Milo Yiannopoulos’ Controversial Comments Reveal Hypocrisy Within LGBT Community

By Robert Oscar Lopez Published on February 20, 2017

I can understand why Milo Yiannopoulos’s words about pederasty strike readers as loathsome. They’ve already cost him an invitation to CPAC and apparently even his big book deal. It is indeed shocking for someone to state (falsely) that a 13-year-old boy of exceptional maturity may be prepared for sex and might benefit from a relationship with a much older man, even though the age difference guarantees that such interaction would be unequal and probably exploitative. But — and this is a big but: what he said is quite common in gay subculture, almost banal, though both left and right tend to downplay or hide it when they discuss policy matters.

I take seriously his joke about being sexually abused, which certainly fits in with his overall pattern of behavior. Many boys abused by older gay men are told this litany of rationalizations: This is who you are, you must be true to yourself, keep breathing and it will stop hurting, you will learn to like this, why fight this, it was you who wanted this, don’t you remember, you asked me to show you, nobody will believe you now that you’ve done it already so just settle in with the gay community for the long haul. Once the molester has conquered you he will likely throw you away, but the gay community will protect its own at all costs, and will crush you ruthlessly if you tell the truth to the world at large.

In a society soaked in porn where sexual orientation is discussed openly in front of small children, there will certainly be 12- and 13-year-olds who think they want sex and think they are ready for it. When we discuss “gay identity” with 6th graders, which is very common, what are we discussing? We are talking about sexual acts. Perhaps people need to stand up and resist the Human Rights Campaign’s recent push to force such curricula on elementary and middle schools.

The gay adults who often oversee such youth clubs like to project their own highly edited memories of growing up on young people (remember the “It Gets Better” series?). It is naive to think that you can encourage a 7th grader to identify as gay and then be shocked when he has sex with a man. Given the shortage of gay-identified boys within his age range, he will probably be initiated by an older man and then fall in with increasingly older men until he’s now 15 and sleeping with 45-year-olds.

Coddling the LGBT Lobby

Does this sound ghastly and unthinkable? Everything that society has done, nodding along with the preposterous notions of the LGBT lobby out of timidity or out of gullibility, has created this horror. If you say people are “born gay,” you imply that people have sexual desires from birth and a destiny that demands they initiate themselves into sex. The actual mechanics of sodomy are traumatic — painful, unhygienic, even humiliatingly awkward — but society refuses to speak honestly about it even as they want kids to know about homosexuality. So the boy’s most reliable source for knowledge about how to navigate this activity will be the older men who are sodomizing him.

In the case of Rutger’s student Tyler Clementi, you had a cause célèbre of a pubescent-looking man committing suicide after having been entangled with very shady older men, men with much more sexual experience. The response from society was to blame homophobia rather than to examine the social fallout of boys being available for suggestive interactions with older gay men who want, simultaneously, pleasure and a chance to create a younger mirror for themselves.

And while Milo may shock, there are countless cases in the last four years of people not being shocked by similar statements in different contexts. Didn’t Dustin Lance Black make an acclaimed film about pederast Harvey Milk and then seduce the teenager Tom Daley, who was barely legal and had just lost his father and was less than half Black’s age? Michelangelo Signorile trumpeted this as intergenerational intimacy” in The Huffington Post and was not condemned for it.

I was condemned by GLAAD and the Human Rights Campaign for pointing out that intergenerational intimacy, if accepted, will eventually make age of consent laws irrelevant. Where was all the outrage during the gay marriage debate, when BN Klein, Dawn Stefanowicz, Moira Greyland, and I all talked about the rapid sexualization of children within gay parenting homes? Did they think that the five-year-olds dragged to gay pride parades and the Michigan Women’s Festival, seeing nakedness and leather sadomasochism scenes, would not begin to awaken sexually within six to seven years?

