wholeheartedly agree that it’s okay to tell people we don’t know the answer to why God didn’t heal Nabeel. The question implies that God could have healed him if He so chose. Of course He could have! So why would God not intervene when He had the power to do so? Scripture gives us some really good (and very public) examples of why He might not act. He watched His own Son suffer and die when He could have called down angels to save Him. Likewise, we see Jesus intentionally wait three days before going to Bethany to see Lazarus. In both cases, there were people asking the same question- the mockers who challenged Jesus’ trust in His Father, and the disciples who questioned Jesus’ timing. I think in both of these instances, we learn something about just how mighty God really is: the measure of great power and strength can sometimes be seen in its restraint.

    How is this comforting to us? Well, we can imagine that it must have deeply grieved the Father to see Jesus suffer because He loved Him. Likewise, we see Jesus weeping at the tomb of Lazarus. Because of this we know that He is not watching from afar, but we can be assured that He is very present and He is grieving with us! He knows this is not the end of the story for His children who are suffering. One who was well acquainted with suffering, the apostle Paul said, “I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us.” (Rom. 8:18 NIV) Nabeel was not physically healed and it may never make sense to us. We can rest in the assurance that our ever-present and powerful God will reveal incredible glory out of Nabeel’s life and death that defies our human understanding. I think that is the only and best answer we can offer.

    • Paul Jungck

      Nice thoughtful response.

  • Terry Gentry

    Surely Nabeel’s death is verification that Isaiah 53 is not speaking of physical healing but spiritual healing. I believe God can heal and does heal but He is not obligated to do so. Those who preach that it is physical healing are just wrong. It makes no sense based on reality. He heals all spiritually who desire that but He does not heal all who desire physical healing. Why is this so confusing to so many?

    • commonsensebeliever

      It is confusing, let me explain. “Based on reality”…..you mean your experience. But what portion of scripture suggests that we base our beliefs on our experiences? Never… We are told that the just live by faith, walk in the Spirit, need to study scripture and not be conformed to the ways of the world. People draw all kinds of irrational and illogical conclusions based on usually misunderstood or misjudged actions of others and call those experiences, reality. I agree with your statement that God can and does heal….yes, He does and more often than average folks realize. I personally was healed…I had an accident that gave me a severe brain injury and put me in a coma, drs. said I had no chance for survival, prognosis imminent death. Eight days later I “spontaneously” woke up, my IQ intact, walking, talking, etc….it was considered a miracle. Why some do not get healed, we don’t know and so can’t judge but it is confusing. But we are commanded over and over to lay hands on and pray in faith, believing the sick will be healed…let’s continue to be obedient, rejoice when healing happens and offer love, support and assistance when it doesn’t.

      • Terry Gentry

        No, I am not referring to my experience. I am saying that everyone is not healed who ask for it including Nabeel and that is fact. Thus Isaiah 53 nor Matthew 8 can be stating that Christ died for EVERYONE’S physical healing because it just doesn’t happen. That is truth, reality, and nothing to do with my experience or anybody’s experience. it just is what it is. Christ did die for ALL who want spiritual healing and that is what it is. Is that so complicated?

        • Bartimus Wylde

          I agree with you not everyone receives healing, but that doesn’t conclude it’s not God’s will for all to be healed. Matt 12:15, Matt 15:30, Luke 4:40 say “He healed ALL off them.” Heb 13:8 says, “He’s the same yesterday, today and forever.” If we let the word form our beliefs, and not the experiences of the multitudes, we should see healing is provided for in the Atonement. It’s not God arbitrarily choosing to heal one and not the other, any more than it’s Him choosing to save one and not the other. The Atonement made provision for our healing just as it has our salvation; it’s by faith we receive it. If someone doesn’t receive—that should not affect our belief. Rom 3:4 “Let God be true and every man a liar.”

          *I did not write this for your sake, Terry, as I’m not trying to change your beliefs. This is for any others who have not yet decided if healing is available to all. Consider these Old Testament examples (Ex 23:25, Psalm 103, Prov 4:22, Jer 30:17) and then read Heb 8:6.

          • Terry Gentry

            Bartimus…. to put physical healing on this earth on the same level of importance as spiritual healing now and forever is heretical. The two are worlds apart in the big picture. Jesus while on earth healed a lot of people but He didn’t all the sick. It wasn’t His will that every sick person on the planet while He was in human form be healed. Being He is the same forever, it is still not His will that all be healed. You are not going to change my mind because you make a ridiculous argument. People who believe as you do seem to be the ones who also believe Jesus wants us all to be financially weathy

          • Bartimus Wylde

            Brother Terry, In the big picture, if we had to chose which one is more important—obviously salvation from sin is more important than physical healing. I’m not comparing them or saying we need to choose. I’m saying both are a part of the same redemptive work.

