My Dialogue With an LGBT Activist in DC

Once again, an LGBT activist had no answers for simple questions and no ability to respond to truth.

By Michael Brown Published on July 28, 2017

I was leaving a meeting near the White House when a young woman wearing an “Equality” shirt asked if she could speak to me for a moment about an important bill. This is a rough transcript of what followed once I agreed to chat with her. The tone was friendly throughout on both sides.

Are People Really Fired For Being Gay or Lesbian?

She: “I’m with the Human Rights Campaign, and I’d like to talk with you about an important bill that’s being discussed right now. We’re concerned about equality.”

Me: “Actually, I’m on the HRC’s list of people exporting hate to the nations because I’m concerned about the religious freedoms of Christians. Are you concerned with discrimination against Christians too?”

She: “Yes, I am.”

Me: “You know, Christians around the world are being persecuted for their faith, and even here in America, there’s an attack on our freedoms.”

She: “Yes, well, that’s important. But we’re concerned here with discrimination against LGBT people because right now, in 28 states, you can be fired simply for being gay or lesbian.”

Don’t be weary in getting your message out, even if people don’t seem to listen. In the end, truth will triumph.

Me: “That’s a serious issue, and I live in North Carolina, where we do not have special protections for gays and lesbians. Could you give me some examples of people actually being fired just because they’re gay or lesbian? I’d really like to know that.”

She: “Yes, in North Carolina, you have HB2, which discriminates against transgenders.”

Me: “Actually, I think it was a good bill. Do you think it’s fair to girls in a school when a boy who identifies as a girl shares their bathrooms? Is that fair? I know girls who have been traumatized by the presence of boys in their locker rooms.”

She: “But we have to respect people’s gender identity too.”

Me: “But what about everyone else? Is that fair to them? And let’s say that you’re an athlete and worked really hard to win your competitions. Then, a boy in your school identifies as a girl and beats you all the time. Is that fair to you?”

She: “Well, we’ll just have to agree to disagree. But a person’s gender identity is important.”

If Biology Doesn’t Matter, Why Should Ethnic Roots Matter?

Me: “Can I ask how you determine gender identity? I mean, I’m a biological and chromosomal male. But if I identify as a female does that make me female? What if I identify as Hispanic? [She appeared to be Hispanic herself and was.]

She: “But do you have Hispanic roots? Are you actually Hispanic?”

Me: “Why do I need Hispanic roots? If I identify as Hispanic to the core of my being, how come I’m not Hispanic? If I identify as a female you accept me as a female. Why not my perceived ethnicity?”

She: “You’re comparing ethnicity with gender. That’s different.”

Me: “Why? If my biology doesn’t matter, why should my ethnic roots matter?”

She: “Well, we’ll have to agree to disagree.”

Me: “I’m happy to do that, but please do think about what I had to say, OK? Have a nice day.”

She: “Have a nice day.”

Truth Will Triumph

So, once again, an LGBT activist had no answers to simple questions and no ability to respond to truth.

It’s like an interaction I just had with a gay dad on Twitter. He criticized my support of the president’s military ban on those who identify as transgender. He told me I was guilty of excluding a whole group of people from serving in the military, just as women and blacks and gays had been excluded.

I pointed out to him that diabetics and asthmatics and people with sleep apnea and men under 5 feet tall can’t serve either. He repeated to me that this was the same discrimination previously faced by women and blacks and gays,

I told him the issue was one of military readiness and had nothing to do with discrimination. And I asked him if he thought asthmatics and diabetics should be able to serve in the military. His answer? There was none. To answer was to expose the bankruptcy of his argument.

So, don’t be weary in getting your message out, even if people don’t seem to listen. Others may be listening. And in the end, truth will triumph.

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  • Gary

    Liberals don’t care if what they believe is logical or objectively true. To them, what they believe is true because they want it to be, and that’s all that matters. Either agree with them, in spite of their errors, or be called a bigot and a homophobe. That is why you will never be successful in changing the mind of someone who supports lgbtq. It is their nature to deny the truth and rebel against it.

    • Hildabeast

      lgbtq folk are satan’s favorite toy

      • John Connor

        Lol!

      • Musicalpro

        Tell that to the next casket you see with a fallen LGBTQ soldier inside that risked their life for you.

        • Hildabeast

          giving your life for another is truly an act of love. unfortunately, that cannot guarantee salvation nor mask the fact that we are all sinners going to hell lest we repent and surrender our lives to Jesus.

          • Musicalpro

            I agree with that however that wasn’t the point of my reply. My reply had to do with the fact that there are those who are in the caskets that are not LGBTQ yet could very well also be “satan’s favorite toy”, via adultery, or other sinful vices. Satan’s “favorite toy” is not singularly LGBTQ. It’s ANYONE who has been deceived including you and I.

          • Hildabeast

            I agree. Though it would be very difficult to disagree that the LGBT fraud being perpetrated on us over the last 20 years has taken on a life of its own and needs to be spoken against, disagreed with and blasted until it dies down at every step of the way.

            You don’t hear philanderers asking for special rights, do you? Or thieves, or liars or rapists? No one needs permission to sin – you just do it. Yet you have a small group of vile individuals who delude themselves into thinking they can somehow offset their need for repentance by doing “good works”, such as what you pointed out… serving in the military.

            Unfortunately no one can buy his or her way into heaven. I want that broadcasted widely. There is but one way to heaven, and the price was paid by Him so we can ride on into heaven not because of ANYTHING we did or merited…

          • Goldmann

            Preach it sister!

          • Goldmann

            True

          • Goldmann

            Amen sister!! how long have you been saved sis xx

      • Goldmann

        They belong to Satan anyway

    • John Connor

      Well, there’s one opinion

  • ImaginaryDomain

    Michael, why do you keep posting your inane conversations with anonymous internet trolls? There is no light being shed here, and these exchanging go exactly how everyone would predict.

    • John Connor

      Reading comprehension poor? This was an in person interaction.

  • Dant e

    Thank you Dr. Brown for giving us some examples of answers and questions to use in these situations, even if they aren`t open to the truth and they may be even subconsciously or it could be that it is one step on the path to God reaching them, but also that others may be listening or reading who are open to the truth.

  • Alan Blake

    Respectfully sir, making an analogy between asthmatics, sleep apnea and LBGTQ individuals serving in the military is puzzling. These military folks are in fact trained and ready. An asthmatic or one suffering from sleep apnea puts them and their unit at risk, and height can be another physical limitation. (This is common in certain sports). So what I gather is that you’re saying LBGTQ folks are somehow limited physically and that is the risk and a limit on “readiness”…..but how??? When I see military caskets, I don’t ask if they were straight, LBGTQ, adulterers, fornicators or polygamists.

    • Gary

      You are part of the problem. Your brain does not work and you are immoral.

      • Musicalpro

        Ah, from the vantage point of Trumpland. Thanks!

      • Musicalpro

        You are a real sad excuse for a Christian calling me (a Christian) “immoral”. Didn’t know you knew me that well. Learn something stupid every day. SMH!

    • Shaune Scott

      If the individual has transitioned to the opposite sex, s/he must have ongoing hormonal treatment, along with continuing medical care for the aftereffects of surgery. That would qualify as an ongoing condition, would it not?

    • John Connor

      Exactly

    • m-nj

      “An asthmatic or one suffering from sleep apnea puts them and their unit at risk”

      And the presence of LGBT in a unit puts the unit at risk because they are focused on LGBT politics and practices and not the task at hand, namely, fighting and winning. While I am not in support of the LGB serving, the T serving is even more problematic if they are serving openly, e.g., a pre-op male-to-female T in a men’s only unit, but wearing female attire, trying to look and act like a woman, and presumably desiring to use female facilities is going to cause a whole lot of distractions. You cannot simple tell the non-LGBT people to accept the LGBT members, and it is an assault on their rights and consciences to demand it.

      • Musicalpro

        So you somehow believe that LGBTQ folks serving in the military are all focused on “politics and practices and not fighting and winning”. Wow! When have soldiers complained about their fellow LGBTQ comrades politicizing and practicing in their presence? This is news to me and most likely fake news. When I see the caskets of fallen soldiers who risked their lives defending America, I don’t ask if they were Trans, gay, lesbian, bi, straight, adulterers, fornicators, lustful, on binge drinkers. I just honor them for their willingness to risk their lives for you and I.

    • Jason Baker

      Being transgender is a mental illness, the others you listed are sexual sins. Mental illness excludes you from military service. If sin excluded one from military service there would be no one in the military.

      • glenbo

        >>”Being transgender is a mental illness, the others you listed are sexual sins.”<>”the others you listed are sexual sins.”<<
        Why is the sexual behavior anyone else's business?
        What makes a sexual sin" a "sin?

        • Jason Baker

          Protected? We aren’t talking about protection, we are talking about military service which includes security clearences, weapons, etc. There is a long list of mental illnesses that disqualify one from military service. Gender Disphoria was one of them until Barack Obama signed and executive order.

          If you do not believe in God or believe what the Holy Bible says, my explanation would not satisfy your question.

          This country is headed toward destruction at just about full speed. Keep up the fight to help it go a little faster.

          • glenbo

            >>”Protected? We aren’t talking about protection”<>”If you do not believe in God or believe what the Holy Bible says, my explanation would not satisfy your question”<<

            You are incapable of convincing me that God is real, and not just imaginary.

            You are incapable of convincing me that the Bible is in any way true.

