4th Sting Video: Planned Parenthood Doctor Discusses Fetuses Born Alive, Avoiding Legal Consequences
The Planned Parenthood exec discusses elicit pricing of fetal body parts, dissects aborted babies for parts and talks about some being born alive.
For the second time in a week, the Center for Medical Progress has a new video up featuring undercover footage inside Planned Parenthood.
The newest video takes place at a Planned Parenthood mega-clinic and includes footage of Dr. Savita Ginde warning, “If you have someone doing this [tissue procurement] for you in an anti-state, they’re probably going to get caught.”
It sounds like an admission of guilt.
The setup is a meeting with Dr. Ginde, Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains’ Vice President and Medical Director. Her Planned Parenthood affiliate does over 10,000 abortions a year and has a contract to supply fetal body parts to Colorado State University.
“But you want mostly over 14s?” she asks the tissue buyer, referring to the children by their gestational age of 14 weeks.
The smoking gun in this video is this statement by Ginde:
Sometimes, if we get, if someone delivers before we get to see them for a procedure, then we are intact.
“Delivers before” means these children are potentially born-alive infants. According to the Center for Medical Progress:
Since PPRM does not use digoxin or other feticide in its 2nd trimester procedures, any intact deliveries before an abortion are potentially born-alive infants under federal law (1 USC 8).
“I know I’ve seen livers, I’ve seen stomachs, I’ve seen plenty of neural tissue. Usually you can see the whole brain come out,” Ginde explains, as the buyer asks about the possibility of procuring human thymus.
The conversation features a back-and-forth with Dr. Ginde and the buyers on how to handle the legal issues of selling these baby body parts, and Ginde mentions talking to “Deb,” who readers may remember as Dr. Deborah Nucatola from the first CMP video.
Ginde also suggests ways for Planned Parenthood to cover up its sale of aborted body parts. “Putting it under ‘research’ gives us a little bit of an overhang over the whole thing,” Ginde remarks. “If you have someone in a really anti state who’s going to be doing this for you, they’re probably going to get caught.”
At one point Ginde seems to suggest that PPRM’s lawyer, Kevin Paul, is helping the affiliate skirt the fetal tissue law: “He’s got it figured out that he knows that even if, because we talked to him in the beginning, you know, we were like, ‘We don’t want to get called on,’ you know, ‘selling fetal parts across states.’” The buyers ask, “And you feel confident that they’re building those layers?” to which Ginde replies, “I’m confident that our Legal will make sure we’re not put in that situation.”
The video also features footage inside the lab. It is hard to watch, and many readers will find it disturbing. At one point, there’s a cracking sound of an aborted fetus’s skull, and Dr. Ginde says, “It’s a baby,” as she points out the heart and kidneys and explains that a per-item pricing system is best for them.
Dr. Ginde and her medical assistants pull out tiny eyeballs, heart, kidneys, stomach and identify the child at the end as “another boy!”