Planned Parenthood Execs Discuss Grisly Procedures in New Undercover Video

"The fetus is a tough little object and, taking it apart ... is very difficult."

Screen grab from the Center for Medical Progress' most recent undercover video.

By Liberty McArtor Published on May 25, 2017

“I might ask for a second set of forceps to hold the body at the cervix, and pull off a leg, or two, so it’s not PBA [partial-birth abortion].” That’s Dr. Ann Schutt-Aine, recorded in a new Center for Medical Progress (CMP) video released Thursday. She’s Director of Abortion Services at Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast.

CMP is known for its undercover journalism exposing the illegal practices of Planned Parenthood and its affiliates. Journalists David Daleidan and Sandra Merritt first exposed Planned Parenthood’s profiting off fetal tissue in 2015. Daleiden is also the president of CMP. Both Daleiden and Merritt have been charged in California with 15 felony counts for recording people without their permission. 

Their newest video previews footage taken in 2014 and 2015 at the National Abortion Federation conferences. According to CMP, “NAF hosts a secretive, annual meeting trade show every year in April.” Planned Parenthood makes up about 50 percent of the group’s members and leaders, the video says. 

Shortly after the video’s release Thursday, a federal judge ordered it be removed. U.S. District Judge William Orrick had reportedly barred Daleiden from releasing the footage. After links to the new video appeared on the website of Daleiden and Merritt’s legal counsel, Orrick threatened to hold Daleiden in contempt. While the video can no longer be found on YouTube, you can view it here.

Daledian and Merritt’s legal counsel did not respond to The Stream’s request for comment.

‘Pull Off a Leg, Or Two’

Warning: Quotes below are graphic and will be troubling to some.

The video shows Planned Parenthood leaders discussing in gruesome detail abortion procedures, such as tearing babies apart limb by limb. Schutt-Aine describes how she keeps her abortions from becoming partial birth abortions, since the procedure is illegal.

Partial birth abortions remove a living baby’s entire, intact body from the womb, except for its head. The baby is then killed by the abortionist puncturing the base of his skull. His brains are sucked out, the skull collapsed, and the dead baby then delivered.

“If I’m doing a procedure, and I’m seeing that I’m in fear that it’s about to come to the umbilicus [navel],” says Schutt-Anne, she holds the child’s body at the cervix and kills him there. She has to kill him before his body up to the neck passes the cervix.

“Let’s just give them all the violence, it’s a person, it’s killing, let’s just give them all that.”

Another Planned Parenthood official, Dr. Deborah Nucatola, describes how she performs abortions when a research partner requests a brain.

“We’ll, you know, leave the calvarium [skull] in until last, and then try to basically … catch everything and even keep it separate from the rest of the tissue so it doesn’t get lost.” Nucatola is the Senior Director of Medical Services at Planned Parenthood Federation of America. (She is also the woman seen in the first CMP video casually feasting on salad and red wine while discussing the ripping apart of babies.)

‘Financial Incentive’

Once again, subjects in the video seem to admit that abortion clinics often profit from selling fetal tissue.

“But the truth is that some might want to do it for, to increase their revenues,” said Deb Van Derhei. “And we can’t stop them.” Van Derhei is the National Director for the Consortium of Abortion Providers at Planned Parenthood Federation of America.

Another Planned Parenthood official indicated her superiors “will be very happy about” the “financial incentive” from a potential buyer.

“I know Planned Parenthood sells a lot of stuff to people,” said Dr. Paul Blumenthal. He’s a medical director for Planned Parenthood of Maryland.

“I know Planned Parenthood sells a lot of stuff to people.”

CMP’s first video in 2015 sparked a nationwide uproar after it exposed Planned Parenthood executives discussing monetary compensation from research companies for fetal tissue. Multiple videos have followed since.

The footage, obtained by Daleiden and Merritt, caused both Congressional houses to investigate Planned Parenthood. According to Rep. Diane Black of the House panel, the investigation “laid bare the grisly reality” that abortionists are “driven by profit.”

Since then both Daleiden and Merritt have faced felony charges. Most recently the state of California charged them with 15 felonies for their undercover recordings. On Thursday with the release of the newest video, law firm Steve Cooley and Associates (SCA) announced its legal defense of the two.

Daleiden and his attorneys, Steve Cooley and Brentford Ferreira, have been ordered to appear in court on June 14 while Orrick considers contempt sanctions after Daleiden released the latest video Thursday.