            Therefore, your anti-LGBT biblically based stance has no merit, and therefore must be dismissed.

          • Jason Baker

            The discussion was about about being allowed to serve in the military, not Constitutional protections based on disability. Let’s try to stay on topic.

            You are completely correct, I cannot convince you of the reality of God, nor am I called to. I am only called to spread the word of the gospel and live according to God’s word.

            You cannot prove or convince me God is not real, therefore your humanist based stance has no merit and I reject it.

          • glenbo

            The discussion was about being allowed to serve in the
            military, not Constitutional protections based on disability. Let’s try to stay on topic.

            Why are Blacks allowed to serve?

            Is it because they
            are Constitutionally protected?

            How about women?

            If you place a demographic group (Blacks and mentally
            disabled transgendered or females) into Constitutionally protected classes, as Gary just did, you then have to treat them all equally.

            >>” You cannot prove or convince me God is not real”<<

            Sorry, the burden of proof is upon the one making a claim. If you claim God is real, then the burden of proof is upon the one making the claim.

            I am simply rejecting your claim.

            My magic Leprechaun friend that lives in my garden says I can k*ll Christians.

            If you cannot prove he doesn’t exist, I therefore have the
            right to act upon his dictates.

          • Jason Baker

            You obviously have never served in the military. One actually falls under the UCMJ, not civil law, once you take the oath. Rejection from military service is based on the criteria laid out by the DOD. Being a certain skin color, as your example uses, is not one of the criteria. I know it is hard for someone like you to read and obey rules, but there are still some places and people out there that do.
            As for the burden of proof being on me, no it is not. Either you believe or you dont. I can believe what I want you can believe what you want. What I believe doesn’t advise me to kill anyone. You may want to reevaluate your belief in that leprechaun, sounds like he is leading you down the wrong path.

          • glenbo

            >>”I know it is hard for someone like you to read and obey rules, but there are still some places and people out there that do.”<>”As for the burden of proof being on me, no it is not. Either you believe or you dont. I can believe what I want you can believe what you want. What I believe doesn’t advise me to kill anyone.”<<
            Fundamental Islamic terrorists believe they can kill based only upon what they "believe."
            How is that different from what the Bible teaches you?
            Lev. 20:13

          • Jason Baker

            Levitcal law was specifically to the Isrealites of that time. If you read and understood the Bible you would know that. Your heart is hard and you reject truth, you do not wish to understand, therefore you will not.
            1 Corinthians 2:12-16

            I will pray God opens yours eyes my friend, he is the only one who can.

          • glenbo

            >>”Levitcal law was specifically to the Isrealites of that time.”<<
            So Leviticus 20:13 doesn't apply to todays society?
            Thank you!

          • Jason Baker

            Matthew 19:4-6
            Jesus makes it clear marriage is between one man and one women.

            Jesus makes it clear any type of sexual immorality, including many other things defile us.

            Matthew 15:18-20
            God has abundant mercy and grace for us sinners. He does not call for our death by other men for those sins. Jesus paid the price for our sins. If we believe on him and repent from those sins, we will be saved from eternal separation from God the Father.
            That is the law we live under my friend.

          • glenbo

            >>”Matthew 19:4-6”<>”Jesus makes it clear any type of sexual immorality, including many other things defile us.”<>”Matthew 15:18-20”<>”Jesus paid the price for our sins. If we believe on him and repent from those sins”<<

            I am not a “sinner.”

          • Jason Baker

            I am a sinner. Glad you have found perfection. Good luck to you.

      • Musicalpro

        What medical peer reviewed article did you get that statement from??? And, why are the LGBTQ folks currently serving in the military? Geez.

  • Gary

    The transie children of military personnel are currently being helped along with their transition from male to female and female to male AT US TAXPAYER EXPENSE!!! This is outrageous!! I’m beginning to hate the US military as much as I hate Congress and Obama!

    • John Connor

      LMAO!

      • Gary

        One day soon, you’ll be crying.

  • LuxRex

    There is something fundamentally banal, and idiotic about American left-wing positions. To me it is clear, they are the demonic patterns of this world: “Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is–his good, pleasing and perfect will.” (Romans 12:2) ” The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.” (Psalm 19:7)

  • Jeremy L

    This woman sounds caught off guard. Maybe she didn’t have time to think or isn’t a skilled debater. For one, she definitely should not have brought up HB2, since it is irrelevant to the question of “Are people fired for being gay and lesbian”? The bathroom controversy has nothing to do with employment non-discrimination, and yet Brown was able to change the subject and avoid facing the reality that people do get fired for being LGBT. If there is no law against firing LGBT people in 28 states, what’s stopping someone who hates LGBTs from firing them? Brown seems to deny it happens, but of course, if it can happen, it will happen.

    I hope no one seeks out the gay dad and begins harassing him on Twitter after reading this, but it probably will happen.

    • Shaquille Harvey

      Yes but where is the firing happening?

    • Gary

      There should be nothing stopping employers from firing any employee they want. Employment should be voluntary both for the employer and the employee. People quit jobs all the time, and that should be their right, just as it should be the right of the employer to part ways with any employee for any reason.

      • Jeremy L

        Well then, if I was an employer, I should be able to fire people for being Christian.

      • glenbo

        >>”There should be nothing stopping employers from firing any employee they want.”<<
        Can I fire a black person only for being black?

        • Gary

          You should be able to, but because of stupid, unjust laws, it is illegal. You would have to offer another reason, should the government demand a reason from you. Or be punished.

          • glenbo

            >>”You should be able to”<<
            Interesting. Why?
            And should I also be able to fire, evict or deny service to Christians only because they are Christians and for no other reason?

          • Gary

            Yes, you should be able to do that. All business transactions should be voluntary for everyone involved. If you have no choice in who you do business with, then you are a slave.

          • glenbo

            >>”Yes, you should be able to do that.”<<
            So bigotry is important to you?

          • Gary

            Everyone is a bigot. The only difference is who they are bigoted toward.

          • glenbo

            >>”Everyone is a bigot.”<<
            Not true.
            I am not a bigot towards anyone.
            But the answer to my question is Yes, bigotry IS indeed important to you.
            Thanks for saying that.
            Why is it important to you?

          • Gary

            Sure you’re a bigot. You favor lgbtq and that automatically means you are bigoted against those who oppose lgbtq. They go together. Can’t have one without the other.

            It is important to me to be bigoted against lgbtq, and their supporters, because the God of the Bible is bigoted against them, and I want to have the same enemies that God has.

          • glenbo

            >>”You favor lgbtq and that automatically means you are bigoted against those who oppose lgbtq.”<>”It is important to me to be bigoted against lgbtq, and their supporters, because the God of the Bible is bigoted against them”<<
            That is an irrational reason to be bigoted towards anyone.

          • Gary

            Of course you favor the lgbtq. You are either for them, or against them, and you are for them.

            You don’t make the rules. And I could not care less whether you reject anything I do.

          • glenbo

            >>”Of course you favor the lgbtq”<>”You don’t make the rules.”<<

            Correct. But I vote for just and rational ones.
            And imaginary child murdering gods shouldn't be allowed to make rules either.

          • Gary

            The God of the Bible is real. And it won’t be long until you find it out.

          • glenbo

            >>”The God of the Bible is real.”<<
            How does one determine God is real and not just imaginary?

          • Gary

            The Creation is proof of God’s existence.

          • glenbo

            >>”The Creation is proof of God’s existence.”<<
            How so?

          • Dime

            To be a bigot, a right must be violated. What right is being violated by not allowing men into ladies’ locker rooms? What right is being violated by refusing to provide services to a homosexual wedding?

            By forcing someone to participate in a transaction that rejects their personal beliefs is a violation of THEIR rights. Who’s really the bigot?

          • glenbo

            >>”What right is being violated by not allowing men into ladies’ locker rooms?”<>”Forcing someone to participate in a transaction that rejects their personal beliefs is a violation of THEIR rights.

            “<<
            Name ONE business owner who has been "forced" to "violate their beliefs."
            How does a belief become altered?

          • Dime

            Freedom of association is a Constitutionally-protected right. You should be able do business, or refuse the same, for any reason you deem fit. If society sees it differently, you will be shunned personally, or go out of business for lack of customers. That is how our system is SUPPOSED to work.

          • glenbo

            >>”You should be able do business, or refuse the same”<<
            So I can reject ALL Christians ONLY because they are Christians and for no other reason?
            Anyone can reject ALL blacks ONLY because they are black and for no other reason?

          • Dime

            Hypothetically speaking? Absolutely. Of course, if you do so for the reasons above, you will quickly go out of business as people refuse to do business with a prejudicial douche.

          • glenbo

            >>”Of course, if you do so for the reasons above, you will quickly go out of business as people refuse to do business with a prejudicial douche.”<<
            Well said!!!
            Thank you!!!
            You just accurately described the so-called phony "Christian" wedding caterers who did just that.

  • Patmos

    The left is degenerating into complete madness. Progressives cannot discern one thing from another. Prime example is their simultaneous embrace of both LGBT and Islam. That they do not see a conflict there epitomizes their delusional mindset.

  • JM

    There is no truth on the LGBT side and that is why can’t answer your questions. this whole movement is nothing but lies and lies that are being masqueraded around as truth

  • JM

    The LGBT has no truth on its side and that is why they can’t answer your questions.

    • glenbo

      >>”The LGBT has no truth on its side”<<
      What "truth" do you have on your side?

