Will Trump Liberate Christians from Obama’s Lawless Legacy?

By Maggie Gallagher Published on February 2, 2017

With the nomination of Judge Neil Gorsuch, Trump has fulfilled one of his central campaign promises, which 1 in 5 voters said was the most important issue: appoint Scalia-like judges to the Supreme Court.

Skeptics like me were wrong on this. Trump’s judicial appointment is a cause for celebration, and it will pay dividends for generations to come.

Obama decisions still stand that threaten the liberties of traditional religious believers with federal lawsuits that could cripple church institutions.

What we don’t know yet is whether Trump will use his power to overturn key Obama decisions that threaten the liberties of traditional religious believers with federal lawsuits that could cripple church institutions. The signs this week were troubling: the mere rumor that Trump was considering signing an executive order on religious liberty produced an LGBT backlash large enough the Trump administration felt obliged to announce it would not repeal Pres. Obama’s executive order adding Gender Identity to the list of protected characteristics for the federal government and contractors who do business with it. (The original executive order banning sexual orientation discrimination was issued by Pres. Clinton and not revoked by Pres. Bush.)

“President Donald J. Trump is determined to protect the rights of all Americans, including the LGBTQ community,” the White House said in a statement. “The executive order signed in 2014, which protects employees from anti-LGBTQ workplace discrimination while working for federal contractors, will remain intact.”

Rewriting the Civil Rights Act by Presidential Whim to Threaten Christians

Worse than this executive order was Obama’s decision to stack the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission with commissioners supporting the radical position that the Civil Rights Act’s ban on sex discrimination actually includes sexual orientation and gender identity — a novel theory which Eric Holder announced on Dec. 18, 2014, retroactively reading into that 1964 law the latest trends in liberal social activism.

This creative interpretation of law bypassed for Democrats the need to actually pass federal LGBT protections in Congress — which to pass, would have to include substantive religious liberty protections. Since gay activists oppose such protections, they rely instead on Obama’s executive end-run around Congress. Will Trump will leave that end-run in place? Believers need to know.

Already a Catholic school in Georgia has been told by the EEOC that it may not fire a teacher for entering a gay marriage.  If “informal” means of conciliation were not successful, the EEOC threatened to sue the school or issue a “right to sue” letter to the plaintiff. The school settled, rather than fight, helping the EEOC establish legal precedents for use in the future.

The Obama administration extended its law-bending theory to every federal law banning sex discrimination in housing and education, leading it to warn public schools that they may lose federal funding if they fail to permit biological males who identify as female to shower with girls. Eleven states have challenged that ruling. One of Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ first tests, if he is confirmed, is to repudiate in court Obama’s novel legal theories and restore each state’s right to make decisions on how to reconcile protecting transgender students and the ordinary privacy rights of girls.

How can Pres. Trump respond? Two important positions on the EEOC are now vacant: general counsel and one commissioner. A second commissioner’s term ends in July 2017.  These are appointments of grave importance to the future of religious liberty in the United States.

We need several new jurists of the Neil Gorsuch stamp to be appointed as general counsel and EEOC commissioner. Personnel is politics, and whom Pres. Trump appoints to these key positions is far more important than most believers recognize. The 1964 Civil Rights Act which gave birth to the EEOC does not speak to sexual orientation discrimination but it does guarantee religious liberty.

Secondly, the Trump Justice Department can reverse the position Obama’s team is taking in pending litigation that laws designed to protect women against sex discrimination are now weapons that can be wielded by the LGBT activists against Christian charities, schools, universities, and ministries, as well as public schools.

Bottom line: If the Trump administration is unwilling to take the heat that will come from restoring the EEOC and the 1964 Civil Rights Act to their original mission, believers are in trouble. Those with influence within the administration need to call attention to these important steps.

 

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  • Tom Rath

    Don’t forget that Trump once said he would support adding sexual orientation as a protected class under the CRA.

    • Gary

      That would be immoral, and unconstitutional.

      • stan schmunk

        Not unconstitutional. Have you read it lately?

