Perhaps Father James Martin Should Write for Teen Vogue

Father James Martin

By Stephen Herreid Published on July 17, 2017

Teen Vogue has published a “how-to” article promoting anal sex. As I’ve written before, the magazine’s audience includes children as young as 11. I recommend my colleague Jennifer Hartline’s excellent article about it here at The Stream.

To anyone who cares about kids, the Vogue article was an obvious outrage. But what if I told you that influential Christians are laying the groundwork for Teen Vogue-style sodomy instructions to be introduced into Christian youth groups and catechism classes?

That’s where pro-LGBT Christians are leading us. And since teens and children would suffer the most from this outcome, Christian parents have an urgent duty to speak out.

Jesuit Father James Martin: “Update” the Catechism

Vatican Communications Counselor Fr. James Martin just released a book called Building a Bridge: How the Catholic Church and the LGBT Community Can Enter Into a Relationship of Respect, Compassion and Sensitivity. He points to Psalm 139:14: “I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.” LGBT people are “Born This Way” by God’s design, he argues.

Teaching that “one of the deepest parts of a person — the part that gives and receives love — is ‘disordered’ in itself is needlessly cruel,” he writes.

“The language used in the catechism on that topic needs to be updated,” he said elsewhere. Instead of “objectively disordered,” he suggested the term “differently ordered.”

No wonder Fr. Martin praised Lady Gaga’s pro-LGBT anthem “Born This Way,” which includes the lyric, “A different lover is not a sin.”

“There’s some theology in that,” Fr. Martin said of the song.

The General Synod of the Church of England Went Gaga Too

The General Synod of the Church of England just adopted a new stance against so-called “conversion therapy.” The decision was based on a motion that contained language eerily similar to Fr. Martin’s.

“The Bible teaches us that we are each fearfully and wonderfully made (Ps. 139.14), and that we should praise God’s gift of our creation,” the motion argued. Different “sexual orientations and gender identities are not inherently sinful.”

Christian Parents: Demand Answers to These Three Questions

Stream contributor Dr. Robert (“Bobby”) Oscar Lopez has written about Fr. Martin’s work, and he personally attended the General Synod in York. I drew from his insights to come up with three simple questions for Christian parents to ask powerful men like Fr. James Martin and the churchmen at the General Synod.

1. Why Do You Want to Normalize Strangers Talking to Other People’s Kids About Sodomy?

The pro-LGBT push will lead to strangers talking privately to other people’s kids about sexual acts. These strangers will have a bias in favor of sexualizing kids by introducing them to Fr. Martin’s various “differently ordered” sex options. After all, it’s the only way to determine whether a child was “born this way.” (See question 2.)

“Most gay activists believe children are sexual enough to have a sexual orientation to be preserved,” Dr. Lopez stated in an outside presentation during the General Synod.

The Synod focused on the “cruelty” of Christian counseling caricaturized as “conversion therapy.” But why, Lopez asked, is there no concern about “LGBT-affirming” counselors introducing sexual ideations to kids at an inappropriate age?

“Law enforcement groups define ‘grooming’ as doing just this,” Lopez said.

2. What is an “LGBT Child?”

It’s a simple question with a simple, incriminating answer.

How do you know that, say, a 12-year-old boy is homosexual or bisexual? Even if he were “born that way,” how do you determine that he has a sexual appetite for males?

There is no way to define his “sexuality” that is appropriate to his age. Go ahead. Try to define homo- or bi-sexuality without any reference to sexual arousal in response to male or female stimuli. Can you even define the “gay” boy’s “sexuality” without reference to homosexual acts — to sodomy, oral sex, petting?

Now try defining “transgendered” and “cisgendered” without reference to genitalia and genital pleasuring.

You can’t. More ominously, neither can LGBT counselors who speak to Christian children about sexuality.

3. What Will You Do to Christians Who Don’t Conform?

The General Synod didn’t just condemn “conversion therapy.” They called in the British government to catechize children, and to monitor Christian pastors (and parents!), lest they teach anything contrary to the new LGBT orthodoxy.

After all, what do Christians know about LGBT children? Christian pastors who teach sexual morality aren’t “licensed medical and psychological professionals,” the original motion complained.

In counseling young people, pastors may even attempt to “convert a transgender person’s gender expression to match that of the sex they were assigned with at birth.”

“Born this way,” indeed.

A “Theology of Pederasty” Can Help Predators, but There’s Nothing in It for Kids

I once wrote an exposé about a predator priest named Fr. Carlos. He lured young boys into his bed and called it “spiritual direction.” Another priest, who helped blow the whistle on Fr. Carlos, called his grooming method a “theology of pederasty.”

Fr. Martin weakly denies it, but the logical conclusion of his claims is obvious. What’s more, it could be very useful to men like Fr. Carlos. If homosexual desire isn’t a temptation toward sin, but a “differently ordered” appetite ordained by God, then sodomy itself is also merely “differently ordered,” and not sinful.

“Don’t believe me?” I can just hear Fr. Carlos asking a nervous boy under his spiritual care, “Just listen to Fr. Martin. He was handpicked by the pope.”

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  • Patmos

    So lust is love? How in the world is this guy even allowed to be in the Catholic Church? Yeah yeah, insert punchline here. But seriously, what part of abomination does this guy and people like him not understand?

    • Dean Bruckner

      They understand, but deny and suppress.

  • john appleseed

    There are no “pro-LGBT Christians.”
    There are plenty of pro-LGBT people who profess to be Christians, but obviously they are not following Christ.

    They are after our kids for many reasons, but here’s one badly under-reported statistic that may reveal the biggest reason of all:
    Less than 3% of the population is homosexual, but over 40% of child molestations are male-abusing-male or female-abusing-female.

