With North Korea, Don’t Forget the God Factor

Could this be the time for N. Korea’s liberation?

Ethnic Korean christians sing hymns in their half-finished church in the town of Yanji in Yanbian Korean Autonomous Prefecture on the China/North Korea border, 13 October 2006. At the time of this photo, up to 300,000 North Korean refugees were believed to live illegally in the Yanbian region of Jilin province, many of whom risked torture, jailings or execution to escape starvation and oppression in their homeland.

By Michael Brown Published on August 11, 2017

Are we on the edge of a nuclear war, as some near-hysterical pundits claim? Will Kim Jong Un act foolishly? Will he wreak havoc on Japan and S. Korea, only to suffer a devastating response from America? What is that demented dictator thinking? And what are other world leaders thinking, from President Trump to China’s Xi Jinping to Russia’s Putin? What about the military leaders? What are they counseling?

These are all important questions. But there’s another question that, in a sense, is the biggest question of all. And it’s probably the one we forget to ask: What is God doing in the midst of this? What is His plan?

It’s easy to forget that we humans are not the only ones calling the shots. In the midst of the choices we make for good or evil, a sovereign King is carrying out His plan. In the words of Daniel, it is God who “removes kings and sets up kings.” (Dan 2:21) Yes, “all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing; and He does according to His will in the army of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth. And no one can stay His hand or say to Him, ‘What have You done?’” (Dan 4:35)

Should we imagine that this same God is sitting by passively, waiting to see what decisions His earthly creation will make? Or, worse still, should we imagine that He is wringing His hands in despair, worried about what Kim Jong Un and others will do?

Hardly. Instead, He’s at work, be it overtly and covertly, and He has made His plans as well. What might those plans be?

Physical and Spiritual Darkness

I don’t want to disappoint you, but I do not have a direct revelation from heaven right now. Nor can I point to a verse in the Bible that says, “This is the Lord’s plan regarding N. Korea in 2017.”

But I do know that God cares about the souls of lost men and women (Ezek 18:32); that He desires all to come to repentance and know Him (2 Pet 3:9; 1 Tim 2:1-4); and that He hurts when His children are persecuted for the faith (Acts 9:4). This tells me that, whatever else may be going on, the Lord wants to penetrate the darkness of N. Korea so that His light can shine in.

Many of you have seen the satellite image of N. Korea at night, the whole nation in virtual darkness while the surrounding countries are lit up. Well, as it is in the natural, so it is in the spiritual. N. Korea is consistently cited as the most dangerous country in the world for a Christian to live.

The state sponsored persecution is brutal and unrelenting, with whole families imprisoned for the “crime” of Christianity. Stories of executions, torture, and inhuman punishment abound.

The state sponsored persecution is brutal and unrelenting. It’s impossible for a Christian to practice his or her faith in public. The regime imprisons whole families for the “crime” of Christianity. Stories of executions, torture, and inhuman punishment abound.

Yet leaders in S. Korea have told me that, before the Korean War, the majority of Christians were in the northern part of the country. Overall, according to data cited on Wikipedia, as of 1945, “approximately 2% of the population was Christian.”

As of 2014, “about 30% of South Korean population is declared as Christian.” Not only so, but “the influence on education has been decisive as Christians started 293 schools and 40 universities including 3 of the top 5 academic institutions.”

Yet, as this massive awakening has taken place in the South, Christians in the North struggle to survive. They go underground  to endure the ruthless, emperor-worshiping regime.

A Divine Moment for the North Korean Church?

Of course, none of this takes away from the gravity of the moment, with threats and counterthreats coming from Pyongyang and Washington and Beijing and Moscow.

But a higher perspective — a heavenly perspective — reminds us that something more may be going on. Perhaps this might be the divine moment for the Bamboo Curtain to come down. When it does, we might be shocked to see how the Church of N. Korea has survived and perhaps even grown.

I’ve ministered in Asia on more than 40 different occasions, including 12 trips to S. Korea. Last year, I participated in a worship and prayer service held right on the DMZ border. It was a unique experience.

In a few short years after World War II, a once free people found themselves living in an Orwellian nightmare, one they actually believed to be true. 

