After Charlottesville, Let’s Speak the Hard Truths, Not Just Moral Truisms

Police clash with demonstrators as they try to clear 'Antifa' members and anti-Trump protesters from the area during a protest on June 4, 2017, in Portland, Ore. Police used tear gas, flash bangs and rubber bullets to clear the crowd. A protest dubbed "Trump Free Speech" by organizers was met by a large contingent of counter-demonstrators who viewed the protest as a promotion of racism.

By Jason Jones & John Zmirak Published on August 13, 2017

The riot in Charlottesville, Virginia is a stain on America. It’s the fruit of growing political hate at both ends of the spectrum. It’s also a failure of law and order. The authorities’ first job is to keep the peace, while protecting the free speech rights even of the nastiest among us.

The pro-choice racists who marched in Charlottesville tempt people to silence them using their fists. We’ve felt that way often watching other flavors of pro-abortion pagans exercising their First Amendment rights. But using violence is wrong. It’s wrong against Republican congressmen and Antifa marchers, against neo-fascists and New Black Panthers, all alike. That’s the road to civil war. (Read this piece by liberal writer Peter Beinart on the reach, power, and virulence of the violent Antifa movement.)

We have a government in the first place to prevent strong disagreements from turning into violence. To keep people from getting killed in the streets. Not to routinely wave off the anti-speech violence of one rabid political faction (Antifa), then be shocked, shocked, when haters on the other side (the Alt-Right) decide to escalate. That’s what happens when the authorities giving orders to the police pick and choose which side gets to break the law.

That’s how Germany in the 1920s and 30s descended into chaos, then welcomed tyranny. We stumble down that same road when police and other authorities allow either side to use violence to intimidate or silence people.

But that’s not a message for today.

A Day to Come Together as a Nation and Virtue Signal

Today, for too many Christians and conservatives, is primarily a day for virtue-signalling. For the church to boldly step forward and denounce … exactly what the world denounces. Sometimes you do have to state the obvious. White racism is wrong. That is absolutely true. Saying that in the 1850s or even the 1950s in America was prophetic. It’s still true, of course.

But today it takes the same courage as crying: “We have no king but Caesar!” That was legally true in AD 33. And it kept the peace. Just imagine the vigor and voice which the scribes and Pharisees gave when they shouted that. It felt so … good!

What the world holds dear and protects … we leave that carefully alone.

  • The violent Antifa enemies of free speech on campus, who put on hoods and attack professors. ….
  • The elite faculty members who study “whiteness” and “maleness” and “heterosexuality” as if these were diseases. …
  • The imams who preach theocracy, child marriage, female genital mutilation, marital rape, and the Muslim conquest of the West. …
  • The clinics in every ghetto where a eugenics organization carries out its founder’s mission of weeding out the “unfit,” then sells their tiny parts for profit. …
  • The LGBT activists trying to outlaw therapy for troubled souls who want to resist their sinful inclinations, or children with sexual confusion. …

Cheap Grace by the Caseload

Well, we can’t address every evil, can we? So why don’t we focus on the really unfashionable, marginalized, contemptibly weak evils, which the world also condemns? That sounds really easy and comfortable. (There’s a blue light special in aisle 9: cheap grace, by the caseload!)

The democratic German establishment let Nazis come to dominate key departments in universities via conspiracy, fear, and silencing. Programs emerged to study Jewishness as if it were some sort of illness — you know, the way they’re studying “whiteness” and “maleness” today.

Do you want to know how and why the Nazis came to power? Because the establishment let them. It considered them idealists — rough around the edges, but with their hearts in the right place. They were vigorous, even dangerous. But at least they were fighting the greater evil, the real threat — the Communists. So the authorities in Germany treated the Nazis as our authorities treat Antifa today.

Remember that by the 20s and 30s, the USSR had already committed historic mass murder and was running concentration camps holding millions. (The Nazis hadn’t yet gotten the chance.) Surely the Commies were the greater evil.

