Please! As Followers of Jesus We Can Do Better

By Michael Brown Published on August 14, 2017

In the aftermath of the Charlottesville tragedy, what grieves me most is that so much of the church sounds just like the world.

We sound just as divided, just as politicized, just as biased. Rather than taking the higher ground and calling others to join us, we sink down into the fray, getting soiled and dirtied in the process. Rather than being a voice of sanity and clarity to the nation, our message is muddled. We are more rude than redemptive and more caustic than compassionate. Surely we can and must do better.

It’s one thing to have biblically-based convictions. It’s another thing to be a slave to culturally-colored opinions.

It’s one thing to be passionate for justice and truth. It’s another to be so right in our own eyes.

Often, There’s Truth on Both Sides

How many of us do our best to understand both sides of an argument? How many of us make an effort to listen and understand before we speak? How many of us expose ourselves to viewpoints that we differ with? How many of us put caring before criticizing? How many of us realize that we all have blind spots that hinder our objectivity? How many of us even take time to pray and ask God for His wisdom and His perspective?

If we completely shut out opposing views, how can we be so sure that we’re being objective?

Do you remember when Sean Hannity’s TV show was actually Hannity and Colmes (speaking of the late Alan Colmes)? The few times I tuned in, I would hear Hannity present his position and think to myself, “Well done. He nailed it.” Then Colmes would respond and I’d say, “You’ve got a great point there.”

Often, things are not so black and white, and often there is truth and error on both sides. But if we completely shut out opposing views, if we refuse even to hear what others have to say, how can we be so sure that we’re being objective?

It’s Painful to See This Happening in the Body of Christ

I’m an unashamed, unapologetic, moral conservative, and I would gladly die on the hill of my core biblical convictions. At the same time, I can tell you what my ideological opponents believe and why they believe it. And I can present their arguments in such a way that they would say, “You understand our position.” Yes, I understand it, and I reject it.

But all too often, when I’m interacting with someone I differ with, my focus is not to understand their position before responding. My focus is to rebut them, to prove they’re wrong, to demonstrate I’m right. And that begs the question: Am I trying to win an argument or am I trying to be redemptive? Am I trying to be right or trying to help someone see the truth? And am I even open to being wrong on any position I hold?

To be candid, though, our lack of ability to have constructive interaction is not my biggest concern. Rather, it’s that I see racism in the Body; I see politically-driven factionalism in the Body; I see lack of love; even worse, I see cruelty. And so much of it is done in the name of Jesus. What a reproach.

We’re Obviously Not Listening to Each Other

Over the weekend, we posted a meme on Facebook that we’ve used before, picturing two adorable toddlers, one white and one black, with the white boy’s arms around the black boy. The caption reads: THERE’S ONLY ONE RACE. THE HUMAN RACE.

To my shock, when I looked at some comments later in the day, there was a long thread started by one white believer who claimed that the real crisis was white genocide caused by intermarriage. Another long thread was started by a white believer pointing out that it was the white toddler embracing the black toddler, since blacks refuse to embrace whites because of past hurts in America. I deleted both threads in their entirety, making plain that trash like this had no place on our Facebook page.

Beware the danger of living in a bigoted echo chamber!

But the sword cuts both ways. Some black believers have fully embraced the radical-left narrative that most Trump supporters (including white evangelicals) are white supremacists. As for Trump himself, a very polite, God-fearing black believer called my radio show this week and told me he felt Trump was a racist. When I asked him why he believed that, some of his reasons included: 1) Trump is intentionally trying to take health care away from black and Hispanic children; and 2) Trump is trying to overturn everything Obama did simply because of race.

It’s one thing to dislike the president and say he’s divisive. It’s one thing even to believe he’s a racist of sorts. It’s another thing to believe that he opposes Obama policies because Obama was black or that he wants to steal healthcare from black children. That is a bigoted, unfounded position.

I understand that people have their viewpoints. But to me, when we can be this racially divided in our perspectives — as professing followers of Jesus, at that — it’s clear that we are not hearing each other clearly, not weighing the evidence objectively, and perhaps not even willing to consider that we might be wrong on any level. Beware the danger of living in a bigoted echo chamber!

What if We Talked the Way the Bible Says To?

