Don’t Sell Your Soul Defending the Words of President Trump

Loyalty does not require blind allegiance.

President Donald Trump answers a question about health care during a meeting with the 2016 World Series Champions Chicago Cubs, Wednesday, June 28, 2017, in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington.

By Michael Brown Published on June 30, 2017

I’m all for defending our president when he’s the subject of unjust attacks. And as a follower of Jesus, I voted for him, despite my misgivings. I’m also happy to point out the many good things he’s already done as president. But I won’t sacrifice my ethics and demean my faith to defend his wrongful words. To do that is to lose all credibility before a watching world.

Plenty of Christians and non-Christians had a hard time understanding how so many of us evangelicals could vote for a candidate who seemed to be so thoroughly un-evangelical. We explained that we were voting against Hillary, that Supreme Court appointees were important to us, and that Trump seemed to care about religious liberties. Many of the perplexed then understood our vote. They see that we’re not whitewashing him or denying his faults. Some dissenters can even respect our choice.

But when we find it necessary to defend his every word, we discredit ourselves and tarnish our witness.

The President’s Indefensible Attack

What prompted me to pen this article was the recent series of Trump tweets regarding MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski. The president wrote:

In response to this, I tweeted:

Really now, for the most powerful elected official on the planet to call liberal newscasters “Psycho Joe” and “low I.Q. Crazy Mika” is indefensible. (Let’s not even discuss the “bleeding” reference and where that leads.) And to defend him — I mean for us to defend him as Christian conservatives — is even less defensible.

We can be loyal to the president and still be ashamed of such language. We can support him and still say, “Mr. President, you demean yourself with such behavior. You’ll never get the respect you desire if you sink so low.” In fact, that’s what real loyalty and support looks like.

But when we find it necessary to stand up for him, as if he’s the weak little victim being attacked by these terrible giants, we also demean ourselves. And what if it was your son or daughter or spouse or parent that the president was attacking with such language? How would you feel? When he does this, he ultimately hurts himself.

There is No Trump-Jesus Comparison

One man responded to my tweet saying, “This perfect Savior had a very blue collar flavor which we try to scrub away with our sensibilities. Newscasters need accountability too.”

First, no one is denying that newscasters need accountability. There’s a slew of conservative newscasters blasting liberals day and night (and vice versa). Second, and more importantly, it’s ridiculous and almost obscene to compare our perfect Savior’s rebukes of sinners with the president calling TV journalists Psycho and Crazy.

When we find it necessary to defend his every word, we discredit ourselves and tarnish our witness.

But this man who tweeted to me was not the only one to make the Trump-Jesus comparison. At least two ministers defended Trump on my Twitter account. One compared Trump’s words to those of Jesus and Paul. (I’m just referencing them here rather than posting their tweets here; perhaps they’ve had a change of heart. You know things are really bad when ministers of the gospel compare Trump’s worst words to those of Jesus.)

One Christian woman was indignant with me: “You’ve gone too far!  You Sir, are not God Almighty and do not speak for Him!”

I’ve gone too far by saying we ought not defend the president’s childlike words? I’ve gone too far in suggesting that the president would do well to read what Proverbs says about the conduct of kings? (I tweeted out the Proverbs reference during the interaction.) I’ve gone too far in saying that we, as followers of Jesus, should find these tweets embarrassing?

Another wrote, “No need to be ashamed, hope he keeps it up.” Yes, I hope that the president keeps disparaging people in the crudest, most immature manner. I’m cheering you on!

Still another added: “Christians don’t look at the faults of a person just the answer to them. Not ashamed of a person who doesn’t hide their emotions.”

I wonder what these Christians would be saying if Hillary Clinton were our president and she was the one ridiculing conservative newscasters in such crass terms?

Then there were those who felt sorry for Mr. Trump. They tweeted that the media is not fair to him and that he gets death threats all the time. Surely he has to protect himself!

What if Trump’s Words Had Come From Obama?

Once again, such responses boggle the mind. He is the most protected man on the planet, and to my knowledge, these newscasters are not trying to kill him. And how, pray tell, is he defending himself by calling them ugly names? If they misrepresent him, he can set the record straight, but he need not throw mud in their faces. The mud he throws will only splatter back. And the best way to push back against his critics is to push forward with the agenda they hate.

But for us to defend his every tweet is to make ourselves into stooges more than supporters, helping no one in the end.

It is ridiculous and almost obscene to compare our perfect Savior’s rebukes of sinners with the president calling TV journalists Psycho and Crazy.

This week, Ann Coulter attacked Sean Hannity, writing, “Sean Hannity, bless his heart, has the zeal of the late Trump convert. He would endorse communism if Trump decided to implement the policies of ‘The Communist Manifesto.’ (Which the GOP’s health care bill actually does!)”

I will leave that battle to them, but the reminder for us is that loyalty does not require blind allegiance.

So, if you’re a Christian conservative, put the shoe on the other foot, and ask yourself how you’d be feeling had President Obama gone after, say, Rush Limbaugh and Laura Ingraham like this. Would you be defending him?

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  • Dean Bruckner

    It’s always all about you, Dr. Brown, isn’t it?

    • john appleseed

      Your avatar is quite appropriate, considering your constant state of confusion.

      • Dean Bruckner

        What does this comment have to do with you trying to be perfect?

  • I was watching “Morning Joe” Thursday morning. I usually flip back and forth between MSNBC and CNN until “Washington Journal” comes on C-SPAN. Joe and Mika were poking fun at Trump because of the fake Time Magazine cover that he had framed and hung on walls all over Mar-a-Lago. They dared question Trump’s constant self-glorification and his insatiable need for validation. I often wonder about that myself, and it’s just one of many reasons why I didn’t vote for him. More than anything, Morning Joe is a political opinion talk show. It is NOT a newscast, any more than Fox & Friends. Trump should have just let it slide, but instead he had this temper tantrum on Twitter. It was so utter juvenile of him.

    Donald Trump is everything I find utterly repugnant in a human being. I could not vote for him if he was a Democrat, and this latest tirade reminds me WHY. And I am mystified why self-described Christians who would NEVER exhibit behavior like this are so infinitely forgiving just because it’s Donald Trump.

    • Gary

      If you attack Trump, he attacks you back. That’s who he is. It does not bother me.

      • Karen

        Why is this? The tiny-handed baby man can’t take criticism at all. This is a terrible trait in anyone, especially a powerful person.

        • True. He is the exemplification of “snowflake.”

          • Dant e

            He`s like a strange kind of magnet to snowflakes, they find him irresistible and yet are simultaneously repulsed by him.

        • Gary

          Why is Trump like he is? I don’t know. Don’t you like diversity?

          • Oh of course. A spoiled brat in the Oval Office is just “diversity.” Gotcha.

          • Gary

            Trump isn’t the first one of those to be President.

          • Rob Ward

            And you voted HRC?

          • Paul

            Gary, we don’t always see eye to eye but that there was funny 🙂

          • Gary

            Thanks. Liberals are always promoting diversity, but there’s a limit to the kinds of diversity they like.

        • Thomas Paine

          I think there is fair minded policy criticisms founded on reasoned arguments and differences, then there are Mika and Joe type criticisms like “tiny-handed baby man” or simply that he is a smuck, goon, creep, crook. This show is like the “cool kids table” in high school criticizing all of the uncool kids based on style, looks, et al and never on policy substance. He fires back (likely out of frustration) and they can’t seem to take it.