When there was a debate about Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, I warned people in my articles about the likely spike in male-male rape once you open the door to explicit discussions of homosexuality in cramped and pressurized billets. I warned, also, that DADT was largely used by gay men who’d been outed and needed a way out for their safety. After the repeal, both the suicide rate and the rape rate went up sharply. But nobody wanted to talk about this. Nobody wanted to talk about Terry Bean, or the LGBT activists who fought against the crackdown on underage online prostitution, or the cases like Caleb Laieski where awareness and outreach programs led to child molestation.

Quite apart from the political brinksmanship, Milo Yiannopoulos needs help. I can relate to his dilemma because I remember when I was sent around by conservatives to speak confessionally about growing up in a gay home, and then after a few years they forgot about me. And then I ended up leaving my tenured position because of the backlash from angry pro-gay leftists. To the extent that people invite Milo to speak, they need to ask him to deal honestly and directly with the gay issue, so that we can confront the issues he has raised rather than constantly tiptoe around them. 

Finally, the LGBT movement has been born, grown up, and turned rotten. Forget homophobia. It is time to call them out on it. I was targeted and slammed by the gay movement for speaking honestly about “intergenerational sex” and how harmful it is to children. They want to pretend this isn’t happening or it’s just like what happens in the straight world. But it isn’t so. So much of youth happens in sex-segregated spaces like locker rooms, boys’ clubs, summer camp, and the Boy Scouts. The opportunity for male mentors to get into boys’ intimate spaces without triggering alarms is infinitely higher. Plus, the gay community’s history is much more entangled with pederasty than is the straight world. So this is a gay issue that needs to be dealt with as such, and that means revisiting many of the claims of the LGBT movement with skepticism.

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  • Gary

    When I learned he is a sodomite, I never paid any attention to him.

    • skywalkr2

      Why? Aside from this kerfuffle… he’s very intelligent and brings up many good points. You just have to get past his bomb throwing.

      • mikehardin63

        I never wanted to “get past his bomb throwing.” It was that that bothered me before I even knew he was a homosexual. The left has for decades tried to brand the right with hate, racism, xenophobia, etc. Milo and the rest of the alt-right right movement, including Bannon/Trump prove them right unless the rest of us strongly renounce them. It takes a lot more to be conservative than being able to “trigger snowflakes.”

        • Renaissance

          To be accurate, neither Bannon nor Trump are “alt-right” and even Milo was disavowed as alt-right by the truly alt-right. If you want to know who the alt-right really is, I suggest going to youtube and looking up Red Ice Radio. They have a show about Milo from a year or so ago. It will curl your underarm hair to hear what the REAL alt-right have to say. Milo was just Milo, and Bannon and Trump just don’t know the “secret handshake” as Newt Gingrich said early on.

  • Autrey Windle

    Keep being courageous, Robert. Keep speaking the truth and turning over the rocks to reveal the morality buried beneath them. Go with God.

  • Proud_NIMBY

    A brilliantly written piece — well done Mr. Lopez!

  • Liz Litts

    great article. The biggest thing that stands out about the Lgwhatever movement is that it becomes all about the ABUSERS and the quest to make more meat for their market.

    • Jerry Reiter

      Correction: The biggest thing that stands out about the Milo Y altRight movement is that it become all about the ABUSERS and the quest to make more sheep for their meat market.

  • Jim Walker

    Milo shoots words without going through his brain. This is what happens when fame (aka pride) got into his head that he can’t connect with his intellect.

    • skywalkr2

      this is correct. Also this was years before he even attempted to moderate his language.

  • Oilfart1

    I was abused at that age by an older family member of the same sex. It was disgusting and I’m continued to be nauseated at the thought of that person during that time. There was NOTHING positive about that time in my life. Anyone who finds positive memories of that happening to them needs psychiatric treatment, just like those who suffer gender dysphoria and believe they are not the gender that their DNA identify them as.