Naturally, S. Koreans know the danger that lurks to the north, with all its military prowess. That’s one reason that S. Korean Christians pray with such fervor every day. Their lives could literally depend on it.

But they also pray with broken hearts for their extended family to the North, for a people deceived by monstrous lies, a people so cut off from the outside world.

Shortly before one of my trips to Seoul, the founding leader of N. Korea, Kim Il-sung, had just passed away. The nation was in deep mourning for his loss. Men and women wailed for him, as if for a fallen god, and this too broke the hearts of the Christians in the South.

In a few short years after World War II, a once free people found themselves living in an Orwellian nightmare, one they actually believed to be true. It is a modern-day tragedy of epic proportions, and it must grieve the heart of God too.

Could this be the time for N. Korea’s liberation? I pray that it will be so. And perhaps it could happen with a dramatic swiftness that does not leave millions of casualties in its wake.

We can only pray that the will of the Lord be done, whatever that will is. May this be their time of liberation.

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  • LYoung

    Amen, Dr. Brown. May God set people free in North Korea and bring down this evil dictator and regime that worships men.

    • Hannah

      I sincerely hope that the believers in N. Korea get to experience the same freedoms we and their neighbors do. May He work mightily!

  • Karen

    I just adore the cute way “Christians” can rationalize Trump’s foolishness. No, sweetie, playing chicken with nukes — which is what your boy in the White House is doing right now — is not God’s will unless God really does want to slaughter most of humanity. Given your views on salvation, God probably does want us all to die horribly so you call can be entertained with our eternal torture. Seriously, you are the best apostle for atheism I’ve ever read.

    • Howard Rosenbaum

      Wow, your narrative is about as reasonable as the rhetoric young Kim dishes out to his greatest nemesis. Also it’s as potentially self destructive as well. Clearly you have no substantive criteria to lend any suggestion of credibility to your claims ….

      • Mensa Member


        Rather than denigrating Karen, tell her why or how she is wrong.

        • Howard Rosenbaum

          Seems to me that Karen probably has already rebuffed those arguments before. Her comments are likely the product of something in her life she has reason to regret. When she has “ears to hear” God will provide others w/that word in season …

          • Mensa Member


            >> Her comments are likely the product of something in her life she has reason to regret.

            This is exactly what I mean. That’s a personal attack, not a factual response.

            It doesn’t elevate the discussion on “The Stream” and, frankly, it lowers your credibility. Have you noticed how discussions on the Internet (in general) have gone down in quality? Instead of people using facts and logic, they just call each other stupid (or far worse).

            Don’t be a part of that!

            I agree that Karen was unnecessarily snarky but she did make a valid point — she believes that killing lots of people in a nuclear war is probably not God’s will.

            If you think she is wrong — tell her why, using facts and logic.

            I happen to think she is correct. Dr. Brown thinks that a “divine” thing might come out of this conflict with N.K. I think bombs are generally of the Devil.

          • Hmmm…

            What happens when the devil drops some of his bombs on you?

          • Hannah

            Judging by your reply, this is not your first encounter with Karen. It’s heartbreaking to see such anger and pain, but I know that I cannot reach her heart – only He can. If Saul of Tarsus was not unwinnable, neither is even those with the hardest of hearts. Keep the faith, Howard, and know that you encourage me every time I see you post!

        • Paul

          Hey, Karen called me a dunce, are you going to scold her too? LOL

      • Karen

        Announcing that we’re ready to attack the Norks by Twitter – while he’s sitting on the toilet, I’m sure — is pretty damned substantive. He threatens war with his phone.

        • Howard Rosenbaum

          It’s not a threat – it’s a statement. Threats aren’t often made upon the commode you reference.

          • Mensa Member

            She is referring to Trump’s early morning tweets which do seem like what is euphemistically called “me time.”

            But, I agree with you… presidential threats of war aren’t often made from the commode.

            Nor should they be! But it seems like Trump has reduced the once-great presidency down to tweeting nuclear threats from the john.

          • Karen

            Trump’s statements are. They are always full of the stuff humans put in toilets.