        • GPS Daddy

          So Karen, you say that name-calling is a terrible trait in anyone yet you just slammed Trump…

          How does that make you feel about yourself to do the very thing you say is a “terrible” trait Trump?

    • GPS Daddy

      Well, Chuck, I can understand why you are confused as to how Christians voted for him. I think Dr Brown has made the case clear in several articles to include this one.

      Let me ask this: are you really confused or this that just a play on words to indicate that you think Christians are dumb?

    • Dean Bruckner

      Chuck finally came out of his safe space!

    • Wesley

      it is hard enough to figure out why Evangelicals voted for him in the first place. the very fact that they continue to defend his tantrums makes me wonder if they are nothing more than a political lobby and voting bloc.

  • Paul

    Trump is the guy who says what others think but are too chicken to say. Then the talking heads do their best impersonation of Edvard Munch’s The Scream and condemn him for it.

    I’m reminded of a Bush 42 hot mic incident where he leans to Cheney calling a particular reporter an a__hole. When confronted by his detractors he expressed his regret the mic was on.

    What’s funny about this latest Trump inflamation is I have yet to hear anyone question the accuracy of his statements, all the angst is over the fact he said it.

    • Hannah

      Agreed. I’m a Christian and while I don’t like everything he does, I realize that he’s our President, not our pastor. I’ve hired him to fix our country and he’s done that exceptionally well thus far. He’s got the freedom to tweet whatever he wishes. I might not like all of it, but that’s between him and God. I did pull back a bit when I saw the tweet in question, but I think you hit the nail right on the head – like many other Americans, I’m sick and tired of PC culture, and it thrills me to no end how he’s been brave enough to rise above the crowds and say what everyone else is wanting to say. He may not be always right, but again, he’s been hired to do a job and I’ve been quite pleased with all I’ve seen.

      • Linda

        Excuse me? Rise above the crowd and say “low I.Q.”, “crazy”, “psycho”, “facelift”, etc. I don’t know who your friends are but mine don’t sit around thinking those things about tv anchors.

        • Hannah

          He who is without sin can cast the first stone. If you’ve said things like this to people or even about people, your outrage is skewed.

          • Clark Coleman

            You have no idea what Jesus meant when he said “He who is without sin, cast the first stone.” You have bought into a modern interpretation based on moral relativism.

          • Hannah

            Thank you for assuming that I know nothing about anything due to my age. When I quoted that verse, I was referring to its exegetical meaning which innotates that if you demand punishment for a sin that you yourself commit, you are a hypocrite of the worst kind and ought to be in the ring with the offender. In this case, many people are faux outraged at the President punching back at those who have called for his death. They behave as though they are innocent in this. They are not.

            As for my not understanding PC culture, I’m not so young that I am ignorant of its meaning or how it is used in this day and age. To say my age keeps me from fully comprehending it is a logical fallacy. You cannot understand what it is like to live during the time of the Civil War, but that doesn’t keep you from knowing that many died and that it was a terrible time. When you’re accusing someone like that, it’s considered logically sound to offer examples of the alleged offenses so that the person can either learn from it or present a rebuttal. Empty accusations just make you look foolish and uneducated.

          • Clark Coleman

            No one said anything about your age. I have no idea how old you are.

            Your interpretation of Jesus’ words is that every single accuser of the adulterous woman was also an adulterer, i.e. guilty of the same crime? How can this be supported from the text? Are you the only interpreter with this unsubstantiated interpretation?

          • Hannah

            Your saying “like many people today, you don’t know….” was what I believed to be an assault on my youth. If such was not the case, I apologize.

            Again, lobbing questions phrased like those above gives off a distinct air of pretentiousness – not very Christ-like. If you know your Bible history, the Pharisees were doers of the Law but only that. If it required them to be openly righteous, they were on board. Despite that, their hearts were, as Jesus adeptly described, “white-washed tombs.” One observation of the passage where this verse comes from is that this prostitute was well-known to the Pharisees present, which couples rather well with their original intent to test Jesus. When He has said to them, “Let the one without sin cast the first stone,” this gave the Pharisees pause. They knew that not only were they all without sin, but it’s highly likely that they knew that if one of them did throw the stone, there’d be some of their own number who would call them out. So they dropped their rocks and walked away.

            Now, I’m no Bible scholar, but then again, God employed a fisherman to become an apostle, not to mention we’re taught that we’re to study the Word and hide it in our hearts. In school, I was blessed with Bible classes from 8th grade to 12th. In 8th grade, 9th grade, and 11th grade, I got to study the Gospels and follow Jesus’ ministry verse by verse. In those three years, I was shown that in that instance as well as the one with the woman who washed Jesus’ feet, the Pharisees’ outcry was twofold: initially, they were angered by Jesus’ transparency and point-blank approach to teaching, but their other cause for concern was that like many other times, their sin was in the room, staring at them. If you look at the Scripture with that lens, it makes sense to say that a core teaching of that verse was that Jesus was calling out the sin that they were demanding prosecution for in another. Now, it’s also plausible to take from the text that Jesus was calling their bluff, but it would be erroneous to say that the two cannot exist together. But that’s just my take on the matter.

            Sorry for the length; hope this clears up some things! 😀

      • Clark Coleman

        Like many people today, you have no idea what PC is. PC does not mean politeness, and every act of rudeness is not a defiance of PC.

    • Linda

      Who is going to comment on the accuracy of saying “low I.Q.”, “crazy”, “psycho”, and “bleeding from a face-lift”. Who expects a president to use those words? Bush 42’s “as*hole” comment is funny, innocuous and a one-of. No comparison.

      • Paul

        If there’s a little voice inside Trump it is saying to go for the jugular on those who cross him. That has been his long standing pattern. That’s what makes the latest round of outrage hilarious, these tweets are mild in comparison to previous inflammatory comments. Liberal brains are oozing from their ears trying to understand how a guy who brags privately about grabbing women and dissing on a POW got elected. They seize at any opportunity to be outraged at this character but the people aren’t buying what you’re selling. They are asking where was the outrage at Hillary’s lies and deceit? Silence at Hillary’s illegal server, her compromised classified info and obstruction of justice but now cry for Trump to resign because he insulted a pair of liberal mouthpiece reporters. There’s a collective yawn happening across America at the fake outrage, Trump insulted someone else, par for the course.

        • Hannah

          And this coming a day before we got video evidence of Carr saying Kellyanne Conway looks like she got hit in the face with a shovel. Not saying either is more or less right, but I’d rather have a President who’s not afraid to speak his mind when he and his family are ruthlessly insulted by the lower rung of society.

          • Paul

            Where is the outrage at Carr? Ain’t happening

        • Clark Coleman

          So, if the biased news media fail to criticize Hillary as much as they do Trump, that means that Christians should give Trump a pass on his conduct? Perhaps you can explain the “logic” here. What the media do is not going to dictate what my standards of conduct are.

          • Paul

            Trump is who he has always been so I’m not surprised by his tweets or comments. I never expected a thrice married casino and strip club owner to be a choir boy. What he says today is mild in compartison to his previous Howard Stern interviews. The media wants nothing more than to divide and dissolve Trumps base. They are baiting the hook with whatever fake outrage they can muster over the latest tweet or comment that they deem offensive. They aren’t concerned with conduct, it’s a means to the end of pushing their liberal agenda on America. Don’t be suckered into their narrative. Is Trump outrageous at times? Sure, that comes as no surprise. Unfortunately in elections we’re absent the luxury of building the perfect candidate and are left to often choose the proverbial lesser of two evils. If the election were rerun today I’d easily choose Trump over Clinton, I’ll take his Constitutional originalist SCOTUS picks, border security, travel bans, energy independence, infrastructure building and outrageous behavior over Hillary’s globalism, socialism, treason and deceit.

