Thomas Sowell Reacts to Activist Judges Helping Illegal Immigrants Evade the Law

Take the next 14 minutes to listen as Hoover Institute Senior Fellow and 94-year-old national treasure Thomas Sowell breaks down the facts of recent events and everything that’s wrong with them. You’ll be wiser for the experience.

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The arrest of Judge Hannah Doogan is not merely a news headline. It is a stark warning of a systemic rot within our judiciary, a rot that threatens the rule of law, the constitutional order and the very cohesion of this nation. If the allegations are true and the FBI’s affidavit and witness accounts suggest they are, Judge Duggan’s actions represent a brazen abuse of judicial authority, a betrayal of public trust, and a deliberate subversion of federal law.

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When a judge, entrusted with upholding justice actively aids a lawbreaker, particularly an illegal immigrant facing criminal charges, we are not dealing with an isolated misjudgment. We are confronting an ideological crusade that seeks to dismantle the legal framework of this country under the guise of compassion. This is not an act of mercy. It is an act of defiance against the principles that sustain a free society.

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Let’s begin with the facts, because, as I’ve emphasized, the basic economics of reality must be confronted head on, not obscured by wishful thinking. On April 18th, 2025, in Milwaukee County Circuit Court Judge Doogan allegedly directed Eduardo Flores Ruiz, an undocumented immigrant from Mexico, and caught on a battery charged to leave through a jury door, thereby evading I.C.E. agents waiting in the hallway and the FBI affidavit details how she intentionally misdirected federal officers, allowing flaws of Ruiz and his lawyer to escape apprehension, and this led to her arrest on April 25th, 2025, on charges of obstruction and concealing an individual to avoid arrest, carrying a potential six year prison sentence if convicted on both counts.

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Judge Doogan released on her own recognizance pending a hearing on May 15th, 2025, claims through her lawyer that she regrets the arrest and disputes its necessity for public safety. But the evidence, corroborated by court staff and federal agents, paints a damning picture of deliberate interference with immigration enforcement. This case bears striking similarities to that of Massachusetts Judge Shelley in Richmond.

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Joseph charged in 2019 for allegedly helping Jose Medina Perez, an illegal immigrant, with drug convictions and two prior deportations, evade I.C.E. by allowing him to exit through a rear door of her Newton district Court. Both cases involve judges accused of obstructing federal law enforcement. Both involve undocumented immigrants with criminal records, and both reflect a troubling pattern of judicial activism.

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While the charges against Judge Joseph were dropped in 2022, in favor of a disciplinary review with formal misconduct charges filed in January 2025, the parallels underscore that Judge Duggan’s actions are not a one off event, but part of a dangerous trend in The vision of the anointed. I argue that elites, convinced of their moral superiority, often seek to impose their vision on society, disregarding laws that constrain their ambitions.

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Judges Duggan and Joseph exemplify this using their courtrooms as platforms to advance ideological agendas rather than as bastions of impartial justice. Let’s place this in the context of constitutional governance. The United States Constitution is a meticulously designed framework to balance power and preserve liberty. The founders are acutely aware and Federalist number 51 warn of the dangers of concentrated power.

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James Madison wrote, if men were angels, no government would be necessary. Legislative. Executive, judicial was established to prevent any branch from usurping another’s authority. Immigration policy, including enforcement, is explicitly a federal prerogative. Article one. Section eight of the Constitution grants Congress the power to establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and the executive branch, through agencies like I.C.E. executes those laws.

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The judiciary’s role is to interpret the law, not to obstruct its enforcement. By allegedly shielding Flores Ruiz. Judge Doogan stepped beyond her constitutional bounds, assuming the role of an executive officer, deciding which laws apply. This is not the conduct of a neutral arbiter. It is the behavior of a political operative in robes undermining the very system she swore to uphold.

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The implications of a courtroom being used to shelter lawbreakers are profile bound. First, consider the legal consequences. The rule of law depends on its consistent application. When a judge flouts the law, it creates a two tiered system, one for elites who can bend rules with impunity, and another for ordinary citizens who face penalties for minor infractions and intellectual in society.

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I discuss how such double standards breed cynicism and erode public trust among the average American. Whether a factory worker, a teacher, or a small business owner must comply with laws, pay taxes, and face consequences for violations. Yet when a judge aides a lawbreaker, it signals that the law is optional for those with power. The public reaction to Duggan’s arrest, protests in Milwaukee, and condemnation from Democratic leaders like Mark McCann highlights this divide.

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While some rallied to her defense, others, like Attorney General Pam Bondi, rightly assert that no one is above the law. The case of Judge Joseph, where federal charges were dropped only reinforces the perception that elites escape accountability, further undermining faith in our institution. Economically, the consequences are dire. Illegal immigration, particularly when unchecked, imposes significant costs on working class communities and basic economics.

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I emphasize that resources are scarce and every choice has a trade off. Illegal immigrants, especially those with criminal records like Flores, Ruiz, compete for jobs, housing and public services. Low skilled workers, often minorities, face wage suppression and job displacement. Schools are overcrowded, hospitals are strained, and welfare programs are stretched thin. These burdens fall disproportionately on the communities that progressive elites claim to champion.