‘It’s a Person, It’s Killing, Let’s Just Give Them All That’

Several more quotes from the video make clear why Planned Parenthood and the National Abortion Association fought so hard in court, and called on their political allies, to crush CMP’s efforts to make these videos public. They are damning.

Dr. Lisa Harris, Medical Director, Planned Parenthood of Michigan (during panel discussions):

Our stories don’t really have a place in a lot of pro-choice discourse and rhetoric, right? The heads that get stuck that we can’t get out. [Laughter] The hemorrhages that we manage. You know, those are all parts of our experience. But there’s no real good place for us to share those.

[Later]

Given that we actually see the fetus the same way, and given that we might actually both agree that there’s violence in here, ask me why I come to work everyday. Let’s just give them all the violence, it’s a person, it’s killing, let’s just give them all that.

Dr. Susan Robinson, Planned Parenthood Mar Monte:

The fetus is a tough little object and, taking it apart, I mean taking it apart, on day one, is very difficult.

[Later]

You go in there, and you go, “Am I getting the uterus, or the fetus? Oh good fetus. [Stabbing/grunting sound] What have I got? Nothing. Let’s try again.”

Dr. Uta Landy, founder of PPFA’s Consortium of Abortion Providers (during a panel discussion):

An eyeball just fell down into my lap, and that’s gross!” [Laughter].

Laughter. Think about that. They laugh.


 

For more information on the case and how to assist The Center for Medical Progress, please visit their website at www.centerformedicalprogress.org or follow them on Twitter at @CtrMedProgress. Information can also be found at stevecooley.com/media.

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  • Timothy Horton

    Medical procedures are generally gross and icky to non-medically trained people. When you have no facts to support your opinions better go for the non-thinking emotional appeal.

    • Charles Burge

      Gross and icky doesn’t even begin do describe pulling arms and legs off of living human beings. If that isn’t shocking to you then your heart is completely calloused.

    • m-nj

      I totally agree with Charles… if you are unmoved when people laugh when someone says, “The heads that get stuck that we can’t get out.” or “An eyeball just fell down into my lap” when talking about dismemberment of human beings, then you are as close to heartless as can be without being an all out psychopath or sociopath.

    • MargaretSwain

      You heard the woman. It’s not a “medical procedure” it’s a “killing”.

    • Dallas Yu

      Medical procedure is a clinical term used to distance yourself from the fact people are dismembering another human being that’s in infancy while they’re laughing about it.
      There’s no emotion to that. That’s the fact of what occurred and what you’re doing now.

    • Timothy Horton

      Heh. I see a number of the non-thinking pearl clutchers had exactly the hair-on-fire-emotional response the Liars For Jesus who made the propaganda videos were hoping for. They don’t call you people “sheep” for nothing.

      • LgVt

        “Non-thinking pearl clutchers”? “Liars for Jesus”?

        Every attempt that has been made to debunk these videos has failed. The complete raw footage is publicly available. Not only did Coalfire’s analysis of the unedited footage confirm CMP’s claims, even the “analysis” Planned Parenthood commissioned–which did NOT examine the unedited footage–admitted there was no tampering.

        Meanwhile, what you’re mocking as a “hair-on-fire emotional response” is the visceral and natural reaction to you dismissing infanticide by way of dismemberment as a “gross and icky” “medical procedure.

        • Timothy Horton

          Doesn’t your house stink from the smell of all that burning hair?

          Have you figured out yet that sex between virgin gays doesn’t cause STDs to magically appear?

          • LgVt

            Dude. Seriously. You keep bringing this up, as if your claim that two gay man can ever safely have sex without a condom makes you look good. There’s nothing “magical” about what happens when you abuse the body like that.

            And in the meantime, seeing as you didn’t bother to answer anything I said, I’ll take that as a tacit admission that you have no response.

          • Timothy Horton

            You keep bringing this up,

            You’re the moron who claimed sex by virgin gays causes STDs. I see it as a public service to make everyone aware of your brutal scientific ignorance every time you go off on another anti-gay rant.

            How long does it take your burned off hair to grow back?

          • LgVt

            Okay. Three points, and then I’m done with this waste of time.

            1) Every time you bring this old argument up, you’re once again claiming that two gay men can safely have unprotected sex if they’re virgins. Exactly whose “brutal scientific ignorance” do you think you’re making people aware of, here?

            2) “Anti-gay rant”? This is a thread about abortion.

            3) And once again, I repeat–as usual, you have not responded to any of the points I have made. Unless and until you prove otherwise, I will take this and proclaim this as a tacit admission on your part that you can’t respond, because you have no response.