      • Dime

        Science

        • glenbo

          >>”Science”<<
          So you understand what gender dysphoria is? And what causes it? What scientific source did you get your information from?

          And you must also understand where homosexual attractions come from as well, am I correct? Can you please cite that scientific source as well?

          • Dime

            Biology dictates one’s sex. Beyond an extremely small percentage of people with genetic disorders, there is no such thing as “transsexual.” In fact, the vast majority of youth who consider themselves “transsexual” accept their biological sex by adulthood. A good definition of mental disorder is thinking you are something you are not. If an emaciated girl thinks she is fat, do we continue to support the delusion, or seek treatment for it?

            There is also no biological component of homosexuality, i.e. there is no “gay gene.” The vast majority of homosexuals were “groomed” by an older homosexual to elicit the behavior. Can you provide any examples of the type of exclusivity to homosexual sex in non-human species?

            When something affects less than two percent of the population (true of “transsexuals” and homosexuals), that is the very definition of an abnormality…

          • glenbo

            >>”The vast majority of homosexuals were “groomed” by an older homosexual to elicit the behavior.”<<
            Your ignorance is hysterical.
            To assert that all gay people were "groomed" is utterly moronic.
            Where are you getting your phony knowledge from? The Family Research Council? Most likely.
            If you get your garbage "knowledge" from a hate-group, you will then talk like an idiot as you just did.
            You have no business speaking with any authority spouting the false nonsense like you do.
            The entire medical community's consensus on human sexuality and gender identity flies blatantly in contrast to your religion-based misinformation.
            If you choose not to properly educate and inform yourself, you will continue to make a fool of yourself as you just did with this absurd nonsense.
            Next thing you'll probably try to assert is that sexual attractions can be "chosen" at will.

          • Dime

            I didn’t say all, and if you don’t think gay men “groom” their targets, then you are the one in need of an education.

            The entire scientific community once believed in a flat Earth, so their consensus doesn’t mean all that much, not to mention, the “entire medical community” doesn’t agree in gender identity being a choice and human sexuality being “normal.” In fact, something that affects less than 2% of the population (homosexuality) and less than .5% (gender dysphoria) are the definition of abnormal. Heck, gender dysphoria was only removed from the disorder category in 2012. Much like the removal of homosexuality in the 1970s, it had to do with politics, and not science. Besides, if it is genetic, and affects such a small number of the population, shouldn’t we be seeking a cure for the anomaly, much like Autism and MS?

            A pretty solid definition of mental disorder is thinking you are something you are not. If a 6′, 90lb boy thinks he’s an overweight female, why do we treat the anorexia, but not the gender dysphoria? Would it be okay for someone to claim they’re a cat? For a white person to claim they are black (oh, wait).

          • glenbo

            >>” I didn’t say all”<>” if it is genetic, and affects such a small number
            of the population, shouldn’t we be seeking a cure for the anomaly”<<

            Why does it need “correcting?” Why are you assuming it is “wrong?” Why are you assuming it is harmful?

            If you don’t know what it is or what causes it, who are you to dictate to others to interfere?

            You obviously don’t know anything about gender dysphoria.

            You obviously don’t know a single transgender person. I know 3 and am related to one.

            Who are you to speak as an authority on a condition you don’t understand the cause of?

            This is arrogant.

            Your analogies are absurd.

    • Goldmann

      Amen

  • JM

    So biology matters when it has involves ethnicity but not gender? how come?

  • JM

    If a black man calling himself white or vice versa (a white man calling himself black) is illogical than how is a man calling himself a woman not?

  • LX5000

    Forget ‘trans-ethnic’, why not ‘trans-species’ too? From now on I identify as a man-rabbit and you must address me by the pronoun:’ffff..ffff’. Or else!!

    • glenbo

      >>”why not ‘trans-species’ too? From now on I identify as a man-rabbit”<<
      Education…it's a good thing.

      • LX5000

        Unless its on gender-studies (??)

        • glenbo

          >>”Unless its on gender-studies”<<
          Then you will continue to make a fool of yourself with your ignorance.
          Please go to Apa dot org/transgender and educate yourself.
          You are presuming to know more than the entire medical community.
          I am confident you get your "knowledge" of LGBT issues only from a religious right conservative news source only.

          • LX5000

            Thanks for the link, I’ll include them in my prayers.

          • Orel lmmanuel Goldmann

            No such thing as ‘transgender’???, your a man or woman☺

          • glenbo

            >>”No such thing as ‘transgender’???, your a man or woman”<<
            What do you tell an intersex child?

          • glenbo

            >>”your a man or woman”<<
            1 in 2000 thousand births are intersex.
            Please explain that.

  • glenbo

    What makes the sexual orientation and gender identity anyone’s business?

    • Gary

      When they demand that others recognize their “rights”, they make it the business of others.

      • glenbo

        >>”When they demand that others recognize their “rights”,”<<
        What would be the reason to deny gay people any rights at all?

        • Gary

          There are no rights that go with lgbtq behavior.

          • glenbo

            >>”Yes, you should be able to do that.”<<
            Then what was Barronelle fined for?

          • Gary

            I misunderstood. I thought you were talking about rights that come from God. But you’re talking about rights the government grants. Yes, there are unjust and unconstitutional “rights” granted to certain people by some governments. But remember, any right a government can grant, a government can take away.

          • glenbo

            >>”I thought you were talking about rights that come from God.”<<
            The so-called "rights that come from God" are unjust and unconstitutional and irrational and many are illegal.

          • Gary

            Really? Such as?

          • glenbo

            >>”Really? Such as?”<<
            Owning slaves, marrying rapists, murdering gays, Sabbath day sinners and non-virgins. That's just for starters.
            Do you actually think having the right to do those things is just and constitutional?

          • Gary

            Jesus said, do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Would that be compatible with forcing someone to work for you? I think not.

            God required the Jews to execute people who engage in homosexual sex. God also told them to execute adulterers, people who have sex with animals, and murderers. You call it murder, God calls it execution for a crime. All of that is just, according to God.

            The US Constitution now prohibits slavery. It didn’t always. And the Constitution does not prohibit the death penalty for homosexuality, adultery, or murder. But only the government has the authority to carry out executions legally.

          • glenbo

            >>”You call it murder, God calls it execution for a crime.”<<

            Why are you comparing homosexuality to murder? Why is homosexuality a "crime?"
            Why do you support forcibly marrying one's rapist, slavery and murdering someone who works on the Sabbath? How are those "rules" just and constitutional?

          • Gary

            God said murder and homosexual sex both deserve the death penalty. Both are crimes because God said so.

            Where does the Bible say God requires a woman to marry a man who raped her? Murder is immoral and against God’s law.

          • glenbo

            >>Both are crimes because God said so.”<>”Where does the Bible say God requires a woman to marry a man who raped her? “<<

            Judges 21:10-24
            Numbers 31:7-18
            Deuteronomy 20:10-14
            Deuteronomy 22:28-29
            Deuteronomy 22:23-24
            2Samuel 12:11-14
            Deuteronomy 21:10-14
            Judges 5:30
            Exodus 21:7-11
            Zechariah 14:1-2
            Leviticus 19:20-22
            You sound like a cafeteria Christian.

          • Gary

            The Old Testament reveals the laws God had for the Jews. I am not a Jew, but a Christian. If you want to see how God requires Christians to live, read the New Testament.

          • glenbo

            >>”If you want to see how God requires Christians to live, read the New Testament.”<<
            What does the New Testament say about homosexuality?

          • Gary

            It condemns it. In the NT, moral sex is limited to a husband and his wife. And a wife is always a woman.

          • glenbo

            >>”It condemns it.”<>”In the NT, moral sex is limited to a husband and
            his wife.”<>”And a wife
            is always a woman”<<

            Irrelevant to homosexuality.

          • JM

            Are you blind? the Bible clearly condemns homosexuality. how can you say it doesn’t? The OT condemns homosexuality and the NT does as well, there is nowhere in the NT that says that God is now okay with homosexuality.

          • glenbo

            >>”The OT condemns homosexuality and the NT does as well,”<<
            So it is okay that I can own slaves, rape and murder my children?

          • JM

            You know for a fact the Bible condemns so stop to trying to deny this and what does owning slaves and murdering children have to do with this topic?

          • glenbo

            >>”You know for a fact the Bible condemns “<>”what does owning slaves and murdering children have to do with this topic?”<<
            You must accept ALL of the bible or NONE of it.
            Cafeteria Christians have no business telling others what to do based on cherry picking bible verses they like while ignoring the immoral parts.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            When the spiritually dead try to read the Book of Life it’s like a blind man trying to read a road map before hopping in the car to drive. You have to get a heart transplant before you can have eyes to see.

            Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God.” (John 8:47)

            “The unbeliever does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him. And he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.” (1st Cor. 2:14)

            “There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.” (2nd Peter 3:16)

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            “knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires.” (2Pe 3:3)

            “Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive.” “The venom of asps is under their lips.” “Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness.” (Rom. 3:13-14)

            Like a dog that returns to its vomit is a fool who repeats his folly. (Prov. 26:11)

            A fool does not delight in understanding, But only in revealing his own mind. (Prov. 18:2)

          • glenbo

            There is no reason for me to accept bible verses as fact.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            Oh there’s not only a reason but a good one. Your ignorance and rebellion doesn’t negate the reason.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            The answer to your first question is “Yes”. The answer to your second question is… see your first. He’s just doing his daddy, Satan’s, bidding as God would say to him…

            And you are dead in your trespasses and sins, in which you walk according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. Among them you live in the lusts of your flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and are by nature children of wrath (Eph. 2:1-3)

          • JM

            Show me the verses in the Bible that it is okay for two men and two women to engage in sexual activity and that God approves of this. he doesn’t, anything that has to do with sexuality in the Bible is always directed at man and and woman. never two men and two women. never in the OT nor in the NT

          • glenbo

            >>”Show me the verses in the Bible that says that it is okay for two men and two women to engage in sexual activity and that God approves of this.”<<
            Why is God (and you also) so obsessed with what people do with their genitalia?
            Don't you find that creepy?