            We can desire a toned down Trump all we want. He could be the most mild mannered person from this day forward and the media attacks and subterfuge would not subside.

          • Clark Coleman

            None of your comments address the point. The question asked by the article is why a Christian must DEFEND what Trump says when he says depraved things. I voted for Trump. I am glad he is President instead of Hillary. But I don’t have to defend his every tweet. Why should I?

          • Paul

            The article doesn’t ask that question, but even if it did I’m not its author.

    • Wesley

      the is no Bush 42 for the 42nd president was Bill Clinton. George H W Bush was 41 and George W Bush was 43.

  • Jason Baker

    While I agree there was no point to Trump’s tweet, comparing Limbaugh and Ingraham to Mika and Joe is laughable.

    • john appleseed

      He used them as examples. Examples don’t have to be equal in every way. If you disagree, you’ll find Jesus’ parables “laughable.”

      • Jason Baker

        That is an extremely poor example.

        • Clark Coleman

          Why is it a poor example? Please explain. The principle is the same. Analogies are intended to be only partly comparable, in parables or in other speech.

          • Jason Baker

            Equating parables spoken by Jesus to anything man says is heretical.
            Speaking to the analogy of Mika and Joe to Rush and Laura, please point out to me when Laura or Rush have put forth outright lies? While you may not agree with their ideology, in my experience in listening to them they do not lie and tell half truths. Mika and Joe on the other hand do, in my experience. Therefore, the comparison is not analogues because there is no basis for similarity in the comparison.

          • Clark Coleman

            When discussing STYLES of speech, it is not heretical to compare parables spoken by Jesus with parables spoken by someone else, or analogies spoken by someone else.

            As for Laura and Rush, the point is that conservatives would not appreciate name calling when directed at them.

            You don’t seem to have a basic grasp of analogical reasoning.

          • Jason Baker

            Whatever you say.

  • Bob

    What a sanctimonious and self-righteous column there Michael Brown. Who are you to judge all Christians and tell
    what they should be ashamed of? You appear to wear Jesus like a badge. Joe and Mika have made numerous attacks on the President prior to his response. Where was your column when they personally attacked the President and his family? Absent as usual. While MSNBC engages in “fake news” I fear you engage in “fake outrage”.

    • john appleseed

      What a sanctimonious and self-righteous comment, Bob! Who are you to judge Dr Brown and tell
      what he should be ashamed of? Where was your comment when people personally attacked Dr Brown? I fear you engage in “fake outrage”.
      If you have a conscience, Bob, you’ll see how, from me using your own words against you, you make absolutely no sense.

      • Jim Walker

        Ditto

    • Wesley

      Trump’s real enemy in the media is Donald J Trump himself with all his childish remarks and his obsession with defending all his actions at all cost. remember when he fired Comey. if he fired Comey in the first week no one would complain instead he fired him over three months into his term leading many to conclude it was retaliation firing for the Russia investigation. he tweets defending his decision lead more people to believe it was retaliation.

    • Clark Coleman

      Bob, are you “judging” Michael Brown’s words? Is it OK for you to “judge” Michael Brown’s words and Joe and Mika’s words? You have bought into an anti-Christian moral relativism in which everything is just opinion and no one can pass judgment on the words of another … and then you hypocritically do the same, because it is unavoidable. We all have to judge what we hear, without eternally judging the speakers of what we hear.

  • Howard Rosenbaum

    Sure, a soft answer turns away wrath & by many words a fool is known. While Trump is no fool ( tweets don’t allow for too many words ) He is also not yet the biggest proponent of the “soft answer” instruction. Maybe he never will be. While his celebrated tweet may have lacked for tact & poetic expression, it certainly didn’t want for impact. That is precisely the
    objective & Trump accomplished that . Presidential ..? Certainly not. At least not by most politically correct norms. That is precisely the point. That was a considerable factor in Trumps successful campaign. Why should we expect a “yuge” change in personality ?
    Particularly when these characteristics contributed to his presidential victory. Look, as w/everything else in life, things change. It’s a process. Seems like even the MSM will have to face the inevitable changes that will be required if they hope to discover journalistic integrity, regardless of their political leanings. Outside of being rude, it seems like Trumps tweet to his detractors is relevant . Hey, even Jesus called his detractors names they were clearly not in favor of. He almost could have been accused of profanity. “White washed walls”, “you’re of your father the devil”, “false teachers’ (liars) & many others. “Dogs”, “wolves”& servants” were also favorite metaphors of the Master. As long as Trump refrains from crude references to his detractors flaws & from obscene language ( unlike his antagonists ) his popularity among his supporters will continue. While clearly not as skilled or as wise as the Master & falling somewhat short of His compassion , Trump is nevertheless on a mission. One that seems to be moving forward in spite of his appreciative lack of social graces & political correctness …

    • SophieA

      As always, spot on response to the heart of this matter. Thank you.

      • Howard Rosenbaum

        You are most astute ….
        Appreciate the affirmation .

        • SophieA

          Your posts are grounded with the unswerving insight that the answer to our problems is always the life of Jesus.

          • john appleseed

            *facepalm*
            Are you two done patting each other on the back?
            If you can’t tell the difference between Jesus’ love-motivated constructive criticism & Trump’s vicious rants against physical appearance, I’m wasting my time writing this.

          • Howard Rosenbaum

            Correct, You are wasting your time – but not for the reason you suggest. Seems your willingness to discern between fact & fiction has been compromised by the MSM & your probable political bias.
            Unlike the interpretive sensationalist propaganda viewers of “Morning Joe” are treated to on a daily basis, my objective simply was to contrast Trumps tweeting performances w/scripturally verifiable examples of Jesus’s critiques of those who ignorantly opposed Him. Reread the last two sentences of my post if you’re not convinced of the distinction made between The Lord & the POTUS. Especially where discernment is a necessary prerequisite for understanding. Oh, & no “facepalm” is required ….

          • SophieA

            Lighten up. I meant in no way to insult Dr Brown. I simply found a renewed understanding from HR’s post and wanted to relate it to him. Perhaps you should reconsider rashly judging your fellow members in Christ so unfairly.

  • Andy6M

    I agree with you Dr. Brown! It is fine and reasonable to support Trump as President, and it is fine and reasonable to defend the actions that he takes that are wise and right. But we must not lose our heads and think that everything the man says and does is sacrosanct. It is also fine and reasonable to show our disgust when he acts poorly.

  • Nelson Banuchi

    I see two way in which Trump supporters defend his ill- language:

    – When Trump engages in ill behavior, being unable to deny such behavior, Trump surrogates and supporters justify his actions by pointing out the perceived ill behavior of others, especially that of Clinton and Obama.

    – When Trump engages in ill language as exemplified in his tweets, Trump surrogates and supporters attempt to explain what Trump meant by changing the definition of words and either going beyond the clear plain meaning of his sentences.

    I think one of the problems some Christians have is separating “conservative” or “Republican” from “Christian,” melting these labels together as one thing and to deny the former two is to deny the latter.