And who can even begin to describe the cruelty of many of our posts — the mockery of our comments, the disparaging tone of our tweets, the ugly nature of our communication? If we spoke and wrote based on biblical principles, for some of us, that would reduce our words by about 90 percent and change the content and tone of the 10 percent that was left.

What if we lived by this verse alone? “Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen” (Eph. 4:29).

Or how about this one? “Let your conversation be always full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone” (Col. 4:6).

Or how about this? “My dear brothers and sisters, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry, because human anger does not produce the righteousness that God desires” (Jam. 1:19-20).

And how about seeking to practice “love your neighbor as yourself”?

For the sake of a watching world, we can and must do better. As we so often hear, you and I are the only Jesus some will ever see.

Today, as the world watches us, His followers, what does it think of Him?

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  • Jennifer Grace Coley

    Good article, definitely needed to be said! Thanks for sharing!

  • Joseph Daniel Matthews

    Agree let our light shine Crucified lives

  • Cris Jones

    Thank you, Dr Brown. Yeah, what if we spoke like the bible tells us to? What if we loved others the way the bible tells us to? What if we took personal responsibility for our sin & dysfunction & recognized how sin-sick and needy we are? What if we recognized how truly wretched blind & naked we actually are, without Christ? What if we humbly recognized that Yeshua died for all of us? What if we actually did what scripture tells us to & believed the fact that we’ll all give account for every idle word we speak? What if you could actually tell that I believed in Jesus, not because I wear a cross, or have a fish on my car, or have a bible-verse t-shirt, but because I could be seen trying to do what He told me to? If we believe the bible is God’s word, let’s hold ourselves to that standard. If we don’t, we’re simply being hypocritical. It’s uncomfortable loving others who aren’t like us, be they white, black, asian, native american, male, female, gay, lesbian, rich, poor, tall, short, fat, or thin. I don’t love the way I want to, yet. I am selfish. I am arrogant. I desperately want to be conformed to the image of God’s Son. I am sorry & apologize for the way that those who call themselves Christian (myself included) have treated you, however you have been mistreated. Please read the bible to see God’s intent for His church….He desires that the church be one. He desires that the world would know us, because of how we love one another. Just to be plain, scripture makes it plain. When we cut others, with our words and actions, there’s no defending it. We will give an account & should tremble at the thought. I am a wretched man, but I serve and follow a great and awesome, gracious, loving Savior. His mercies are new every morning. I hope you see Him, in the glory that is only His. He loves you. No matter who you are. Anyone who says different, is a liar. Black lives do matter. Blue, green, yellow, white, red, and rainbow lives matter too. I’m a white man, saved by a Jewish man. Jesus loves you.

    • m-nj

      not criticizing you, but try hitting the return key a few times… really hard to read one long single paragraph.

  • Hmmm…

    It’s hard to love haters, accusers in full sail … Might have to avoid the discussion at times. Hard not to respond to their challenges and answer their charges.

  • Walter Schroedter

    Couldn’t agree more! Thanks for seeking to live this out, and reminding us to do likewise.
    God bless!

  • Patmos

    And don’t give what is holy to dogs, or cast your pearls before swine. Nor should we turn grace into license.

    Harmless as a dove is fine, but don’t forget the shrewd as a snake part either. Jesus told his disciples that if a town or household does not receive you, to shake even the dust of them off your feet.

    Many are called but few are chosen.

    His kingdom is not of this earth, for if it were the first disciples would have fought to save Jesus from what was done to him.

  • Ken Keebler

    Trust is the issue at hand.
    Most rely on their own understanding.
    Most care not for reproof in Godly reasoning because their minds are made up in the image of who they perceive themselves to be!
    NOT TEACHABLE!!
    No Peace of mind!!!
    Only they have knowledge of what is missing in others. They are caught up in expression of feelings hidden behind closed ears that neither listen nor hear.
    giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ; submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
    Ephesians 5:20‭-‬21

  • Andrew Mason

    The church sounds just as divided, just as politicized, just as biased as the world, because it is. George Yancey had an interested column the other day on the distinction between progressive Christians and conservative (Bible Believing) Christians. The former believe in left-wing politics but dress it up in Biblical terms whilst the latter believe in the Bible and sometimes advance politics based on those beliefs. They are no more the same religion than Islam and Christianity. Both Muslims and Progressives consider Jesus an important religious leader, but reject the Bible as divinely inspired or central to their faith.