        • Paul

          Twitter started about 10 years ago and didn’t take off until a few years later. It’s now mass media that no POTUS had prior to Obama. He communicates via Twitter, so what? If you have a problem with Twitter that isn’t Trump’s problem, it’s yours.

          So please tell us the correct communications medium to use to remind NK and the rest of the world that the US will unleash hell if attacked?

          • Karen

            Diplomatic channels have existed for hundreds of years. He should use diplomatic protocol, not Twitter. (And FWIW, Obama had access to Twitter but was smart and learned enough to avoid using it where other appropriate methods existed.)

          • Paul

            Twitter sure saved a lot of time

          • Karen

            Okay, because you are a dunce, let me explain this to you in the simplest words I know: Nations operate under certain conventions and rules. Those conventions and rules stipulate that certain actions have certain results. A declaration of war — which has to be approved by the House of Representatives — starts procedures for freezing the enemy’s assets over here, preparing to send combat troops, even things like restricting the commercial use of essential metals. If the President orders military action he has to do it through certain specific channels and publish it in certain specific publications and sources. Twitter is NONE of those things.

            In the correct version of reality, American diplomats are having discussions with intermediary country diplomats, trying to work out a way to avoid war. (Trump doesn’t believe in hiring diplomats, which is by itself proof that he is a dangerous idiot and anyone who supports him deserves nothing but loud, constant ridicule for the rest of your pathetic natural lives. Which with Trump in office are certainly going to be very short.) In this horrifying version, however, the diplomats have no way of knowing whether the President is going to contradict their instructions by issuing a dim Tweet in the next hour. They can’t rely on his statements or his staff, so they can’t really do anything.

            Do you want a nuclear war? Are you really that evil?

          • Hannah

            Your mockery of both Christians fellow readers is telling of a deeper seated issue. I find it amusing that Mensa Member will chastise Howard for “personal attacks” but chooses to remain silent in the face of your blatant anger. It is well within your right to disagree but to expect hatred to be met with courtesy is a stretch; despite that, Howard has managed to remain so. Perhaps your thoughts would be better accepted if you didn’t show such contempt and bitterness towards all who disagree with you. You’re angry, that much has been made blindingly clear; what good does that anger do but to beget more anger and hatred? In the end, you’ve poisoned your soul and made yourself into someone whom others pity. You’re better than that, that much I’m positive on.

          • Paul

            You’re underestimating Trump, which is the same mistake his opponents and detractors did during the election. And with comments like ‘dunce’ and ‘anyone who supports him deserves nothing but loud, constant ridicule for the rest of your pathetic natural lives’ it seems you’re still in shock that Hillary lost. You can simply label me deplorable if you want to save time. Trump marches to the beat of a different drum, no point getting your panties in a wad. Have a seat, buckle up and enjoy the 8 year ride.

            Were you this bound up when Reagan declared the USSR an evil empire, grew our military and seriously angered those commies? Guess who won. Before you have another melt down, no I’m not comparing the two men, rather comparing the situations and the need for a hard stance against those who would harm us and oppose our way of life.

          • Karen

            There is not one single shred of evidence that Trump is anything but a narcissistic ignormamus who promised stupid people the world and they believed him because he played a business executive on a game show. I am in shock that so many Americans are that gullible, and yes, if you voted for him you are deplorable. You have deluded yourself into believing that white males are suffering and that Trump cares one little tiny bit about you. Nothing is going to change your closed and tiny mind, but at least I’ve had a change to vent a little before being incinerated.

            And yes I was terrified that Reagan was going to get us all killed. Reagan, and we, were lucky that the Soviets had a competent and sane leader when we didn’t.

          • Hannah

            1) Trump cut $22b in regulations in his first six months, $3b of which were implemented by Obama in his first six.

            2) The stock market continues to have record breaking highs despite the media’s hysterical shrieking about Doomsday being upon us.

            3) We as a nation have brought back so much business from overseas because now, it’s cheaper to build stateside and the restraints choking us before have been lessened or removed altogether. Walmart is struggling to keep enough people hired because higher-paying jobs are opening up due to these changes.