    • PursueJustice

      It grieves me to hear stories like yours. One has to wonder how many young boys have been harmed the same way. It’s sad when our society seems to actually promote such things as normal now. I wish you well and hope that some day you will find peace.

      • Oilfart1

        Thank you. I’m completely at peace. I lost somethings then, but they are lost and I gain nothing by thinking about then.

        I was able to reconcile, somewhat, with the family member as the cancer consumed him, but that gave me no solace or satisfaction.

        I watch for similar circumstances now. I don’t want to see that happen to another.

  • Jayne

    Great article, Mr Lopez, fantastic use of sources to support your points. And I am very sorry for your being exploited.

  • Stephen_Phelan

    Courageous article–thank you, Mr. Lopez. This bears repeating:

    “Quite apart from the political brinksmanship, Milo Yiannopoulos needs help.
    I can relate to his dilemma because I remember when I was sent around
    by conservatives to speak confessionally about growing up in a gay home,
    and then after a few years they forgot about me. And then I ended up
    leaving my tenured position because of the backlash from angry pro-gay
    leftists. To the extent that people invite Milo to speak, they need to
    ask him to deal honestly and directly with the gay issue, so that we can
    confront the issues he has raised rather than constantly tiptoe around
    them.”

    • Deplorable Rican ☨ʳᵉᵈᵉᵉᵐᵉᵈ

      Pretty much nails it.

      • Jerry Reiter

        If you like fiction.

  • stefoodie

    Thanks so much for speaking out about this, Bobby. I will be sharing. For some reason I had thought that pederasty was already well-understood by conservatives. God bless! 🙂

  • BakerMaker

    Homosexuality and pedophilia are not the same thing. Pedophiles are taking advantage of a power dynamic. I’m not defending the idiot, Milo, in any way, btw. He’s not helping anyone.

  • AnneLewis

    Well said and spot on. Thank you.

  • Ryker2009

    Good Article-thanks

  • Marisa Ann

    Proud to call you friend, Robert! Excellent article!

  • skywalkr2

    Important points. I think this won’t go well for the left. This seems like they couldn’t defeat him through political argument, and instead decided to go after his gay lifestyle? How can the LGBT community condone that?

    • Jerry Reiter

      Milo is on the far Right, and nobody on the Left is bothered by his gay sexual orientation (no such thing as THE gay lifestyle). Everyone across the spectrum is upset with Milo’s support of pedophilia or ephebophilia because we all agree it’s important to protect minors.

      • Renaissance

        The homosexual community has been furious with Milo for quite some time for his conservatism and for not toeing the party line on transsexuals. In the past week, the Advocate called him a troll and criticized Bill Maher for having him on the show.

      • Liza

        LGBT has supported Pederasts forever–Terry Bean, Harvey Milk the list goes on and on. Every kid that killed themselves was in deep with one of those LGBT “teen centers”. Milo was honest–pederasts are 100% accepted along with all kinds of child abuse.

        • Jerry Reiter

          Oh, Robert. Go rag on the heterosexual father who never gave a crap about you instead of endlessly repeating the same lies about people like your two loving Mom’s.

    • pyroclastic

      lol why are you blaming the left for this? His fall from “grace” was caused pretty much entirely by conservatives.

      that well known leftist group the reagan battalion posted the video that started this kerfuffle, then the left wing pressure group the Conservative Political Action Conference decided to rescind his invitation to speak there. His publisher were clearly happy with all of his other views, which obviously suggests they were socialist sleeper agents playing the long game. And to top of it off he had to resign from the notorious liberal safe space breitbart after a bunch of their pinko commie reporters threatened to leave if he stayed on.

      • Renaissance

        Globalist conservatives with CIA ties (Evan McMillian). This is not about homosexuality; it’s about the CIA’s war with Trump.

  • rcur

    Milo can not be trusted. He believes and promotes the lie that people are born gay or straight. The truth is people are created male and female and male and female is created for each other. So whatever he says remember it comes through a lens of a lie.