    As for the point about a white believer posting about inter-racial marriage and white genocide, I actually find that interesting – I don’t know anyone with beliefs like that and struggle to understand them. I think someone here may have shared something along those lines but the logic is still something I cannot grasp. Note, I have friends in inter-racial marriages, and who have half-breed kids and think it’s awesome!!! Like Brown says, there’s really only one race – the human race, but within that race there’s room for what seems like infinite variation and it’s fascinating to see the variety.

  • JohnFryters

    Honestly Dr. Michael, I have been feeling like this for many years, particularly as it relates to the church and its position on all kinds of social issues such as poverty, addictions, care for seniors, teen pregnancy, and believe it or not, even unity among themselves. It hurts me deep inside my heart. The local church, at least in this city, has not been able to unite behind or seek/find solutions for any of the many social problems. I can not understand it as the answers are quite obvious and right in front of us if we would just open the Scriptures.

    • Chip Crawford

      If you have indeed achieved the zenith in human discourse, perhaps, in addition to wagging your head in saddened dismay, you could pray for all those less perfect than yourself. Don’t forget to beat your breast as you do, saying, “I thank you Lord that I am not as other men, like that publican over there …” etc.

  • Concerned Christian

    is this why conservatives believe blacks believe Trump is a racist?

    “It’s another thing to believe that he opposes Obama policies because Obama was black or that he wants to steal health care from black children. That is a bigoted, unfounded position.”

    if so, that would certainly explain the confusion that conservatives are feeling.

    • Andrew Mason

      Per the article, one radio caller who identified as Black gave that as the basis for his claim that Trump is racist.

      • Concerned Christian

        i guess my point is that it appears that a majority of black people & substantial numbers of whites think trump is a racist. Members of white supremacy groups clearly believe he is one of theirs.

        So the belief that blacks feel this way because of benefits is interesting.

        • Chip Crawford

          If you have to guess your point, that means we do too. It would seem better form for you to know and make clear your point. Love and kisses.

          • Concerned Christian

            well, i certainly get your point. 🙂

          • Chip Crawford

            Try again.

          • Concerned Christian

            now i don’t get your point?

        • Andrew Mason

          The fact Trump supports First Amendment rights and doesn’t believe Antifa, BLM etc deserve carte blanche means that compared to Obama he does support white racists. The problem is life has become so political that anything less than anti-White bigotry on his part will be taken by some as proof of his racism rather than what seems to be the reality – his values clash with the Left, and so grants groups the Left hates more rights than the Left wish to give them, but not less (or more) than the Constitution gives them.

          • Concerned Christian

            if you can compare Antifa & BLM to the KKK, WN, & Nazi’s then you have a valid point.

            The one thing i do know is that if I’m a member of a racist group, I was truly empowered by what Trump said yesterday. If I’m Black, Jewish, Hispanic, or Muslim, the threat of confrontation has risen substantially.

            At worst no leftest group attacks based on appearance. Now every black church, as we’ve already seen, every synagogue, and every mosque needs to be aware of the threat of random violence. No white church or establishment has this fear.

          • Andrew Mason

            WN? Aside from that, yes as far as many people are concerned Antifa, BLM, KKK, Nazis etc are all the same, just different slogans, uniforms etc.

            For a confrontation to occur you need two sides. Under Obama the division was growing. Under Trump perhaps the division may be resolved, or perhaps it won’t.

            The problem is I’ve read too many accounts of Leftist groups threatening Christians, heard of death threats against Christians, and seem articles about violence against Christians (or churches) to think appearance matters.

          • Concerned Christian

            First of all, the problem of blacks getting killed in church, getting killed randomly, black churches getting burned, synagogues getting damaged is not a threat it’s a reality.

            Second, there aren’t two sides to a confrontation. One side instigated and the other side stood up. One group had torches and guns and the other had bats. One side is protesting the removal of a racist statue and the other is protesting the protesting of the removal of a racist statue.

            The worst you can say about Antifa & BLM is that their tactics don’t represent american values. But protesting against fascist, racist, and unarmed blacks getting killed is worthy of protest in the sense of the american tradition.

            The KKK, White Nationalist, and Nazi’s spit in the face of American Tradition or at least what America wants herself to be.