        • Sharon

          yes we have.. and as I said to you before. those poor men who worked so hard and prayed fervently as they wrote the words of the greatest documents for human freedom ever made …they would be beyond HORRIFIED to know that it was being abused to allow disgusting depravity to overtake this country. IT WOULD MAKE THEM SICK! and it makes all of us out here who Love the LORD sick as well. We know what it means for the future of our nation.

          • stan schmunk

            They might but that doesn’t matter. The words of the Constitution matter. Our nation was founded on the production of tobacco and alcohol, both of which required slaves from Africa. Rice, cotton, etc. greatly expanded that need and the slave owners in the Bible Belt started a war to the death to maintain and expand it and used Scripture to justify it. The Constitution contains NO mention of God, NO mention of Christ, NO mention of the Bible and NO mention of God’s Law.

          • Sharon

            buddy let me tell you something. I am the decendent of quite a number of CIVIL war soldiers NOT ONE OF WHOME OWNED A SLAVE! they did NOT fight for slavery. They fought for their Own survivial! They were told that they must fight if they did not want the Federal Govt. The YANKEES coming and taking all they owned. I know all of this I am telling you from a life time of study of that war and from the luck of having their personal letters during and after the war! Their greatest fears came true as you see the liberals of that time were Northern and suddenly they had no need for slaves anymore as the North became industrialized and the South being verdant and pentiful was left with the task of FEEDING the country as well as keeping them in cotton for clothing etc.. When you tell people that they will no longer be able to do this using their labor.. even though slavery was on its way out. they rightfully got their backs up. They could not just STOP on a dime and things go smoothly AT ALL . AND furthermore the YANKEES not only totally destroyed the South having killed and maimed so many of them JUST FOR WANTING to be FREE of an already over reaching fed.! They came after the war and took everything. They stole and they were very CRUEL during long years of martial law in many places! The HATE of today is beginning to be equal to the hatred back then as Yankees laughed and encouraged blacks to do thing to whites like pushing ladies into the dung filled muddy streets.. and other far worse things. THIS gave birth to the Klan. SELF DEFENSE where no justice was available. It was not thought a sin to have slaves. The Bible does not say it is such. So it is not up to us to judge those folks of that time. I just thought I would throw that in. AND You might consider that God often sends people who have turned away from him into decadence and deviant sin etc.. into slavery or some such to bring them back to him. Africa was taught the Gospel long ago when the apostles still walked the earth and yet in the eighteen hundreds they were still walking around buck naked. something God made clear not to do way back in the Garden of Eden. They had many wives and in short worshiped many false Gods.. Their civilization was not at ALL Christian in any way and this may have been HIS way of bringing them back to HIM. back to where we were. My own relatives.. came home from fighting half dead near starved bare foot and broken. to find that a Yankee judge had given all thei r land and holdings to a black woman just for kicks. That was the way things WERE in AMERICA! at the hands of the kind of people that are the LEFT WING TODAY! FACSISTS! CRUEL EVIL PEOPLE! BUT WE SURVIVED AND THRIVED IN SPITE OF THEM! As to GOD he is mentioned by those men in EVERY way all the time and in many of our documents of state. YOU need to realize that WITHOUT GOD WE HAVE NO HOPE AND WE ARE NOTHING! WHy can you people not see that? you are taking us down. just like ROME from the INSIDE for doing things that are beyond DISGUSTING~!

          • stan schmunk

            I know all of the SCV pat answers but I’ve studied it from all sides for many years focusing on original documents from all sides and almost of what you said is false. BTW, are you a Republican?

          • Sharon

            it IS NOT False IT IS WHAT THE COMMON MAN WENT THRU!~ AND i DAMN WELL KNOW IT! APPARENTLY YOU ARE NOT A SOUTHERNER AND DON’T REALIZE THAT THE WINNERS ALWAYS BIAS WRITE THE HISTORY. this is the truth not only from history but from word of mouth thru family down thru the years and thru letters and diaries. so don’t you DARE tell me it is false . it was THEIR REALITY! you know human nature and you know I AM RIGHT! about how they were treated. you see how the left acts today and you know the violence we have been seeing build up in the VERY same kind of people that did it back then~!.. folks that don’t like not getting their way when they say do it NOW! well it is about to blow up in their face and this time we won’t make the same mistakes. Besides.. the lefties hate guns.. and we bought kabillions of them during obama’s threats to take them away if he could and boy did he try!. he said that was his biggest regret.,. YEAH I’ll just bet it was! and BTW are you a democrat?