So the democratic German establishment let Nazis come to dominate key departments in universities via conspiracy, fear, and silencing. Programs emerged to study Jewishness as if it were some sort of illness — you know, the way they’re studying “whiteness” and “maleness” today. (An almost equally virulent anti-Semitism is also empowered today on campuses, in the name of “anti-Zionism.”)

Does the comparison sound crazy? Remember that by the 1920s Jews in Germany were the wealthiest, best assimilated Jewish population in history. They were leaders in arts and sciences, the media and the academy. Because of their power and prominence, the bitter and envious felt entitled to attack them. To warn of their dangerous “dominance.” To blame them for Communism.

“We have no king but Caesar!”

You know, the way it’s now okay to vilify whites and males, and treat West Virginia coal miners as if they bore the blame for slavery. If anyone had suggested in 1925 that the accomplished Jewish population of Germany would be openly persecuted in 10 years, they would have been scoffed at as alarmists. Meanwhile, one university chair after another went to eugenicists or rabid nationalists. …

A Nudge and a Wink to “Our” Thugs

When leftist thugs fought in the streets, the police waded in and cracked down on them hard. Whenever proto-Nazis and Nazis did the same … they got a pass. When Nazis terrorized moderates or religious conservatives, they got slaps on the wrist. You know, the way the authorities let Antifa off today, after they take over campuses and terrorize faculty and silence speakers while wearing hoods and wielding weapons … with a stern warning and a covert pat on the back.

Okay, they’re technically breaking the law, but it’s in a good cause. They’re just trying to stop those wicked villains, who threaten our values. Let them smash a few heads, and burn a few books, wink-wink.

When Hitler actually tried to overthrow the government in the Beer Hall Putsch, under German law he deserved to be shot by a firing squad. Instead he got a couple of years in a comfy cell with plenty of visitors — and a typewriter. On which he wrote Mein Kampf. (In our country, retired Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers became merely the mentor of a president, Barack Obama.)

Bravely Damning the German Communists in 1934

German churches were fierce, bold, and uncompromising — in their condemnations of Communism. When Nazi thugs beat up communists as the police looked on and snickered, those pastors stood up bravely. To condemn the bloodied leftists, now languishing in prison. And hadn’t they broken the law?

Just so, today many pastors are taking a principled stand against white racists. Against people whose false and wicked views are enough to get them fired from almost any job in America. (Don’t worry, opponents of same-sex marriage and then of abortion are next.) Whose race and heritage are studied in school as if they were cultural forms of cholera. Whose country is changing radically around them, who learn from their own elites that they don’t deserve to be a majority anywhere on earth. Not even in Sweden.

Brendon O’ Neill has commented on this with his usual piercing insight:


 

If “Asianness” were being studied in school as a disease, and most Asian countries were under unremitting pressure from massive immigration and colonization, you might not be surprised to see some Asians overreact. Even grab onto nasty and false racist ideas about their own “superiority.” It would be wrong, but comprehensible. You should approach them with reason and charity, and try to talk them out of it. Point to universal values that transcend race and nation. Urge on them the spiritual unity of man, redeemed by the cross. Remind them that we’re all wayward children of a single set of parents.

But don’t wink at those who despise and pathologize people for their race … then expect them to hear the Gospel. And don’t be like this woman, who’s marching against political violence while wearing a t-shirt that … endorses political violence.

 

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  • Hmmm…

    Without doing the same research and study as the authors, it is clear to me that white nationals (aka white supremists, kkk) are a small, small faction with diminished activity and effect today. Good grief, this current venue was about a Confederate era statue to be removed. However, this Antifa group is springing up everywhere to stamp out this near non-functioning group and smear whomsoever they will with its stamp. One does not have to be studied or armed with stats to observe that it’s about control. The same goes for the Black Lives Matter movement, who went to violence immediately. One sees these are the haters and it is about getting there with your hate accusation first. That’s not hard, because their victims are genuinely put off by the charge, being so not involved in it. They gin the thing up so high, playing on any opening or trait or word or maybe even a sneeze at an opportune moment to bully in with their overbearing charges and indictments. In the political environment of today, they get away with far too much of it.