          • Timothy Horton

            Maybe now you’ll learn some basic biology that sex between virgins doesn’t cause STDs.

            I don’t need to respond because you didn’t make any coherent points. It was the usual wailing and teeth gnashing and hysterical OMG! OMG! BABY MURDERERS!!!

            You’ll always be a brainless sheep.

      • Casper

        Why don’t you try to deny the actual comments made in this video? Have you watched it? Can you discuss how the butchers describe tearing the limbs off?

        • Timothy Horton

          How should medical people speak when talking shop among themselves in private? What words should they use as not to offend your delicate sensibilities?

          • Casper

            Trying to imagine OB/GYNs describing a labor like that, in case of a stillbirth. Trying to imagine a pediatrician, or any pediatric specialist, like cardio, neuro, describing a situation so callously.
            Besides – – it’s just a clump of cells, right? So how does it have a brain / liver / eyeball? Hmmm, I wonder what SCIENCE SAYS?!

          • Timothy Horton

            Science and the law both say a fetus isn’t a person until it is viable without heroic measures outside the womb. That’s generally around the 27th to 28th week.

            You’d probably have a conniption fit if you heard some of the off-color banter done during surgery by the doctors and nurses while the patient is under anesthesia.

          • Casper

            Wrong again. Laws vary WIDELY on fetal protection, and how a fetus is protected by law. “Currently, at least 38 states have fetal homicide
            laws. At least 23 states have fetal homicide laws that apply to the earliest stages of pregnancy (“any state of gestation,” “conception,” “fertilization” or “post-fertilization”).”

            I wonder what “it” is then, found in the uterus of a pregnant woman, has arms, legs, liver, brain, what could it be – – Timothy? Hmmm, I guess it’s a just a clump of cells.
            I know that medical personnel “vent” with some grisly humor at times – – but who the hell says that in a conference setting?! About a very controversial issue – – how stupid are these people?

          • Timothy Horton

            I know that medical personnel “vent” with some grisly humor at times – – but who the hell says that in a conference setting?!

            This wasn’t a public presentation at a conference. It was an illegally recorded private conversation between medical personnel who work in the field. You seem to keep overlooking that inconvenient fact.

          • Casper

            “Their newest video previews footage taken in 2014 and 2015 at the National Abortion Federation conferences.”

          • Timothy Horton

            They were physically at the conferences. In a back room holding a private conversation among themselves. Not publically addressing the conferences.

            How deep into the denial pit are you going to slither?

          • Casper

            Did you see them at the table presenting that they have no place to share when the head gets lost?!
            Did you watch it?!

    • Nobody Specific

      My mother worked a surgical nurse, a psychiatric nurse, a pediatric nurse, and in ultimately in elder care. I can assure you she has seen just about every kind of gross and icky, there is. I have heard stories about some of the terrible things she saw and had to deal with. As a trained experienced medical professional she still described them with terms like gross.

      One thing I have never heard her do is laugh about her patients or their suffering. She did her job and met her calling to care for others. Their plight did not remove their dignity in her eyes. I won’t show her this video, because I know that, she would find this people’s behavior monstrous, she would be outraged they consider themselves medical practitioners. She does not need the stress.

      • Timothy Horton

        An aborted fetus isn’t a patient and it isn’t suffering. Fetal brain and nervous system don’t develop that capability until the 3rd trimester. Keep that emotional hysteria train rolling.

        • Nobody Specific

          Except the most recent science is that, that isn’t true. At eights weeks there is an adult like nervous layout. There is now plenty of ultrasound video to show babies struggling to avoid being needled before the third trimester.

          Now you are just a science denier.

          • Casper

            He has no reply about denying science now, does he?

          • Timothy Horton

            Wrong. Read the actual scientific results above.

          • Casper

            Wrong – – you don’t get to decide who is a person. Science does. Pretty sure if fetus has an eyeball to begin with, fetus is a person.

          • Timothy Horton

            Now you’re just lying about the science. It always comes down to that with you True Believers, doesn’t it?

          • Nobody Specific

            Pain is “an emotional and psychological experience that requires conscious recognition of a noxious stimulus.”

            Sounds like a definition an apologist would pick. So if you happen to be unconscious for whatever reason I can do whatever I like to you because you can’t experience pain at that moment? Does that sound right to you?