    • S.j. Bolden

      I’m no Milo apologist but I’ve heard him speak but he definitely does not support the “born that way” idea.

      • soundnfury

        Not for females, but he most definitely does for males.

        • ARB

          This is imprecise; rather, for males he defends a synthesis of the two ideas, with both nature and nurture playing into the equation.

          • rcur

            A half truth is not a truth at all. In fact it is a lie.

    • CKA

      Actually Milo does NOT believe you are born gay..Look it up. I appreciate Milo for his honestly. I love to listen to his talks, he is refreshing and spot on in many of his views. He does NOT hide behind his sexual lifestyle or say we MUST accept it, but he does scrutinized the liberal bias, and articulates its craziness.

  • Kent Novinger

    What Milo advocates for is Moral License. I have noticed it in the libertarian movement for quite some time. I heard him say sometime back that he is “the new face of Conservatism” if he is, then God help us, we indeed have lost our way. When I listened to the tape below, it brought back all the horrors of my childhood, he is sick and perverted, and if we embrace him we are selling our souls to Satan! Can I put it any stronger? I was molested for over a decade starting at the age of six, it is one thing for two consenting adults, they will have to answer for their own sin. Here’s the deal, the elephant in the room that no one dares talk about, the incidence of child abuse among homosexual males is significantly higher than heterosexual males. I understand statistics, and I know how to interpret them also. Over 90% of abuse is committed by men, guesstimates of the ratio between girls abused to boys is 2/1, but boys virtually never talk about their abuse, hence their abuse is under estimated. Next we need to define terms, all male to male abuse is homosexual and all male to female abuse is heterosexual, and all sexual relations between an adult and a minor is child sexual abuse. The Kinsey Report over estimated the number of homosexuals at approximately 10%, more recent studies have it at 3.2% in males and 1.6% in females. Now, as the estimates of males abused increases and the percentage of male homosexuals decreases, that simply means that 3.2% of males commit approximately 50% of child abuse. I am assuming that the ratio of girls to boys is much closer to 1/1. To further complicate the ramifications, 90% of boys are subjected to homosexual abuse, while girls are subjected to heterosexual abuse. The Apostle Paul admonishes us to flee from sexual sin. I have heard that many say all sin is the same, and that is true to the extent all sin has the capacity to condemn us to eternal separation from God. But sexual sin is different. The human brain is malleable, it is referenced as neural plasticity which goes a long way in explaining the human brain studies used by the homosexual lobby to justify homosexuality. All human brain studies are performed on cadavers, quite obviously after the fact. Studies also show that repetitive behaviors create pathways in the brain, much like deep ruts in a muddy road, as it is traveled more the ruts get deeper, imagine a vehicle if you will, soon the ruts are so deep it is almost impossible to extricate the vehicle from it’s tracks, those pathways are referenced as neural pathways, and at some point they become the default behavior, almost impossible to change. Behavior can be modified, Romans 12:2 talks about renewing the mind, but only with the proper help and discipline, and it takes years to undo the damage of aberrant behavior. What we are witnessing is the normalization of deviancy, if we embrace it our society will fall. Moral License is precisely what fuels big government programs. Another pertinent point, as deviancy becomes accepted, you can expect the numbers I have used to rise, it is not genetic, and if it were it would be reasonable to expect the percentages to remain static. That simply means even more abuse of children. Now it is important to understand what I am not saying here also. I am not saying that all homosexuals are child abusers, that should go without saying. It is much like those who smoke have a far greater chance of lung cancer. Now I do know that some will accuse me of being a hater, I have been at this far longer than I care to admit. I will not be deterred by leftist banter, I have endured far worse. If you take issue then I would suggest you address my data instead, good luck with that!

  • Philippa Martyr

    Thank you so much for this charitable and courageous article.