    • Carl Spackler, Jr.

      Paid for by Soros.

      • Epador

        Hmmm, now what police persuasion did he flourish in at an early age?

      • localhistorywriter

        And you have the cancelled check stubs to prove it, right?

  • localhistorywriter

    If people in Germany had reacted as the good people of Charlotville did this weekend, Nazism would never have survived. It’s a shame that you support it here in America.

    • Chip Crawford

      You mistake the matter. Nazism not supported here.

      • Myth Buster

        Sure it is.

        • Chip Crawford

          Your saying so confirms that it is not. After all, you are confused ….

          • Myth Buster

            No that’s an intelligent and direct to the point comeback. Wow! You must be a Trump supporter.

          • Chip Crawford

            You flatter yourself; likely the only one who will.

          • localhistorywriter

            Another brilliant comeback by another Trumpsucker. Wow! We are impressed.

      • localhistorywriter

        Not supported WHERE?

        • Myth Buster

          They just don’t condemn their behavior. This is the tap-dancing game they play now.

    • EWeatherwax

      You have misunderstood the author and the history. No one is supporting the white supremacists. However, it is Anifa, BLM and the rest of the far progressive left that is behaving as the Nazi’s in Germany did, and their leadership–the Democratic party–is behaving as the German leadership did: Ignoring or minimizing the violence they commit and endorsing the racial hatred they spew.

      • Zmirak

        Exactly!

    • retiredfire

      You have the groups reversed.
      The ones committing violence, with a wink and a nod by the police, were not the “white supremacists”.
      And to think that the anifa violence came from “the people of Charlottesville” is a grave disservice to the honest citizens thereof.

      • localhistorywriter

        I guess you would have supported Hitler against any uprising?

      • Myth Buster

        Sure they were. The Nazis and the KKK were the peaceful group. Sure they were…… sure…..

  • CbinJ

    Jason and John, never afraid to speak the hard truths. I think one of the best ways to react to the Charlottesville riots is to condemn “both sides” because they are all of one side: the anti-American fascist Left; Antifa and the White Supremacists are flip sides of the same coin. And while we are condemning the Leftists and their murderous, riotous, and racist ways, we need to condemn and protest their erasure of history by removing that Gen. Robert E. Lee statue this whole thing started over. The White Supremacists and Antifa all partake in the same ignorance regarding American history, and maybe that’s why they hate America so much. The Left is wrong all the time about everything.

  • Chip Crawford

    Yes, former President Obama responded about the strong countrywide protests (riots even) against Trump’s election win with, “Well, I wouldn’t want them to be quiet … ” He never condemned Black Lives Matters’ open rebellion against authority at their riots and advertised hatred and menace toward police officers. That’s just garden variety rebellion in manifestation. Hillary Clinton said well, we want the police to take care of us and look after our well-being, but … Their hesitation and sympathetic nods to the beginnings of rebellion against police opened the door to the disrespect of law enforcement that grew from there and has continued. They never called out the abuses or even issued cautions. Of course, the classic Clinton above-the-law pattern also reinforced the current defiance. These actions of these two leaders in their time need to be recalled as President Trump is taken to task for not calling out the white nationalists specifically. He is actually correct in saying many factions are to blame, which I hope the Justice Department investigation will reveal.

  • Patriot_ll

    How long did you think it would take before the antics of BLM and the antifa crowd got out of hand?

    • Mensa Member

      Was it a BLM activist who killed that fellow with his car?

      • Chip Crawford

        See what I mean? Don’t know about “that fellow” who got killed. There was a woman run down. And no, this is not BLM’s particular style, which is more like Antifa’s – brute beatings, loud bullying rants, etc.

        • localhistorywriter

          Does that make it OK in your mind?

      • Jerome Horwitz

        It was your mother.

        • John Connor

          What an awe inspiring comment! Jason or is it Matthew or both!!

      • Patriot_ll

        Actually it was a female who was killed. I’m saddened at that. I don’t condone violence. But I do stand by my comments that BLM and the antifa crowd do bring violence and some people have taken offense to it.

