Actor Jim Carrey: ‘Suffering Leads to Salvation’

By Nancy Flory Published on July 25, 2017

Pointing to the example of Jesus, actor Jim Carrey told former inmates and gang members at Homeboy Industries last month that “Suffering leads to salvation.” He drove his point home, adding, “In fact, it’s the only way.” He could have been talking about himself. Carrey lost a former girlfriend to suicide in 2015 and now is being sued by her mother and ex-husband for her death.

Carrey’s Encouragement

Homeboy Industries “provides hope, training, and support” to those who had been in gangs and prison. Carrey briefly spoke to the group, providing encouragement. “I believe this room is filled with God,” he said, “and that you are heroes to me and I admire you.” He added that when they stepped through the doors they made a decision to “transcend” their backgrounds and to “leave darkness behind.” He told them, “It takes a champion to make that decision.”

“I’ve had some challenges in the last couple of years myself,” he added. “Ultimately, I believe that suffering leads to salvation. In fact, it’s the only way. We have to somehow accept, not deny, but feel our suffering and feel our losses. And then we make one of two decisions. We either decide to go through the gate of resentment, which leads to vengeance, which leads to self harm, which leads to harm to others, or we go through the gate of forgiveness, which leads to grace.”

Carrey’s challenges from the past two years include his ex-girlfriend’s suicide. In 2015, shortly after they broke up, Cathriona White took her own life. White’s mother and ex-husband now accuse him of supplying White with the medication she used to kill herself. Both are now suing Carrey in civil court. A trial date has been set for April 26, 2018. Even with the trial looming, Carrey encouraged the crowd around him.

Blessing People With Your Work

“Your being here is an indication that you’ve made that decision already. You’ve made the decision to walk through the gate of forgiveness, to grace — just as Christ did on the cross,” he continued.

He suffered terribly and was broken by it, to the point of doubt and a feeling of absolute abandonment, which all of you have felt. And then there was a decision to be made, and the decision was to look upon the people who were causing that suffering, or the situation that was causing that suffering, with compassion and with forgiveness. And that’s what opens the gates to heaven for all of us.

 

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  • BroFrank

    So the scribe said to Him, “Well said, Teacher. You have spoken the truth, for there is one God, and there is no other but He. And to love Him with all the heart, with all the understanding, with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love one’s neighbor as oneself, is more than all the whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.” Now when Jesus saw that he answered wisely, He said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” But after that no one dared question Him.
    (Mark 12:32-34 )

    —You are not far from the Kingdom, Jim Carey. Love your neighbor—and love God,
    and make Him your Lord (Mark 12:35-37).

  • Jim Walker

    I’d trust my pet cockroach than to trust Jim Carrey.

  • Laura Ann Register

    I am sooo Happy and pleased to know that Mr. Carey is a Child of God’s and he is being used by God to help others learn the True meaning of Love and Forgiveness. I really believe in my heart that the people suing him will either drop the charges against him or the case will be thrown out because he has The Judge and Counselor on his side. But the most important thing of all is that we need to be praying for him about that law suit and trust the Lord to do what is needed to be done about it. I also believe that Mr. Carey has given that situation to Him and is not worried about it. I’m sitting here just thanking the Heavenly Father for what he has done in and for Mr. Carey’s life.

  • Billy Chickens

    As usual with Hollywood stars, it’s all about them. Didn’t Carrey joke about killing President Trump? Didn’t he defend Kathy Griffin after her vile “Trump beheaded” stunt?

    • john appleseed

      Yes, he did.
      Carrey may be a new convert who needs to learn a LOT, or …
      He may be acting (he’s pretty good at that) now to get good press during his scandals, & to impress the judge.
      We don’t know.

  • LYoung

    How wonderful that Mr. Carey’s hard times have led him to Christ and a new life. May God protect him and draw him into the Word of God as he shares with others. And I pray that he will be vindicated of false charges.

    • Hannah

      Seriously, yeah! My jaw hit the floor when I saw that title. Of all the people in the world, he was one of the last ones I’d ever count amongst God’s children, given his history. So glad to (hopefully) be wrong!

    • Jim Walker

      Here is a statement he said :
      “Carrey argued that Griffin didn’t cross the line — because he said there is no line to cross.
      “It’s the job of the comedian to cross the line at all times,” he told Entertainment Tonight at the premiere. “That line is not real and if you step out into that spotlight and you’re doing the crazy things that [Trump is] doing, we’re the last line of defense. The comedians are the last voice of truth in this whole thing. It’s impossible to get away from it.””
      Kathy Griffins’ severed head was suppose to be a Joke ? Who’s laughing ?
      Comedians are the last line of defense and what ? the last voice of “Truth” ? What utter nonsense…
      Sorry, new found faith ? To me he is faking it like for his whole life. He has no character, or should I say he is “fluid”.
      This man can not be trusted.