          • stan schmunk

            I’ve been Independent since 1968. You seem to be defending the southern Democrats. I see southern Republicans doing that all the time and find it quite baffling. You continue to prove that you’re a racist. And I wonder if you’re actually a Christian looking at your last comments.

          • Spectrum

            Sharon, I agree with all you said about morality and the LGBT issues. However, on the civil war and slavery you are wrong. There is absolutely no justification for defending or rationalising the evil of slavery, which is what you are attempting to do. The war was about slavery. The majority of historians and experts will confirm that. Even the south’s most well known and respected historian – John Shelby Foote – admitted this.The only ones who reject this truth are the racists and those that twist scripture to justify the perpetuation of it at the time. Please don’t include yourself in their shameful company.

          • Sharon

            no i am not justifying slavery nor am I rationalizing it I am telling you that the common man was fighting a whole different war than the rich slaver owners.. He was fighting for his very life and all he owned as well as his family. He had been told and believed that they were coming to take it all! In the end He was right because that is exactly what they did ! You better believe it. They cleaned the SOUTH OUT!~ they took the land.. they laid waste to what they could not put in their pockets. So when you wonder with such inferior numbers why we almost beat you with bravery off the charts the brought tears to the eyes of the yanks! and the kind of fighting you only do when you are fighting for your own sake.. is because of what they were told and believed. They could have cared less about blacks they didn’t own nor saw much of. These men and women owned some land and they worked sun up to sun down on that place Spec… so please don’t tell me what I am defending. I know from how they talked, what they said .. I was stunned to find that they literally thought that it was kill or be killed. Take or be taken. They even wrote that the plight of the slaves was out of their hands. They had no right to tell a rich man what to do. This was because in those times. Rich people just like now. had most all of the power. You have read Northerners accounts and you have read General accounts and worse we all saw the garbage that came out of Hollywood during Obama’s time. Movies showing every single southerner to be a soulless monster when the truth was. the cruel master was a rarity.. and one who was socially ostracized in the Southern Way if work got out he was an abuser of his slaves. They had their ways.. of correcting behaviors amongst themselves. But I say again. I am justifying nothing whatsoever. I simply say we have a right to our heritage. and to our pride because they survived hell on earth doled out to them by their own.. until years went by and the hate died down a bit.. and the Yankees went home.. But the way it was all handled .. was atrocious and not at all what Lincoln had planned.. He wanted brothers to be brothers once again to mend the rift.. to grieve again as one.. to forgive each other. What Boothe did was doom the South to brutal years of revenge for the lives lost and for the life of a President .. all while the South was mourning even more loss…. it was a terrible time. I am not sure Lincoln did right to hold it together by force. Look at it now. It is hanging by threads. There are always far more stories than the ones you think are all there is.. You see once I started digging into the personal letters. it opened up a whole new world that historians don’t always reveal because they are busy getting the chronology and names and locations right .. they often lump the causes and thoughts together as if everybody was of one mind. They were not. just like today when we are once again so very close to physical blows on a large scale in this country.. it appears that there will be all kinds of factions. some wanting this some wanting that. do you think it was any different then? Don’t you see how a poor man would want and fight for something completely different than what a rich man would? The poor man does not throw himself into the maw with that kind of gusto for the same of someone Else’s property. No he does it because he is under wht he believes is severe threat! And how could he think anything else when his own President has brought a standing Army against him!