          • JM

            God is the creator of sex and of people so he has the right to say who sleeps with who and which parts go where and there is nothing creepy about that

          • glenbo

            >>”God is the creator of sex and of people so he has the right to say who sleeps with who and which parts go where and there is”<<
            Obsessing about sex is creepy.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            So yo admit that you’re a creep. Well, that’s a start.

            And you know what the really GREAT and ironic thing is? The God you don’t believe in is using you to bring about His purposes and glory to Himself. And you don’t even realize it. As long as you continue to accomplish His purposes and bring Him glory you can continue to troll and eake out what little bit of a pathetic existence you have. But when you cease to be of any use to Him you will cease to exist here and take your place in Hell where you will wait for your trip to the Lake Of Fire.

          • glenbo

            >>”So yo admit that you’re a creep”<<
            Really? Where.
            When you resort to childish name-calling, you admit you lost a debate.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            Wow! Amazing. A Giant Sequoia Tree in each eye! Hypocrite. I didn’t call you any names. Simply pointed out your self-admission.

            Now you admit you lost the “debate”. You should try practicing what you preach. Oh, and ya might wanna look up what a “debate” is. LOL You’re a riot!!

          • glenbo

            >>”So yo admit that you’re a creep.”<>”The God you don’t believe in is using you to bring
            about His purposes and glory to Himself.”<<

            I would be embarrassed if I was God have people like you
            defending my slavery and rape condoning and child murdering “morality.”

            Threats? That’s the best you have to “convince” me is
            threats?

            How desperate and intellectually vacuous.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            Oh yes you are. In fact, YOU are the ONLY one obsessing over what consenting adults do. I challenge you to go thru all these posts and see who is the one that mentions genitalia. Here’s a hint: YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

            LOL Thanks for publicly discrediting yourself again. Why is it that you trolls persists in making yourselves out to be fools? Amazing!

            “I am merely defending the rights and lives”

            That may well be what you’ve deceived yourself into thinking but all you’ve done is show how uncouth and downright rude you are. This is a CHRISTIAN page. NOT Atheists Int’l.

            We Christians don’t have to wonder what the atheists, LGBTQABCXYZ+50s, and other God-haters would say to a Christian who came to one of their sites just to “confront lies and stop privilege” or “give you guys an opposing viewpoint”! No, in truth you are here because you are doing your father’s bidding. Eph. 2:1-3.

            Fact is you trolls don’t even have the common decency to know that you don’t go into somebody’s home and start ragging on them about how they live!!

            But I reckon that’s what I get for thinking that even atheists might’ve learned some manners. Oh, you’ll likely come back with “this is a public site” but that doesn’t get around the fact you are intentionally trolling a CHRISTIAN page. NO getting around that.

            I’d love to hear from all the Homofascist, Atheist, God-hating trolls, how much time do you spend trolling muslim sites and harassing them? Or is your hatred focused solely on the One True God and His true children?

            The fact is if Atheists REALLY believed there was no God they would be living it up, getting every ounce of self-gratification and hedonistic pleasure they could.

            There would be none of this nonsense of hiding behind a facade of caring for their fellow man. Baloney! There is no reason to care for your fellow man if this life is all there is. Get drunk. Do drugs. Rape, pillage, & plunder for today we live and tomorrow we die!

            They would be the ultimate hedonists. For there would be no reason not to. Get all you can while you can and don’t hold back. Eat, drink, be merry, live while you can and then die and that’s the end of it. For if there is no Eternity and no ultimate Holy, Righteous, Perfect Judge then there is NO logical reason for caring about anyone but yourself. Which, btw, is exactly what you do. All that hogwash about defending your family, friends, employees, etc. is a bunch of El Toro Poo Poo. You do it because it feeds your ego and fuels your self-righteousness.

            But you don’t do that. No, instead you prove by your very life you KNOW that God is alive and very, very real. And you prove it by your continued existence on here EXACTLY what God has said several times in His Word.

            And you will continue to do so as long as you continue to be of good use to God and accomplish His purposes. When you are no longer of any use to Him and you no longer bring Him glory, you’ll cease to exist here and will take your place in the Lake Of Fire.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            “people like you who demonize them”

            Demonize – portray as wicked and threatening.

            Looks like the shoe fits.

            “Obsessing over what men do with their genitals is creepy. And hateful.”

            Thank you for publicly displaying once AGAIN that you’re a creep and hateful.

            Threats? That’s the best you have to “convince” me is threats?

            Told ya before. Not a thread. A promise. How desperate and intellectually vacuous.

          • JM

            You’re the creepy one here

          • glenbo

            >>”You’re the creepy one here”<<
            Why?

          • JM

            So since you keep asking ”Show me the bible verse that condemns homosexuality” (your question can be answered by simply opening the Bible and reading it) show me where God or Jesus said anything in support for it? show me where in the Bible Did God/Jesus celebrate the homosexual lifestyle or supported homosexual ”rights”

          • glenbo

            >>”So since you keep asking”<<
            Sow me in the NEW Testament.
            Gary has decided to ignore the entire OLD Testament. Please pay attention to the dialogue and try to comprehend the conversation before you overreact in anger.

          • Esther Ekpe Adewuyi

            Romans 1
            verse 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.
            verse 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

          • glenbo

            >>”Men committed shameful acts with other men”<<
            Why is it "shameful?"

          • Esther Ekpe Adewuyi

            Because the bible says. Please ask and allow God to give you understanding of this.

          • glenbo

            >>”Because the bible says.”<<
            I realize this, I have 3 bibles and I have read them.
            But why does the bible say this?

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            When the spiritually dead try to read the Book of Life it’s like a blind man trying to read a road map before hopping in the car to drive. You have to get a heart transplant before you can have eyes to see.

            Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God.” (John 8:47)

            “The unbeliever does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him. And he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.” (1st Cor. 2:14)

            “There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.” (2nd Peter 3:16)

            Thanks for proving God’s Word true. So you’ve read THREE Bibles and are still ever bit as blind as you always have been. Congrats!!

          • glenbo

            My “road map of life” doesn’t steer me to hate my fellow man.
            My road map to life doesn’t require me abandon critical thinking.
            My road map doesn’t tell me how to think and what to think.
            My road map doesn’t require me to believe in magic and to reject science.
            Yours does.
            I don’t need a road map to have empathy for my fellow man. Anyone who does is a hapless basket case.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            You just lied in every single one of those statements. And the proof is in your last statement which contradicts your first and last statement. Which proves your “road map of life” has you on the road to eternal torment in the Lake Of Fire. It also proves you are a Hypocrite and a Troll.

            In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion,[3] often for their own amusement.

            From Psychology Today: “Internet Trolls Are Narcissists, Psychopaths, and Sadists. An Internet troll is someone who comes into a discussion and posts comments designed to upset or disrupt the conversation. Often, in fact, it seems like there is no real purpose behind their comments except to upset everyone else involved. Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.”

            So you call us a hapless basket case and a REAL Psychologist calls you a Psychopath. I think we’ll consider the sources of both those when we decide which is correct.

          • glenbo

            My dialogue does not fit your definition.
            How sad when you loose a debate you resort to demonizing and name calling. How childish.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            There’s that Giant Sequoia Tree again. And you just proved it again. Hypocrite & Troll. Oh, and you can add childish now too.

            Thanks for publicly showing all who actually lost the debate.

          • glenbo

            >>”You just lied in every single one of those statements.”<<

            You know what?
            You're right.
            I lied.
            I'm a nutcase.
            I'm so sorry.
            Thank you for telling me that.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            You’re welcome.

            Dr. Brown’s last words in the article were, “So, don’t be weary in getting your message out, even if people don’t seem to listen. Others may be listening. And in the end, truth will triumph.”

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            I suggest you not feed the trolls. That is why they are here. They WANT you to engage them. They NEED you to engage them. They are doing their best to assuage their guilty conscience and convince themselves what they KNOW is wrong.

            And then take your Sword of the Spirit and slice their lies up. Let your light shine on them with a little verse or two of applicable Scripture.

            “so shall my word be that goes out from my mouth;
            it shall not return to me empty,
            but it shall accomplish that which I purpose,
            and shall succeed in the thing for which I sent it.” (Isa. 55:11)

            If there’s one thing the spiritually-dead and their darkness can’t stand it’s the light of the truth shining on them. If we flood this page with enough of the Light from God’s Word they will flee back to the darkness from which they come. Just like cockroaches in the darkness fleeing when the light is turned out because the Light of God’s Word exposes the Truth to them and they can’t stand it.

            And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. (John 3:19-20)

            Pretty sure, my dear, that your asking “glenbo” to ask God to give him understanding is spitting in the wind. See Matt. 7:6.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            The very fact that you have to ask that questions says all that needs to be said.

          • glenbo

            When you use an imaginary “authority” to demonize and marginalize others, the burden is on YOU to prove this so-called authority is real.
            Otherwise you hold an empty sack.