      • slick willie

        it well may have been—my understanding is the violence started when blm and the other fine citizens,(like the “staff” lady with the ‘punch more nazis” showed up. Yeah, I think you could say it was a blm activist that caused it.

        • localhistorywriter

          No it wasn’t. It was one of the neo-Nazi scum that Strumpf counts among his supporters. By your logic it was all those Jews’ fault for pissing off Hitler.

          • slick willie

            your “logic” about mine is flawed.
            are you a localhistory rewriter?

          • slick willie

            ps was there any scum on the other side?

  • Mensa Member

    It’s sad to see Christians make the moral equivalence argument.

    “Yes the Neo-Nazis are bad but some Jews are bad too! There is bad on all sides.”

    • Chip Crawford

      Oh no, there’s that pesky mosquito, carrying the disinformation, confusion virus over here now.

  • Chip Crawford

    There’s a report coming out of Seattle right now about a pro-Trump rally with Antifa gathering in response. The police have determined to keep the two groups apart. They have had to deal with the Antifa group to curb their attempts at violence, confiscating lovely things like boards with screws projected …

  • SophieA

    You guys make great points, in fact, awesome points, but I must question your history of West Virginia. This state broke away from Virginia precisely because of the slavery issue. It certainly is true that Northern people have skewed ideas about how all Southern people owned slaves. Heck, many college kids believe that every last American colonialist owned slaves. This is not at all true. Most did not. To impugn West Virginia as a slave state does a great disservice to the good men of women. Let’s endeavor not to repeat misconceptions.

    • Zmirak

      I was only referring to the misconception. Choosing West Virginia highlighted how stupid it is. Sorry, I assumed everyone knew about its anti-slavery history.

      • SophieA

        Until my daughter started teaching college, I thought everyone would have gotten your intended meaning also. It is an uphill battle to correct the ignorance and misinformation high school text books and liberal teachers have corrupted our college age students. As a result, I have no faith any longer in a shared understanding of our nation’s history. The re-writing of US history is scandalous. Even the small, obviously incorrect allusion you made as read by the wrong person could reinforce historical misconceptions.

  • tz1

    Most I’ve seen on the alt-right are really pro-life, or at least wish to outlaw aboriton.

    Did you say we should have NOT allied with Stalin to defeat Hitler? Please give your argument. You have the mirror that the Nazis arose in opposition. And we ignored the Holodomor as much as we are currently ignoring the Aboriton Holocaust.

    60 Million dead to date. Planned Parenthood is STILL FEDERALLY FUNDED!

    At which point will the innocent blood crying out for vengeance reach your ears with the silent screams daily – it is likely more babies were slaughtered and sold for parts in Virginia than were killed at Charlottesville by that driver – so you will take action, ally with whomever necessary, drop the silly “but they are on the social out-list” to stop the Abortion Holocaust.

    I think I know the answer. Never. Those already born and in no danger prefer their cushy jobs, to avoid ostracism, at least for going beyond the cuckservative index card of allowable opinion (h/t Tom Woods).

    • Zmirak

      Google “prolife temptation” on the Alt-Right journal Radix’s site. Chilling.

      • Paul

        First time I’ve seen a featured comment, something new around here?

  • Dean Bruckner

    How about let’s pass a law to shoot on sight any person wearing a mask in a violent demonstration or riot? It will save lives in the long run, because it will cut short the brownshirt tactics funded by George Soros and his demonic cabal.

  • Jim Walker

    Antifa = Paid rioters mostly. Most cover-up face fully with sunglasses wearing a black hoodie, many are scrawny looking. No message, just noise and chanting, bare faced ones will chant, cover faces are mostly quiet introverts.

    White Supremacists = think too highly of themselves. Bare faced, rough and tough looking. Message is, he is the greatest race on earth, but mostly low IQ.

    The combination of this 2 extremists on a street is like watching the movie Mad Max and you want each group to suffer Collateral Damage.

  • Jerome Horwitz

    Has anyone heard of “Unite The Right” or the protest before August 12?

    • localhistorywriter

      Well they have now — unfortunately.