          • Andrew Mason

            It depends where you live as to the problems you see and hear about. Apart from the Dylan Roof incident I don’t think I’m aware of any other Black church shootings. I’m aware that churches get targeted, I’m not aware of race being a factor.

            You’re suggesting Antifa and the BLM had guns? The ‘Unite the Right’ organised their event and secured legal permission to do so. The Left instigated a confrontation, and the ‘Right’ stood up to them. While some militiamen had guns from what I’ve read they acted as an almost neutral third party – stepping in to stop fights because the police didn’t.

            I’m not suggesting the KKK or Nazis are what America wants to be, I’m merely suggesting that Antifa etc is no better, and in their desire to crush dissension, may in fact be worse. As Charlottesville locals said in at least one of the articles I’ve read, they’d have been much happier if the bigoted outsiders had decided to clash elsewhere.

          • Concerned Christian

            i would just say do some research on black churches and synagogues from 2015 to the present. I will say that it was scary getting stopped by the cops in 1980 and it’s still scary now. Antifa is easy to spot. Based on what i saw at the rally, KKK and Nazis are not. If a person will walk around with a torch and a gun publicly as a member of these groups, what do you think they’re capable of without a camera. As we’ve seen in Maryland with the police planting evidence, people are at their worst when the cameras aren’t looking. How many shootings have occurred with unarmed blacks when the policy body camera decided not to work?

            if you can equate Antifa to the KKK and Nazis, that’s fine. I can’t and i won’t.

          • Andrew Mason

            There are no Black churches in my area, unless you consider Filipino’s Black. And the only ‘attack’ on a synagogue that I can recall hearing about recently was political – council refusal to permit one to be built.

            Actually Antifa is harder to spot than the KKK or the Nazis. Nazis, or perhaps neo-Nazis tend to be tatted up and have an obsession with swastikas. By contrast Antifa has an obsession with anonymity and cover their faces. In that regards they’re akin to the old KKK bedsheet and pillowcase attire.

            If Antifa is less of a threat than Nazis or the KKK in your area fine, don’t equate them. From what I can tell Nazi’s and the KKK are less of a threat where I am so Antifa is at least as big of a threat, and probably a greater threat.

          • Concerned Christian

            well, if you think all Nazis or KKK members look like Nazis and KKK members then there in lies a problem. I used to work in a well paid consulting office and in that office i overheard a co-worker singing “Barack the Magic Negro”. This same co-worker told me that a black manager may not have given him a job because the black manager is racist. I kind of found some irony there.

            So, if you get stopped by a cop, stand in front of a judge, go to a school, or basically do anything that allows someone to control your access to opportunity, you have no idea what that persons prejudices are.

            Without you opening your mouth Antifa doesn’t know if you’re friend or foe. If you are non-white the Nazis/KKK already have their answer.

            Anytime a cop shoots an unarmed black man, do you think it’s possible that the cop may have been a racist? Of course not, because he didn’t look like one. This includes the white cop that shot a black man running away from him in SC. Then tried to plant a gun on him. Again, it clearly wasn’t racist because the cop didn’t look like one.

          • Andrew Mason

            What’s the issue with Barack the Magic Negro? A quick Google for the lyrics suggests it’s a Black song opposing the election of a black skinned White president.

            Actually past performance, or public proclamations do make clear what a person’s prejudices are. If you have a random encounter, sure all you know is that it’s an official, or an organisation, but if it’s not random, if you can read up on their rulings, or their programs or … then you have an idea about prejudices.

            Actually Antifa can tell if I’m the enemy by looking at the places I go, and the people I associate with, not merely by what I say or post. Same as standing at the synagogue gates makes clear whether the blue eyed blond is Aryan or not.

            Any time, or every time? Sure there’s times when a cop could be racist, but even if he’s racist, it doesn’t mean it’s a bad shoot. Perhaps the guy was charging him and seeking to grapple, or perhaps he appeared to (move to) draw a firearm. Note too that Black cops shoot Black suspects at least as often – and I have an idea it’s more often, than White cops. Are they racist? Don’t recall hearing about an SC case, but planting a firearm needn’t be a race matter – shooting an unarmed guy is far harder to defend than an armed suspect.