          • glenbo

            >>”The very fact that you have to ask that questions says all that needs to be said.”<<
            Oh My Gawd!
            What a childish cop-out response. If you don't have a clue why homosexuality is "shameful," it's okay to admit you don't know.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            That the best ya got? Blaspheme God in a oh to overt attempt to offend, resort to ad hominem, and demogoguery? What a childish cop-out response. If you don’t have a clue why homosexuality is “shameful,” it’s okay to admit you don’t know. Here, maybe this will help ya:

            Shameful – worthy of or causing shame or disgrace.
            “a shameful accusation”
            synonyms: disgraceful, deplorable, despicable, contemptible, dishonorable, discreditable, reprehensible, low, unworthy, ignoble, shabby; shocking, scandalous, outrageous, abominable, atrocious, appalling, vile, odious, heinous, egregious, loathsome, bad; inexcusable, unforgivable; informallowdown, hateful
            “shameful behavior”

          • Dorrie

            Actually, Gary, Torah is for all mankind, not just the Jews. It was given to Moses before there was ever a Jew and it was given to the children of Israel “and ALL THE STRANGERS that traveled with them”! Look at the 10 Commandments. Aren’t they for everyone? They are part of Torah 🙂

          • Shaquille Harvey

            Judges 21:10-24

            https://m(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=XR-p4JAol1g

            2Samuel 12:11-14

            Let’s start of by explaining what is really happening here. David killed a man (or at least he allowed him to be killed) so he could have his wife. This was a wicked thing David had done, so God (presented by Nathan here) told David what will happen because of this. His wives will cheat on him and his son will die, but David (since he repented) will live. This only illustrates a ‘’domino effect’’ that will result from David’s sin. God has nothing to do with what will happen.

            http://www(dot)tektonics(dot)org/guest/ad76(dot)htm

            Exodus 21:7-11
            http://christianthinktank(dot)com/qnoslave(dot)html
            Please scroll down to the section that talks about this verse.

            Zechariah 14:1-2
            The obvious problem here is with the idea of ‘’assisting’’ this. As stated numerous times before, God is in no way responsible for this. He is Israel’s helper and the one protecting them. When Israel started acting wicked, God stopped being their helper. And this is, again, only a result of God’s departure from Israel.

            We would do well to remember what God said in Hosea 9 ‘’Woe to them, when I turn away from them’’ or as other translations have it ‘’It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone’’.

            http://www(dot)tektonics(dot)org/guest/ad76(dot)htm

            Leviticus 19:20-22
            http://christianthinktank(dot)com/qnoslave(dot)html
            Please scroll down to the section that talks about this verse. (Around the bottom)

            Numbers 31:7-18
            Deuteronomy 21:10-14
            https://m(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?list=PL2589BA1C5021136C&v=xzqxmhTllSA

            https://m(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?list=PL2589BA1C5021136C&params=OAFIAVgH&v=OWMQK-jB-w4&mode=NORMAL

            The same would also apply for

            Judges 5:30
            Deuteronomy 20:10-14

            Deuteronomy 22:23-24;
            Not quite;

            Deuteronomy 22:28-29 is not speaking of rape as we define it today, but of the man who takes advantage of a young woman and has intercourse with her and then wants to dump her and take off and brag to his friends about a “conquest.” The Bible says he is to marry her and unlike other married men, he is never allowed to dump her/divorce her.
            Deuteronomy 22:25 speaks of the actual crime of rape. It is to be punished with DEATH.

          • glenbo

            OH MY GAWD!
            SO rape, like slavery was
            “different” back then and therefore it was a moral thing to do…according to GOD???
            Yikes.
            No wonder we have a mad man in the White House.

          • Shaquille Harvey

            Did you even read all that was stated including the particular articles and sections that mentioned and sent ?

          • glenbo

            >>”Did you even read all that was stated”<<
            Of course not, but I fully intend to as I saved it.
            Your God is an immoral one by drowning all life on earth including children, toddlers, babies and the unborn.
            Not only do I not believe your God exists, I have no reason to believe the bible is true.
            If you want to marginalize a demographic group (LGBT people) you need to come from a legitimate rationale. The bible and an imaginary God is not a rational justification for marginalizing any group of people.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            How arrogant does one have to be to think you can stand in judgment of Almighty God? Just further evidence of your self-deluded faux omniscience from your psychotic self-imposed god-complex?

            Moreover, who are YOU to talk about Morality? Oh, do tell us Almighty Obi-Wan Kenobi, just where do you get your Morality from? This oughtta be fun. I think we’re about to find out who is weak-minded!

            As far as you having no reason to believe the Bible is true, you’re right. Ignorance is bliss. There is plenty of evidence for the validity and veracity of Scripture for anyone who has an open mind and willing to do the hard research.

            Given that, once again, you’re in NO place to talk about “legitimate rational”. Your opinion is duly noted and given the worth it deserves. NONE!

            A wise man once said it is better to keep your mouth shut and not show your ignorance than open it and remove all doubt. You should work on your wisdom a bit.

            “Wise men speak because they have something to say, fools speak because they have to say something” – Plato

          • glenbo

            >>”How arrogant does one have to be to think you can
            stand in judgment of Almighty God?___

            Moreover, who are YOU to talk about Morality?”<>”where do you get your Morality from?”<<

            From empathy and the desire to ensure the well-being of my fellow man.

            You apparently get yours from a monster who murders and drowns children, condones the beating to death of slaves and rape.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            PIty me all you like. If that help soothe your in ability to answer the question and feed your self-righteousness have at it. That’ll end one day soon.

            Since when does Empathy have anything to do with Morality? No doubt you can empathize with all sorts of immorality and you think that’s Moral? LOL

            Who defines what the well-being of your fellow man is? Oh, let me guess. YOU!

            Uh no, the only thing that is apparent is that you an evil, wicked degenerate reprobate that is his own god of his own Universe.

            “Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive.” “The venom of asps is under their lips.” “Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness.” (Rom. 3:13-14)

            “They pour forth words, they speak arrogantly; All who do wickedness vaunt themselves.” (Psa 94:4)

            “You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. (John 8:44)

            Like a dog that returns to its vomit is a fool who repeats his folly. (Prov. 26:11)

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            When the spiritually dead try to read the Book of Life it’s like a blind man trying to read a road map before hopping in the car to drive. You have to get a heart transplant before you can have eyes to see.

            Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God.” (John 8:47)

            “The unbeliever does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him. And he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.” (1st Cor. 2:14)

            “There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.” (2nd Peter 3:16)

          • tether

            The verses you list from Judges is not God ordering women to marry a rapist. It is an example of fallen men doing what men do. Sin.

          • glenbo

            Judges 21:10-24

            Numbers 31:7-18

            Deuteronomy 20:10-14

            Deuteronomy 22:28-29

            Deuteronomy 22:23-24

            2 Samuel 12:11-14

            Deuteronomy 21:10-14

            Judges 5:30

            Exodus 21:7-11

            Zechariah 14:1-2

            Leviticus 19:20-22

          • Mark Bradshaw

            And you sound like someone who has NO CLUE about Christianity – like a “cafeteria atheist”.

          • tether

            Don’t you know many of the laws of our nation and many others come from the Bible?

          • glenbo

            >>”Don’t you know many of the laws of our nation and many others come from the Bible?”<<
            Where does the law against rape come from?
            Where does the law against child molestation come from?
            Where does the law against owning slaves come from?

          • tether

            Rape, and child molestation are forms of sexual immorality, bible says flee sexual immorality.
            As for slaves there are plenty of verses that talk about owning slaves but they also describe the way they are to be treated which is not in the manner in which most slaves have been treated historically.
            There also seems to be a clause that makes it clear that a slave is not bound permanently to that status. While I am far from an expert on the matter I also know that there where laws from the old testament that were strictly between God, and the Jewish people under Moses . We also know that Jesus fulfilled those laws and for example the old dietary laws were clearly done away with. All things are good for food as long as they are received with thanksgiving. Jesus said What comes out of a man is what makes him `unclean.’ For from within, out of men’s hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and make a man `unclean.’”

          • glenbo

            >>“Rape, and child molestation are forms of sexual
            immorality”<>“they also describe the way they are to be treated
            which is not in the manner in which most slaves have been treated historically.”<>“All these evils come from inside and make a man
            `unclean.’”<<

            I have gay relatives, friends, clients and employees.

            Are you saying these people who are dear to me who have done nothing wrong are all “evil?”

          • tether

            You have a poor understanding of the Bible, and God.
            I suspect that you are referring to the old testament law that Jesus fulfilled, where a rapist had to pay a brides price to the father of the one he violated. Unless a marriage was agreed upon.
            As for those who are gay, not I but God’s Word, says they are doing evil. Sex outside of God’s design of one man and one woman united for life is evil.
            As for owning another human you will have to ask God for clarification.
            I know that there are examples of things in the Bible that men did that were sin. Example, while God clearly stated that a man was only to have one wife and sex outside of that is a sin, the Bible gives multiple examples of imperfect men who took multiple wives. That does not mean or imply God’s consent or approval. Nor does the fact that God allows man to commit other sins imply approval. It shows that we all have fall short of His glory and none no not one of us are Holy or righteous. That is why we need a Savior.
            As for beating another human to death I don’t see anywhere in the New testament where that was allowed. In fact Jesus said let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Jesus did away with stoning.
            We are all commanded to repent of our sins. This is not a request or a suggestion by God. It is not an invitation, it is a requirement. Acts17:30 And the times of this ignorance God overlooked; but now commands all men everywhere to repent:

          • glenbo

            >>” I but God’s Word, says they are doing evil.”<>” As for owning another human you will have to ask
            God for clarification. “<>” As for beating another human to death I don’t see
            anywhere in the New testament where that was allowed.”<<

            Was God wrong about owning and beating slaves?