            Luke 5:17-25
            17 And it came to pass on a certain day, as he was teaching, that there were Pharisees and doctors of the law sitting by, which were come out of every town of Galilee, and Judaea, and Jerusalem: and the power of the Lord was present to heal them.
            18 And, behold, men brought in a bed a man which was taken with a palsy: and they sought means to bring him in, and to lay him before him.
            19 And when they could not find by what way they might bring him in because of the multitude, they went upon the housetop, and let him down through the tiling with his couch into the midst before Jesus.
            20 And when he saw their faith, he said unto him, Man, thy sins are forgiven thee.
            21 And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who is this which speaketh blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?
            22 But when Jesus perceived their thoughts, he answering said unto them, What reason ye in your hearts?
            23 Whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Rise up and walk?
            24 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power upon earth to forgive sins, (he said unto the sick of the palsy,) I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy couch, and go into thine house.
            25 And immediately he rose up before them, and took up that whereon he lay, and departed to his own house, glorifying God.

            Verse 17 says, “the power was present to heal THEM” (the Pharisees and everyone else). Do you know what the Pharisees’ problem was?—They doubted the goodness of God. If Jesus provided both forgiveness of sins and physical healing to this man who believed, why would we think He’s not doing both now—to those who believe? Do we doubt God’s goodness?

          • Terry Gentry

            I haven’t said or implied that He’s not doing healing today when it’s His will. For whatever reason it wasn’t His will for Nabeel and millions others. Actually God allowed Nabeel’s cancer to kill him. If you are implying that He didn’t heal Nabeel because he didn’t believe, you’ve just made another mistake. Anyone who followed Nabeel’s vlog for the last year would see he had huge faith. I definitely don’t want to hear anyone say God only heals when you have the “right amount or right kind” of faith. That is a non-measurable statement for which there is zero Scriptural affirmation.

          • Bartimus Wylde

            Believing that God can heal, and waiting to see if it happens requires no faith. Jesus emphasized over and over it was “their faith that made them well” Do you remember the woman with the issue of blood? She went to Jesus without even asking and “took” a healing. He had to ask, “who touched Me?” If you’re saying that everything that happens is up to God—how did she know it was His will? She didn’t even ask for it, she took it! Jesus said to her, “Daughter, be of good cheer, your faith has made you well.” He didn’t say “My power has made you well, or it was My will to heal you” He said, “YOUR faith.” Her faith grabbed the healing power that was available on Jesus. Healing is available to all, but our faith must take possession of it for it to manifest in our bodies. Colossians 2:6 says, “As you have received Christ Jesus as Lord, so walk in Him.” How did we receive Jesus as Lord? Did we believe God can save, and wait to see if anything happened? No, we heard the good news that He already paid the penalty for our sins and we put faith in what He did. That same day He paid for our sicknesses and diseases too. By faith we take possession of what He paid for.

          • Terry Gentry

            Of course waiting on God takes faith. We ask and wait to see if it is His will. We don’t always know His will. Your belief is that physical healing is always His will. That is ludicrous. It just doesn’t happen that way. She “took” nothing. She was granted healing after she exhibited faith. Jesus” means of healing were different at various times. I’m think this is the only time a touch of his garment was used. Others in the crowd also touched Him. Maybe they were healed maybe not.

          • Bartimus Wylde

            If you had the power to heal your child, would you ever WILL them to be sick? Please don’t say, “we don’t understand His ways, sometimes He allows us to be sick to teach us things.” If you say such things then you don’t know the same God I know. He never wills for His children to be sick, any more than we want our children to be sick. He teaches us things, yes, but He doesn’t put sickness on us to do it. Sickness is a result of sin, it entered the world through the disobedience of man; it is from the evil one. Jesus came to free us from the power of satan; from sin and all of it’s evil appendages.

          • cmwenzel

            I may be stating the obvious but what about taking into account the physical ailments that God allowed Satan to inflict on Job. How would you explain that away? I do think God wants everything for our good, but I think the answers are more complicated about why things are allowed to happen.