    • AndRebecca

      You must have missed all the crude ads for Obama by the Hollywood Left, and the “Women’s” march in Washington a while back. The outburst from Madonna. Obama himself used curse words when in the company of certain people and it’s on video and tape. The self-proclaimed “Nasty Women” and the poem that Ashley Judd read, The vagina hats and all curse words used by the media people lately. Trump has never said or done anything worse than the protestors against him in or out of the media. Trump has a twitter account and you can access all of his tweets, especially the great ones which the Left would not want you to see.

      • john appleseed

        Any reasonable criticism of Trump is inevitably met with “But Obama!”
        Whatever. Obama was awful. Trump is awful … in a different way.

        • Linda

          The new comeback is to say “liberal party lines” to anyone who broaches any question or criticism. Instead of recognizing that if hundreds of people express the same concern or doubt then maybe there’s something there.

          • AndRebecca

            Wow, a team of liberals commenters! Yes, the MSM and their left-wing cohorts like Michael Moore make sure everyone hears whatever they have to say about our president. They make gobs of money being anti-Trump. Soros and other one percenters fund them well.

        • AndRebecca

          So you think the attacks I mentioned above are reasonable? Trump was attacked on that morning show by people who had befriended him and then turned on him. He gets death threats along with many other Republicans. Are you O.K. with death threats?

      • Nelson Banuchi

        You just confirmed the first way I mentioned as an example of how Trump supporters defend him. Thank you. Much appreciated.

        • AndRebecca

          Great, glad to be of service. Trump is a great guy and is being attacked all over the place for no reason. I enjoy defending great people and even underdogs when attacked.

          • Nelson Banuchi

            I do not believe Trump is a “great guy” and he’s the one doing all the attacking. Apparently, perhaps not surprising, it seems to me that my comments went over your head or you hadn’t carefully perceived the sarcasm in my previous response.

            You’re only just further providing evidence to the extreme bias of those who support Trump at the expense of reality.

            Again, thanks!

          • Hannah

            Insulting her doesn’t prove you to be the victor in this, either. “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”

          • Nelson Banuchi

            You sure you’re responding to the right thread? I read all the comments on this thread and no one is insulting anybody. If you can point to me where the insult is, that would help.

          • Hannah

            Either someone deleted something, or I’m blind. Probably both. Apologies!

          • Nelson Banuchi

            Been there; done that. Apology accepted. Thanks!

          • contifi

            You should re-read what you wrote if you’re having trouble finding the insults.

          • Nelson Banuchi

            No, the one who made the accusation has the burden of proof. And, if you will note Hannah’s response, apparently she may have read someone else’s comments.

          • AndRebecca

            I’m happy to be of service. I understood everything you said. I think Trump is a great guy and knows what is going on in the country and is doing his best to get the slow among us to see the problems. Anyone can see the “news” coming out of the MSM or get on any of the Left-wing sites and what is really going on. The country and Trump has been under attack for quite some time, and it has been really bad since January. Gosh, maybe you’ll get it someday.

          • Nelson Banuchi

            Okay…

          • Nelson Banuchi

            But just to be clear, so you are aware that you just responded in a way that I stated Trump supporters respond where I stated, “When Trump engages in ill behavior, being unable to deny such behavior, Trump surrogates and supporters justify his actions by pointing out the perceived ill behavior of others, especially that of Clinton and Obama.”

            You are aware that your argument admits that Trump doesn’t exemplify having any integrity but is is as equally corrupt in comparison to other corrupt persons?

            I’m not sure that such an argument as you propose, which proves my point, helps…

          • AndRebecca

            Just to be clear, as far as I’m concerned Trump did not engage in ill behavior. Tit for tat is not ill behavior. If two people go on T.V. and slander you, feel free to say whatever you want back at them. You have my permission…And now you are bringing in corruption. Saying horrible things about the president for a profit is corrupt. Him fighting back is not. The MSM used to slander W Bush and he never said anything. That approach did not make Bush look good in my eyes… I don’t know why you are having such a problem with this… SCOTUS, during the first Bush administration deemed it O.K. to say any lie you want about a public official. At the time a horrible cartoon about Bush was in print and he took it court and they sided with the slanderers. So, Trump can’t take them to court, but he sure can tweet. You should see his account. 35 million plus people are followers. Whitehouse . gov is great as well.

          • Nelson Banuchi

            Whether “tit for tat,” or not, Trump’s behavior as POTUS is unacceptable; it might be acceptable for street gang leaders but not for the office of the POTUS.

            If Bush was silent, it was not because he was a fool but because he recognized the moral responsibility of one who takes the office of POTUS. I applaud his silence. And again, you are using one’s ill behavior to approve of Trump’s and thus admitting Trump’s behavior is wrong and proving my first point regarding how Trump supporters defend him.

            Unfortunately, you seem to prefer and comment the man who behaves immaturely and childishly.

            35 million people on one’s Twitter account does not make one worthy of the office of POTUS.

          • AndRebecca

            You are entitled to your own opinions, even though they are wrong. I did not call Bush a fool. You read into things. President Trump is on my side so I will defend him. You wouldn’t like him no matter what because you are on the other side. You don’t care for Christians or conservatives or Republicans, and are on this site to straighten all of us wrong-headed ones out. Even more reason for me to defend Trump. I’m glad the MSM kept at him for his tweets because it caused me to look them up. Great tweets!

          • Nelson Banuchi

            Btw, regarding your not saying Bush is a fool, you are right, at least, not in so many words, but your comment that “The MSM used to slander W Bush and he never said anything. That approach did not make Bush look good in my eyes,” can easily be construed as to suggest as such. Again, not saying that was your intent, but your comment can lead to that conclusion.

            As far as your further comments, they are ad hominem arguments that need no refutation as such only demonstrate that you have conceded the argument.

            (Btw, just for your personal info should we ever meet on some other site, I am a Christian and, if labels are necessary, I am conservative – no liberal would label me anything other than conservative – and I was a Republican having voted only for Republican candidates), even for Rubio in 2016.

          • AndRebecca

            Construe away. Since when do personal arguments concede anything? I’ve used all kinds of arguments and you don’t understand any of them. You have a mind block. As for whether you are a Christian or not, or anything else, I’m only going by what you’ve stated here. And by what you’ve stated, you know better than conservative, Republican Christians. That would indicate you are not any of the three.

          • Nelson Banuchi

            Your “many” arguments were of one kind: to justify the ill behavior of one by the ill behavior of others.

            To suggest that I am saying I know better than others is and obvious misreading of what I have stated. Unfortunately, you seem to obviously be stretching the intended meaning of my comments.

            Since you could not be convincing with such an obviously weak argument, you resorted to ad hominem attacks.

            Now, you are resorting to unwarranted negative judgment of character.

            As a Christian, you may have forgotten that Jesus, though he did not forbid making proper and warranted judgments, he did forbid making unsubstantiated judgments, especially as such judgments demonstrate hypocrisy.

            As you seem rather to desire ad hominem arguments rather than coherent and mature discussion, I will cease to the exchange.

          • AndRebecca

            I don’t think his tweets are ill! I think they are deserved. As far as your comments, I’m pretty much going by what you said in your first paragraph. You have made negative judgments of character of both me and other Christians. And in this last paragraph as well. And, you obviously now have to make a Christian argument and can’t, so end of discussion. For your information, if you look Trump’s Bio up on Wikipedia, you as a Christian should find at least two other things in his past which should bother you more than his tweets. And yet crickets out of you or the left on his real non-Christian behavior. Most Christians, when it comes to Trump, prefer his political stances and judicial appointments and decrees far better than what HRC would doing at this point in time. Everything he’s done is far more Christian than the alternative. I like his stances on everything and he is getting things done, like rolling back what Obama did and lots more.