  • Nicholas

    I agree with the premise of this article. I think what Milo meant when he said that those men weren’t pedophiles was that technically they were ephebophiles. They’re adults who are attracted to post-pubescent adolescents. It’s undoubtedly part of gay culture, and I’m not saying that all gay men mess around with kids under 18 by any means. Some gay men are attracted to young guys who look boyish. I will not defend Milo here. I hope that he meant 18+ boys and misspoke.

    • Kent Novinger

      I posted a rather lengthy comment on this thread earlier and it was marked as spam, I went into great detail about the hugely disproportionate numbers of homosexual males that engage in sex with children. I understand the way that the radical homosexual movement continues to change the rhetoric in hopes to avoid the obvious, the overwhelming statistic that males commit better than 90% of abuse of children and that means that the vast majority of boys that are abused are abused by homosexual males! Hope they won’t censor this post also!

      • Michael Galt

        Where are your stats on that? Where are you getting this information?

        How do you connect “the overwhelming statistic that males commit better than 90% of abuse of children” and “the vast majority of boys that are abused are abused by homosexual males”?

        I’m genuinely curious.

        • Renaissance

          Just a test.

          Ok, so the link is triggering a hold, waiting to be approved. Go to the University of Michigan Sexual Assault Awareness Center page.

        • Kent Novinger

          If you read my comments you will note that I made a rather comprehensive post earlier that explained my reasoning, It was marked as spam and not posted, I have since reposted them above.

        • Kent Novinger

          Any abuse of a male child by an adult male is homosexual child abuse, that is fact, it needs no other explanation! It is not heterosexual abuse by definition!

        • Kent Novinger

          “Data from the US National Incident-Based Reporting System (NIBRS) showed that males made up 90% of adult child sexual assault perpetrators, while 3.9% of perpetrators were female.”

      • Guglielmo Marinaro

        Only a minority of the adult males who commit sexual abuse against boys have a homosexual preference where adults are concerned. Where such abusers have any sexual involvement with other adults – and not all do – it is far more often heterosexual. There are, of course, various reasons why some people do not want the general public to know this.

        • Kent Novinger

          You evidently do not understand statistical data, the vast majority of child abuse is committed by men, estimates as high as 93%. Furthermore the estimates of boys molested is underestimated, simply because boys rarely if ever open up about their abuse, while guesstimates of girls to boys abused are 2/1, these figures are greatly distorted. A child molester might victimize hundreds of children over the period of his lifetime and maybe never get caught or only be prosecuted for one event, all the unprosecuted cases are not part of the data base. Child molesters have a preference for either boys or girls and rarely engage in sex with both. Add to that the fact that child abuse is a serial crime, and recidivism rates are astronomical. Those figures simply mean that the vast majority of both sexes are abused by men and all sexual conduct between a man and a boy is homosexual abuse. I do know this evidently does not fit your narrative, but the facts do not lie, child abuse among homosexual males is far more prevalent as a percentage, then it is among heterosexual males. You see recent studies indicate that homosexual males compromise about 3.2% of the population, and a very large percentage of them account for all the abuse of boys, if it were heterosexual males doing it, they wouldn’t be molesting boys, now would they? Not all homosexuals are child molesters, and it is very difficult to obtain reliable data on the percentages of those who are. I believe that is largely due to the the fact the homosexual lobby has a disproportionate amount of influence in the media and the statistics, when analyzed correctly, serve as an indictment of the homosexual community. Perhaps that explains why my comments continue to be censored on this site too, I do not know, but I have made numerous posts that have been deleted.

          • Guglielmo Marinaro

            Just a few corrections.

            “Child molesters have a preference for either boys or girls and rarely engage in sex with both.”

            The first clause of that sentence is true for most child molesters; the second clause is untrue. It is far from uncommon for men with a preference for molesting boys also to molest girls or for those with a preference for molesting girls also to molest boys.

            “…all sexual conduct between a man and a boy is homosexual abuse.”