          • Bartimus Wylde

            Sorry, just seeing your message now.. It seems you’re genuinely interested in understanding, and not just wanting to argue. Consider this; instead of reading through the scriptures looking for reasons why God doesn’t do good, use the same methodology, but look for reasons why He DOES do good. Remember in the beginning—God saw all that He had made and it was good! It wasn’t until satan came on the scene that man began to doubt God’s goodness. Think about that—satan tricked Adam & Eve into thinking God was somehow not good, and how did that wind up? We see the same tactic used by the enemy today; he’s constantly trying to get us to view God in a negative light. We don’t have to believe that though; if we will choose to believe God is good, everything we read in the scriptures will take on that light.
            Jesus gave us the ability to have a PERSONAL relationship with God, that means however WE view God is how we’re going to relate to Him. To the degree of God’s goodness we “see” that’s the degree of God’s goodness we’ll experience. Jesus made mention many times, that it’s OUR faith that determines what we receive, not according to what He’s able to do. Faith comes by revelation of the word of God, so again—it’s what WE see in the word that determines what we have faith for.
            If all someone sees in Jesus dying on the cross is a ticket to heaven, that’s where their faith is—that’s what God will honor. But if someone else sees in the scriptures that God’s willing to do much more, and their faith is stirred and they believe for it—He will honor that just the same.
            This makes religious people mad, because they don’t want take responsibility for what happens. It’s easier to believe “it’s all up to God,” but that’s just not the truth. It’s not up to God, it’s how we see God, and therefore what we believe; and we are all receiving according to what we’re believing. This is what Jesus said.
            As far as Job, yeah he had a rough couple months, but he lived 140 years after that, and the latter part of his life was more blessed than the beginning. How do you see God? God won’t be offended if you believe Him for every good thing you can find in the bible, He’ll actually reward you for it! Now, if someone is mad over this, it’s just revealing how they see God. They shouldn’t be mad, they are getting what they are believing for. If to me, God’s willing to do more; according to Jesus words—I will receive according to what I am believing for.

    • Bartimus Wylde

      Matthew 8:16-17

  • Mike M

    SIMPLE…because God is not in the business of sickening anybody or healing anybody. I understood this when I was diagnose with cancer but the doctor said “with your God or without him I will heal you”. The I ask anybody not to pray for me, but I prayed that if He is in control not to heal me and I will understand that His will is done. Guess what, it is 4 years since I got out of the hospital and the cancer has not returned but follow its natural remission course.
    Do I loose my faith? NO, but I understand that GOD has other meaning for live that what we know, and that we have to respect and live what is been given to us.

  • Supardy Geajerd

    We must understand that Jesus is word of god and we all is from Adam and Eve that means all people’s belong to this world must died in every aspect. But Jesus promise us rejoice after death for becoming Jesus followers, rejoice after death to follow Jesus Christ because Jesus is the only way to our feather’s homes. This world just belongs to God of world that is Satan. and the only way to be save is go to The Cross of Jesus Christ u will be save. Read the Bible every sheep know his mater’s voice and where your treasures is there your heart will be rest. Nabil save from this world he knows his master as apostle Paul did.

  • Joner

    As said there are 2 important dates in our lives, first is when you are born and the second is when you find out why. Bro. Nabeel has surely gotten both and I’m sure there’s much rejoicing in Heaven and much benefits for the body of Christ that he fulfills his.

    So really we can be certain that God takes care of him and his family. But pity to those who are still seeking and much pity to those who turn a blind eye to what has been revealed to them by God through Bro. Nabeel. And this I believe is the other message of his being with the Lord that now the call is open to anyone to takes up the baton and continue what he has started until the coming of our Lord Jesus.

    Blessing to all.

  • Philmonomer

    Why didn’t God heal Nabeel Qureshi?

    The answer strikes me as obvious: God mostly likely doesn’t exist.

    • Aaron Brown

      Why would you think God most likely doesn’t exist? What do you think tips the scale to “likely doesn’t” rather than the evidence is equal on both sides?

      • Philmonomer

        Why would you think God most likely doesn’t exist?

        Well, first we have to agree on what we mean by “God.” I mean the Christian God (God in three persons–the Trinity) who cares about people, and interacts with our world. If God just means “Deism,” who got the whole ball rolling and walked away–then that God could definitely exist. But I don’t find that God interesting, as it would have not affect our lives.

        What do you think tips the scale to “likely doesn’t” rather than the evidence is equal on both sides?

        I would think that allowing him to die is a huge “hit” to Christian apologetics towards the Muslim world. First, he could have been a voice for Christian conversion from Muslims for the next 50 years–all that is lost. Second, his death allows Muslims to say that he was punished for converting. In that regard, it seems like his death actively works against Christian apologetics. If the Christina God existed, and cared about these things, it seems like Nabeel wouldn’t have died. But he did die. So I think it counts against the Christian God’s existence.

        Now, could God have his own reasons for doing this, that are beyond my understanding? I suppose so. I just don’t think it’s likely.

        • TheSaint4JC

          Philmonomer,
          “Nabeel could have been a voice for God/Christian conversion to Muslims for the next 50 years–all that is lost.”

          I’m confident Nabeel would have said, ‘no, I’m not the answer nor voice… Jesus alone is’
          The loss of Nabeel is not a loss to God… because only Jesus could save… only One name is given under heaven by which all men may be saved by… it’s Jesus, or Yeshua… not Nabeel… and I know Nabeel would agree 100% with that sentiment.