            Whatever your specific definition of pain happens to be it does not change the fact that we are not talking about a clump of cells here, its a being that already responds to stimulus and attempts self preservation. Don’t misconstrue that statement as me offering as some kind of criteria required to justify its existence either. My point is we are not talking about some amorphous thing, we are talking about a tiny little person.

            “most neuroscientists believe that the cortex is necessary for pain perception” – most people once thought the world was flat too. What if you are wrong?

          • Timothy Horton

            I posted scientific findings accepted by two of the most prestigious OB-GYN organizations in the world which directly contradict your claims. All you can do is wave your hands and deny. Whine some more about who is a science denier.

          • GLT

            Timothy,

            “most people once thought the world was flat too.”

            Time to drop this argument. A few people maybe thought the Earth was flat but it was never very many. Eratosthenes demonstrated it was round in the 4th century BC.

            “A human fetus does not have the capacity to experience pain until after viability.”

            So the experience of pain is the only determining factor as to whether or not abortion is the killing of a human being? Would that then mean someone who suffers from nerve issues and cannot feel pain is not protected from harm on that basis? You must learn to take these arguments to their logical conclusions. It’s irrelevant whether or not the fetus feels pain, it is a human being and deserves protection under the law.

            Penguins vs Predators. That has a nice ‘survival of the fittest’ ring to it, don’t you think? Not sure yet who I am going to pull for, but one thing is for sure, there will be a lot of yellow on the screen. 🙂

          • GLT

            Timothy,

            “A human fetus does not have the capacity to experience pain until after viability.”

            Is the ability to feel pain the determining factor as to whether the fetus is human or not? I know you know better than that, so let’s not use that argument. Science has clearly determined that life begins at conception regardless of what lawmakers might determine. So the question becomes, which argument do we accept, the scientific or the legal?

            Penguins vs Predators; has a nice ‘survival of the fittest ring to it, don’t you think? Not sure who I am going to be pulling for but one thing is for sure, there will be lots of yellow on the screen. 🙂

          • Timothy Horton

            Hey nic 🙂

            Actually life began over 3.5 billion years ago. The sperm and egg are just as alive one second before conception as the fertilized egg one second after. The question is when do we define the life to be a person worthy of individual rights. Both science and the law say after the fetus is viable outside the womb, around 27th-28th week.

            I don’t know who to pull for this time. The Pens Sens Game 7 was an epic – I hated to see either team lose. I guess I’ll root for Nashville because the Pens already have a few rings, plus I’ve always liked the flamboyance of Subban. It is going to look like attack of the giant yellow tweety birds. 🙂

          • GLT

            Timothy,

            “The sperm and egg are just as alive one second before conception as the fertilized egg one second after.”

            The sperm and the egg are living cells, but they are not a human being and therein lies the difference. As for science, it conclusively proves life begins at conception, period. You have to engage in linguistic gymnastics to argue against that fact. As for the law, that varies according to jurisdiction and as such is purely subjective in nature.

            The fetus will be human, it will never be anything else. Therefore, individual rights must extend to the fetus from the very beginning. To argue otherwise is to proceed down the slippery slope of sanctioning the killing of the already born child. That slope is already being trod by some ethicists and philosophers.

            I am leaning Nashville’s way as well, mostly because I would like to see long serving Mike Fisher get a ring. Kessel got his last year. Yes, game 7 was amazing and I am glad it was a clean goal that won it. It was scored by a Regina boy to make it even better.:) I was very impressed with Erik Karlsson. I saw him play live last fall and he was amazing to watch. Sometimes on TV you do not see things like you do when you are in the stands. Things like how a guy plays away from the puck. It’s his play away from the puck that really emphasizes how good he is.

  • m-nj

    Any deep-pocket pro-life conservatives who can pay to get these videos out on major TV networks?

    I recall going to a showing of Silent Scream in the 1990s. A group of young ladies came in to “protest” the movie, wearing coat hangers on their heads. After the movie was over, they left in silence, heads down.

    Exposing the truth of what abortion REALLY is – violent murder, by dismemberment in most cases – has amazing power to change hearts and minds.

    • Kontbe Doxt

      KRAZY how at 8:11pm CST the video is…… gone…… Freedom of speech?

  • AvgJoe

    Tax payer funder depravity

  • Kontbe Doxt

    Annnd the video is at 8:11PM CST GONE. Vaporized by the Utube censorship gremlins…… Gone. bye bye. nothing to see here……. moving right along…….

    • Timothy Horton

      The Liars for Jesus who produced these propaganda videos are under criminal indictment for their illegal taping without the subjects’ permission. Do you think the illegal and dishonest videos are going to be allowed to be distributed in public? I hope today’s little stunt nets them a few extra years in prison.