            Yes, it is literally homosexual (= same sex), just as all sexual conduct between a man and a girl is literally heterosexual (= other sex) abuse. However, the notion that men who engage in the sexual abuse of boys must also be homosexual in the sense of being sexually attracted to, or sexually involved with, other adult males is false. Some are, of course, but most are not.

            “…if it were heterosexual males doing it, they wouldn’t be molesting boys, now would they?”

            That’s what a naïve person with no knowledge of the facts would say, and it’s quite understandable. It seems to be just common sense. Common sense, however, is sometimes contradicted by hard facts. The reality is that, where male molesters of boys also have a sexual orientation with regard to other adults – although some have none – it is most often heterosexual. The infamous Jerry Sandusky is far from being an atypical case. I appreciate that this does not fit your narrative, but it is the reality. Of course most heterosexual men, like most homosexual men, do not molest children of either sex and wouldn’t want to.

            As I’ve said, there are certain people who have their reasons for not wanting the facts to be generally known.

          • Kent Novinger

            You stated, “As I’ve said, there are certain people who have their reasons for not wanting the facts to be generally known.” you are indeed right, certain people do not want the facts to be known , and you are one of them! Your own comments serve as an indictment of your analysis, I was correct in saying that most child molesters have a preference for one sex or the other, and you even agree with that, (not that your agreement serves to diminish or bolster my statement, indeed it is irrelevant, since you appear to be both ignorant and have an agenda to promote of your own, most likely your own deviancy). My agenda is to protect children from predators, and I am passionate about it and have a great deal of experience and knowledge on the subject, which apparently you have neither, and little or no concern for the victims of this particularly heinous crime! I was molested for over a decade starting at the age of six years old. It was by a homosexual, while your knowledge appears to be abstract at best, mine is not. Talk about being naive, your arrogance is not a substitute for ignorance. Your narrative serves to support sexual deviancy, nothing more, and it puts children at risk!

          • Guglielmo Marinaro

            “My agenda is to protect children from predators…”

            Well, you certainly won’t do that by trying to conflate ordinary gay men with those who sexually molest boys. On the contrary, such confusion is more likely to help to shield molesters from suspicion. I know of cases where it has served precisely that function.

            “I…have a great deal of experience and knowledge on the subject”

            Well, thank you for telling me. I could certainly never have deduced that from what you have written.

            I am sorry that you were sexually molested as child. Such a thing should never happen to anyone. That is no excuse, however for trying to vilify gay men in general, the vast majority of whom are innocent of any such behaviour. Nor is it any excuse for trying to hide the fact that men who do sexually molest boys are not in general the same sort of men as those who are sexually involved with other adult males (although a few are).

          • Kent Novinger

            “Data from the US National Incident-Based Reporting System (NIBRS) showed that males made up 90% of adult child sexual assault perpetrators, while 3.9% of perpetrators were female” You seem to think that homosexuality is not deviant behavior, I have read some of your other comments that serve to substantiate that conclusion. Your concerted efforts to defend homosexuality are quite obviously intended to shield homosexuals form the obvious connection between homosexuality and child abuse, however, it is undeniable in spite of your efforts! According to Dr. Jeffrey Satinover who has done a great deal of research on the subject, recent studies indicate that 3.2% of the adult population identifies as homosexual, I am not saying here that all homosexuals are child molesters, that should go without saying, but a hugely disproportionate number are. You simply attempt to pervert the statistical data for your own purposes, (I’m thinking you are homosexual, perhaps?) Again, all sexual relations between members of the same sex are by definition homosexual, it does not matter what their age! And all sexual relations between an adult and child is Child Abuse. Hence, the obvious conclusion, since 90% of the abuse is committed by men and all abuse of a male child by an adult male is child sexual abuse, it leads to only one conclusion, a very small percentage of homosexual males are committing a hugely disproportionate percentage of child abuse! Your consistent and dogged denial only serves to confirm your defense of sexual deviancy. I do understand that we all attempt to rationalize our behavior, and I also understand how these revelations serve to indict your beliefs! Perhaps you ought to read Romans Chapter 1, paying particular attention to what Paul says about homosexuality!