      • LYoung

        Time will tell. I remember the days before Jesus set me straight on some bad theology as a brand new believer. That Mr. Carey mentioned Christ on the cross and the forgiveness of sins and Mr. Carey’s humbleness of spirit in that short video shows a different man than we have seen before.

        • Jim Walker

          Until then.

        • Nick

          I agree LYoung, gees, can’t we just give the guy a break? He’s in that space talking about grace, sanctification, redemption and forgiveness essentially. That’s the Gospel story. Something is going on in his life to recognise and speak out those things. Something deeply true and beautiful. Please don’t judge. It doesn’t go well for those that do. Instead, pray for the man. A moment of faith, that’s all it takes. A jealous, chance taking, opportunistic Father will have His own. Pretty sure the thief on the cross didn’t have his doctrine all worked out. Just a moment of acknowledgment. That’s all.

    • Andrew Mason

      Try listening to the video. Based on what he said Carey has not been led to God, and does not follow Christianity. What he preaches is pantheism and Eastern views.

      • Because he doesn’t understand the theological points and therefore his language is off, you’re saying the grace he obviously receieved is irrelevant?

        • Andrew Mason

          No what I’m saying is Carey hasn’t received grace because he doesn’t comprehend what that means. The fact someone uses Christian terminology in no way requires them to be a Christian. Satan for instance is completely familiar with Scripture and can use it to suit his purposes. Likewise Hitler referenced Christianity on numerous occasions. Now don’t think I’m suggesting Carey is evil like those two, but if they can misuse Christian terminology anyone can.

          • Yes you are saying it. He didn’t use the correct theological language. So what.

          • Andrew Mason

            You don’t appear to be comprehending what I’m saying so I’ll try again. The issue is not whether the grace Carey has received is relevant, the issue is whether Carey has received grace at all. The fact that Carey’s theological language is so defective as to portray a god (casing intentional) at odd’s with the God of the Bible is important. If we are god – which is what Carey said in his explanation of omnipresence, then Carey cannot be worshiping the God of the Bible. If suffering is the way to salvation, then Jesus is irrelevant, and there’s no need to be concerned about the God of the Bible. From what I can tell Carey is preaching the message of Eastern religion using Christian terminology. Just because there are terms in common doesn’t mean the message is remotely the same.

          • You don’t appear to understand what you’re saying. Yes, you are rejecting him for his incorrect theological language. I have no idea who gave you the power to read other’s hearts. Both Matthew and Luke quote Christ: “do not judge.” Maybe you ought to head that.

          • Andrew Mason

            I understand what I’m saying you don’t appear to be grasping my points, or at least you aren’t responding to them.

            As for your judgment reference, Christ said to judge – John 7:24
            Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.

            Or how about 1 Corinthians 2:14-15
            The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. the spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one.

            Or 1 Thessalonians 5:21
            but test everything; hold fast what is good.

            Yes Jesus said do not judge, but that has to be taken in context since He also said do judge. The difference appears to be whether we are rushing to damn someone, or seeking to distinguish between righteousness and error. In this case I believe it is error to claim Carey is preaching Christianity since his message opposes what the Bible teaches. Can I see into his heart? No of course not, all I can do is assess his words and deeds for conformity to Scripture. Even the best of Christians fails to mimic Christ’s example, but there is I think a difference between failure to succeed, and promoting a message drastically at odds to what the Bible teaches.

            Since you raised the point of being unable to see into Carey’s heart, what makes you think he is preaching a Christian message as opposed to a New Age message, or Eastern religion repackaged in Christian language? How does focusing on suffering or pantheism (Carey’s omnipresence) propound Christianity?

            You have leapt to the judgement that Carey has found grace, but what words or deeds do you base that judgement on?

          • Oh pulease. You’re judging by appearances. Enough. I’ve got insight into your heart.

          • Andrew Mason

            You’ve insight into my heart? God alone knows a person’s heart. Oh! Sorry it helps to include a tag when you’re not being serious. Apologies for not realising sooner but I assumed your disinclination to address the points I’d raised a matter of style not intent.

          • Get lost.

          • Andrew Mason

            Why? This is a public forum where we may debate news items. LYoung made an initial post, I pointed out flaws in her logic, and you seem to have taken umbrage. I’ve given my reasoning for my position in various posts, you’ve contradicted yourself in various posts, and are now resorting to rudeness. Remember this is a public forum.