          • Philmonomer

            I am sure Nabeel would agree with the theology. However, it doesn’t change the fact that he is no longer able to share his testimony, or engage in debate, or work for conversion of Muslims. That seems like a huge loss.

          • cmwenzel

            I know that before I was a believer I had bits of pieces of knowledge that I strung along to form my idea of who God is. It resulted in my having an incorrect picture of God that did not match up against the proof that I found many years later in studying the Bible. My concern is that you are going down the same road I did before. I would encourage you to read the Bible with an open mind to seek and study for yourself the truth.

          • Philmonomer

            I would encourage you to read the Bible with an open mind to seek and study for yourself the truth.

            This is the exact same thing Mormon missionaries told me. Literally, I should read the book of Mormon and seek the truth.

          • cmwenzel

            It is a personal journey to find the truth. I was raised in a Christian home, but drifted away until my late 30’s. Seven years ago, health issues prompted me to figure out what I believed. I investigated other religions, psychology, self help. I also learned things from personal experiences. People witnessed to me along the way. I saw the peace that my sister, a believer, had going through life. I came back to Christianity because of the message of love, sacrifice, and hope. It transformed me. That’s an amazing thing to hear if you haven’t experienced it. There isn’t much that changes our core beliefs after they’re formed, but Jesus did that for me.

          • Philmonomer

            I agree its a personal journey to find truth. I find it absolutely fascinating that, across the world, people come to such different answers.

        • Aaron Brown

          “Now, could God have his own reasons for doing this, that are beyond my understanding? I suppose so. I just don’t think it’s likely.”
          Frankly, I just don’t see how we are in any kind of a position to be able to make that judgement. We see such a small part of the picture that I just don’t think that we can honestly say that God having reasons for permitting evil is improbable. So in short I agree with Dr. Turek. I’m just wondering, do you think that any of the arguments for God’s existence succeed? If not why so?

          • Philmonomer

            Frankly, I just don’t see how we are in any kind of a position to be able to make that judgement.

            What information do you think I’m missing? Why do you think we are not in a “position to be able to make that judgment?”

            From where I am, I see really only two options. 1) God has His reasons to allow Nabeel’s death or 2) There most likely isn’t a God, such that Nabeel’s death is merely a part of nature, with no God involved.

            I can’t think of any good reasons for 1). I’m not sure if you can either, but if you simply accept that we aren’t in any position to make such a judgement, it seems like you aren’t even willing to consider 2).

            We see such a small part of the picture that I just don’t think that we can honestly say that God having reasons for permitting evil is improbable.

            Well, we are talking about a very specific thing. The death of Nabeel. I don’t see that as “permitting evil.” I see that as nature taking its course. You see it as the Christian God’s will. God has his reasons simply doesn’t strike me as a probable answer. The more probable answer is “God isn’t involved.” (Indeed, according to Christians, God wants us to have a relationship with Jesus Christ, wants us to be Christian–and not Muslim, for example–how does letting Nabeel die further that goal? It strikes me that letting Nabeel die is overwhelmingly likely to NOT achieve that goal. Instead, you have to rely on some unknown/hidden/mystery purpose in God’s actions. At some point, common sense should kick in and say–I think that’s overwhelmingly likely to not be true.)

            So in short I agree with Dr. Turek.

            Ok. What leads you to think that God exists, and that God has his reasons?

            I’m just wondering, do you think that any of the arguments for God’s existence succeed? If not, why not?

            I don’t think so. If they did, I think most professional philosophers would be Theists. (I realize this isn’t some “air tight” argument against God (Philosophers could be wrong, for example.)) However, the fact that professional philosophers don’t agree that Theism is true strikes me as a reasonably good reason to think the arguments don’t hold up. In this regard, it just seems like common sense.)

          • Aaron Brown

            “What information do you think I’m missing? Why do you think we are not in a “position to be able to make that judgment?”

            From where I am, I see really only two options. 1) God has His reasons to allow Nabeel’s death or 2) There most likely isn’t a God, such that Nabeel’s death is merely a part of nature, with no God involved.”
            It seems to me that I am under no obligation to provide evidence that God has overriding reasons for allowing a certain evil. (like Nabeel’s death) The burden of proof is clearly on the skeptic who says that God’s existence is rendered improbable due to the presence of evil. I am simply saying that we as finite human beings are not really in a position to make this judgment. God could have overriding reasons in the future or even a place that we cannot see for allowing evil. My point is that we just can’t know either way and are therefore unable to say that it is probable or improbable that God could have overriding reasons for allowing evil in general to occur. (or specific instances of evil such as Nabeel’s death.

