Should Mike Pence be Prosecuted for Not Dining With Women? Vox Thinks So.

Anti-discrimination zealots have destroyed basic freedoms for men, especially white men.

By John Zmirak Published on April 2, 2017

Mollie Hemingway cited this column at Vox as the dumbest response to the non-story that Vice President Pence takes modest, prudent steps to guard his marriage.

Joanna L. Grossman, an attorney who specializes in employment law, asserts:

[T]he practice described by Pence in that 2002 interview is clearly illegal when practiced by a boss in an employment setting, and deeply damaging to women’s employment opportunities.

Title VII, which governs workplace discrimination, does not allow employers to treat people differently on the basis of certain protected characteristics, one of which is sex. This means that an employer cannot set the terms and conditions of employment differently for one gender than for the other. This includes any aspect of the relationship between employer and employees — extending to benefits like equal access to the employer.

It might be the dumbest hot take on the Pences. But it’s also deeply revealing.

The Left Wants to Police Every Aspect of Life

I’m not a lawyer. I can’t comment on how well Grossman has parsed the relevant statutes. But it’s clear what she has in mind. There is no aspect of life, however private, that the left doesn’t want to police.

Every decision, however personal, stands beneath the prying eyes of prosecutors and tort lawyers.

A man cannot decide whom to eat with. He cannot take basic steps to guard the sanctity of his marriage. His every decision, however personal, stands beneath the prying eyes of prosecutors and tort lawyers. (Just so, his teenage daughter must endure the prying eyes of boys in her locker room in the name of “transgender” rights, but that’s another article.)

Why? Because his decisions might, just might alter the career prospects of an employee. That wouldn’t matter if the employee were a straight white male — and hence not a member of one of discrimination law’s “protected classes.”

But a member of almost any other group, if fired or chided or slighted, can call in napalm strikes from federal, state, and local regulators with very deep pockets. You need not even prove the intent to discriminate. An accidental “disparate impact” is enough to win a fat legal judgment.

White Males Need Not Apply

When I got my Ph.D. in English lit, I didn’t even bother to apply for a teaching job. Every single job posting I saw explicitly said that it was especially looking for nonwhites and women. They might as well have read, “No Irish Need Apply.” But that was all perfectly legal.

Let’s leave the workplace and look at colleges. Aren’t fraternities the constant focus of attacks by school administrators and muckraking journalists? Harvard is trying to quash the last few all-male clubs on campus. Most of the all-male colleges in America have been made co-ed under pressure. All-female schools still survive because they claim to serve a feminist goal: forging female leaders, without the “suppressive” presence of men.

Freedom of Association: A Basic Human Right

Freedom of association, a crucial liberty, has been eaten away by laws aimed at forcing equal outcomes. Isn’t it chilling that discrimination attorneys want to force Vice President Pence to renounce the pact he made with his wife to honor their marriage? That EEOC bureaucrats could dictate with whom he socializes in his off-hours?

(Don’t miss, by the way, this eloquent piece by a woman who once worked for Pence describing what a dreamboat, fair-minded boss he was.)

Yet feminists like Grossman have no problem at all intruding into the intimate details of a marriage. Not if it serves the higher purpose of promoting equality, by bashing once-dominant groups.

Freedom of association is a basic human right. Like the right to own firearms, it can be abused. But that’s no excuse for the state wiping it out entirely.

It’s really galling to pick out just one group of citizens and say that this group, unlike every other, won’t have this right. Once Jim Crow states used gun control laws to disarm ex-slaves. Now leftists use anti-discrimination laws to make white males into second-class citizens.

Just Let Them Die of Despair?

Yes, we want to stop real workplace bias. But how can we justify stripping just one group of people (men, or whites, or especially white men) of a basic human right? Perhaps it’s no accident that the least-privileged members of this group are now suffering an epidemic of “deaths of despair,” while leftists shrug or snicker.