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Flores Ruiz, charged with battery, is not a net contributor to the economy. He is a liability, consuming resources that could be better allocated to law abiding citizens by shielding him. Judge Duggan indirectly exacerbates these economic pressures, betraying the working class Americans who bear the brunt of such policies. The hypocrisy is stark. Those who preach compassion for the marginalized often ignore the marginalized citizens who suffer the consequences.

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National security is another critical concern. A nation that cannot control its borders cannot ensure its safety. The founders understood this. As Alexander Hamilton noted in Federalist No. 41, stressing the need for a strong federal government to protect against external threats, illegal immigration, when coupled with lax enforcement, creates vulnerabilities. Flores Ruiz’s battery charge suggests the disregard for societal norms that could escalate to more serious threats.

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While not every illegal immigrant is a danger. The inability to distinguish between the benign and the malign due to actions like Judge Dugan’s compromises security sanctuary policies, whether enforced by cities or rogue judges, send a message that America’s laws are negotiable, encouraging further illegal entry. FBI Director Kash Patel statement that Dugan’s actions increased danger to the public underscores this risk.

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The parallel with Judge Joseph, who aided an immigrant with drug convictions, highlights the recurring threat to public safety when judges obstruct enforcement. This case is part of a broader pattern of judicial activism, evident in cases like Judge Josephs and others in A conflict of visions. I contrast a constrained vision which respects limits and trade offs with the unconstrained vision which pursues utopian ideals regardless of consequences.

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Judge Dugan’s alleged actions embody the unconstrained vision, prioritizing a misguided sense of compassion over the rule of law. This trend is seen in judges who strike down voter ID laws, block deportation orders, or reinterpret constitutional provisions to align with progressive ideology. Each instance erodes the rule of law, replacing it with judicial fiat. The founders warned against this in Federalist No.

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78. Hamilton described the judiciary as the least dangerous branch, provided it remained impartial. But he also cautioned that judicial independence must not become unaccountable power. When judges act as political operatives, they betray their oath and endanger the Republic. The hypocrisy of progressive judges is particularly galling. They claim moral authority, framing their actions as compassion for the vulnerable. But compassion, when divorced from law, is a dangerous indulgence in the quest for cosmic justice.

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I argue that the pursuit of idealized justice often harms the very people it claims to help. Judge Dugan’s actions, like those of Judge Joseph, do not aid the vulnerable. They harm citizens who rely on a functioning legal system. Working class communities, particularly in high immigration areas, face the consequences of crime, economic strain and eroded trust. Meanwhile, the judge remains insulated her elite status, shielding her from the fallout.

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True compassion would prioritize the rule of law, ensuring fairness for all. Not selective leniency for lawbreakers. This case also reflects the cultural malaise, the romanticization of illegal immigration. The narrative of the undocumented dreamer obscures the reality of cases like Flores Ruiz, where criminality is at play. Legal immigration is a cornerstone of America’s strength, but it requires respect for the process.

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Those who bypass it and those who aid them undermine the sacrifices of millions who follow the law. In wealth, poverty and politics, I discuss how cultural norms shape societal outcomes. A culture that rewards lawbreaking over law abiding behavior is on a path to disintegration. The broader context of Duggan’s arrest, part of a Trump administration crackdown that also saw the arrest of former New Mexico Judge Joel Cano for harboring an undocumented immigrant with gang ties, underscores the urgency of addressing this trend.

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The public’s divided response protests in Milwaukee versus support from officials like Bondi mirrors the polarization seen in Judge Josephs case, where disciplinary measures failed to fully restore trust. All right, let me conclude with three principles that should guide our response to this crisis. First, compassion without law is tyranny in disguise. Compassion is a virtue. But when it overrides the law, it becomes a tool for arbitrary power, favoring some at the expense of others.

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Second, judges who shield law breakers cease to be impartial and become political operatives in robes. The judiciary’s legitimacy rests on its neutrality. When judges act as advocates, they forfeit that legitimacy. Third, you do not preserve a nation by rewarding those who break its laws while punishing those who follow them. A nation’s survival depends on its ability to enforce its laws, consistently ensuring that respect for the law is the foundation of citizenship.

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The arrests of Judges Doogan and Joseph. A wake up calls if we allow judges to weaponize compassion, subvert the Constitution and erode the rule of law, we risk losing the framework that has made America a beacon of liberty. The founders understood the fragility of self-governance. We ignore their warnings at our peril. The path forward requires accountability, a recommitment to constitutional principles, and a rejection of the utopian fantasies that threaten our republic.

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The rule of law is not negotiable. Is the price of a free society. Restoring trust begins with accountability. Judges who violate their oath must face consequences, just as citizens do, for breaking the law. The leniency shown in Judge Joseph’s case charges drop for a disciplinary review cannot be repeated with Judge Doogan. Congress and the executive must reassert their authority over immigration policy, clarifying that the judiciary has no role in enforcement decisions.

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Public education is vital. Citizens must understand the Constitution and the dangers of judicial activism. Finally, we need leaders who uphold the rule of law, not exploit it for populist or elitist ends. Trust is rebuilt through actions, not promises. But the challenge is immense, and the stakes are nothing less than the survival of our constitutional republic.