            4) Our presence on the world stage has gone from embarrassing to empowered. The UN has said that if Congress decides to declare war on Russia, the UN will side with Trump and it will be Congress vs. the World. France is seeking to rectify its decision to take in refugees – and this was after Macron met with Trump. The Queen chose to meet with Trump despite the London mayor saying she shouldn’t – and this is the same country who didn’t invite the Obamas to William and Kate’s wedding!

            5) Trump has established (and maintained) over 500 businesses worldwide in his time as an entrepreneur, as well as writing a book that has changed the way many in the business world think. Neither one of these are no small achievements, despite your attempts to paint it thusly.

            6) On top of all the above, the man ran for president, paid for his own campaign from his own pocket as well as contributions, and WON. The GOP, the Dems, Congress, MSM, everyone stood against him, and he STILL won. He’s weeded out so many snakes in so little time – and we’ve still got 3 1/2 years left (hopefully more)!

            Your childish rantings are just that, and making such a ridiculous statement about there being “absolutely no evidence” is about as fallacious as it comes. Making statements like this invites people like me to step up and show this allegedly non-existent evidence in support of our claims. You’re angry, and you’re bitter. That’s all this boils down to. This has nothing to do with race or gender – it’s about competency. You hate him because you’ve been wronged by men, and thus all men are evil, especially those who are successful and deemed more powerful than others. If you can’t be comfortable in your own skin, that’s not anyone’s fault but your own. Stop projecting and start healing.

            P.S. If “so many Americans” voted for Trump and not Hillary, maybe we’re not the problem.

          • Paul

            “…ignormamus who promised stupid people the world and they believed him…”

            I’m surprised to see you slip in a reference to Obama and his voters.

            “… he played a business executive on a game show”

            Actually he’s a multi billionaire business executive who was invited to do a TV show. I’m sure the distinction is lost in your rage but I thought I’d attempt to introduce a little fact in your rant.

            “..and yes, if you voted for him you are deplorable.”

            Hmmm, a choice between a pathological liar who should be in prison and a non-PC billionaire businessman with lttle political experience. He wasn’t my first choice in the R field but far better than Hillary.

            “You have deluded yourself into believing that white males are suffering and that Trump cares one little tiny bit about you.”

            Actually I don’t know Trump and he doesn’t know me so I have no delusion that he cares about me specifically.

            As for your random race/gender flame bait, even some Ds are now strategizing how to convince white males that they now care about them when they’ve demonstrated the opposite. I don’t expect you to understand.

            “Nothing is going to change your closed and tiny mind, but at least I’ve had a change to vent a little before being incinerated.”

            I hope it made you feel better. Will you change your mind if all this NK drama ends well for the US or will you give all the credit to Kim Jong Un for being the sane and competent one like you did with Reagan? Reagan was right but your closed tiny mind won’t let you see it, even after the Berlin wall came down and so many countries regained their independence. You say you were terrified, but in your terror you’re not realizing that fear doesn’t accomplish much.

    • Mensa Member

      >>I just adore the cute way “Christians” can rationalize Trump’s foolishness.

      And the really un-Jesus thing is that Trump is daring Kim Jong Un to kill somebody else.

    • Az1seeit

      Wow! Condescension and sarcasm….off-putting. I guess you don’t really have anything you want the reader to take seriously. Why bother?

  • Mensa Member

    >> Will Kim Jong Un act foolishly?

    How did we get into a situation where we’re hoping Kim Jong Un is the rational one?

    OK. We know. Conservatives have horrible judgment in who they follow.

  • Mensa Member

    >> A Divine Moment for the North Korean Church?

    I get a little nauseous when Christian conservatives use this to justify war.

    Remember how Franklin Graham and his Evangelical ilk sold us the Iraq war based on the possibility that this might be a “divine moment” for Iraq?

    Make no mistake. The Iraq war decimated the church in Iraq.

    • Charles Burge

      I didn’t see anything in Mr. Brown’s article about justifying war. And for the record, I’m concerned about President Trump’s bellicosity on the matter. The point here is that only God knows every possible contingency of every possible human decision, and He directs human hearts and minds. I think every Christian needs to be praying that the president and his advisers will be infused with divine wisdom so they can make decisions that will bring about a peaceful end to this, and hopefully, rescue from tyranny for those living in North Korea.