Freedom of association is a basic human right. Like the right to own firearms.

Social justice warriors don’t care about human rights for individual humans — just evening the score for past sins committed by the long-dead. As Christians, we don’t want to see angry, race-based groups like the Alt-Right advance in America. To prevent that pushback, we all need the state to back down and stop intruding on every human interaction — from college boys playing foosball to the Pences protecting their vows.


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  • Autrey Windle

    This would surprise who coming from vox? Females who think marital fidelity is a fault in men are not real women. That chick can have all the boys in men suits she wants and go to 3 meals a day with them and hope somebody’s wife doesn’t show up at her lunch with a grudge and a gun…

  • missy

    Mike Pence and his wife are decent people with a good marriage — something to be treasured and rarely found in Washington, DC. VOX and company should MYOB — leave them alone. Who cares what the bizarre lefties think and write exaggerated lies about (I guess some attention is better than nothing)? Many of the brazen leftie libs have an outrageous, senseless and shocking opinion on everyone and everything except themselves. Be careful libs, what goes around comes around ……

  • Gary

    Liberals literally HATE freedom of association FOR OTHERS. Of course, they demand freedom of association for themselves.

    If it is illegal for employers to have a meal with an employee, or go fishing with an employee, etc., the solution is for employers to DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING with employees socially. Treat all employees like they have a highly contagious disease away from work. You might go so far as to refuse to talk with them on the phone, lest you be accused by some empty-headed, hateful liberal that you have broken the law.

  • Jim Walker

    Liberals morality is non-existent and they are like weeds swaying by the direction of the wind.
    They will say its sexual harassment when a man compliments a woman, “You looked lovely tonight”, but say its sexist when people like pence made a personal decision not to have a meal with a woman other than his wife.

  • lighthouseseeker

    I’m humbled by your bold stand, Vice President and Mrs Pence, I know the benefits of the stand you have taken. I am awed by your willingness to be models of righteousness in a city which has very little to offer in Light and Life.

  • James

    The philosophy of the left is no more than warmed-over Marxism. There is no male or female, no human nature, no differences between cultures, no meaningful philosophy or religion, only power. The only thing that matters is who has it and who doesn’t.

    Furthermore, these neo-Marxists believe that everyone thinks the way that they do. Discussions of sex, human nature, philosophy, religion, etc., are merely distractions from the real motivation which is about acquiring and preserving power. Marxist literary and historical criticism is entirely about stripping these “distractions” away to view literature and history primarily in terms of power dynamics.

    In the case of Pence, men have power that women do not. Therefore, a just society requires that this power be taken from the powerful and given to the less powerful. Because there is no male or female nor human nature, Pence’s policies are not seen as prudent, they are seen as being a way of unjustly keeping women from power.

  • m-nj

    i RARELY have a closed door meeting with my female employees at the office to avoid the appearance of anything that could be construed wrongly and to protect THEIR honor as well… i can’t imagine being forced to have a full dinner, alone, away from the office, with one of them all in the name of “equality”.

  • Christian Cowboy

    People who appear to have much worse illegal actions get a pass – why all the noise about a man that honors his marriage and commitment to his wife? I don’t have dinner with another woman unless my wife is along and the other woman is always one of her friends. Marriages are in trouble all over America because we have given in to the lie that appearances and actions don’t matter.

  • Louise C

    Whenever a person takes a stand for righteousness, the devil and his followers get agitated.

  • Richard McArthur

    That attorney probably did quite well on tests.
    Not so well in real life. He’d have to show Pence had business meals with male subordinates. Probably couldn’t.

  • Joan Loughran

    I hope the left keep this type of insanity going….when enough people see their mental imbalance,

  • ARB

    Even aside from how ridiculous this is, under what situation does employment demand that you have meals alone with anyone? The *assumption* that this must be a problem implies a rather bizarre perspective on the accouterments of employment on the part of the accuser.

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