            “Well, we are talking about a very specific thing. The death of Nabeel. I don’t see that as “permitting evil.” I see that as nature taking its course. You see it as the Christian God’s will. God has his reasons simply doesn’t strike me as a probable answer. The more probable answer is “God isn’t involved.” (Indeed, according to Christians, God wants us to have a relationship with Jesus Christ, wants us to be Christian–and not Muslim, for example–how does letting Nabeel die further that goal? It strikes me that letting Nabeel die is overwhelmingly likely to NOT achieve that goal. Instead, you have to rely on some unknown/hidden/mystery purpose in God’s actions. At some point, common sense should kick in and say–I think that’s overwhelmingly likely to not be true.)”

            Frankly, I don’t know how letting Nabeel die will further God’s goal. But I don’t see how you can say, given how much is unknown, that it’s improbable that God could have overriding reasons for allowing it. Again I must emphasize that I do not bear the burden of proof in this matter; it is the one who says that evil renders God’s existence improbable who bears the burden of proof.

            “Ok. What leads you to think that God exists, and that God has his reasons?”
            I am willing to provide evidence but before I do I would like to ask you a very simple(but profound) question; on your view why is there something rather than nothing? Or put in a different way, why does anything at all exist?

            “I don’t think so. If they did, I think most professional philosophers would be Theists. (I realize this isn’t some “air tight” argument against God (Philosophers could be wrong, for example.)) However, the fact that professional philosophers don’t agree that Theism is true strikes me as a reasonably good reason to think the arguments don’t hold up. In this regard, it just seems like common sense.)”

            Have you ever considered that the history of philosophy has been in favor of theism far more than atheism? The current support for atheism is actually a modern phenomena when taken within the wider context of history. I guess you could say that we understand the natural world better than they did at the time of Aristotle; but quite a few of the arguments for God’s existence are purely philosophical in nature and cannot be falsified by scientific discoveries. I can understand that you like to accept what the experts say, but do you really think that this is the best way to settle these matters? These are some of the biggest questions thinking people can ask and you are settling them with a simple head count? I guess you can do this, I just don’t think that it is really the best way to settle these types of questions.

          • Philmonomer

            It seems to me that I am under no obligation to provide evidence that God has overriding reasons for allowing a certain evil.(like Nabeel’s death) The burden of proof is clearly on the skeptic who says that God’s existence is rendered improbable due to the presence of evil.

            I don’t find the argument over “who holds the burden of proof” to be all that helpful in casual discussions over God. I’d think you claim that “The Christian God exists, and he has X characteristics–including being all good (etc.), and wants humans to have a relationship with Him.” (Maybe you don’t claim that?) Given the traditional claims about God, then the question becomes why do certain things happen in the world (when this God exists.) Sure, you can say “God has his reasons.” But I don’t find that satisfying. I can’t think of any reasons (doesn’t mean the reasons don’t exist).

            With regard to Nabeel’s death, it seems like his death works against the things Christians say God is like/wants. Given that, it seems like a data point that that God doesn’t exist.

            I am simply saying that we as finite human beings are not really in a position to make this judgment. God could have overriding reasons in the future or even a place that we cannot see for allowing evil.

            Sure, God could have reasons in the future, or even a place that we cannot see. What makes us think this is likely? I don’t know of any. Sure, it’s possible. But I don’t see why it is likely. The more parsimonious explanation is that God isn’t involved (rather than some complicated other scenario.) In a similar manner, Last Thursdayism could be true too. I don’t have any reason to think it is likely.

            My point is that we just can’t know either way and are therefore unable to say that it is probable or improbable that God could have overriding reasons for allowing evil in general to occur. (or specific instances of evil such as Nabeel’s death.

            Hmmm. This is interesting, but doesn’t seem right to me. Merely because there could be reasons doesn’t mean that it renders any speculation on it impossible.

            Allow me a digression: Years ago I went to a lecture on the 2000 U.S Presidential Election. The person lecturing demonstrated, that with a 95 percent probability, that the butterfly ballot in Florida cost Gore the election. There was an abnormally high number of people voting for Buchanan (I believe he was second on the Ballot). There was no explanation for why so many people voted for Buchanan (given what we know of that population who used the butterfly ballot.) The take away was that those people were almost certainly confused, and meant to vote for Gore. Now there is a whole universe of reasons for why people could have decided to vote for Buchanan that year. But without a good reason, the most likely explanation was that they got confused by the ballot. If someone could put forward a good reason, that would change things, but the mere fact that there could be reasons, without more, wasn’t sufficient.

            Frankly, I don’t know how letting Nabeel die will further God’s goal. But I don’t see how you can say, given how much is unknown, that it’s improbable that God could have overriding reasons for allowing it. Again I must emphasize that I do not bear the burden of proof in this matter; it is the one who says that evil renders God’s existence improbable who bears the burden of proof.