  • Howard Rosenbaum

    A moral authority is something that most liberals can’t get their heads around. The idea that this POTUS is “threatening’ nuclear war is about as intelligent as the last 8+++ years of so called appeasement. The only thing more untenable to the left would be the idea that God is actually involved w/the affairs of men, particularly when invited to do so. The MSM would have us shaking in our boots over Trumps straight forward approach. Those who have some sense of God’s objectives in matters like these have more than just political rational to view the bigger picture w/objectivity. The jury may still be out on the eventual outcome, but the Judge will be the one to pass sentence. Lincoln got it right when he replied to a commentator that it’s not that God is on our side but rather that we are on His ..

    • Mensa Member

      >> A moral authority is something that most liberals can’t get their heads around.

      Would you PLEASE stop telling us liberals you think we believe? You guys almost always get it wrong.

      Liberalism has a very developed concept of moral authority.

      We believe that moral authority is earned by acting morally. It’s a foundational liberal principle.

      Getting into unnecessary wars, for example (Iraq comes to mind), reduce a country’s moral authority.

      • Howard Rosenbaum

        Yes, ones actions are predicated upon ones moral foundation – or questionable lack thereof. In my mind a question mark remains regarding that foundation judging from prior inactivity or by dubious choices made by prior administrations. It’s a big leap of faith to conclude that this administration is promoting an “unnecessary war” ..
        Also, it would seem that todays liberals have in large part abandoned foundational principles. That is if the scripture that comprises the groundwork of this nations Judeo- Christian heritage is the cornerstone upon which morality & ethics are built ….

      • Paul

        “We believe that moral authority is earned by acting morally.”

        For me that begs explaining in the context of abortion.

      • Michael Gore

        “Liberalism has a very developed concept of moral authority”

        According to what standard?

  • SophieA

    We must never forget God and his eternal plan for every soul in this world. Reassuring and most comforting words to which the wise cling.

    • Bezukhov

      We must never forget God and his eternal plan for every soul in this world.

      “Free Will”. We hardly knew ya.

  • Hmmm…

    The Korean leader has now been found to have a nuke ready for an ICBM, which would reach the West Coast if not more of the U.S. He is saying he will use them. Said before was mere rhetoric, said now with nuclear capability is something different. Mr. Trump et al in the higher levels of government decision making have more information and knowledge of the immediate situation than we do. How is everyone else so able to second guess that what he says is immediately wrong? It’s call prejudice, which means to pre-judge by the way, which means judging something before you have information about it to give an evaluation.
    When I hear Mr. Trump’s strong assertions, each time I think about the men surrounding Un, men who may not be as serendipity about threatening a superior power as he is. They have to think about the possibilities each time they hear Mr. Trump’s stand for supremacy in military might, which they at least must know to be true. They have to assess personally whether or not he will indeed use it this time and what effect that would have on them.

  • Hmmm…

    Just saw that US and NK diplomats are talking consistently on a back channel.

    I don’t know how many know that South Korea had or maybe still has the largest church in the world (approx. 830K members, started by Dr. Yonggi Cho, one of whose callings is prayer, prayer and more prayer. I’d say N. Korea has been soaked in it for many decades. This may be their hour of deliverance.

  • Hmmm…

    God is in the business of using flawed vessels. That is seen biblically and historically. We have trouble when it occurs in our current context due to our propensity to put our eyes on man. I considered the obvious during the campaign, that we had two very flawed candidates. Whoever won would still be flawed, either side. I witnessed at one point of hearing his heart for the come-back needed for our nation that God was going to use Donald Trump. I have never considered him no longer flawed, just pray in all the steps, keep offering that support for the sake of the Kingdom and God’s work and will being done. That does not make one a groupie for him, and I do not consider that I must be an apologist for all his moves and attitudes – no.

  • Kevin Quillen

    “it is God who “removes kings and sets up kings.”
    People use this a lot. Did God set up little Kim? If God set him up, should we knock him down? This line of thought is really foolish. See the problem?