          • Sharon

            I recently had a kind of different and new thought about the specific slavery of Africans that took place in those last centuries of slavery in the almost all of the world. And it is this. God still moves and works in this world. Not as HUGELY if you will as in the Old Testament but answers to prayers and placing leaders over our nations as it says He does. Also I think sending warnings to nations using those leaders such as I truly believe obama was just such a warning. And then answering heartfelt fervent prayers all over this nation and even in the world in places like Iraq among Christians that Hillary PLEASE not win. that we be spared that final blow to America as she was meant to be. God gave us a rough man.. but God has ALWAYS used very flawed people to do His greatest Tasks. Think about that.. remember what King David did? But God Loved him dearly and he forgave him although David paid dearly on earth for his crime and sin. So also did ALL of Israel pay for his sin. His children paid too one with his life. God often also used to send the Israelite’s as well as other peoples down thru time I think into slavery to shake them into their senses. When they had fallen so far from Him and worshiped idols and sacrificed children. When they did depraved and deviant things rather than obey Gods commands. He allowed them to be overtaken. Their whole civilization gone.. destroyed! Time after time this has taken place. Think about how people see things today. OH THOSE EVIL SPANIARDS who came and colonized Mexico and South America. Well what were those people doing . the Aztecs? what had they been doing for some time? they had a monstrous blood cult that had been growing for many years.. heads by the thousands rolled down the steps of the pyramids while the crowds called out for more. nightly disgusting bloody murders of their young people for no reason that makes sense.. but supposedly to their gods. and God put an end to them. Only now are they once more gathering strength as the people taking over this nation.. because guess what WE are now the ones gone filthy with evil and child murder (abortion) but I DIGRESS BADLY. Africa in that time was the one of the few places that people didn’t seem to know better than to run around naked. Now people had been told in the GARDEN Of Eden for Pete;s sake to cover themselves up.. when Adam and Eve did so with leaves God said .. not enough and made them Fur Clothing. So there is no excuse for these people. They worship false idols even though long LONG ago the Bible tells us the gospel reached Africa. So they had the TRUTH. they simply went away from it and back to something primitive. They had many wives. and we don’t know what all but thru slavery which once again may have been the hand of God having had enough.. they came to America and even thought they went thru what the Isrealites and all other slaves have gone thru they also were taught the Gospel and that means they have hope for eternity that would never have been theirs in Africa. This caused my head to explode LOL.. J/k.. but it was an eye opener. We have always long known that all the greats.. even ROME! went down from ROT INSIDE out! losing all because of having used abundance to become something rotten with evil and God says.. no more. why would Africans be any exception? Same thing ? right? God uses whom ever to be the slavers. Perhaps that is why it never really forbids slavery in the Bible. Instead it commands the master and the slave to be very good to one another … Interesting.. least I think so.. I also think I think too much..

          • Sharon

            I will tell you something else as well. this country was built on FAR more sweat and blood than just black folks.. though they would have you believe it was ALL them. MANY is the white man who died from working himself to death to create what we have today. MANY MORE are the white men who gave their lives to keep us free! AND in fact THOUSANDS died to make blacks free although they are the most ungrateful bunch of freed slaves you ever saw in your life. as are their descendants who can look to Africa to see what life COULD have been like and found that they just really do not want to go back there. Wonder why? Obama and Michelle fomented hatred in their hearts for EIGHT years always niggling with the slavery and the jim crow long past and not necessary to ram home all the time but that is what they did .. and it bore evil fruit and all over America blacks began to do to today’s innocent whites what whites back then SOMETIMES did to some blacks whether for a crime committed or not. So now we are a nation divided because all of a sudden a bunch of SJW’s that are white came running out to defend blacks against racism that was not there but picked US as the ones doing it when we had done nothing! SICK MESS~!
            all on Obama

          • stan schmunk

            All you’ve proved is that you’re a racist.

  • Clark

    It’s amazing to me that Maggie thinks hers is the only religion, that gay people and those who don’t hate them aren’t religious, or that practicing her religion includes the right to discriminate against gay people. Maggie has created an entire career around opposing the rights of gay people to simply exist and be free from harassment. How sad that career is.

    • Gary

      Christianity requires Christians to discriminate against lgbtq. But, you don’t have to be a Christian if you don’t want to.

      • stan schmunk

        Scripture doesn’t require anything of the sort in the NT. But the OT requires homosexuals and adulterers to be stoned to death. Is that what you believe?

        • Sharon

          in the New Testament Christ comes and dies for all our sins and requires us to HEAR the WORD.. BELIEVE the WORD REPENT Of past sins.. be IMMERSED in Baptism.. and rise to LIVE A NEW LIFE IN JESUS.. in other words you STOP doing the things that willl separate you from Christ for eternity. One of those things it makes it CRYSTAL CLEAR is homosexuality. in the OT God was hands on.. and did indeed command them to be stoned. that alone should tell you how God feels about both of those things.