    • Chris

      Yes. Knew it was happening for months. People in alt-right are emboldened and are already planning more rallies. Pissed that mayor and cops sabotaged the legal rally (same situation as berkely). One murder, but scores of Alt righters sustained injuries from antifa. Atleast one sent to ER. It wasn’t one sided, but politicians and media treated it that way. Especially considering one group had a permit to be there and one didn’t.

      • Paul

        Similar thing recently happened in Sacramento at the state capital.

        Our current culture, political climate and media bias is making it easier for these white nationalist types to find sympathetic ears.

  • Concerned Christian

    Just want to make sure that everyone understands that there is NO comparison to Antifa, BLMs, New Black Panthers etc. to white nationalist.

    White nationalist have endorsed Trump. None of the other groups have endorsed Obama or any other democratic group. None of those groups have a history of LEGALLY killing anyone.

    • Hmmm…

      Actually Antifa, Black Lives Matters and similar are more currently active and impacting on our current society than white supremacists. They are intrinsically worse. There are no large or fine points to draw concerning the difference. Their vicious hatred, lawless agenda and methods do not elevate them above anyone.

    • Andrew Mason

      Actually the BLM has killed people, including police officers. You can argue that those doing the killing are affiliates rather than nationally recognised members if you want, but that distinction won’t convince many folk. As for Antifa, while they may not have killed anyone yet, it’s only a matter of time. They are violent extremists who go looking for trouble but their anarchic cell structure means there’s no central authority to rein things in.

      As for the so called white nationalists, have they actually killed anyone? And who counts as a white nationalist? Seems like a category for the MSM to lump in anyone they don’t like, not just the wingnuts.

      • Myth Buster

        When you say “affiliates” would that be the same as saying someone in the KKK knew another person that was a member of the GOP that killed someone, so the GOP then by extension did the killing? I’m slightly confused by the use of “affiliates” to assert the BLM killed someone. It just seems like huge leaps of logic.

        • Chip Crawford

          You’ll do better when you stop trying to be confused (and confusing).

          • Myth Buster

            Now that’s a nice way to deflect.

          • Chip Crawford

            Thank you.

          • localhistorywriter

            No explanation — because there’s nothing to explain (and probably nothing between his ears either). The fascist’s position is clear from the content of his posts.

          • Chip Crawford

            Thought there was no content to my posts … You manage to discern that they are from a fascist position. It’s amazing … lolllllllll Accusing, lies, propaganda, all the stock speak of fascists, Nazis and the like you attempt to put on others.

        • Chip Crawford

          I get your M.O. – busting myths by creating new ones. I see; so will everyone else.

          • Myth Buster

            Actually, no! Great additional attempt to deflect. Since you’ve chosen to be his self-appointed attorney – explain the above person’s use of “affiliates” and why his logic couldn’t be flipped around and used against right wingers. Please, don’t play the deflection game. This is the time to show your real brains at work.

          • Chip Crawford

            Put a sock in it, troll. No one’s got time for your shtick. You came blaring in; now blare out.

          • Myth Buster

            That’s right call me the troll when all I’m asking is for you to explain yourself. Just can’t do it, can you?
            Great deflective game. I’d have more respect for you if you’d just run.

          • Chip Crawford

            You think more highly of yourself than you ought. Your so called “respect” has no worth. You are one who keeps asking for more information when you cannot answer clear charges against you or explain yourself.

          • Myth Buster

            Another deflection. Okay, what “clear charges” have been placed against me? This should be interesting. Please be specific.

          • localhistorywriter

            Are you a skinhead, a white supremacist, or a member of the KKK? Since when have you neo-fascists been concerned about anybody’s constitutional rights except your own.

          • Chip Crawford

            You are full of hate speech, ugly. You and your myth friend aren’t fit for nor truly interested in honest debate or conversation. Since you have shown yourself to be accusers and haters and thus unfit for civil discourse, I guard my soul against your spew.