    • pfrman1

      It’s not simply a line of thought. It’s a quote from Scripture. And we can see from Scripture that God not only appoints good rulers, but evil ones as well. (See Pharaoh, Herod, Nebuchadnezzar, etc.) Of course, God setting a leader up does not preclude Him using other political leaders to take that person down. We also see numerous instances of that in Scripture.

  • Az1seeit

    Great article and needed perspective. Thank you Dr. Brown.

  • Jason Todd

    Pardon the interruption, but I am writing this due to a concern regarding a commenter who frequents ChristianNews(dot)net that goes by the name, “Ambulance Chaser.”

    On more than one occasion, he has been asked point blank about the sexual abuse of children, and whether he condones or condemns it.

    Beyond his defense of the infamous Rind study, he refuses to answer.

    This has given me reason to believe Ambulance Chaser is a sexual predator who targets children. As such, he has no business being on the internet whatsoever.

    You can find him and his most recent comments under the story, ” Disney Preschooler Animation ‘Doc McStuffins’ Features Family With ‘Two Moms’.”

    Thank you for your attention.

  • Beezy Liz

    I’ll say “Amen” to that. +JMJ

  • tz1

    When discussing NK, remember the USA has slaughtered 60 MILLION innocent babies in the womb and their blood cries out for justice.

    Talk about the tyranny and oppression of North Korea all you want, but realize you are knee deep in a torrent of innocent blood which we’ve had a generation to stop.

    And that as of today, federal funds are still flowing to Planned Parenthood.

    Has Kim Jong Un and his predecessors over the same time murdered as many innocents proportionately?

    Yes, God is in control. And he is just. And you should be shuttering in fear of his righteous judgment, at least if you’ve ignored the clinic a few miles away.

  • Linda

    Thank you for this thought-provoking call to faith…

  • Boris

    “Religion is a totalitarian belief. It is the wish to be a slave. It is the desire that there be an unalterable, unchallengeable, tyrannical authority who can convict you of thought crime while you are asleep, who can subject you to total surveillance around the clock every waking and sleeping minute of your life, before you’re born and, even worse and where the real fun begins, after you’re dead. A celestial North Korea. Who wants this to be true? Who but a slave desires such a ghastly fate? I’ve been to North Korea. It has a dead man as its president, Kim Jong-Il is only head of the party and head of the army. He’s not head of the state. That office belongs to his deceased father, Kim Il-Sung. It’s a necrocracy, a thanatocracy. It’s one short of a trinity I might add. The son is the reincarnation of the father. It is the most revolting and utter and absolute and heartless tyranny the human species has ever evolved. But at least you can…. die and leave North Korea!” Chris Hitchens

    • Kevin Quillen

      true freedom is only found in a relationship with God, the Creator of all, through Jesus Christ. But, you would not understand that, because you refuse to submit to Him. I hope someday you understand and believe.

      • Boris

        The word “freedom” in the Bible means something very different from our usual notion of being able to make choices. It compares more closely to being free of lice. In Romans 6:17-18 it is clear that the believer is no closer to having free will. Freedom simply means “available for subjection to God” instead of to sin. With this new definition, it becomes interesting to look at that old favorite, “Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free” (John 8:32). Another potent example of this manipulation of language is the use of love, which translates to obedience: “If you love me, you will keep my commandments…He who has my commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves me” (John 14:15, 21). Just as truth is torn away from the realm of fact in Christianity, love is removed from the realm of human affections. Human love is disparaged as frail and fickle, while agape – unselfish, altruistic love that is from God love – is held up as ideal. This can appeal greatly to converts disappointed with human relationships. Yet, it has little to do with what we usually think of love: affection, sharing thoughts and feelings, caring accepting, forgiving, empathizing touching listening, giving, respecting, helping, appreciating, supporting, and so on. It is a mental activity of adhering to a code. A Christian “loves” a sinner because God “loves” the sinner and one must follow suit. Love to the Evangelist is simply a willingness to put up with a sinner in order to obey the commission to preach the gospel. Thus the Christian can say, without noticing the inconsistency, “I love the sinner, but not the sin.” To the uninitiated, this is a strange kind of love that tries to divorce persons from their activities and then judges those activities with amazing ferocity. In this type of love, there is no desire to know or be known, which in our everyday understanding, underlies the condition of love. Normally the development of intimacy in human relations involves increasing levels of self-disclosure ans mutual acceptance based on equal standing. In contrast, the Christian preaching the gospel is by no means acting vulnerable, while working hard to find a vulnerable spot in the potential proselyte. I cannot be manipulated by the subtle mind control techniques of cults and religions. You can.