      • Billy Chickens

        You mean the Heroes for Jesus. But then, no, you probably don’t because you like to think of babies torn asunder. It just tickles you no end to think of the killing.

        • Timothy Horton

          LOL! Another sheep with his hair, I mean wool, on fire.

          • Billy Chickens

            So you do like the killing. Admit it. Because that’s the only reason you ridicule people who know it’s killing. If you don’t then it would be OK with you that I, say, walk down the street and kill everyone with a gun. It would be OK for me to run over people with my car…oh wait…the Muslims are already doing tat. But I know that you would approve of, right? Because you love the killing and all.

          • Timothy Horton

            You’re an idiot. Go pound sand with your hysterics.

          • Billy Chickens

            I see you have no answer, so I won. You love killing as all atheists do. Atheists live to kill. You’re the hysterical one now because you’re irate that you had no answer but a petty 10 year old’s playground grumble, tossed over your shoulder, as you walk away defeated, your head hung low.

          • Timothy Horton

            LOL! Yeah, you won. Go pick your nose some more and keep being a VICIOUS KILLER!!

          • Billy Chickens

            Since you hate vicious killers so much why do you love abortionists?

          • Timothy Horton

            Why do you love being a vicious killer?

          • Billy Chickens

            Excuse me, but you’re the vicious killer since you’re an atheist. Atheists love killing. So walking around killing people must be OK with you. Why are you angry with me? Since killing babies is fine with you we should all have equal rights to kill. It’s only fair.

          • SophieA

            Touche! Well played.

          • Timothy Horton

            You’re the vicious killer. Why do you love killing so much?

          • Shaquille Harvey

            Since you state this, you do realise that we are all just cells. Since you also don’t believe in absolute morality, as well as taking this all into consideration why is it bad for one clump of cells to kill another ? Where do get the notion to kill a clump of cells is bad ? Where do yo get the notion that anything is wrong?

  • 2easy4most

    Why all the outrage? We all know a fetus is not a baby; it’s just a ‘clump of cells’ – oh with legs, arms, a skull, brains, eyeballs etc. when is this ‘clump of cells’ myth going to go away?

  • SophieA

    “I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever.” Jefferson’s words should stir our nation to repentance of this most horrific and disgraceful national sin.

  • The YouTube video is gone. Have you an alternate link?

    • Liberty McArtor

      Updated the story this morning with a new link. See 4th paragraph.

      • Timothy Horton

        Good. These A-hat Liars for Jesus and their illegal propaganda videos think they’re above the law. Guess they’re going to have to learn the hard way.

    • fderf

      Life Site News has a copy.

  • williampenn

    What kind of barbaric, deranged animals are these so-called “doctors” at Planned Parenthood? Sounds like they take absolute joy in pulling apart little bodies. These people should be caged to protect humanity.

  • blackfeather

    these cretins should be made to eat what they “cut up”.

    • fderf

      In some countries, they do.

  • khoregon

    “This item has been deleted because of a possible violation of our terms of service!”

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    “…3. Every problem America faces today can be traced back to the fact that the framers failed to expressly establish a government upon Yahweh’s immutable morality as codified in His commandments, statutes, and judgments. (Would infanticide and sodomy be tolerated, let alone financed by the government, if Yahweh’s perfect law and altogether righteous judgments were the law of the land? Would Islam be a looming threat to our peace and security if the First Amendment had been replaced with the First Commandment? Would Americans be in nearly as much debt if usury had been outlawed as a form of theft? Would crime be as rampant if “cruel and unusual punishment” had not been outlawed and criminals were instead punished with Yahweh’s altogether righteous judgments? Would we be on the fiscal cliff if we were taxed with a flat increase tax rather than a graduated income tax?)….

    “On February 27, 2009, James Dobson conceded that we have lost the culture wars. This is the consequence of Christians [including Dr. Dobson] having spent the last two centuries lopping at the rotten branches of our culture’s corrupt tree while watering and fertilizing its roots.

    “We should lop away at the tree’s corrupt branches (infanticide, sodomy, the economy, etc.). However, until the root of these problems is Biblically addressed, we will never shut down the infanticide mills, we will never defeat the sodomites, and we will never fix the economy. In short, we will never win the culture wars. This issue is more than important for anyone concerned about God, our nation, and the future of our posterity, it’s the cutting- edge issue of our day…..”

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