      • Sharon

        it is not discrimination to say I cannot take part in what you are doing. That is about our OWN SOUL. they are free to go to any number of places who will cheerfully do as they ask. in spite of God’s commands.. BUT WE CANNOT> it is not about discrimination. Do FORCE us to do wrong is NOT what America is about but it WAS the delight of obama who it is said many times is actually gay… caught in gay messes that were covered up by killing several of those he had sex with while a senator. He was a bad evil traitor to this country and did irreparably harm. Can you even imagine what God wil say to this man who lit up the White House to celebrate the degradation of Marriage by allowing homosexuals to take part in that holy rite. AND he used the RAINBOW which homo’s have stolen from GOD who gave that to mankind to promise never to destroy the earth by water again. wow.. WHAT UTTER GALL! guess what Obama’s future is after death? He literally MOCKED GOD and Christians the whole time he was in office.

        • stan schmunk

          Except for the issue of the rainbow your charges against Obama are false and a great sin against God. Would you allow me to show you the Scriptures?

      • Spectrum

        It doesn’t equal being phobic, either. Disgustic yes, but not phobic.

    • Irene Neuner

      Clark as a Christian mother I need to be free to keep my children away from people who defy natural and supernatural law.

    • Jeannie

      Clark, Catholicism does not discriminate against gay people. Catholicism embraces all peoples as we are made in the image of God. People who refer to themselves as “Gay People” have chosen to identify themselves as people who engage in a life style/behavior that defies God.
      I resent that the children in California are being forced by the educational system to view this behavior as moral and acceptable. As a nurse who worked in the beginnings of the Aids movement in S.F. ,when it was just being diagnosed, I saw first hand what a DEAD END lifestyle it was. In fact, I have seen many deaths in my career and those young men who died of Aids were the worst. JOSEPH SCIAMBRA is someone you might want to check out.

      • iprazhm

        That’s because Catholicism does not follow the teachings of Christ and is not Christian. Catholics worship Mary and confess their sins to a priest. The opposite of Christ’s teachings.

        • Jeannie

          Catholics don’t worship Mary. You might want to read about what Catholicism is.

          • iprazhm

            They pray to Mary. The definition of worshiping a deity is praying to them. There’s a reason you don’t pray to your mailman or your tax collector. They are not seen as deities.

          • Jeannie

            Mary is the Mother of Jesus Christ. She intercedes on our behalf to Him as any mother does to a father for a child.

          • iprazhm

            That’s not in the bible, anywhere. It’s something Catholics added. We are given fair warning to neither add nor take away from the words of the book;

            “Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.” Deuteronomy 4:2

            “And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” Revelation 22:19

            “Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Don’t add to His words, or He will rebuke you, and you will be proved a liar.” Proverbs 30:5,6

          • stan schmunk

            Not true by any means. The Scripture teaches the opposite.

          • Sharon

            but that is just it. that is not biblical in any way at all. JESUS Is the intercession.. the HOLY GHOST too. but not Mary. YOU Catholics are not following scripture but mans’ ideas.. Mary is precious.. she was chosen for her purity and I am sure her sweetness. but she is not someone that God said to pray to at ALL! to do so is to waste your time. She was a vessel. READ your Bible PLEASE and you will find many things that man has taught to be true to catholics that are even forbidden in the Bible and certainly are not what God commanded. Souls are at stake if you don’t find the Church Jesus called his bride.

          • Spectrum

            There are many errors and unbiblical practices and rituals in the catholic church. You would be horrified to know also of the sordid and bloody history of the popes and catholicism. So much so, that the catholic church launched Inquisitions / persecutions of all those who refused to follow the doctrines of it. That’s what led to the schism ( split ) in Christianity, and the resultant Reformation. The popes and catholicism have blood on their hands and have much to answer for to God for their sins.It is a false religion. I recommend you exit it.