          • Guglielmo Marinaro

            Yes, all sexual relations between members of the same sex are by definition homosexual, just as all sexual relations between members of different sexes are by definition heterosexual. So what? It does not follow that men who are homosexual paedophiles (sexually involved with children) are also homosexual teleiophiles (sexually involved with adults). Most are not. In fact far more of those who do also have an adult sexual orientation are heterosexual teleiophiles.

            Here in the UK, some years ago, a boy aged 11 or 12 went missing. His body was eventually found not far from his home, and the examining pathologist determined that he had been seriously sexually assaulted and then strangled. When the detective inspector in charge of the case briefed his officers, he instructed them to contact and question “all known homosexuals” in the area, which they did. After many months of this kind of investigation they had got absolutely nowhere. Only when they ignored the matter of “homosexuals” entirely and instead concentrated simply on the men with whom the boy was known to have been in contact did they find the perpetrator. He was a coach at the junior football club of which the murdered boy had been a member. He was unknown in the gay community and was living with a woman in a heterosexual relationship.

            Whether you like it or not, the men who sexually abuse boys are not generally men who have or seek sexual relationships with other adult males. Yes, the two categories are not quite mutually exclusive, but the degree of overlap is small. I am not going to comment here on Paul’s theory about homosexuality in Romans 1. Since it has no bearing on this matter, I don’t know why you have brought it up.

          • Kent Novinger

            Wow, now we engage in the bastardization of the English language, cute! And if there is a way of manipulating the language, a shell game of sorts, then do that too! Liken to the little game played with gender identity, there are only two by the way! But now those who seek the normalization of deviancy have manged to define, at last count 31….that’s just bizarre! They are homosexuals that enjoy sex with boys, and when they get the chance their perversion is not limited exclusively to boys, either, it is compulsive behavior, it’s a mental disorder. It was listed as such by the APA until they were pressured into changing it by radical homosexuals back in the 1970’s. The reality is we are on a sliding scale morally, already those in the homosexual community are advocating for the lowering of consent laws or their abolition altogether! And then of course there is MBLA, you guested it, actually I am quite sure you already know, the Man Boy Love Association! Your example does not serve to mask his homosexuality, it simply illustrates his perverse obsession with sex. He committed a homosexual act, and of that there is no denying! Reality has it, you do not know the degree of overlap, you simply run to the defense of any sexual perversion, especially if it touches close to home, right? No, I wouldn’t comment on Paul’s admonition about homosexuality either if I were you, it condemns homosexuality! Paul later in I Corinthians 6:18 tells us to flee from sexual sin, for no other sin is a sin against one’s own body, in so doing he makes a special distinction between sexual sin and all others. Why? What was it that Paul was so concerned about? The human brain is malleable, it is referenced as neural plasticity which goes a long way in explaining the human brain studies used by the homosexual lobby to justify homosexuality. All human brain studies are performed on cadavers, quite obviously after the fact. Studies also show that repetitive behaviors create pathways in the brain, much like deep ruts in a muddy road, as it is traveled more the ruts get deeper, imagine a vehicle if you will, soon the ruts are so deep it is almost impossible to extricate the vehicle from it’s tracks, those pathways are referenced as neural pathways, and at some point they become the default behavior, almost impossible to change. Scripture is filled with wisdom about our very nature, if we only seek it. Right ay the outset we see the blame game taking place, Adam blames his actions on Eve and Eve blames the snake, and so it goes, my brain made me do it, I was born that way, after all it makes me feel good, and really isn’t that what it’s all about, the desire to feel good regardless of who it harms along the way? If you think Paul’s words have no application, then you won’t listen to mine either!