    • Benny Ehud

      A lot of “Christians” want to absorb Christianity into their “conservative” or “Republican” views rather than adapting their “conservative” and “Republican” views to fit Christianity. Their Conservative/Republican values are more important or just as important than Christians values to a lot them.

    • Hmmm…

      of course, that’s right, that Christian stands higher and separate from those worldly orders.

  • Ernest Cline

    Don’t sell your soul in a fruitless effort at impeccability.

    • john appleseed

      Jesus commanded us to be perfect. So we should try to be.

      • Anne Fernandes

        Yup, but in His recitation of “perfect”, He knew we could not be perfect. And there’s no condemnation in our failure. So, your use of the word “try” is correct, and implies imperfection. I’m not hooked to Trump, the man. I’m hooked to Trump, the man allowed into office by God.

  • Patmos

    With all the garbage and lies thrown at him, President Trump has shown remarkable restraint, even with these recent tweets.

    The media should be called out, made to look like fools, because in large part that’s what they are. Their bias is through the roof.

    Jesus called Herod a fox, and even compared a Syrophoenician woman to a dog. A little lax is in order.

    • Benny Ehud

      Restraint? What restraint? He is a pathetic human being.

      • Patmos

        Restraint relative to the circumstances. He’s been the target of constant assault, starting with the most cunning and ruthless political family of the last 25+ years in the Clintons, and ending with a political scene in DC that is plagued with a cronyism that extends into the intelligence agencies, justice department, and media.

        A swift kick to the gonads is sometimes what’s needed. When Jesus when to confront the money changers in the temple, he did not say, “Excuse me sirs, would you mind taking your business elsewhere?”

        • Benny Ehud

          Presidents get attacked. Obama’s wife was routinely compared to an ape or monkey. Bush was relentlessly attacked. They don’t act like this despicable human being.

          Trump is not Jesus. Let that go. His situation is nothing like that of Jesus’.

          • Patmos

            “Presidents get attacked.”

            Not like Trump has been attacked. Not even close.

            “Trump is not Jesus. Let that go.”

            I’m not going to “let that go” because I never held onto it. Try reading what I wrote again.

          • Benny Ehud

            Nobody has been attacked like Trump? Are you serious? Right-wing radio made Obama look like Satan. Obama has been accused of being a Jew-hater, anti-Israel, hater of Christianity, a foreign-born entity, wife called a gorilla. Come on, now.

            Trump accused Obama of being born in Kenya. Then he lied about sending people to Hawaii to check Obama’s birth certificate. He accused Obama of not having good grades at school. He questioned how Obama even got into Harvard. He called Ted Cruz’s wife ugly. Trump called Marco Rubio “Little Marco”. That was jab at his height. He called Carly Fiorina ugly. You cannot be serious about Trump whining. He has done more attacking than any president in the last 40 yrs and has received no more scrutiny than any others. If he lies, he should be called out on his lies. That’s not attacking someone.

          • Patmos

            Uh, Obama was anti-Israel (stabbed them in the back at the end), and a hater of Christianity (left thousands of them out to dry by letting ISIS grow and not acknowledging the religious persecution taking place), and you’re comparing right wing radio to the liberal dominated multi media machine that has been trying to undermine Trump since he became the Republican candidate? The same media that turned a blind eye to Obama’s disastrous middle east record that left hundreds of thousands dead? The same media that stood idly by as James Comey announced Hillary’s offense of gross negligence, while saying she would not be charged? So where do you get your news exactly, by perusing the headlines of The Huffington Post? You’re exactly what they want, great job.

          • Benny Ehud

            I’m not about to get into a debate on whether Obama was anti-Israel or anti-Christian. I am telling you that it was said. He was also called a Jew-hater. Now, no one ever has said he has made one antisemitic remark…not one. Yet, he was called a Jew-hater. . Barack was ROUTINELY attacked by Limbaugh, Fox News, Newsmax, Breitbart, Laura Ingraham, Savage, etc. The list goes on and on.He didn’t go Twitter and personally attack any one.

            Was Hillary president? You are complaining about media bias. No one is saying that the media isn’t bias. Conservative media excoriates Democrats. But the Obama never attacked any one personally. Bush didn’t, either.

          • Linda

            Do you realize that your vitriolic responses when anyone throws the least bit of shade on Trump do more to sicken and turn them even further away from him? You have made yourself his defender-in-chief but he is everyone’s President and people who read The Stream and comment on the articles are allowed to question his fitness for office and criticize the things he says. The way some people jump to his defence every time is evidence of a cult.

          • Jim Walker

            Obama’s brith cert is indeed a forgery.
            If Ted and Marco had moved on and support Trump why can’t you?

          • Benny Ehud

            I’m not a Republican…or an idiot. That’s why.

          • Jim Walker

            Your sentence just insulted and attacked all republicans. So if they responded with an attack at you they are the aggressors and you’re the victim? How convenient.

          • Benny Ehud

            I don’t mind Republicans attacking me. I used to go on Breitbart daily during the campaign. I routinely got called names.

            You asked why I wouldn’t come on board for Trump. I said I am not a Republican, nor am I an idiot. So, there’s no reason for me to get on board with Trump. I don’t see how that was me attacking all Republicans. You either have to be a Republican or an idiot to get on board with Trump. I don’t think Ted Cruz or Rubio are idiots. I think they are Republicans, and that’s why they got on board.

          • Louise C

            There’s no comparison. The MSM, the entertainment industry, dems, bloody decapitated head…Half of the country hates him, lots of talk about assassination.

          • Benny Ehud

            You act like this guy is saint. He’s racist, bigoted, misogynistic individual who degrades people. You all act like we are dealing with a normal human being here. Seriously, this guy is a lunatic. This isn’t about Republican/Dems, conservative/liberal, religious/non-religious. This is about a horrible human being.

          • Louise C

            No he’s not a saint and neither was obama. Like I said, there’s no comparison to they way the current president and the last one was treated.

          • Benny Ehud

            I agree, to a point. One was treated horribly for no reason. Trump, however, is a nutcase who brings it upon himself. ZTrump’s the most pathetic president in at least the last 55 yrs.

      • Jim Walker

        When you have the MSM, the Dems, the Hollowood, the Reps, even the world leaders attacking you, you’d probably be in a mental hospital in a restraint jacket.

        • Benny Ehud

          Well, I am not mentally unstable like Trump. So, I wouldn’t need to be in restraints.

    • Jim Walker

      You left out Pharisees “snakes and brood of vipers”.