    • iprazhm

      The god of sodomites is satan. The holy bible says that homosexuality is an abomination to God.
      A-B-O-M-I-N-A-T-I-O-N = a thing that causes disgust or hatred. synonyms: atrocity, disgrace, horror, obscenity, outrage, evil, crime, monstrosity, anathema, bane
      a feeling of hatred. synonyms: detestation, loathing, hatred, aversion, antipathy, revulsion, repugnance, abhorrence, odium, execration, disgust, horror, hostility

      • stan schmunk

        The Bible and God’s Law have no standing in our Constitution. Read it sometime.

        • Sharon

          oh but they do! Those men were devout Christians. They never THOUGHT that you would twist their words to mean NO GOD . all they wanted was no persecution by one religion .. Catholic. They most CERTAINLY did not ever DREAM that the freedom they wrought would end up being so HORRIBLY and sinfully abused! Slaughtering babies! by the millions! and Gay Pride parades right out in the open .. the SHAME of that is enough to strike those men dead if they saw what you people have done to our country. The depth of depravity that living opposite of the Bible and GODS LAW> the ONLY WAY a country survives is when they FOLLOW the LORD! HE promises that if a nation returns to HIM HE will see that and heal their wounds and bring them to prosperity. SO you go on with your idea that they never meant for GOD to be front and center.. and see where it gets us.. you can already see the depravity and decadence that has destroyed every civilization. God does not let evil stand for long. You are truly taking this country down… with attitude like that. Those men would be horrified to hear you say what you did.

          • stan schmunk

            I’m not taking anything down. I’m a conservative evangelical who firmly believes the Scriptures. But what I said is true. Just read the Constitution. Our current situation was partly caused by southern white ‘christians’ discrimination toward blacks, which was unfortunately backed by a scurrilous use of Scripture. Other minorities followed suit and then sexual minorities, which of course are not really minorities at all but rather are collections of perverts. But that’s how it happened.

    • Irene Neuner

      Opposition isn’t equivalent to hatred. Disgust of a certain behavior, like homosexuality, likewise doesn’t equal hatred. I hate many things that my beloved and darling children do but I love them deeply as I do not tolerate when they do something hurtful to themselves or others.

      Forcing or attacking a Christian to work for (the florist and the cake maker) or employ or not speak their beliefs (in churches and in schools) does go against the first amendment.

      The 1st amendment at the same time protects homosexuals in that it doesn’t allow Islamic law which calls for punishment of homosexual acts.

      Praise God people who do things that he hates are forgiven through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ however we are called to stop our sinful actions and Praise God we are given a helper to give us the strength to actually do it.

    • Mo86

      “that practicing her religion includes the right to discriminate against gay people. ”

      LOL! Show me where she said that. Show me where anyone is discriminating against gay people.

  • Gary

    All anti-discrimination laws are immoral, violate the 1st Amendment, and most also violate the 13th Amendment. The liberal courts won’t require the laws to comport with the Constitution. I hope Trump will take action to undo the wrongs that Obama did.

  • iprazhm

    No he will not. He has emphatically come out on the side of homosexuals, since being sworn in. You cannot defend the imaginary special rights of those who’ve engaged in a war to destroy Christian’s rights, and defend Christians at the same time. It has to be one or the other, and he has chosen.

    • NoUsurpers

      Neil Gorsuch objected to military recruiters when he was in college, because the military used to screen out homosexuals as incompatible w/ military service. The homosexual lobby intends to run devout Christians who are wedding service providers out of business if they decline to service gay weddings– will Neil Gorsuch side with the persecuted– or with the persecutors? How do you protect religious freedom rights of devout Christians in such instances if you embrace homosexual rights and give them protected status? Where does Gorsuch stand on gay marriage/gay adoption??- apparently we don’t know yet….

      • iprazhm

        The only thing I can find is that Gorsuch is an Episcopalian. This is that church’s stance on homosexuality;

        Since 1971 they ordained women priests – since 2003 elected homosexuals as bishops and in 2015, they codified theological support for same-sex marriage. That is pagan, not Christian. They left God and His word decades ago. Reference: Stances of Faiths on LGBTQ Issues: Episcopal Church – The Human Rights Campaign

        • NoUsurpers

          It is my understanding that Gorsuch attends a very liberal Episcopalian church known for social activism (and pro-gay). A friend sent a piece written by Susan Springer, rector of St. John’s Episcopal Church in Logan (Gorsuch’s church) entitled Episcopalians don’t share LDS view on homosexuality. Of course that doesn’t mean Gorsuch agrees w/ the rector.