    • m-nj

      conservatives, many of whom are non-minorities, oppose almost all of what Obama did NOT because he was black, but because he was an extreme liberal/progressive… which, unfortunately, a lot of minorities also identify as.

      • Concerned Christian

        so your point is that conservatives did not oppose Obama because he was black but because of the policies he supported?

        however, non-whites do view Trump as a racist because of the policies he supports?

        • m-nj

          what i am saying is that, in very broad-brush terms, minorities tend to be liberal/progressive, and non-minorities tend to be conservative. i think this is borne out by voting patterns, demographics, etc.

          so it is no surprise that minorities oppose Trump’s conservative policies. they are simply slapping a “racist” label on it to try to shame him and his supporters, which is a standard operating procedure for the left, and the same thing they did to anyone who dared to oppose Obama when he was in office.

          • Concerned Christian

            yes, that’s what i thought you were alluding to.

            What’s funny is that white nationalist believe Trump has conducted himself l like a racist. David Duke believes he has conducted himself like a racist. neo-nazi groups believe he’s a racist.

            But non-whites are the ones that are wrong in thinking that Trump is a racist? Further, if you do any searches on Trump prior to 2016, non-whites already thought Trump was a racist.

          • m-nj

            “But non-whites are the ones that are wrong in thinking that Trump is a racist?”

            based upon what? from you posted, are you saying minorities are taking their cue from white nationalists, the people they claim to hate? if so, they are as gullible as many think them to be.

            and why are YOU quoting white nationalists?… of course they are going to respond this way. sadly, the president had to basically repeat what he already said to placate the lib/progs

          • Concerned Christian

            i would say that we’re both looking at the conduct & actions of the person and coming to the same conclusion.

            maybe we are as gullible as many think us to be but thank God you personally don’t have that type of belief.

          • Kevin Quillen

            they are as gullible as many think them to be”
            They certainly seem to be gullible. Look up President Johnson’s quote after he signed the civil rights bill. About blacks voting democrat for 200 years.

  • BTP

    Ah, yes. Can’t we all just get along?

    Good Lord, man! Have you been alive during the last decade, or have I missed the white mobs tearing down statues of MLK?

    • Concerned Christian

      Well perhaps if MLK had fought and killed to maintain slavery in this country he would have a statue that deserves to be torn down.

      • BTP

        Curious. By what right do today’s inhabitants of some city have the right to remove the monuments of yesterday’s inhabitants? Or does the command to honor your father and mother not apply to their statements about their own identity?

        • Concerned Christian

          Are you seriously saying, using the Bible as justification, that blacks should actually honor monuments dedicated to confederates?

          • m-nj

            A mob tearing down a statue, defacing a monument, etc. is NOT the way America is supposed to work. We have (or used to have) law and order. If you want it down, go through the proper channels, and convince enough people to agree with you. You cannot take the law/process into your own hands and expect no consequences.

          • BTP

            The people do not have a right to remove the monuments of their predecessors, whether through some “democratic” process or otherwise. To do so is completely to eradicate the identity of the predecessors, which means war.

          • m-nj

            i disagree. we have removed, physically or symbolically, a lot of things that those that came before us built or supported. their work is not sacrosanct, off-limits, or eternal… that privilege belongs to the works of God alone.

          • BTP

            Odd to think some people believe we have the right to erase the identities of our ancestors. But, I guess if we had a vote on it or something, then whatever. And people wonder why things come to violence…

          • m-nj

            i don’t see removing a statue as erasing their identity… the anti-statue group feel the statue somehow glorifies what they stood for. personally, i think removing the statues is going to backfire on the lib/progs, because once they are all gone, they won’t be able to point to the statue and say, “This person supported slavery and racism”. same for their desire to purge history books of the things that “offend” them.

          • BTP

            Please explain why you don’t see the removal of the statue as removing identity. Why could be more essential to a community’s identity than the monuments it erects through time?

          • m-nj

            i misunderstood your comment about deleting identity… i thought you meant the identity of the actual person the statue was portraying, not “community identity”.

            with your most recent post clarifying that you mean “community identity”, i am more in agreement with Concerned Christian on this point… if the community that now exists wants to derive their “identity” from a statue of someone who supported slavery and racism, then woe be to that community… those are not ideals or beliefs to build a just and civil society upon.

            and i am sure we all have ancestors in our family trees who were racists (i know i do)… they are part of our “heritage”, but that doesn’t mean we have to hold them up as examples.