        • yod1948

          THEY identify themselves by what they do with their genitalia.

          If someone chooses behavior detrimental to any organization, then it is THEIR choice to be discriminated against.

          • glenbo

            >>”THEY identify themselves by what they do with their genitalia”<<
            How do you identify yourself?

    • Gary

      There is something wrong with this thing. It won’t let me answer your questions about what the NT says about homosexuality.

      Adultery and fornication both indicate sex outside of marriage. And both are condemned. Matthew 15:19, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10. And marriage is defined as the union of a man and a woman. Mark 10:7
      So, there is no way for two men or two women to have sex that God would consider to be moral because God does not allow homosexual marriage.

      Homosexuality is also condemned on its own. Romans 1:26-27.

    • Royce E. Van Blaricome

      Answer: The Alphabetians do. You know, the LGBTQABCXYZ+50 crowd. Their demand for not only acceptance and tolerance that has shifted to outright approval now is thrown in our face and shoved down our throats every single day in just about every place one goes. From TV to Radio to Newsprint to Politics to you-name-it.

      There ain’t a day that goes by that the sexually immoral don’t tout and trumpet their perversions with regard to one thing or another.

      • glenbo

        You need to ignore what strangers to with their genitalia. That’s just too creepy.
        If you demonize a group for NO LOGICAL REASON, they will rise up.
        People like YOU created this rising by targeting LGBT people for discrimination for NO LOGICAL REASON. Leave them alone and you won’t even know they exist.
        But because people like you obsess what people do with their genitalia, you must expect back lash. If you don’t like the back lash, then I suggest you just live and let live.

        • Dorrie

          Wrong. They rise up in SPITE of people minding their own business! Remember how Obama lit up the White House with rainbow colors? Guess what!! The RAINBOW is God’s covenant with humanity that He will never destroy the earth again with a flood. It doesn’t belong to people who are perverse and hate His covenants!

          So essentially, glenbo, YOU are obsessing because we believers want YOU to keep your perversion to YOURSELF, rather than shoving it into our faces and the faces of our children!

          • Orel lmmanuel Goldmann

            Amen! !!!! That’s right.

          • glenbo

            How wonderful!

          • Dorrie

            No, little man, you aren’t. You are hell-bound, and it’s TRAGIC!

          • glenbo

            How do you know Hell is real and not just a lie to control weak minded people?

          • Dorrie

            Because GOD is real and He says so! You appear to be a very weak minded person!

          • glenbo

            >>”Because GOD is real and He says so!”<<
            The Invisible Magic Leprechaun that lives in my garden is real.
            He told me so.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            Dorrie, report his Leprechaun comments. Maybe they’ll ban the jerk.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            “That there are what I or anyone would call supernatural forces at work is now, I think, a scientifically proven fact.” – Agnostic Scientist Robert Jastrow

            Was he “weak minded”?

            “Antony Flew, an English philosopher and outspoken atheist who stunned and dismayed the unbelieving faithful when he announced in 2004 that God probably did exist, died April 8, 2010 in Reading, England. He was 87 and lived in Reading. His death was confirmed by Roy Abraham Varghese, with whom he wrote “There Is a God: How the World’s Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind,” published in 2007.”

            “In fact, Antony Flew, who was an atheist, a very prominent atheist, but recently became a theist, or at least a deist as a result of this evidence said, “It is impossible for evolution to account for the fact that one single cell can carry more data than all the volumes of the Encyclopedia Britannica put together. It now seems to me that the findings of more than 50 years of DNA research have provided materials for a new and enormously powerful argument from design.”

            Another “weak minded” person? Thank you for the fine public display of bigotry, ignorance, and totally discredited yourself.

          • glenbo

            >>”supernatural forces at work is now, I think, a
            scientifically proven fact”<>”It now seems to me that the findings of more than
            50 years of DNA research have provided materials for a new and enormously powerful argument from design.”<<

            Here is a list of genetic disorders.

            There are 4 References

            Most common disorders:

            P – Point mutation, or any insertion/deletion entirely
            inside one gene
            D – Deletion of a gene or genes
            C – Whole chromosome extra, missing, or both (see Chromosome abnormality)
            T – Trinucleotide repeat disorders: gene is extended in
            length

            They are listed in the order of: Disorder, Mutation and Chromosome.

            22q11.2 deletion syndrome D 22q

            Angelman syndrome DCP 15

            Canavan disease 17p

            Charcot–Marie–Tooth disease

            Color blindness P X

            Cri du chat D 5

            Cystic fibrosis P 7q

            Down syndrome C 21

            Duchenne muscular dystrophy D Xp

            Familial Hypercholesterolemia P

            Haemochromatosis P 6

            Haemophilia P X

            Klinefelter syndrome C X

            Neurofibromatosis
            17q/22q/?

            Phenylketonuria P 12q

            Polycystic kidney disease P 16 (PKD1) or 4 (PKD2)

            Prader–Willi syndrome DC 15

            Sickle-cell disease P 11p

            Spinal muscular atrophy DP 5q

            Tay–Sachs disease P 15

            Turner syndrome C X

            Here is the full (currently known) list.

            They are listed in the order of: Disorder, Mutation and
            Chromosome.

            1p36 deletion syndrome D 1p36

            18p deletion syndrome D 18p

            21-hydroxylase deficiency
            6p21.3

            47,XXX

            see triple X syndrome C X

            47,XXY

            see Klinefelter syndrome C X

            5-ALA dehydratase-deficient porphyria

            see ALA dehydratase deficiency

            AAT

            see alpha 1-antitrypsin deficiency 14q32

            aceruloplasminemia
            3p26.3

            Achondrogenesis type II
            12q13.11

            achondroplasia substitution 4p16.3

            Acrocephaly

            see Apert syndrome
            10q26.13

            acute intermittent porphyria

            adenylosuccinate lyase deficiency

            Adrenoleukodystrophy

            Alagille syndrome

            Albinism

            Alexander disease

            alkaptonuria

            ALS

            see amyotrophic lateral sclerosis

            Alström syndrome

            Alzheimer's disease

            Amelogenesis imperfecta

            androgen insensitivity syndrome

            Anemia

            Angelman syndrome

            ataxia telangiectasia

            B variant of the Hexosaminidase GM2 gangliosidosis

            see Sandhoff disease

            Beare-Stevenson cutis gyrata syndrome 10q26

            Benjamin syndrome

            biotinidase deficiency

            Birth Defects

            Bloom syndrome
            15q26.1

            Birt–Hogg–Dubé syndrome
            17

            Broad Thumb-Hallux syndrome

            see Rubinstein-Taybi syndrome

            CADASIL syndrome P 3

            CGD Chronic granulomatous disorder

            Campomelic dysplasia C 17q24.3-q25.1

            Canavan disease

            Cancer

            Caylor cardiofacial syndrome

            see 22q11.2 deletion syndrome D 22q

            CF

            see cystic fibrosis[1] D (most common);

            or substitution CFTR
            (7q31.2)

            Charcot–Marie–Tooth disease

            CHARGE syndrome

            Chondrodystrophy with dysplasia

            see otospondylomegaepiphyseal dysplasia

            Cockayne syndrome

            Coffin–Lowry syndrome

            collagenopathy, types II and XI

            Cowden syndrome

            CPO deficiency

            see hereditary coproporphyria

            Cri du chat D 5p

            Crohn's disease, P 16q12

            Crouzon syndrome
            FGFR2 (10q25.3-q26)

            Crouzon syndrome with acanthosis nigricans

            see Crouzonodermoskeletal syndrome

            cutis gyrata syndrome of Beare-Stevenson

            see Beare-Stevenson cutis gyrata syndrome

            Genetic hypercalciuria

            see Dent's disease
            Xp11.22

            de Grouchy syndrome 1

            see De Grouchy syndrome D 18p

            Di George's syndrome D 22q

            distal hereditary motor neuropathy

            Ehlers–Danlos syndrome

            Erythroblastic anemia

            see beta-thalassemia

            FA

            see fanconi anemia

            Fabry disease P Xq22.1

            factor V Leiden thrombophilia

            familial adenomatous polyposis

            familial dysautonomia

            FG syndrome

            Friedreich's ataxia

            G6PD deficiency

            galactosemia

            Gaucher disease

            Glioma, retinal

            see retinoblastoma

            Glycine encephalopathy

            see Nonketotic hyperglycinemia

            Haemochromatosis

            see hemochromatosis

            Harlequin type ichthyosis

            hemophilia

            hepatoerythropoietic porphyria

            Hereditary coproporphyria P 3q12

            Hereditary hemorrhagic telangiectasia (HHT)

            Hereditary Inclusion Body Myopathy

            see skeletal muscle regeneration

            Hereditary multiple exostoses

            Hereditary spastic paraplegia

            see infantile-onset ascending hereditary spastic
            paralysis

            Hereditary spinal ataxia

            see Friedreich's ataxia

            HNPP

            see hereditary neuropathy with liability to pressure
            palsies

            homocystinuria

            Huntington's disease T 4p16.3

            Hutchinson–Gilford progeria syndrome

            see progeria

            hyperoxaluria, primary

            hyperphenylalaninemia

            Hypochondrogenesis

            Hypochondroplasia
            4p16.3

            ICF syndrome

            see Immunodeficiency, centromere instability and facial
            anomalies syndrome 20q11.2