            The answer strikes me as fairly straightforward: I can think of lots of reasons why the Christian God wouldn’t let Nabeel die; I can’t think of any good reasons as to why he would let him die. Given this, I think this is a reason to think the Christian God doesn’t exist (or doesn’t exist in the manner Christians believe–again Deism could be true).

            I am willing to provide evidence but before I do I would like to ask you a very simple(but profound) question; on your view why is there something rather than nothing? Or put in a different way, why does anything at all exist?

            Why is there something rather than nothing? I don’t know. I don’t think anyone does. I’m not sure it is a meaningful question.

            Have you ever considered that the history of philosophy has been in favor of theism far more than atheism? The current support for atheism is actually a modern phenomena when taken within the wider context of history. I guess you could say that we understand the natural world better than they did at the time of Aristotle;

            I think you are right, in that we understand the natural world better than we did then. Indeed, God was, IMHO, a thing that we used to explain things we didn’t understand. As we understand more, God becomes less.

            but quite a few of the arguments for God’s existence are purely philosophical in nature and cannot be falsified by scientific discoveries.

            I think there is fairly wide agreement the philosophical arguments are ultimately not successful.

            I can understand that you like to accept what the experts say, but do you really think that this is the best way to settle these matters?

            It seems like a reasonably good reason. It seems like the consensus among philosophers as to what is most likely to be true seems like a good way to settle these matters. I’m open to suggestions though.

            These are some of the biggest questions thinking people can ask and you are settling them with a simple head count?

            There are a lot of different answers to these questions. A head count seems like a good starting point. But I’m open to suggestions.

            I guess you can do this, I just don’t think that it is really the best way to settle these types of questions.

            I think the consensus among the experts is probably the best way. I’m not sure of any other that can reliably lead to truth. What are you thinking?

          • Aaron Brown

            “I don’t find the argument over “who holds the burden of proof” to be all that helpful in casual discussions over God. I’d think you claim that “The Christian God exists, and he has X characteristics–including being all good (etc.), and wants humans to have a relationship with Him.” (Maybe you don’t claim that?) Given the traditional claims about God, then the question becomes why do certain things happen in the world (when this God exists.) Sure, you can say “God has his reasons.” But I don’t find that satisfying. I can’t think of any reasons (doesn’t mean the reasons don’t exist).”

            Why don’t you think that the burden of proof is “all that helpful in casual discussions over God”? I think it is very important in debates to understand who has the burden of proof. I can understand that this might be difficult sometimes in casual discussions, but I think in this discussion it is clear that you were the one who made the claim that God’s existence is improbable because of evil. This of course means that you bear the burden of proof that it is improbable that God has overriding reasons for allowing evil.

            “With regard to Nabeel’s death, it seems like his death works against the things Christians say God is like/wants. Given that, it seems like a data point that that God doesn’t exist.”

            Again, I don’t think that we can say with any confidence that good will not come from it. I guess what you are saying is that “with the knowledge we have, Nabeel’s death seems to hinder God’s purposes”. But if we have very little knowledge how can we know that this is accurate assessment objectively? If we have little information,(which you seem to have conceded) how can we honestly say that God’s existence is improbable given the evil that exists? So I am actually arguing from something we do know, namely our lack of sufficient knowledge to be able to say that God doesn’t have reasons for allowing evil.

            “Sure, God could have reasons in the future, or even a place that we cannot see. What makes us think this is likely? I don’t know of any. Sure, it’s possible. But I don’t see why it is likely. The more parsimonious explanation is that God isn’t involved (rather than some complicated other scenario.) In a similar manner, Last Thursdayism could be true too. I don’t have any reason to think it is likely.”

            The question is whether it is more probable that God would allow evil. Now, I think it would be good format mention that I don’t think that God’s existence is improbable even if the probabilistic version of the problem of evil is a good argument. But, again I’ll will have to point out that we don’t have enough information be able to make to say whether it is probable or improbable.

            “The answer strikes me as fairly straightforward: I can think of lots of reasons why the Christian God wouldn’t let Nabeel die; I can’t think of any good reasons as to why he would let him die. Given this, I think this is a reason to think the Christian God doesn’t exist (or doesn’t exist in the manner Christians believe–again Deism could be true).”
            What if God allowed Nabeel to die so that others would come to become Christians; like maybe Nabeel’s parents and sister?

            “Why is there something rather than nothing? I don’t know. I don’t think anyone does. I’m not sure it is a meaningful question.”
            Allow me to phrase the question a bit differently. If the universe didn’t have to exist, why does it exist? What do you mean by “meaningful”?