  • Linda

    Cult

  • Donna Sims Howell

    It’s fear… The tweeting is very upsetting to me. I do believe it’s beneath the dignity of the office, but it’s more than that. I believe he is being constantly baited (Mika even admitted that) and he is playing into their hands. That disturbs me in that it goes to his strength of character and his intelligence. Back to why I believe this is fear on the part of Christians and other conservatives.. As much as this may turn our stomachs, what absolutely terrifies us is the alternative. For eight years Barack Obama grinned into the camera and eloquently “lied” to us, over and over. He has literally sold our country out. But he did it with a smile and a lie. He stirred up racial division more, I believe than ever before. He pitted blacks, and all of the LGBT community against the white person.. We are still languishing in the effects of that. He pitted EVERYONE who was not a conservative or Christian against the Christian. He has attempted to make Islam and the Gay agenda a part of our children’s and grandchildren’s school curriculum. He placed our children in danger by forcing his “no gender” policies on us. Our military was weakened. Our debt higher than ever. Hillary Clinton was poised to continue this agenda. When God intervened in November it was such a ray of hope. The hope we had been missing. If we appear to be closed mouthed about his immature tweeting, it’s because we are making a choice. We choose to swallow what we must, even though the taste is bitter in the hope that we will not be thrust into the hands of the very people who seek to destroy us.

  • tz1

    The problem is you have no shame. If you bothered listening to what Joe (who abandoned his family) and Mika (New world order as daughter of Mr. Zbig), you would have tweeted a hundred times how THEY should be ashamed, or worse, going to hell.

    The reason there is an alt-right is all the PULLED PUNCHES BY PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

    You only complain gently and indirectly against the left although look at Planned Parenthood and what they do in their abortion clinics. How many tweets telling them they should be ashamed.

    How many tweets bringing shame upon the politicians that fine and destroy Christians for not baking a gay wedding cake or providing flowers?

    You, yourself have defined deviancy down. “Be ashamed” of Trump’s boorish tweets because they are as bad or worse as ripping babies limb from limb and selling their organs?

    Have you no shame yourself? Have you no conscience?

    Why are two tweets by Trump today somehow far worse than the DOZENS of calumnies and insults both Joe and Mika have hurled at Trump over the last few months?

    Or didn’t you notice?

    Trump was the bystander being beaten by a thug and after a dozen punches, he finally punches back, and you complain about the punch back.

    You aren’t even involved and you yourself aren’t “turning the other cheek” while insisting Trump do that.

    Sometimes it is the right time to fight. Like La Ponto where our Lady of victory prevailed. The Crusades. How much abuse, how many punches, how much lost territory until you would suggest punching back?

  • eddiestardust

    I voted for Trump to save my country from the Democrat LGBT crazies who seem to be bent on Obliterating our nation and anyone who they don’t agree with. Yes Trump is flawed, and I too have misgivings about his tweeting. So what do we do? PRAY FOR HIM!

  • Louise C

    I’m not defending the President but I understand why he tweeted as he did. No one is perfect. He’s been attacked relentlessly on a daily basis for months. If someone keeps pushing and pushing, most people will eventually push back.

  • Hmmm…

    There is reference to wasting political capital on some things, but Mr. Trump wastes spiritual authority by engaging on a low level, indirectly. The Bible says any fool will quarrel. Though he has exposure to Christianity, and shows impression with it, and has followed through in loyalty to those who have joined him because of their convictions he supports, he does not show that he has made a personal commitment to God so as to have his spirit. The Bible also speaks of having wisdom from God that your enemies cannot refute, of putting to silence the ignorance of foolish men. This is not done in the carnal brash way of the world, but by righteous conviction. Mr. Trump ducks and weaves, without the eye contact and dignity of those in right standing, speaking from the strength and authority that the spirit of grace and strength supplies.

    • Trump TALKS a good game when it comes to Christianity and the Bible …. but it’s talk simply for the sake of his supporters. If you honestly think that Christianity is a significant factor in his life, I have a bridge to sell you.

      • Hmmm…

        Trump’s talk is part of what gives away his non-commitment status as to Christianity. He speaks of a creator for all and tries to avoid the conflict that cannot be avoided. Christianity is narrow; Jesus said so; you cannot square it with PC correctness or avoid accusers. Jesus asks for all, but he gives his all, and there’s more power and help available from him than most Christians avail themselves of. I disagree therefore about Trump talking a good game; he knows too little and shows it. I do think he is impressed and leans toward the things of God, would like to be a part, but thus far, like many of us before decision time, resists actually selling out. Keep your bridge, sir; you mistook my meaning. Scanning seldom serves. I hope you pray for him; his soul and influence are in the balance. As for me and my house, we’ll follow the Lord, even if it gets so narrow, there appears no place to walk. I’m not in this world without a savior; no matter what …

    • Louise C

      From what I hear he’s new in the Lord. Decipleship takes time

      • Hmmm…

        I’ve heard the report from several trusted sources that he did pray with someone to receive Jesus, but people take a while most of the time to make him Lord and learn his word. However, one can go along with a salvation prayer with someone, with mental assent. I don’t perceive a spiritual element to him, why is he not smitten on the inside when he is so petty and divisive? God knows. You can’t judge that, especially from a distance. He needs continue prayer support for sure. Glad he has infuencers, who likely share good teaching materials with him … It takes more though … He has made a positive move in the right direction.

  • ARB

    I still don’t see why that was out of bounds. Is it really just that any reference to blood whatsoever instantly brings up menstruation to some sick minds or what?

    It’s impossible for me to suggest that such behavior is beneath the office of president when Obama used the office itself–not just Twitter while holding the office–to bash ordinary people like me in a far more vicious way on a regular basis. That’s not to say I approve of his Twitter feuds, they seem like a waste of valuable time, but it’s ridiculous to suggest Trump’s behavior is somehow less than the office after Obama soiled it so.

  • tz1

    I’ve gone too far in suggesting that the president would do well to read what Proverbs says about the conduct of kings?
    Like Solomon killing his (half?) brother after he wanted Abishag?
    I prefer what 1 Samuel 8, saying all the curses of EVEN HAVING A HUMAN KING in the first place, or as verse 7 says:
    7The LORD said to Samuel, “Listen to the voice of the people in regard to all that they say to you, for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me from being king over them.

    I’m doubling down.
    The Bumbling Bush brothers – Jeb! passed “Terri’s Law”, but she still was murdered by a petty judge. Dubya flew back from vacation to sign a piece of paper reminiscent of Pilate washing his hands in his basin saying he was not guilty of the blood of Jesus. Terri died. Clinton sent in the INS to deport the illegal alien Elian Gonzales back to Cuba before the courts could rule.

    TERRI SCHIAVO IS DEAD IF YOU DIDN’T NOTICE, but the Bushes did everything right, obeyed the rules, did everything Marquis of Queensbury.

    You put politeness, appearances, being nice ahead of even the petty disputed rules, much less the law, much less LIFE ITSELF.

    Kill all you want as long as it is the law of the land – abortion or euthnasia – and don’t oppose even that if you are going to be impolite? Since when is being vulgar or nasty (not profane) a sin, much less a mortal sin? Nice is NOT a virtue.

    To return to Solomon, Ecclasties says there is a season and a time to every purpose under heaven. We’ve been “Nice” since before Reagan. 60 million dead babies later, I, personally, am willing to try being nasty. It can’t result in any less innocent blood, less sin, less damnation. Nice gave us gay marriage. Nice gave us the Casey decision. Nice gave us Obamacare. Nice even gave us the Bob Jones U decision, which if the Court is consistent means every church that fails to do gay marriage will lose its tax exemption.

    Jesus wasn’t nice with the moneychangers or the Pharisees. Calling people sons of the devil or a brood of vipers wasn’t nice. But it was accurate. I can find something similar with Peter and Paul, and even read St. Stephen’s speech in Acts.

    We are not called to be nice.