  • Andrew Mason

    Does Carey follow God, or god? His Wikipedia page says the while he was raised Catholic he practices transcendental meditation. Elsewhere he’s said that he identifies as Buddhist, Christian, Muslim, or whatever others want him to be – it’s all the same thing, you’re either loving or unloving. And the emphasis on personal suffering leading to salvation sounds like works rather than faith to me. Later in the video Carey says omnipresence means every cell in your body is god, everything is divine. That’s not Christianity, that’s pantheism. Really not quite sure why this article got published unless intended as an example of confused theology?

    • Az1seeit

      I too am surprised to see this article at the Stream, I kept waiting for the “but…” While I understand the desire to see a soul come to saving grace, it’s even more surprising anyone believes this could indicate he’s converted. This isn’t the gospel of the incarnate Jesus Christ. its disturbing they do not recognize the new age pantheistic rhetoric. Theological illiteracy is dangerous.

      • Wayne Cook

        So is human judgment.

  • Pigdowndog

    ““Ultimately, I believe that suffering leads to salvation. In fact, it’s the only way.”
    Exactly the same vile nonsense that the nasty old bat Mother Teresa spouted.

    • Billy Chickens

      I can’t believe that no one replied to this vile attack against Saint Teresa of Calcutta, therefore I will. Why would anyone believe anything you say about anything. You show your true colors by your nasty comments about a person who helped other people when they were poor, sick and dying, had no food and no home. I suppose you are so much better a human being than Mother Teresa (now saint Teresa of Calcutta) which is why you feel able to show your apparent superiority by calling her names. You are pathetic. How many people have you helped in your lifetime – besides yourself, that is?

      • Becky

        Amen!

      • Pigdowndog

        “I can’t believe that no one replied to this vile attack against Saint Teresa of Calcutta”
        Possibly because they know the truth about the charlatan of Calcutta.

        “about a person who helped other people when they were poor, sick and dying, had no food and no home. ”
        She did no such thing.
        She was a puppet for the Catholic Church who raked in millions that was used for vanity projects while the sick and dying were denied proper medical care.
        Don’t swallow the Vatican’s propaganda research it for your self.

        “How many people have you helped in your lifetime – besides yourself, that is?”
        You’d be surprised all over again but what I’ve done in my life is irrelevant,
        I’m not “revered” as a saint.

        • Billy Chickens

          You must be a Seventh Day Adventist filled with hatred and lies against the Catholic Church.

          • Pigdowndog

            I’m afraid you’re way off beam.
            I’m a very proud atheist but you’re partly right.
            I hate all religion.
            The “lies” about the Catholic Church though are not really are they?
            Just ask any of the kids that were raped by a Catholic priest or any of the unfortunates who were in the “care” of that old bat of Calcutta.

          • Billy Chickens

            But how could you possibly hate Islam, the religion of love of all mankind and peace for everyone?

          • Pigdowndog

            I appreciate the sarcasm in your comment but I do hate the ideology of Islam but don’t run away with the idea that Christianity is free from guilt in that area.
            It’s been, and still is, just as bloodthirsty and hate filled as the present fairy tale thorn in the side of reality..
            John 8:7

          • Billy Chickens

            You equate religion with the sins of its people who are fallen human beings. However one needs to look at the opposite theologies (of Christianity and Islam) to appreciate that one generates from God (Christianity) while the other (Islam) generates from the devil. It isn’t Christianity that is the “fairy tale thorn in the side of reality” but Satan who is the “reality” thorn in the side of God’s creation and His teachings for man and woman on how to live life.

          • Pigdowndog

            “However one needs to look at the opposite theologies (of Christianity and Islam) to appreciate that one generates from God (Christianity) while the other (Islam) generates from the devil.”
            How does that work given that both Christians and Muslims worship the same god?

            “It isn’t Christianity that is the “fairy tale thorn in the side of reality””
            Christianity is just as vile in its ideology as Islam.
            By the way, Satan much like god, doesn’t exist.

          • Billy Chickens

            You know nothing about religion. Christians and Muslims obviously do not worship the same God. Yes, God does exist. But believe what you want – no one is forcing you to believe anything. It’s no use trying to make a blind man see.

          • Pigdowndog

            “You know nothing about religion. Christians and Muslims obviously do not worship the same God. ”
            Typical theist!
            With that statement all you’ve done is advertise the fact that it’s you that doesn’t even know the basics about the “god” you’re in awe of.
            Muslims do worship the same deity as you do and that’s a fact. Google is your friend.

            “But believe what you want – no one is forcing you to believe anything.”
            I believe what can be demonstrated and not supposed.

            “It’s no use trying to make a blind man see”
            In your case that’s very true.