          • BTP

            Honor your father and mother, so long as you judge everything they thought to be correct.

            A community does not get to choose its identity new each day, in accordance with current moral concepts, but must continually engage with its past. Removal of monuments is warfare against those who erected them and sinful if the people who erected them are your own.

            Or do I get to come in to your house and tear down your photos of your father because I think he had sinful viewpoints?

          • m-nj

            personal photos in someone’s home do not rise to the level of putting people on pedestal, literally and figuratively. if the statue is your relative, go ask if you can have it to placed on your own property… the community apparently no longer wants to see it.

            using the commandment to honor your father and mother is a non-starter… a more apt scripture is Acts 5:29 – But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men.” … and “men” includes leaders, parents, anyone who espouse unbiblical beliefs … they ought not to be obeyed, let alone honored for perpetuity.

            as i said in a previous comment, i think taking down the statues is likely to backfire, since they won’t be able to call out by name the racists, and it also removes the opportunity to use them as bad examples.

          • BTP

            A community defines itself through time by the events and people it remembers, so it’s very analogous. It is the way a community says, “This is who we are.” You don’t change that identity except through bloodshed.

          • Concerned Christian

            I do see it as removing identity. It’s one that deserves to be removed. We don’t see monuments of the British in america although that is as much a part of the identify of this country as the south. If not for the British defeating the French in the French and Indian wars this could be an entirely different country.

            why not replace your monuments with Washington or Jefferson? They were of course slave holders but their very identity is not drowned it. They’ve made other significant contributions to this country. Why not place a statue of someone like Frederick Douglas or Harriet Tubman along with the confederate statue.

            The reason to me is because, typically, you want to glorify your heritage and not acknowledge anyone elses.

          • Concerned Christian

            then we shall have War!

            This past weekend’s actions all but guarantees that these statues will be coming down.

            Just to be clear I don’t care one way or the other. Leaving them up represents the cleansing of a racist past. They should come down for that reason. But if they stay up it makes no difference to me.

          • BTP

            How strange. You should care whether savages destroy their own heritage or not. Indifference to barbarianism is a sin.

          • Concerned Christian

            if your ancestor fought and died for the North would that statue represent your heritage?

          • BTP

            The question is whether it represents the heritage of the people of Virginia or Durham or wherever. Obviously, it does. Are the people who live in Charlottesville or Richmond or Durham right now the victors of some total war, or are they part of a continuous people?

            They, and you, seem to think they have won some terrible war just recently and have, thereby, earned the right to erase the prior inhabitants. I wonder why that is.

          • Concerned Christian

            By their actions, I think the people of Durham and VA are you telling you that it does not. Talking about erasing, why don’t we see monuments to the grand homes that slaves lived in or the gentle discipline they received. Or better yet, let’s celebrate the Jim Crow era in all it’s grandness.

            All kidding aside, the period you’re talking about as heritage, was a living nightmare that some people who are alive today remember.

            So yes, your future descendants have EVERY right to judge your actions.

          • BTP

            Well, that’s just the point. It seems the little savages who tear down the monuments of others consider themselves to have won a war against a different people. Usually, you wait until you’ve actually won an actual war before tearing down the monuments of the enemy.

            But, circling back to the theme of the article, what you are seeing is a declaration that one people should be eliminated. The proper response to such a claim is a fight. So, no, Christians really cannot all just get along. Indeed, I’d suggest asking that they do so over what is clearly an irreconcilable disagreement is counter-productive.

          • Concerned Christian

            well if you agree with the article then i agree that we are at an impasse.

            i don’t see things in such bleak terms. But the world is changing and Christians have to adapt. Adapt does not mean compromise but it does mean that if the goal is to preach the gospel then we have to preach it in a way that people can receive it.

            Jesus said you can’t pour new wine into old wine skins. I can’t raise my kids the way i was raised. Our worlds are completely different. Christians have to and will adapt! The Word is timeless and we must be as well.

          • Dean Bruckner

            With all this ox-goring going on, look to your own ox!