        • Chip Crawford

          No, instead, you can be and are manipulated by Satan, the deceiver.

          • Boris

            Besides the fear that you let OTHER PEOPLE indoctrinate you with what evidence do you have that this Satan actually exists? The deceiver is your brain dead religion not some invisible being for which there exists not a shred of evidence. Jesus Christ never existed so why should I believe Satan exists?

    • Chip Crawford

      Religion is man’s attempt to reach God. Christianity is God’s reach to man. Religion is rules; Christianity is relationship. One who has met God, who has invited him in and is indwelt by his spirit, would not go back. God is love, giving love. He is one who knows you best, warts and all, yet loves you most. Besides that, He is wonderful company.

      • Boris

        “Religion is man’s attempt to reach God.”
        No, religion is man’s attempt to get other men to follow them blindly and give them their money through the use of mind control and sophistry.
        “Christianity is God’s reach to man.”
        Christianity is a bunch of pagan nonsense invented by sun worshipers and copied from the other Pagan Mystery Religions .
        “Religion is rules; Christianity is relationship. One who has met God, who has invited him in and is indwelt by his spirit, would not go back. God is love, giving love. He is one who knows you best, warts and all, yet loves you most. Besides that, He is wonderful company.”
        People of all religions make the exact same claim. You would never accept a personal experience of God from an adherent of another religion as evidence that their religion is true. When you figure out why that is you will understand why I reject your delusion of a personal relationship as evidence that your invisible boyfriend is real. Did you ever stop to think about what kind of relationship you have with this invisible boyfriend, who by all accounts never slept with a woman? This “relationship” has every element of an abusive relationship there is. And Jesus says the exact same things abusers say to their victims. We all know what they are but in case you forgot:

        “You’re NOTHING without me.”
        “Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me. “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.” John 15:4-6

        “If you even THINK about leaving me…”
        “If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.” Deuteronomy 13:6-11

        “You don’t deserve me”
        You have made my days a mere handbreadth; the span of my years is as nothing before you. Everyone is but a breath, even those who seem secure. Psalms 39:5
        “You will never find ANYONE as good as me.”

        ““Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone.” Mark 10:18
        .”Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.” James 1:17

        “You brought this upon yourself”
        “For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.” 1 Corinthians 15:21-22

        .”Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned” Romans 5:12

        “You’re a TERRIBLE person and you need me to be better” “Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me. Yet you desired faithfulness even in the womb; you taught me wisdom in that secret place. Cleanse me with hyssop, and I will be clean; wash me, and I will be whiter than snow.” Psalms 51:5-7 “As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one;” Romans 3:10
        “I know best.”
        “The Lord commanded us to obey all these decrees and to fear the Lord our God, so that we might always prosper and be kept alive, as is the case today. Deuteronomy 6:24 “Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. ” Matthew 6:8 “If our hearts condemn us, we know that God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything.” 1 John 3:20

        .”You’re not worthy of my love”
        “All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away. ” Isaiah 64:6

        “I’m only doing this because I love you.”
        “have you completely forgotten this word of encouragement that addresses you as a father addresses his son? It says, ‘My son, do not make light of the Lord’s discipline, and do not lose heart when he rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and he chastens everyone he accepts as his son.'”
        Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as his children. For what children are not disciplined by their father? If you are not disciplined—and everyone undergoes discipline —then you are not legitimate, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in his holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it.” Hebrews 12:5-11

        “Don’t listen to ANYONE who doesn’t understand what we have.”
        “But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!” Galatians 1:8-9

        You are in a very abusive relationship. Call 911 and have that abuser put behind bars where he belongs.

Why We Need the Wise Counsel of Good Friends
Casey Chalk
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