  • faithful

    Pray for Jim, that he would certainly know Jesus Christ, Our Lord and Savior and the Love of the Father, it looks like he is on a journey and the enemy would like otherwise…

    • Wayne Cook

      Far from the mockery he used to indulge.

  • Patmos

    “Suffering leads to salvation.” He drove his point home, adding, “In fact, it’s the only way.”

    So, Christ didn’t suffer for us?

    Okay yes, I get the clarification he made, sort of. It’s nice that he did not turn to resentment, but that’s not salvation, that’s just not turning to resentment.

  • Eric

    “Let us understand that God is a physician, and that suffering is a medicine for salvation. Not a punishment for damnation.” St. Augustine

  • Howard Rosenbaum

    Well, to read some of the previous comments you’d think Mr Carrey was being critiqued by the commission for doctrinal purity. Sure scriptural accuracy is not something to be dismissed. Neither is the journey this prominent personality , comic “genius” & probably very complicated & clearly flawed human being has begun. How perfect is your theology ?
    How much more of a grasp on the fundamentals of the faith have you since discovered? Come on, give this fellow traveler a break. Who of us has not at one time or another needed to be cut some slack ( grace) every now & then ….?

    • Patmos

      If it diminishes the message, which it does, then it needs to be corrected. Not merely for the sake of correction, but so that the fruit of true salvation can spring forth. As I said below it’s nice that he did not turn to resentment, instead opting for a spirit of mercy, but that does not equate to being alive to God through Christ. Ignore the reconciliation to God through the death of his son, and you potentially miss out on the much more being saved by his life (Romans 5:10).

      Paul goes over this extensively in his letter to the church at Galatia, or maybe you think the Galatians should have been shown some slack too? By Paul merely showing “grace” by not attempting to correct them in their error?

      • faithntrust

        IMHO, Carrey gave a “talk” appropriate to his audience. He was not being a minister or an evangelist. Isn’t it called ‘planting seeds?

        • Beverly Parker

          Yes. Maybe he said EXACTLY what the Holy Spirit led him to say. He’s a lot more on target than many mainstream “educated” ministers who claim God causes terrible evil in our lives, who would say that suffering is God’s will and idea (don’t even know John 10:10). Let’s just pray for him and keep our doubts to ourselves, shall we?

          • Andrew Mason

            You’re suggesting the Holy Spirit lead Carey to preach a message that directly contradicts Scripture? We are not God, the cells in our body are not part of God. Suffering neither makes us better nor worse it simply is, perhaps a consequence of our sins, perhaps a consequence of God testing us (Job), perhaps to bless others (Jesus etc), or for other reasons. One thing suffering can never be is be a means to salvation – that is through Christ alone. From what I saw in the video Carey was grossly confused about these points and more.

      • Howard Rosenbaum

        Again, Mr Carrey is simply expounding on his views & experience. Theres no compromising the integrity of scripture nor diminishing the redemptive work of The Christ. When & if this guy should ever get behind a pulpit & proffer another gospel,then your point would be appropriate. Seems to me he’s heading in a better direction than perhaps previous to his “suffering” so called. Meanwhile it brought me a moment of joy that this man may indeed be the developing fruit of those who may have brought his name before the throne …

  • Becky

    People!! If the life and suffering and message and journey of Christ has, in some way, impacted Mr. Carey in a positive way, then who are we all to judge how and when and why, etc.? Can everyone on this thread just lighten up and be glad that the man is even able to talk about our Lord and Savior to encourage others??!! Besides, even Paul referred to some who were preaching he Gospel and didn’t truly know God, but still, Paul rejoiced because the Gospel was being preached…Anyway, let’s not be so narrow-thinking that we miss the point!!

    • Hear, hear. Thank you.

  • Gail Finke

    Wow, that is not the speech I would have expected. It’s really beautiful. Thanks for sharing this.

  • bbb

    Hummn.
    Actually, confession and then changing from sinful ways as a result of Christ’s forgiveness is the Biblical path to salvation.
    Jim Carey is indeed complex, but like Zuckerberg his come-to-Jesus period of time may be more related to other agendas than laying down his life for Christ.
    Time will tell.

  • Facebook User

    Reading his facial expressions and body language—this is the real deal. Jim has had a conversion and is on the road to becoming a Catholic who is in full communion with THE church. Deo gratias.

    • Vee

      Facebook User – I wanted to reply to your comment on the post about pornographic shirts on LifeSite (sorry I followed you here because I was banned from their website). I just wanted to say, don’t be so hard on yourself. It’s very nerve racking confronting people who wear those kinds of shirts. Heck, it’s nerve racking confronting any stranger. Pray for them and that poor baby. My goodness, she should have been taken from her parents for that alone.

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