          • iprazhm

            Disturbing and definitely worth consideration. Unfortunately we’ll probably once again have to wait and see.

          • Gary

            If he doesn’t agree, why does he attend there? Birds of a feather usually flock together.

          • NoUsurpers

            Some people do go to church b/c friends attend or parents were congregants. I’m inclined to believe you choose a church because you like the sermons and agree with the minister- not because you like the stained glass windows or because it’s only a mile from your house. Gorsuch needs to be asked about his views.

          • Sharon

            A church should be chosen by how closely they follow the Scripture. There is only one that I know of that does this. The Church of Christ. It is also the only one mentioned in the New Testament. The Churches of Christ Salute you. They try hardest of all to follow exactly what Jesus said for the Church to be and do. They baptize according to the bible by immersion and don’t waste time baptizing innocent babies which is NOT biblical. They partake of the Lords Supper EVERY Sunday as Christ commanded not once a month as man has decided. This is THE LORDS CHURCH.. And HE is the one we had Better please.. not ourselves. Allowing homosexuals to come in and not be told they MUST stop their sin… and to allow them to do this marriage thing which truly is abomination to God.. is so awful I am surprised God does not strike those churches dead on the spot. BUT HE does not operate that way anymore and HE will save His Judgement for the LAST DAY. we had better be ready and prepared. what blows me away is that when we travel north in this country you don’t even SEE The Church of Christ… That should scare everyone to death. All you see are man made denominations with false teachings that are not found in the Bible.

          • Rod Smith

            Just because 1800 years or so after Paul wrote those words, a group had the audacity to call themselves the “Church of Christ”, does not make them “mentioned in the New Testament”. Furthermore, a name proves nothing in regard to the accuracy of their doctrine.

          • Sharon

            he might as well not attend church at all. This is not a people following God’s word but MAN’s .. God said women are to be SILENT in church as far as preaching and leadership roles. AND homosexuality they are just ignoring the fact that along with adultery it will cost you a home in heaven and send you to a fiery eternity of horror and pain. It is NOT worth it.

        • Spectrum

          Gorsuch is regarded as a strict constitutionalist. If this is true, then he would have not ruled in favour of the sham of same-sex “marriage” in the Obergefel v Hodges case, had he been on the bench at the time. Because there was no clearly defined legal justification in it with which to do so. Instead the majority Justices contrived a way with which to inject their personal views into their legal reasoning, and came up with a decision that has no legitimate basis in law. In fact there is no law passed by congress and the senate approving gay “marriage”, nor is there any reference to it in the constitution. But now by judicial activist fiat, we have it.

          I strongly believe that a move to challenge this disgraceful ruling should be mounted. If Gorsuch is true to his character, it will be interesting to see how it turns out this time. However I fear that it will not happen. Once a right is given, even if, as with this, it is a highly dubious right – it is subsequently very difficult to revoke. No wonder the LGBT movement tried so hard to get the decision made in their favour.

  • The_Christian

    This will sound pessimistic, but evidence would suggest it is true; devout Christians are a minority in the US and therefore do not have the “political clout” once held and don’t “exercise” the clout they do have!. Although a slight majority of those polled will say they are Christian, and they may well be, that is not for me to judge, but those who are devout followers of the teaching of Christ are a definite minority. Church attendance is one indicator not to be ignored. We in the church sometimes speak of the Easter and Christmas Christians! Christian church bodies have a problem in separating “belief in and practice of” a queer sexual lifestyle. Many of our mainline churches no longer teach sexual purity and many openly accept that lifestyle as normal. Some of these denominations ordain ministers, elders, bishops, etc. who are actively engaged in a alternate sexual lifestyle; that includes some Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterian. Lutheran, etc. Many devout Christians remain silent on the issue out of concern that it may offend.

    All of that said, to suggest the struggle for Christian religious freedom is now and will continue to be a hard fought battle!