            “I think you are right, in that we understand the natural world better than we did then. Indeed, God was, IMHO, a thing that we used to explain things we didn’t understand. As we understand more, God becomes less.”
            Yes, it is unfortunately true that we have sometimes simply filled gaps in our knowledge. But I do think that certain scientific discoveries (like that the universe had a beginning and that molecular life is far more complex than we could have every dreamed of) seems to lend credibility to theism.

            “I think there is fairly wide agreement the philosophical arguments are ultimately not successful.”
            Are you referring to the consensus of recent philosophers that the arguments fail? Again I would have to point out that historically this is not necessarily the case.

            “It seems like a reasonably good reason. It seems like the consensus among philosophers as to what is most likely to be true seems like a good way to settle these matters. I’m open to suggestions though.”
            I think that a good way of going about it would be to read what the experts(from both sides) say concerning the arguments and then make a decision. Obviously we aren’t experts but I think that it is still good for each person to decide the arguments for themselves.

          • Philmonomer

            I think it’s possible that you had a reply somewhere that was lost? At least I think I briefly saw something, then, when I had time to go back and read it (half a day later), it was gone.

            Also, I have a comment with embedded quotes in it (that is, the quotes in my comment come from your comment). However, that comment from you doesn’t show up. It seems like something weird happened. Do you delete your comments?

  • Paul Leong

    This is the great timing of the Lord. It all works for the greatest benefit of Nabeel. I assure you that he has already attain to the full measure of God’s grace for him. If your appointed time has come ,just go in peace.
    Just as King Hezekiah who should had gone in peace and would had receive the greatest reward for his faithfulness to God. What a pity when the self righteousness of man came in and comended one self to God, asking for extra years. See how King Hezekiah sinned when he showed of all the treasures of his house to the Babylonian during his extra years. 2King chapter 20.
    Nabeel has finished his course, fought the good fight, and a crown of righteousness is laid up for him. Cheer for him, tremble for ourselves. Just as John the Baptist said when he is about to finish his ministries ” May the LORD increase and I decrease”。

  • Paul Leong

    Hi Philmonomer,
    When you watch the Boeing 747 flying, don’t you agree with me there is a brilliant Boeing manufacturer behind it. When you see a Lamborghini speeding on the highway, don’t your admire the high tech of its manufacturer. When you use the I Phone, don’t tell me you do not believe Apple company ever existed (even if you have never visited Apple Company before.) Bill Gates confess that his computers are totally no match to the complexity of our human DNA. Who match the molars of an ox to its four loop stomachs? What if an ox has no molars but a mouth full of canines?Can any Big Bangs bang out a bangalore for you to stay in, say in a trillion x trillion chance? ,or another trillion x trillion chance of banging out a bull and a cow that will mate and give birth to a calf? So in beholding the great Wisdom , Knowledge and Order of the universe, I think you agree with me there is a Master Manufacturer or Creator or GOD ,isn’t it?

    • Philmonomer

      I don’t know how we can conclude that there is a “Master Manufacturer or Creator or God,” based simply on observing what’s around us.

      • Paul Leong

        Hi Philmonomer,
        l see that you are more of a ‘theist’ than an ‘atheist’.
        Who place the earth at its critical distance from the sun? What will happen if the earth is half its distance from the sun? or if it is double the distance? Human kind would be extinct by then.Coincidence
        ? Happen by chance? or some Wise ONE must be there to place the earth in its exact position?

        Again , what if the mass of the earth is only half its mass? We would bounce our head against the ceiling as we walk. Likewise what will happen if it is doubled? We would be crawling on our belly! Who makes the earth to its critical mass . Coincidence? By chance? Or rather there is a Maker who mould the earth to its exact size,
        and syncronice all factors to sustain life. Oh, how great is the wisdom of creation. How unfathomable are the mysteries of life.
        Observing what’s around us is to comprehend the knowledge hidden behind it. How do archeologist conclude that a certain civilization exist in a certain site unless they bounce on some artifacts or objects arranged in a certain manner for a certain purpose. So seeing the greatness of nature we afirm that there is a Knowledgable One behind.Call Him WISDOM if you want, or True KNOWLEDGE, of Wonderful COUNCELLER. The Bible call Him the ‘WORD’.
        I believe you have no problem with the existence of God, your problem is ‘ If there is a christian God, why do He let Nabeel die ,which seems to be something detrimental to His Name. If there is God why not He defend himself?’
        This is the creation’s mindset, not the Creator’s mindset. By the end of the day, it is not what Nabeel can do for God, but rather what God can do for Nabeel. Can’t God just stand out and wipe out all works of evil with just one blow, since He is the Almighty? Yes, obviously He can. So why the trouble ? Why the fuss? Why Nabeel? Why me? Why you? He can do all things well and perfect without us. Here lies the great Mercy of God, the great Love of our heavenly Father ,that through the church the Grace of God may be praised. Don’t you think it is wounderful to be among the victors who enter into Gods Kingdom and likewise what a horror to be cast into eternal fire ( which you cannot say for certain do not exist). So chose life, don’t chose death. God has a good plan for us if only we are willing. Oh you of little faith, worry not that God cannot defend Himself, but ratter trust that He has install the best for Nabeel. He can do everything by Himself, but He rather share his glory with us to our benefit. Not that we can help God in anything, but it is His mercy on a broken vessel. In conclusion, not how much Nabeel can do for God,

      • Jonathan Darnel

        Well, what he was pointing out was that what’s around us is so unbelievably complex and organized that it is unreasonable to see it as he result of a chaotic dance of atoms randomly smashing together without design.