            In his book “And the Walls Came Tumbling down,” Ralph Abernathy, a companion of Martin Luther King, Jr. describes great sins committed by MLK, Jr. Among them is this shocker: the night before he was slain outside the hotel, MLK Jr. had committed adultery with a prostitute and bragged about it at the top of his lungs. Maybe God had enough of his hypocrisy and judged him then and there.

            MLK Jr. plagiarized his dissertation and embraced communism. His children have made a corrupt racket over the use of his name. How can any Christian put MLK Jr on a pedestal? Should not we purge every one of his statues and references from history?

            See how easy that was? You can haul away your ox now.

            I am not for removing MLK Jr.’s monuments or place in history, if other flawed men and women can retain theirs. God knows we all have great flaws and sins.

            Here is a solution: put the statues to a referendum. Or split the city into two and let each zone have its parts and monuments and people and police and everything. Then we can have the Middle East violence block by block along the green line through each city and county in America. Or, as CC points out, we can have another war. Or all of the above.

            Or maybe we can heed Jesus’s words to the self righteous mob: let him who is without sin start the demolition.

          • Concerned Christian

            MLK is not revered because he was perceived to be a Godly man. It’s because he was a voice against the bigotry committed by the people that you want to put on a pedestal.

            Plenty of blacks spoke up during this era but because MLK was articulate and intelligent and acceptable to whites, he was able to be a spokesman for blacks while not scaring whites.

            It’s no different as to why we know of Jackie Robinson and not Josh Gibson or why we know of Joe Louis and not Jack Johnson.

            Have to say that it is pretty ironic to trash MLK in a comparison of the type of people that would have enslaved him. Better yet, the descendants of these people that actually did beat him!

          • Dean Bruckner

            He pretended to be a godly man. Maybe he was, in some respects. But the Word tells us that no one who is born of God continues to sin, with no change in his life.

            MLK Jr’s influence was based on others impression that he was a godly man. The REVEREND Martin Luther King, Jr. That’s why it’s relevant.

            You can try to spin it, but it won’t work.

          • Concerned Christian

            So in a world where white Christians in the south never lifted a hand to help blacks. But they certainly lifted a hand to help white supremacist beat & hang blacks, you’re going to criticize him for his lack of morals?

            So were his morals as good as a Donald Trump who is maybe a Christian or a Thomas Jefferson who slept with his slaves and was an atheist? Perhaps not, but we don’t necessarily build statues for Godly men.

            We build statues of men & women who have had a significant positive impact on the lives of others. As a black person growing up during that time, i can assure you that i knew many black pastors but i only knew of one MLK. He inspired and changed my life not because he was a christian but because along with my parents, he confirmed that i could be somebody regardless of how the confederate statue lovers felt about me.

            Everyone confederate with a statue either beat or was complicit in the beating and murder of blacks. To my knowledge, MLK did neither.

          • Concerned Christian

            agree

          • Concerned Christian

            i agree

          • BTP

            Yes. And if you are not able to see a man like Robert E. Lee as noble, then the problem is with you.

          • Concerned Christian

            Well then I guess I have a “problem!”.

          • BTP

            QED

  • Gary

    If all of the reminders of slavery have to go, then that will have to include the Jefferson and Lincoln memorials, the Washington Monument, Mount Rushmore, the University of Virginia and every state where slavery was legal. And Washington, DC. And Grant’s Tomb. And the Democrat Party. Every body will have to be removed from Arlington Cemetery. West Point will have to go. You liberals have a lot of work to do. Get busy.

  • benevolus

    Odd. I see very little engagement with the points the author has very thoughtfully (and probably prayerfully) tried to make. To the contrary, I see the same kind of inflammatory, ad hominem, the-other-side-is-even-worse types of posts I see on the secular side (where I have been guilty of such rhetoric myself). Why can’t we have a conversation instead of a brawl here?

  • Michael, “love” without TRUTH is just another LIE! Jesus had no problem speaking the cold hard solid life changing TRUTH. Coddling and tolerance of sin is what is destroying this nation. We had better get real knowledgable about evil and good, because we are told to hate the one and love the other but very few people can bring themselves to say unequivocally what EVIL is. I really think the Father is tired of our wishy washy attempts at destroying evil. It time to get truth and stand on it without wavering. God hates wavering and lukewarmness.

    • rishi

      Muslim hater dirty kuffar natanyahoo’s dikk sukker

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