    • Sharon

      Remember what the Bible says….. Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it Matthew 7:14 this refers to the very few who will enter Heaven. Man has rejected God’s word and commands and the price is going to be very very harsh. Many say oh but God is awful to SEND Us to Hell NO you sent yourself to hell. YOU CHOSE to continue on in sin when God told you not to. YOU CHOSE to do things that are depraved and evil. He can’t have that in Heaven. He does not ask for all that much. but one of the things that is absolutely forbidden is homosexuality. Which by the way has killed BILLIONS now because of what they do.. aids wiped out so many innocents that need never have died if not for the disgusting things that homosexual men do. WHO does not know that the body’s waste system is NOT for use sexually? WOW..

  • Kyle

    I believe that as a Christian we should welcome all for it says honor thy neighbor and it never stated that marriage was just female and male but it does state honor thy neighbor and honor thy mother and father so I pray Trump doesn’t chang e the law on the lgbtq laws in school and everything else

    • Sharon

      you are sadly ignoring ALL the many verses that tell us NOT to accept those things that are sinful and degrading. It says plainly and CLEARLY in both old and NEW that this is abomination to GOD and those who do this filth of turning man to man or woman to woman as GOD DID NOT Intend,,. HE MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE period! will take your soul to hell for eternity. To do as YOU suggested is sin. We are told to stay FAR from sin like this and to have it taught in SCHOOLS that it is OK is the worst sin of all. The Bible is clear on what happens to those who teach children to sin… and encourage them in wrong.. that is what is happening today.

    • Rod Smith

      Sharon addressed the homosexuality issue very well. I would just like to add – Kyle, what Bible are you using that says “honor thy neighbor”? It’s nowhere in any of the 20 or so versions I’m familiar with.

  • John

    I have to believe what Galatians 5:21 says about those who will not inherit the kingdom of God. It appears that practicing any of the deeds of the flesh as a lifestyle will cause a loss of this inheritance. I have had many people tell me straight up that they have freedom of choice, and can live however they choose. I agree. But one apparently cannot live however one chooses and still go to heaven, according to the scripture above. I believe true salvation cannot be lost (“once saved always saved”). But I also read that “if anyone is in Christ they are a new creation”. I believe we have entered an era of “hyper-grace” where we discount behavior, (fruit), as a salvation indicator and place emphasis on a one time experience, or once spoken prayer, is our evidence. I don’t think Jesus meant for us to be unaware that ” a bad tree does not produce good fruit (behavior). Fruit is on the outside in plain sight visible to all. That being the case, observing it is not “passing judgement”. It is only drawing a logical conclusion from evidence visible to all. Although president Trump is a political conservative, he has displayed some troubling fruit in the area of the LBGT issues.

    • Sharon

      the Bible tells us exactly the opposite of once saved always saved. We are told repeatedly to be diligent and take care lest we fall from the grace of God. YOU BET we can stop being saved.. it is in our own hands whether we stay faithful to God or not. If we die in a state of unfaithfulness we are lost. You cannot find scripture that teaches once saved always saved but you can find MANY that say it is not the truth. I just don’t want you to believe man made error! it is too dangerous! and YES homosexuality is abomination in God’s eyes and it is said BLUNTLY they who do these things will NOT inherit the Kingdom Of Heaven. Period. Obama went a LONG way into evil by forcing our kids to be taught that homosexuality and transgender all these terrible things are just AOK when they will lead those children straight to HELL> God is going to judge obama HARSHLY for the things he did against GOD and against America.

      • Tolulope Yemisi

        My dear,let’s not wait for God to judge Obama, let’s start praying for our kids,and let’s start voting for individuals not party,

  • Ray

    In Washington state, the state supreme court sided against the flower shop from Richland, forcing the owner to show up as the state directs pertaining to some ceremony. Can we require the state supreme court to show up at church? We wouldn’t think of it. It should be voluntary. Who do people think they are to intrude into another’s life and living? We are not property of the state for the state to do with as they please. I began to wonder if such judges could even find a bully spirit in Genesis 19. Do they know what the people of the state are up against? They should read Genesis 19. The court sided with the thugs, the most immoral and depraved….a condition of the court, I guess.

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