        • Andrew Mason

          No by affiliate I mean a person that associates with the BLM but is not recognised as a dues paying member etc. To use your GOP example, a person that attended their meetings, was perhaps accepted as part of the community, but was not a paid member would be a GOP affiliate not a GOP member. Clear? Okay since the BLM don’t have paid membership it gets fuzzier, but hopefully you get the idea.

          • Myth Buster

            I see. So if a Republican “associates” with the Alt-Right or is connected (your words above) to get their votes then by extension they’d be responsible for their actions. Thanks!

          • Andrew Mason

            You seem to have your logic inverted. If the Republican associated with the Alt-Right did something then you could point at the Alt-Right connection. By contrast if the Alt-Right does something you can point at their connection to the lone Republican associated with them, but not Republicans as a whole. Interesting that you focus on Republicans and the Alt-Right though. Why not consider James Hodgkinson’s connection to Bernie Sanders? That would give you a concrete incident to discuss.

          • Myth Buster

            The problem with our discussion is your initial comment: “Actually the BLM has killed people, including police officers. You can argue that those doing the killing are affiliates rather than nationally recognised members if you want, but that distinction won’t convince many folk.” You seem to have a loose usage of the word “affiliates” that only works one way and not in another, just to make a talking point. It needs to also work that way between to the Atl-Right and the GOP to be a valid point. That would be asinine to demand that one or shift that responsibility onto one organization and not accept it or shun it for another.

            What is deemed logical in one sense, needs to be logical in another to have validity and consistency. Plus, this overlooks the FACT huge organizations can not be responsible for the wrong doings of one of their lone-wolf members, unless that organization has a long history of supporting violence or it’s part of their ideology. Again, the issue is consistency!

          • Andrew Mason

            Actually I support consistency, the issue is tracking down the facts that support it. I was under the impression that the Dallas shooter for instance was a BLM member, but rereading a quick bit of info suggests he was an unconnected ‘sympathiser’. The Hodgkinson-Sanders link for instance was tighter, and yet as far as I’m aware nobody is saying it was Sander’s man that did the shooting.

            I agree organisations may not be responsible for lone wolf members – the psychotic Charlottesville driver is a good example of this, assuming of course that the investigation doesn’t reveal it to all be a horrific accident. Journalists frequently don’t let facts get in the way of their slant though.

          • Myth Buster

            This is true and thanks for your comment. Sadly, one now had to watch where they get there information and then the words used when these stories are reported. In this case the word “associated” was used in a deceptive manner to imply something that wasn’t true.

          • Andrew Mason

            You’re probably stretching my point further than I intend. The incident I recall most vividly of a BLMer killing cops is inaccurate as I’ve noted above. That does not mean that there are not other instances of BLM violence, or deplorable conduct, merely that I’m not rushing to track them down. As for associated, it wasn’t that I used the term deceptively it was that the facts didn’t accord with what I vaguely recalled. You can say something untrue without it being deceptive. It’s called being wrong 🙂

          • Myth Buster

            Sorry, no offense intended.

          • Andrew Mason

            No harm no foul 🙂

      • Concerned Christian

        can you send me a link to anyone that BLM has killed?

        here are some examples of white extremist:

        Shayan Mazroei
        Srinivas Kuchibhotla
        Taliesin Myrddin Namkai-Meche
        Ricky John Best

        • Concerned Christian

          forgot to add the nine church members killed in SC.

        • Andrew Mason

          Those killed by the BLM, or those connected with the BLM who’ve killed? Note white extremism would be better equated with black extremism than one element with it. And while I had to look up the names you mentioned, the last 2 were killed by an individual whose mental stability seems to be in doubt.

          • Concerned Christian

            I feel i was tricked. to take a step back. BLM is not an extremist group. They are protesting unarmed blacks getting shot by the police.

          • Andrew Mason

            No they are a Black supremacy group who deem non-Blacks second class citizens who should only speak when given permission, and stay at the rear of the bus. They are simply a variation on the KKK. And no they don’t simply protest unarmed Blacks getting shot by police.

          • Concerned Christian

            please give me any information you have where that is remotely close to reality!

            i can look at BLM rallies and see blacks, whites, hispanics, etc.