    We are called to the truth incarnate. Sometimes that requires uncouth, vulgar, impolite rhetoric. Especially against unrepentant people who need at least a verbal slap or two to be redeemed from eternal damnation.

    Perhaps Trump’s tweet will help redeem Joe and Mika. God knows the “nice Christians” aren’t telling them they are going to hell and will be damned for all eternity.

  • tz1

    Ewww Ewww Ewww, how dare FDR say nasty things against Hitler just because he’s invading everywhere and killing Jews and others, and insulting Tojo just because he bombed Perl Harbor. It is so nasty and impolite!

    The Declaration of independence is not very nice toward George III – do you renounce that nasty, insulting, vulgar document that was signed July 4, 1776?

  • Rob Hanks

    I think the statement, ” loyalty does not require blind allegiance” sums it up quite nicely. And those who continue to defend Trump’s behavior, no matter what he does, are demonstrating their naiveté. When the king comes out in public with no clothes on, we should have the intelligence and moxie to say so. It doesn’t do us nor the king any good if we keep telling him how great he looks.

    • Hmmm…

      right on

    • 54markl

      They are demonstrating what I would be ashamed to demonstrate. Who paid them?

  • ejeff

    I want everything to be torn down! The time is ripe for MSM to be replaced with non-political. honest, actual news sources. Trump’s taunting of the clowns on the news shows doesn’t bother me. My only hesitation is that Mika and Joe were just not worth the attention.

    • 54markl

      Well, that’s Fascism for you.

      • ejeff

        1st, look up fascism before you use the word.

      • ejeff

        It doesn’t seem that you understand what fascism means. Who said the tree of liberty needs to be watered now and then with the blood of tyrants?

  • ejeff

    Don’t sell your soul judging another man’s words.

    • Howard

      I see you have no judgment on Michael Brown’s words.

  • Bill

    I’m sorry, but the bow of the Titanic (ie, our country) was about to go under the water, and some of you people are quibbling about the fact that we are bailing with the champagne buckets. Propriety has its place, but in war, sometimes you must do very harsh and nasty things to win. If you don’t win, nothing else matters. I don’t believe Trump is childishly and emotionally responding to these attacks from MSM. He is engaged in a specific strategy and the tweets must be controversial and outrageous in order for the strategy to succeed. In support of my point, I refer you to the words of Rush Limbaugh from last week:

    “While the media, the anti-Trump media and the Never Trumper media on the right, while they are focused on this singular story of getting rid of Trump either via collusion with Russia or obstruction of justice or firing the FBI director or what have you, while they’re all looking at that daily, while they’re focused on it 24/7, TRUMP IS MOVING HIS AGENDA.”

    “The media is not even trying to stop it directly. They’re still trying to destroy Trump when it comes to Russia, collusion, Comey being fired and all that, which is enabling Trump do an end run. Now, could it be that Trump is feeding this chaos by keeping them focused? And look at the tweets. Trump’s tweets every day are designed to tick them off. Trump’s tweets are designed to just hit them upside the head. Trump’s tweets are designed to trickle into their nostrils and go down their throats and upset their stomachs, and he’s got dead aim on all this.”

    Rush also said that Trump is playing the media the way he plays with his cat with a laser pointer. He’s got them crashing into the furniture chasing that red dot all over the place. The analogy is spot on.

    We are all observing what we can only pray is the imploding and discrediting of the leftist media like CNN, AP, NYT, Wapo, etc. Would this be happening if it were not for Trump stoking their obsession with him by engaging in provocative an outrageous tweets? They are being revealed for who they are in a way that never would’ve happened if Trump remained “above” this kind of behavior. sometimes, you must fight fire with fire. I would prefer that he not have to do this, but it has been made necessary by the persistent leftward, godless drift of this country over the last 50 years.

    By the way, try watching the actual attacks that Scarborough and Breszynski made on Trump. No significant conservative commentator ever made any kind of comment like that regarding Obama. Not Hannity, not Coulter, not rush, not even the more extreme ones like a Levin or even Michael Savage. These people are openly fantasizing about assassinating our president. They need to be smacked, and smacked hard.

  • MorganCourtenay

    A thoughtful and morally consistent article from Dr. Michael Brown. Very much worth reading. I don’t like Trump, neither do I support him. I will defend him where I feel him to be unjustly attacked, but his comments on Twitter were, once again, childish and crass. He should apologize. Covfefe.

  • John Dalton

    Mountains & Mole hills. You wrote all those words ?
    I support Trump 100% and wrecking ball is part of the package.

  • M Didaskalos

    Ronald Reagan was criticized and mocked incessantly (age, intellect, conservative convictions, et al.) by the media and the Left. The difference between his reactions to critics and Trump’s reactions: Reagan was secure enough a man that he could use self-deprecating humor and deft satire to answer his detractors. Three examples come to mind:
    “Thomas Jefferson once said, ‘We should never judge a president by his age, only by his works.’ And ever since he told me that, I stopped worrying.”
    “I have wondered at times what the Ten Commandments would have looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. Congress.”
    “The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.”

  • Bill

    I’m sorry, but the bow of the Titanic (ie, our country) was about to go under the water, and some of you people are quibbling about the fact that we are bailing with the champagne buckets. Propriety has its place, but in war, sometimes you must do very harsh and nasty things to win. If you don’t win, nothing else matters. I don’t believe Trump is childishly and emotionally responding to these attacks from MSM. He is engaged in a specific strategy and the tweets must be controversial and outrageous in order for the strategy to succeed. In support of my point, I refer you to the words of Rush Limbaugh from last week:

    “While the media, the anti-Trump media and the Never Trumper media on the right, while they are focused on this singular story of getting rid of Trump either via collusion with Russia or obstruction of justice or firing the FBI director or what have you, while they’re all looking at that daily, while they’re focused on it 24/7, TRUMP IS MOVING HIS AGENDA.”

    “The media is not even trying to stop it directly. They’re still trying to destroy Trump when it comes to Russia, collusion, Comey being fired and all that, which is enabling Trump do an end run. Now, could it be that Trump is feeding this chaos by keeping them focused? And look at the tweets. Trump’s tweets every day are designed to tick them off. Trump’s tweets are designed to just hit them upside the head. Trump’s tweets are designed to trickle into their nostrils and go down their throats and upset their stomachs, and he’s got dead aim on all this.”

    Rush also said that Trump is playing the media the way he plays with his cat with a laser pointer. He’s got them crashing into the furniture chasing that red dot all over the place. The analogy is spot on.

    We are all observing what we can only pray is the imploding and discrediting of the leftist media like CNN, AP, NYT, Wapo, etc. Would this be happening if it were not for Trump stoking their obsession with him by engaging in provocative and outrageous tweets? They are being revealed for who they are in a way that never would’ve happened if Trump remained “above” this kind of behavior. I would prefer that he not have to do this, but it has been made necessary by the persistent leftward, godless drift of this country over the last 50 years.

    By the way, try watching the actual vile attacks that Scarborough and Breszynski made on Trump. No significant conservative commentator ever made any kind of comment like that regarding Obama. Not Hannity, not Coulter, not rush, not even the more extreme ones like a Levin or even Michael Savage. These people are openly fantasizing about assassinating our president. They need to be smacked, and smacked hard, or Trump ultimately comes off as weak as George W. Bush did when they were savaging him.

    Tweet on, Mr. President.

    • 54markl

      Harsh and nasty things, like Storm Troopers. Yes, I see that very clearly.