            Incontinentia pigmenti P Xq28

            infantile-onset ascending hereditary spastic paralysis

            Isodicentric 15

            see isodicentric 15 Inv dup 15q11-14

            Jackson–Weiss syndrome

            Joubert syndrome

            JPLS

            see Juvenile Primary Lateral Sclerosis ALS2

            Keloid disorder

            Kniest dysplasia

            Krabbe disease

            Lesch-Nyhan syndrome

            Li-Fraumeni syndrome

            lipoprotein lipase deficiency, familial

            Marfan syndrome 15

            McCune–Albright syndrome
            20 q13.2-13.3

            McLeod syndrome X

            MEDNIK[2][3] D AP1S1

            Mediterranean fever, familial

            Menkes disease

            Mental retardation with osteocartilaginous abnormalities

            see Coffin–Lowry syndrome

            Methemoglobinemia

            methylmalonic acidemia

            Micro syndrome 2q21.3

            Microcephaly P 1q31 (ASPM)

            Mowat-Wilson syndrome

            Mucopolysaccharidosis (MPS I)

            Muenke syndrome

            Muscular dystrophy

            Muscular dystrophy, Duchenne and Becker type

            myotonic dystrophy

            Neurofibromatosis type I
            17q11.2

            Neurofibromatosis type II

            Niemann-Pick

            see Niemann–Pick disease NPA, NPB, NPC1, NPC2,

            Sphingomyelin phosphodiesterase 1 SMPD1

            Nonketotic hyperglycinemia

            see Glycine encephalopathy

            nonsyndromic deafness

            Noonan syndrome

            Ogden syndrome P X

            osteogenesis imperfecta

            pantothenate kinase-associated neurodegeneration

            Patau Syndrome (Trisomy 13)

            PCC deficiency

            see propionic acidemia

            PCT

            see porphyria cutanea tarda

            Pendred syndrome

            Peutz-Jeghers syndrome

            Pfeiffer syndrome

            phenylketonuria

            Polycystic kidney disease P 16 (PKD1) or 4 (PKD2)

            Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome (PCOS)

            porphyria

            Prader-Willi syndrome

            Primary ciliary dyskinesia (PCD)

            primary pulmonary hypertension

            protein C deficiency

            protein S deficiency

            protoporphyria

            see erythropoietic protoporphyria

            Prion disease

            pseudo-Gaucher disease

            pseudoxanthoma elasticum

            Rett syndrome

            RSTS

            see Rubinstein-Taybi syndrome

            Schwartz–Jampel syndrome

            SED congenita

            see spondyloepiphyseal dysplasia congenita

            sickle cell anemia P 11p15

            Siderius X-linked mental retardation syndrome

            caused by mutations in the PHF8 gene PD Xp11.22

            Smith-Lemli-Opitz syndrome

            Smith Magenis Syndrome

            spinal muscular atrophy

            spinocerebellar ataxia

            SSB syndrome

            see SADDAN

            Stickler syndrome

            Strudwick syndrome

            see spondyloepimetaphyseal dysplasia, Strudwick type

            Tay-Sachs disease

            tetrahydrobiopterin deficiency

            thanatophoric dysplasia

            Treacher Collins syndrome
            5q32-q33.1

            Trisomy 21

            see Down syndrome

            Tuberous Sclerosis Complex (TSC)

            see Tuberous sclerosis

            TSC1, TSC2

            Turner's syndrome

            see Turner syndrome X

            Usher syndrome

            variegate porphyria

            von Hippel-Lindau disease

            Waardenburg syndrome

            Weissenbacher-Zweymüller syndrome

            Williams Syndrome

            Wilson disease

            Wolf–Hirschhorn syndrome D 4p

            Xeroderma pigmentosum ERCC4 15

            X-linked mental retardation and macroorchidism

            see fragile X syndrome
            X

            X-linked spinal-bulbar muscle atrophy

            see spinal and bulbar muscular atrophy X

            X-SCID

            see X-linked severe combined immunodeficiency X

            XLSA

            see X-linked sideroblastic anemia X

            XXXX syndrome

            see 48, XXXX X

            XXXXX syndrome

            see 49, XXXXX X

            XYY syndrome

            see 47,XYY syndrome

            So if God is such a marvelous genetic design engineer, why
            do millions of humans suffer from such a vast assortment of such horrible genetic
            disorders?

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            SIN.

          • RuthER

            Glenbo have you considered how homosexual behavior impacts health care costs for everyone (both medical and mental health care)?

          • glenbo

            >>”Glenbo have you considered how homosexual behavior impacts health care costs for everyone”<<
            No I haven't.
            Have you?

          • glenbo

            >>”Glenbo have you considered how homosexual behavior impacts health care costs for everyone”<<
            No I haven't.
            Have you?

          • Dorrie

            Well said, Royce and AMEN!!

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            You’re such a pathetic hypocrite!! Or is somebody twisting your arm and forcing you to come here?

          • glenbo

            >>”You’re such a pathetic hypocrite!!”<<
            How so?

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            Boy howdy! You are a dense one aren’t ya. Totally blind. Trying thinking about it for a change. You only need to ponder your own words to Dorrie in the post above mine.

          • glenbo

            There is no reason for me to believe in God.

            And if you cannot prove God exists, you have no say as to how others can live their lives.

          • Dorrie

            Should God believe in YOU???

            It isn’t up to me to prove He exists, He has already proven that. A BILLION of us know Him. And you will too one day. I just pray it won’t be too late for you.

          • glenbo

            >>”It isn’t up to me to prove He exists,”<<
            If you cannot do so, you have no say as to how others can or cannot live their lives.

          • Dorrie

            Wrong. It has been proven to me, that’s all that matters. Each of us seeks Him and those who truly want to find Him, DO.

            Your next foul reply will be met with blocking.

            Shabbat Shalom

          • glenbo

            >>”Wrong. It has been proven to me,”<<
            I have no doubt you believe in the God you were raised to believe in as a small child. You have that right whether or not you have chosen the correct God to believe in. Muslims feel exactly the same way you do. And I respect your right to do so, as my right to not believe must also be respected.
            My point isn't about whether you believe in God or whether I do…it's about how you behave towards others based on whatever it is you believe in.
            Since it is impossible to demonstrate that any God exists, never mind the one you have chosen to believe in out of thousands, religion cannot and must not be used and/or abused a tool to govern and/or control the lives of anyone else except your own.
            In other words, you can treat your live according to your beliefs as you wish…but you cannot control and/or dictate what others can or cannot do based on what you believe.

          • Dorrie

            Actually I wasn’t “raised to believe …” I came to know Him as an adult. Your suppositions are as wrong as everything else is in your small, twisted mind. So sorry.

          • glenbo

            >>”Your suppositions are as wrong as everything else is in your small, twisted mind.”<<
            Why are you insulting me?

          • Dorrie

            YOU are the insult to this thread and now you’re blocked.

          • glenbo

            >>” YOU are the insult to this thread”<<

            Do you feel insulted because what I say about your
            irrational belief in an imaginary slavery and rape condoning God who not only murdered children, toddlers, infants and pregnant women… but also instructed people to do so… makes you uncomfortable?

            Do I make you uncomfortable with the fact that you have to
            push these barbaric atrocities out of your mind to avoid feeling guilty for loving and worshipping a child murdering monster?

            Does it make you uncomfortable that even though your
            imaginary God “loves” you, he will gladly give you and your children cancer or one or more of over 10,000 diseases and watch you or your child die a slow painful death?

            Does it trouble you that your loving God allows 20,000
            children to die every day, allows murder, war, tornadoes, earthquakes and a tsunami that drowned almost a quarter of a million people in a single day?

            Do you feel insulted when someone like me tells you how
            absurd you are to accept all of this, and worship the “creator” who totally failed and dropped the ball on an entire world because Adam ate fruit?

            Do I make you feel stupid when I point out all the absurd stuff
            you believe and the horrible barbaric stuff you push out of your mind? Does that insult you?

            Then I guess you are right.
            I am an insult.
            Thanks for blocking me.
            I earned it.

          • Natureboi

            You realize, Glenbo…one cannot rationalize with irrational people!

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            Thank you for putting on full public display exactly what the agenda of you and your ilk are trying to obtain. Silence anyone who is not a God-hating, totally-depraved son of disobedience, spiritually-dead child of wrath who is doing their daddy, Satan’s, bidding.

            And you are dead in your trespasses and sins, in which you walk according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. Among them you live in the lusts of your flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and are by nature children of wrath (Eph. 2:1-3)

            Unfortunately for you, we are NOT going away and we will NOT be silenced!

          • glenbo

            >>”Oh, and btw, there IS a VERY good reason for you to believe in God. It’s called Eternity.”<>”But you do KNOW God is real for He has made it CLEARLY known to you.”<<
            How so?

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            Because it is a VERY long time. Especially where you’re gonna spend it.

            LOL. Oh my, you are a genius aren’t you.