          • Kelly B

            Tell me, what color is the sky on your planet?

          • Andrew Mason

            Try Khogali the co-founder of Toronto’s BLM who has argued that Whites aren’t human. Or try a Nashville sign which said that the meeting place had been changed, but that the meeting was only open to non-Whites. Another article, but not the one I was looking for, noted that in Philadelphia during the Democratic National Convention a protest organiser was saying “White people to the back! Black people to the front!” as well as “White media get to the back … We are not afraid to put people out.” It’s really no different to the Jim Crow approach.

            Also, as for looking at BLM rallies and seeing Blacks, White, Hispanics etc, how? Just because a person has skin that is black, white, yellow, red, green, blue, or any other natural or unnatural shade or colour, doesn’t mean they identify as that colour. From what I can tell there are very few people that don’t have black skin involved, but it’s quite possible they are simply Rachel Dolezal variants.

            This isn’t all the information out there obvious but the BLM isn’t of any more interest to me than the KKK, though they are in the news.

          • rnsr4Trump

            They started that way but they are not that way today -they are simply violent. Originally they were cop-watchers- lost that focus years back. Sad but true it’s not what you think today.

          • Concerned Christian

            please give me any information you have where that is remotely close to reality?

    • Deborah Horvath Rowden

      Do you actually believe that??

    • CbinJ

      No, BLM didn’t endorse Obama, he just invited them to the White House. Unlike, Trump whose political history boils down to hobnobbing with politicians of all stripes and allegedly paying off corrupt Democrats to develop real estate efficiently, Obama was raised up by Communists, befriend domestic terrorists, and informed by racist preachers. Anybody can endorse anybody, but there is no history of a racist ideology behind Trump’s statements or actions. I personally condemn both sides because NeoNazis and Antifa/ BLM are anti-American fascistic brethren. You would do well to do the same. Leftism is Leftism::Evil is evil.

      • rnsr4Trump

        Exactly l!

    • Jim Walker

      CC, So by your logic, if a gay expresses his love for me, am I considered gay also ?

      • Concerned Christian

        Well, here’s my logic.

        let’s say you’re married and another woman expresses love for you. She constantly criticizes and belittles your wife to others. Now, if you don’t openly and unequivocally denounce this woman’s action, your wife and everyone else will assume that you have feelings for this woman.

        • Jim Walker

          I can’t stop anyone from loving me and if that person keeps harassing my wife, I will stand up for her of course.
          Unless I’m always been seen together with this woman intimately, I couldn’t care less what she spews as long as my wife trusts me.
          CC, you are stretching this way too much.

          • Concerned Christian

            well you used the example of a gay loving you doesn’t mean that you’re gay. This to me implied that because the KKK likes Trump doesn’t mean that Trump is a racist.

            My point is that it does mean he’s a racist if he doesn’t strongly denounce them the same as it would prove to your wife that you have feelings for another woman if you didn’t strongly denounce the other woman.

          • Mark Chance

            The Left in the U.S. encourages and financially supports via the threat of government force the killing of thousands every day.

          • Concerned Christian

            example?

          • Kelly B

            Why would a republican have to renounce a democratic institution like the KKK? NOBODY endorses the KKK – and if you claim to not believe that, you’re either lying or blinded by hate…

    • rnsr4Trump

      Not true. Antifa is worse if you read the articles because they’re being allowed to riot. Also it is obamas army of resistance.

      • Concerned Christian

        as far as i know rioting is illegal. If that’s the case, you should be mad at the police for not arresting them.

        But let me get this straight, Antifa, is Obama’s army of resistance although they have never endorsed him.

        But Trump is not a racist although racist have clearly endorsed him?

        Conservatives are always making up bogey man groups to legitimize their own actions!

        There are NO GROUPS in the history of the modern world more responsible for the death, destruction and misery that’s been implemented by the KKK & Nazis. Not just against blacks but humanity!

        We’re not talking about rioting, we’re talking using the law of the land to enslave, beat, and murder millions!