  • Rich

    I believe God is simply using President Trump to attack the stronghold of political correctness in this nation. God is so awesome and wise and He and can use anyone for His purposes, and that includes using imperfect vessels like you or me. God does what us all to be so close to Him that we recognize what He is doing and not to fight Him. These are amazing times as God in on the move.

    • 54markl

      Political correctness is against Racism, it’s a no-brainer why you oppose it.

  • Mike Pennington

    I believe Trump is annointed to do a job, like King Cyrus was annointed to do a job. In other words, you don’t have to be a Christian to be used of God, and you don’t have to have someone who behaves to your standards for them to be used of God or for you to support them. If we were talking about a church leader…that would be a different story but we’re talking about the leader of a Constitutional Republic that has mixed religions dwelling in it and wanting fair treatment.

    What we need is someone who can get in there like a wrecking ball and demolish the established anti-Christian system; a person who doesn’t care if they complain, or care if they would support him or not…like Christian leaders do. A person who can be blunt and thoughtless sometimes to make a point. Can you argue that his methods are ineffective? Look at the chaos the MSM is in.

    Trump is tearing down Political correctness. I don’t try to over-analyze his methods like the left constantly does. Do I support his methods? I do not support any of the ungodly things he does; as you say they are often child-like, but we have to admit he is shaking up our broken PC culture.

    When people approach me to complain about how Trump does things I simply say that I would not choose to do things that way, and neither would any of the Christian candidates I could have supported. But I wouldn’t be draining the swamp either, I would be trying to compromise and get people to work together…and so would any of the Christian candidates I could have supported. But the fact is I believe political correctness is far from being fair and it is trying to push Christians out and I decidedly do not support that in any way, shape, or form. I’m glad for a wrecking ball to demolish that.

    There are a lot of swamp creatures who are squealing about the swamp getting drained. There are many supporting them. But we need the swamp drained just like Israel needed to rebuild the temple in Jerusalem. Trump is helping us to restore America to the godly nation it once was just like Cyrus (a pagan) helped Isreal rebuild in Daniel. The prophet Daniel made an alliance with Cyrus…in obedience to God we can make an alliance with Trump without endorsing his methods or agreeing with them.

    We should get behind Trump, and let him do the job he was annointed to do, and when people try to hold us accountable to Trump’s actions, we need to be ready to account for the hope within us. Give God glory and trust He is using Trump….bad methods and all….don’t give Trump the glory or his detractors credit for uncovering impurity that they want to make us all accountable for.

    • 54markl

      You Dixie people love the anarchy, that’s why you’re so popular.

    • disqus_sbjMmHluyh

      Anointed? Why would anyone even use that word? God is using Trump to get things done ? Really ? How?
      By being a bombastic corrupt Putin living con man who has made a pact with the Russians because he couldn’t get anymore loans from American banks because he was such a high risk with his 6 bankruptcies ?
      He becomes the president with Putin’s help and the electoral college to fill his bank account and advance his own agenda and profiting off the office of presidency? Meanwhile he has found a subset of Americans who are as ignorant and ill read and uninformed as they come?
      Look it up he said years ago if he was going to run for President he would do it as a Republican because they’re stupid. Yeah that’s the only thing he was right about!!!

      • Mike Pennington

        Are you following the guidelines here? Name calling is not something this site agrees to allow.

        You accuse me of not reading and being “ignorant” and “stupid”. All accusations which are easy to make, but impossible to prove. Are you a peeping Tom … a stalker? Do you know where I live and work? Have a history of my activities, and have you poured over them and can prove beyond a doubt I don’t read, and I’m ignorant?

        It’s amazing to me how so many experts crawl out of the woodwork to “educate” us all about who is brilliant and who is stupid. And they all proudly claim to be leftists.

        Not that your kind of “intellect” holds sway with me at all, but you have publically tried to slander me. I will make this one attempt to defend my name and if that is followed by more denigration, (it harms your character … not mine), I’ll not respond to this thread, but to the authorities of this site.

        I have a Bachelor of Science degree. My mother has a Master’s in Education, my brother has a Medical degree. My two sisters have Bachelors degrees. I am listed in “The National Dean’s” list from 2005 & 2006 (look it up), so my professors don’t agree with you about my intelligence.

        Your knowledge of my intelligence is as unreliable as your knowledge of Trump colluding with the Russians. You have no proof … only accusations spouted as though fact.

        Are you even a Christian? Why don’t you read up on King Cyrus in the Old Testament? He was a pagan king whom God anointed.

        Scripture says: “It is I who says of Cyrus, ‘He is My shepherd! And he will perform all My desire.’ And he declares of Jerusalem, ‘She will be built,’ And of the temple, ‘Your foundation will be laid.” Isaiah 44:28 NASB

        If God calls Cyrus His annointed, a pagan king who also added the God of Israel to his list of gods to worship, who are you to argue?!

        Cyrus held Israel captive in Persia. Yet he allowed the Jews to return to Israel to rebuild the Temple and the wall around Jerusalem.

        Today, Trump is working to help Christian’s and Jews to have the same rights given to LGBTQs, which they had before Obama. He is also rebuilding our security … a wall if you will. It’s the same type of thing.

        If you’re angry that the effort by leftist has been exposed and is falling apart, choosing to see that as tearing apart the world, well you’re not going to understand why many see Trump as a Cyrus type of leader. And you won’t understand how I can call him annointed.

        I won’t banter with you about it. You are clearly sold on a perspective that what Trump is doing is bad, and I am not. Between you and I, there is no room for persuasion. So rather than continuing to be nasty, let’s call it a day, and live and let live.

  • bbb

    When writers tell people what to think of President Trump, what to look out for about this man, why Trump is no big deal, I must question whether or not they remember the last 8 years when they kept quiet.
    I have not heard one truly Bible preaching pastor, minister or priest make any Trump-Jesus comparisons. Only the left wing media and writers have done that.
    If joking, using the language of the “common classes” as the left refers to American working ‘middle-class castes’, taking no guff of other nations, the media, the Never-Trumper GOP old guard or if off-the-shoulder instincts make Donald J. Trump “un-presidential” then I’d say we are a pretty poor crop of patriots. Shall the smooth-talking well groomed elites become the ruling class [caste] in America?
    As for President Trump’s familiarity with the Bible, that cannot be determined by man, but by God. Trump’s words that echoed from rallies and speeches and in his church are the first consistent Presidential recognition of God this nation has had in 8 years. No, one would never have heard Trump’s most recent quote from Obama, that “Americans bow down to God, not to the government.” You are right about that.
    As for me and my house we will serve the Lord. And we will vote for a patriotic brawler any day. Go Trump!

    • 54markl

      The corrupt billionaires are the ruling class, you are their servant and Butler spewing what they taught you to say.

  • 54markl

    The entire Republican base is already going to the infernal regions anyway because of the evil things they have done to date, it doesn’t matter what they do anymore. God sees everything they do, and God is displeased. I blame the rural dopes for this horrendous mess, none of them have the brains of a beaver.

  • 54markl

    I find it very suspicious that we have so many Trump supporters here. Well, you know, the billionaires have tons of money to throw around, they can pay any number of people to advance their agenda. Or Mr. Putin can pay them, he pays all sorts of people posting from former Leningrad sitting in a boiler room. You just don’t know on the Internet who is really saying things and why. You do know that billionaires are corrupt and throw their money around to control things behind the scenes. They pay people to do things for them.

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