            18 For the wrath of God IS REVEALED from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because that which IS KNOWN about God IS EVIDENT within them; for God MADE IT EVIDENT to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been CLEARLY SEEN, being understood through what has been made, so that they are WITHOUT EXCUSE 21 For even though they KNEW God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools (Rom. 1:18-22)

            Or do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that God’s kindness is meant to lead you to repentance? But because of your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed. He will render to each one according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury. There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, (Rom 2:4-9)

            They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus. (Rom 2:15-16)

            Think real hard and you might recall a time back some while ago when you actually had a conscience and hadn’t seared it yet.

          • yod1948

            If you can’t prove He doesn’t, neither do you.

          • Goldmann

            You only have to look at creation. so you have no excuse. The fool has said their is no GOD. GOD COMMAND’s all men to repent. Seek the LORD, WHILE HE MAY BE FOUND.

          • glenbo

            Why would I want to find someone/something that condones slavery, rape and murders children?
            Why would I want to find an entity that created cancer among over 10,000 other diseases…that creates earthquakes, tsunamis, hurricanes and tornadoes that kill hundreds of thousands?
            Why would I want to find someone who wants my gay relatives, friend, employees and clients murdered?
            Only a fool would worship such a being.

        • yod1948

          THEY identify themselves by what they do with their genitalia. Therefore, it becomes the issue we are forced to deal with. You can’t have it both ways. Either it matters or it doesn’t. There are many good reasons to discriminate against someone because of their behavior; felons don’t get to vote (unless they’re Democrat) and convicted pedophiles don’t get to live near elementary schools, for example. The list goes on and on and on and on and on….

          If someone chooses behavior detrimental to any organization, then it is THEIR choice to be discriminated against.

          • glenbo

            >>”If someone chooses behavior detrimental to any organization”<<
            Please explain this "detriment."

          • yod1948

            The purpose of any military is to kill people and break things. Distractions from that sole agenda is a life-or-death issue for those being distracted. Social engineering of any kind does not belong on the battlefield. When that kind of idiotic thinking infects our military, it will be “detrimental” to all Americans to have our heads removed for allah.

          • glenbo

            >>”Bad behavior is not protected nor a civil right.”<<
            Where do you get your information of gender dysphoria from?

          • yod1948

            When did you stop beating your wife?

        • Orel lmmanuel Goldmann

          Oh shut up

        • Royce E. Van Blaricome

          A wise man once said it is better to keep your mouth shut and not show your ignorance than open it and remove all doubt. You should work on your wisdom a bit.

          “Wise men speak because they have something to say, fools speak because they have to say something” – Plato

          “Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive.” “The venom of asps is under their lips.” “Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness.” (Rom. 3:13-14)

          First, I’m quite certain you are in NO place or position to tell me what I need to do. That’s a pretty arrogant statement for you to say to someone who don’t know from the Man in the Moon.

          Second, anyone that has eyes to see and a 3rd Grade education can see I made NO comment about what anyone, stranger or otherwise, should do with the genitalia.

          Third, given that you never bothered asking my I even wrote what I did I can state unequivocally that you have NO clue as to whether I have a LOGICAL REASON or not.

          Fourth, when you can find the time to take the Giant Sequoia Tree outta your eye socket you just might realize your “they will rise up” applies to Christians too. Thanks for the Alphabetians inability to “live and let live” Christians are increasingly rising up against the MINORITY of loudmouths demanding that everyone not only tolerate but approve of their perversions.

          Fiftth, that’s just patently false. There has been an ongoing spiritual war since Satan rebelled against God. But thankfully it WILL end soon.

          “A little while, and the wicked will be no more; though you look for them, they will not be found. ” (Psalm 37:10)

          “and they cried out with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, will You refrain from judging and avenging our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”” (Rev. 6:10)

          “This is evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be considered worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are also suffering— since indeed God considers it just to repay with affliction those who afflict you, and to grant relief to you who are afflicted as well as to us, when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels in flaming fire, inflicting vengeance on those who do not know God and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might” (2Thes. 1:5-9)

          “Leave them alone and you won’t even know they exist.”

          Yeah right. You obviously have internet access so you’re not living in a cave. That leaves only two options. Either your oblivious to what is happening every single day with one perversion after another being thrust in our face or you’re just a Liar. Given you’re on this thread and I image troll FB too it must be the later.

          Now practice what you preach and take a hike!

          • glenbo

            Thank you for your response.

            I have several questions. Please put your anger aside if
            possible, and let’s do what Tony Perkins insist on doing…have a debate.

            You said, and I quote:

            >>” First, I’m quite certain you are in NO place or position to tell me what I need to do.”<>” Second, anyone that has eyes to see and a 3rd Grade education can see I made NO comment about what anyone, stranger or otherwise, should do with the genitalia.”<>” you have NO clue as to whether I have a LOGICAL REASON or not.

            Question 2)

            What is your “logical reason” to take issue with the LGBT “crowd?”

            >>” Christians are increasingly rising up”<>” demanding that everyone not only tolerate but approve of their perversions.”<>” Either your oblivious to what is happening every single day with one perversion after another being thrust in our face or you’re just a Liar.”<<

            Question 5)

            Exactly what has been shoved in YOUR face?

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            “Please put your anger aside if possible, and let’s do what Tony Perkins insist on doing…have a debate.”

            Your self-deluded faux omniscience from your psychotic self-imposed god-complex had failed again. No anger here, bub.

            I like Tony most of the time. However, I’m not about to take your word for what he said and I don’t know what the context of what he said was – according to you.

            Moreover, not only is this not the forum for a debate but I will always obey my Lord Jesus Christ before any man. So I’m sticking with Matt. 7:6

  • yod1948

    how dare you bring truth into a propaganda discussion? hahaha. Sick ’em, Doc

  • glenbo

    Thank you for this comment.

  • glenbo

    >>” God is NOT imaginary”<>” He is simply proves the Bible true because He’s
    said it would happen.”<>” There IS EVIDENCE of their belief in God. Again”<>” We are Messengers. Ambassadors of the Lord Jesus
    Christ commissioned to deliver a message.”<>” is you KNOW there is a God”<>” reject the Truth and evidence”<>” I just hope I’m the last face you get to see on
    your way to eternal torment. Because I do so want to see the look on your face as you hear me say, “I told you so!””<<

    This pleases you? You are sick.
    The best proof you have is threatening me? Your ideology is flaw at the start by relying upon threats.

    Why would I deserve such an extreme punishment? This is immoral. I have done nothing wrong. It is God’s fault for concealing himself from me and it is immoral to punish someone for his own failure to present himself.
    Arrogant.

    • Royce E. Van Blaricome

      “God exists ONLY in the imaginations of those who believe in him.”

      Uh no. You made the accusation/claim. Prove it.

      “The liars who fabricated the bible knew they would be doubted. For god himself to predict his own existence being doubted and challenged proves the weakness of his alleged “presence.”

      Prove they were liars. Prove they knew they would be doubted. Ya can’t. That’s why you resort to demagoguery. It also shows your ignorance, laziness, and bigotry,. The evidence on how the Bible came to be is a matter of historical record. Losers have to resort to that sort of regurgitated gruel. Thanks for publicly displaying your a Loser and a Troll.

      “Not when you act like gay hating bigots. Your “message” is hate, intolerance, unacceptance and rejection for no logical reason.”

      More ad hominem and demagoguery. Thanks for showing everyone all ya got. NOTHING. And, once again, let it be noted that the troll doesn’t understand he is in NO place or position to define what a Christian is. Those his own bigotry is readily apparent.

      “This pleases you? You are sick.”

      You bet it does! What normal sentient person with a conscience and cognizant mental abilities wouldn’t want to see justice done and God’s vengeance taken out on those who’ve practiced their evil, wicked deeds. You’ve already shown you make it habit to come on here and mock Christians, harass them, and blaspheme God. So absolutely YES! It would please me very much to have my face be the last thing you see and “I told you so!!” the last thing you hear as Christ hurls your evil, wicked, blaspheming butt into the Lake Of Fire where you will be tormented forever. With any luck, those words will ring in your ears for, oh say, a bazillion years.

      As far as your diagnosis to my physical or mental health, I think I’ll just consider the source and not put too much stock in the input of a spiritually dead, totally-depraved, son of disobedience and child of wrath that only knows how to do his daddy, Satan’s, bidding as one of his many minions.

      “This is evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be considered worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are also suffering— since indeed God considers it just to repay with affliction those who afflict you, and to grant relief to you who are afflicted as well as to us, when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels in flaming fire, inflicting vengeance on those who do not know God and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might” (2Thes. 1:5-9)

      The best proof you have is threatening me? Your ideology is flaw at the start by relying upon threats.

      Not a threat. A promise.

      “This is immoral. I have done nothing wrong. ”

      LOL! Thanks!! That was a good one. I gotta real good chuckle outta that one. THANKS!

      “It is God’s fault for concealing himself from me and it is immoral to punish someone for his own failure to present himself.”

      One sentence, two problems. First, God has not concealed Himself from you. Don’t blame God when He calls you and you’ve already plugged your ears because you desire to be your own god.

      “And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed.” (John 3:19-20)

      “Arrogant.”

      Yup. You definitely are. At least ya got that one right.

  • Dorrie

    Please note that “glenbo” is a troll. Nothing more, nothing less. It isn’t here to learn, it’s here to demean people who love God and His precepts. Please BLOCK it!

    • Sonny’s Mom

      And a very persistent one! Reminds me of something: during a formal liturgical exorcism, the priest and others present NEVER get into conversations with the “entity”, and must not focus on anything it says.

    • Goldmann

      Oh

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