        • Philmonomer

          You look around and see “design” everywhere. I look around and see “not design” everywhere. Fascinating.

  • Neil MacEwan

    Re why didn’t God heal Nabeel

    The Bible gives a possible solution in Isaiah 57:1
    “The righteous perish, and no man layeth it to heart:
    and merciful men are taken away, none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come………etc”

    I remember a claimed true story about a congregation praying
    for a 10 year old in their congregation who was very ill
    The congregation prayed earnestly and passionately for his healing
    So much so that the Lord healed him because of their compassion(?)
    But a few years later, the 10 year old got into trouble with the law, so much so that he ended up in prison, and was murdered in prison

    Was this (future) evil something that Nabeel could not foresee, but the Lord in His
    Mercy, did, and thus HE removed Nabeel from the evil that was planned against him?

    Neil, in Canada

  • Bevan Thomas

    Sometimes peoples lives and faith have a bigger impact on others when they gone to be with the Lord. My wife didn’t become a christian until my mother died of cancer and the impact of her faith and love towards her actually broke through satans chains on my wife’s life.

  • Mo

    He was such a lovely person. Watching him suffer so much was unbearable. I am glad he is finally healed and with his Lord, whom he loved and served so well.

    Still, it’s so sad for his loved ones left behind.

  • Lucy S. Overstreet

    Great article, Frank !!

  • Simply put: God is God, and we are not. How dare we demand He “heal” someone the way we demand?

  • Hildabeast

    This is why whenever anyone asks for a healing or any kind of prayer, I always precede it with, “Lord, if it is your will… heal this person”. Rather than make any ‘demands’ of my own. The only thing I expect of God is that I will be in heaven with Him once the fleshy party of life is over. Not because I demand it, but because He promised that whomever believes in His Son, Jesus Christ, will have eternal life….

  • cmwenzel

    As I read many of these comments it makes me think of Job’s friends and the various arguments that they made to him about what God was doing with his suffering. I’m sure some answers are a better approximation of what God intends than others.

    I had the privilege of hearing and meeting Nabeel several times in Houston. I too was one of those praying faithfully for him. He really touched people with his ways and unwavering conviction.

    I am curious about what why we are not discussing more about Heaven. It seems to me we tend to view Heaven as an end and not a new beginning. Should we not assume that God has a place and purpose for Nabeel there?

    We know that there are rewards in Heaven. There is some sort of hierarchical structure, the Apostles have thrones. We know that there are witnesses from Heaven to see what happens on earth. We know that there is praise in Heaven. We know that Moses and Elijah came back to earth for the transfiguration with Jesus. We speculate that the two witnesses in the end times of Revelation will be former prophets. Last we know that the Earth and probably Heaven too are preparing for the Great War to defeat Satan. Some of here on Earth even think we are in end times.

    My thinking or point is that there is such a complexity to the speculation of why Nabeel is no longer with us. But, I fully believe that his life is beginning not ending and that he is waiting for us to join him.

    I am far from an expert. I think the questions and ideas I have gleaned from these posts, along with the significance of the topics of miracles, suffering, death, purpose, etc. provide enough ideas I hope for a seminary paper one day.

    • Randy

      Excellent point about Heaven. I expect if we asked him now he would be quite happy with the outcome, and like Paul, prefer to be with Christ now, instead of here on earth with us – no offense.

  • It’s inspiring to learn of Nabeel’s story. Indeed, the ripples of his life will extend into eternity. Praise the name of Jesus!

  • Jesus healed only one person at the pool of Bethesda. If we are not healed, it does not mean that we did something wrong and are being punished. Sometimes it just is our time. Nabeel had faith for healing but God took him home and we will never understand God’s thoughts and ways of doing things but we can rest in knowing He loves us and knows best and God is there for Nabeel’s wife and daughter and will provide for them and keep them safe under His wings. Nabeel’s wife is going to continue his ministry. God bless her and their daughter.
    We as believers long to be away from this body and present with the Lord.
    God bless you. #JESUSisLORD

  • Greg Dalton

    Good word! Thanks for sharing! Praise God for the hope we have through Jesus Christ!

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