    • Stephen D

      Ah yes. Here in Australia we have concluded an official government inquiry into the sexual abuse of children in institutions (schools, orphanages etc). The inquiry found that thousands of children had been sexually abused over the past few decades. The vast majority of paedophiles were men (many were Catholic priests) and their victims were boys.

    • BWF

      No true Scotsman, right?

  • BTP

    I don’t understand any of this. Fr. Martin, S.J., is always smiling. So he must be ok.

  • Ron Carroll

    Vengeance is Mine sayeth the LORD!!!
    Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Romans 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.Hebrews 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. Luke 17:2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

  • Ron Carroll

    This makes me ill and very angry, however I know I should pray for these idiots, for they are clearly ignorant!

  • Diogenes71

    How sad! How truly, truly sad to wander away from the truth.
    The truth is constant, consistent, whole, good and has an inner joy that wants to escape and proclaim itself to the world.

  • Jim Dorchak

    So……….. maybe it is a GOOD IDEA to be homophobic?
    I think so. They are evil and will stop at nothing to steal the souls of our Children. That in itself is reason to be homophobic.

  • Memento Mori

    Spadaro says that 2+2=5.
    Sosa says that the devil does not exist.
    Martin is building a bridge to sodomy (a sin that cries for vengeance from Heaven).
    Ferrer is teaching universalism.
    Pope Francis is encouraging adulterers to “eat their own judgement” by approaching Eucharist unrepeated.

    Is anyone else seeing the pattern??

    St. Ignatius of Loyola, ora pro nobis!

  • ArthurMcGowan

    James Martin, S.J. will be the featured speaker at Theological College, the Sulpician seminary at the Catholic University of America, at their alumni days, October 3-4, 2017.

    Once known as “Theological Closet,” T.C. went through a long period of reform in the 80’s and 90’s. They appear to be going backward under Bergoglio.

  • M B

    James Martin is so obviously, a homosexual himself. — his intentions are indeed satanic, as likewise are they who
    endorse his views.

  • M B

    “Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be courageous; be strong.” 1 Corinthians 16:13
    “Therefore, my dear brothers and sisters, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain.” 1 Corinthians 15:58

    • Stephen Herreid


  • Nobody Specific

    “LGBT people are “Born This Way” by God’s design, he argues.” No they are not. There is zero evidence to support that.

    There is nothing in the scripture that does anything other than to suggest sodomy is a sinful act. So there is no case to be made that its “God’s design.” That just leaves the born that way part.

    Well 20 years or more since the human genome project. No evidence of gay gene. No real evidence any differing physical characteristic in homosexuals. Now we have all these folks that are claiming to be bisexual, and gender fluid. If its fluid than its a choice.

    All the actual evidence suggests that homosexuals and transsexuals have a mental illness. Many will argue that ‘conversion therapy’ does not work. That much is true the statistics don’t make that look especially promising. Other things are true, it has worked for some! Much of it has been attempted by people who are not professionals in the field of treating mental illness, so its likely been executed poorly much of the time. Finally because treatments don’t seem to work does not make something magically not a illness. HIV long defied effective therapy, that did not make it normal or desirable, we still have lots of cancers that don’t respond much to treatment, that does not make them normal or desirable. Just because we don’t have an effective treatment does not make homosexuality anything other than a condition.

  • Jl Lin

    More foolish folks in the clergy drinking this toxic Kool-Aid. God help us.

  • freddy fudd

    Would this priest absolve a bully of his sin because he made the claim he was “born that way”? What about a kleptomaniac, or a false witness? This defense of sin should either be discarded, or stretched to cover all sin. I’m speaking only of sin, the concern of the church, and not crime, the concern of the state. Sadly, this seems to be the direction we are headed. Eventually, repentence of sin will be no longer be a core church teaching.

  • coilette

    How do you know that, say, a 12-year-old boy is homosexual or
    bisexual? . . .

    There is no way to define his “sexuality” that is appropriate to his age. Go ahead. Try

    Of course there is a way to define his sexuality. You look to the nature of the human person. As a male, his sexuality is objectively oriented toward females. As a male, he is by nature made for sexual joinder with a female.

    Meanwhile, “gay” or “homosexual” is not ontological. It does not go to the nature of the person. There is no one who “is” gay. They may choose to act in such fashion, but homosexuality is not a matter of being, only doing or thinking.

    • Stephen Herreid

      True, and well put.
      But what I wrote was “Try to define *homo-* or *bi-sexuality* without any reference etc.
      Thanks for the comment!

  • coilette

    And to be clear here, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a man loving another man. In fact, they should love other men. Jesus even says so.

    But homosexuality and the push to make it normative is not about love. It is about sexual conduct. Men should love other men, but in the manner proper to such relationship and not in the manner of a man loving a woman.

  • John

    We should have compassion and Empathy for the LGBT community. Most claim to have been born the way they are and we should put ourselves in their shoes when we consider this issue.There is a reason Jesus forbids us from judging people, we as finite humans really can never fully understand someone else’s circumstances, but God can. However we still have a responsibility to speak the truth. God never opened the door to LGBT relationships, not in scripture and not in the early apostolic church. Christians advocating for a change in sexual ethics need to consider that our creator knows something about us we do not , and some doors need to be left closed. The challenge for Christians today is to speak the truth in love and not compromise. Only the body and blood of Christ will fulfill any of us. It is what al broken people are looking for ( that’s all of us). The danger is now some people are claiming nothing is broken, and they are in the church – robbing the cross of it’s power , dividing the kingdom , tying up the strongman so the house can be burglarized, leaving something else to come in a fill that empty space that makes people worse than bf

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