        • Kelly B

          “There are NO GROUPS in the history of the modern world more responsible for the death, destruction and misery that’s been implemented by the KKK & Nazis.”

          Uuummm… Dude – You couldn’t be more wrong about that. Communist’s favorite Chairman Mao’s Great Leap Forward caused more deaths than all other evils COMBINED. Over 45 million Chinese peasants were murdered – if not from starvation (as if that weren’t bad enough), but, God help the starving 7 year old boy who would dig up a potato – he’d be tortured to death, or have his father forced to bury him alive (dad then died of heart-break a week later).

          Not to mention Pol Pot’s Kmher rouge and the killing fields..

          Both countries are STILL under the heavy boot of Communism – God help them…

  • tearfang

    //That’s what happens when the authorities giving orders to the police pick and choose which side gets to break the law.
    That’s how Germany in the 1920s and 30s descended into chaos, then welcomed tyranny. We stumble down that same road when police and other authorities allow either side to use violence to intimidate or silence people.//

    Interesting claim, but citation needed. Any sources?

  • John Trenter

    There is plenty of blame to go around on this one, but the libs really believe Pres. Trump should arbitrate and monitor every single free speech assembly in America?? How about if we agree he can nominate a few people of his choice and maybe arbitrarily defund PP and all other genocidists in our own nation? Even the libs who talk nice words about rights and freedom won’t even let some great pro-lifers anymore in their own party!! But hey, hush on this and let the hypocrites and baby murderers kill their own party! They are dying a natural death anyway but perhaps political euthanasia might be the only place that word fits for them! As an aside, who all lied about leaving this country if Trump was elected. keep your promises, liars and hypocrites!!!

  • daisy

    One group of paid to protest violent morons descended on Charlottesville. Another group of I suspect, paid to protest and cause trouble loser morons also descended on Charlotttesville. That’s not a stain on America. That’s John Q. Public being suckered again.

  • jbk

    I don’t believe in white supremacy but I am beginning to sympathize with pro-white groups. Being a white male, I feel as if society is saying that I, along with other white, heterosexual males, are responsible for all of society’s ills. And don’t forget, make sure you keep paying the lions share of tax revenue so we can implement all these programs which are contrary to so many of you. It not surprising that this kind of backlash is growing.

    • Mr. M

      “I don’t believe in white supremacy, but I believe blacks and LGBTs are making society bad!” – days after white supremacist mows down people with his car, killing one.

  • Dugald Galley

    As I understand it your argument is that it is braver to speak out against those evils that are less noticed (or ignored) by the current Zeitgeist and the “liberal elite”. I guess it’s just fortunate for us that those evils are the evils which we find most distrssing and offensive – the evils we most enjoy criticising.
    But as far as I can tell Jesus didn’t give out prizes for concentrating on the other group’s flaws. While it’s always satisfying to comment on the gigantic mote in the other’s eye perhaps the really brave thing is to address the political beams in our own eyes first.

  • rnsr4Trump

    This site is flipping amazing!!! So well articulated and historically accurate. Thank You! Hope more read these articles!!

  • benevolus

    I think we are slipping inexorably into civil war, ending with a breakup of the United States. Years ago (and yes, during points of our history, this will seem a very naive viewpoint), most of the time we pretty much all agreed on what the common good was, and argued over which political parties (which were stronger then) had the better answers. We had vigorous political arguments, but most people thought their neighbors who voted the other way were just wrong, not evil and a danger to the republic. This has changed radically, as seen in numerous opinion polls. Not only that, we are increasingly self-segregating, liberals to some communities and even whole states, and conservatives to others. It happens by occupation, too. It has gotten to the point that the partisans on each side not only don’t converse with each other, they have no desire to interact with one another at all. Millions of Trump voters don’t even know anyone who voted for Clinton, and vice-versa. This is not going to get any better. Christians see the Left as wicked people who call good evil, and evil good. Liberals see Christians as harmful bigots who want to impose the values of what they derisively term “a bronze-age book” on everybody else by force. This is not going to change. The nation is divided against itself, and cannot stand much longer.

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