          • Kent Novinger

            Data from the US National Incident-Based Reporting System (NIBRS) showed that males made up 90% of adult child sexual assault perpetrators, while 3.9% of perpetrators were female

          • Guglielmo Marinaro

            What information did the data provide about the adult sexual orientations of those who sexually abused children?

        • Kent Novinger

          Wondering if you actually read what you post, before you post it? “Only a minority of the adult males who commit sexual abuse against boys have a homosexual preference where adults are concerned.” All sexual relations between two males is defined as homosexual, is does not matter the age! And all sexual relations between an adult and a child, is child sexual abuse!

  • Chris

    Sad, because one thing I have leaned as a gay man is that we are judged by people many times by the words of others. So many people do not understand what the gay life is and what it can be like…. Unfortunately, too many get their facts from the wrong sources…. Things like these controversial comments don’t help… the muddy up the truth….And often lead to false conclusions by and from those who dont understand!….

    • Liza

      Oh come off it. I grew up in LGBT raised by same sex parents and Milo said nothing new. The whole catatmite, pederast thing has been going on for centuries. People understand just fine and they don’t want 40 year old having at it with their 13 or 14 year old sons.

      • Jerry Reiter

        Hello, Mr. Liza. Other readers don’t realize Liza is in fact a man (robert oscar lopez) who has been obsessed with what gay men do in bed for a long, long time. And he did not grow up with gay Dads, and the fact is scientific studies show gays make good parents. Convincing parents their child is in danger with their gay uncle, but not the ones married to a woman is setting kids up for abuse.

        • Renaissance

          Just stop. Seriously. You’re making yourself look stupid.

          • LastSurvivorAR

            Do yourself a favour, friend, and don’t continue the debate with someone who chooses not to hear what you’re saying. There is no point in arguing with someone that believes in selective reality. You’re wasting your time… as far as he’s concerned you can say whatever you want. You’ll always be wrong.

            Pretty scary ignorance, isn’t it?

          • Renaissance

            Yes it is.

        • Kent Novinger

          What studies? All children are the product of heterosexual relations, that requires no study, rather simple observation. Children raised by homosexual couples are acquired by artificial means, it is not natural, rather a perversion of what is. Every child is entitled to both a mother and a father. it is in that context that children learn modeling, absent that the child is denied important input that can be acquired no other way. It is one thing to engage in a homosexual relationship, it is entirely another to be so selfish as to subject a child to what is unnatural, and that is precisely what it is, wanting it both ways. In case you haven’t noticed there is a formula for having children, it’s heterosexuality. That also becomes problematic for those who would argue homosexuality is genetic, how is the genetic predisposition passed on if not through heterosexual relations?

          • Jerry Reiter

            Homosexuality is natural, found in over 1,600 species. Marriage is not found in nature. It is a man-made thing. But when nature was in control of medical health of families (before medical science) most children died before their eighth birthday. That was the natural way.
            PS science shows same-sex couples will be able to have their own biological children very soon. Google it

          • Jerry Reiter

            And families with adopted children, children of artificial insemination, children of surrogacy, are all real families, regardless of the orientation of the parents. Love is love.

        • Jerry Reiter

          At the very least, stop writing gay erotica novels, Roberto Lopez

    • Kent Novinger

      ….and where might I ask do you get your “facts” from?

  • CatoYounger

    Spot on. The irony of debating the homosexual lobby is that they will say, “but you don’t know us”. But then, if you do any research, they will say, “how do you know all that, you must be secretly gay”. Isn’t it ironic that they worst insult they can throw is that you might be like them?
    Until the gay lobby intimidated the psychological profession into dropping homosexuality from the DSM, it was well known among psychologists and psychiatrists that almost all gay men had a seduction experience in their tweens or teens from an older man. Pederasty is so much part and parcel of homosexuality that consensus was building for it to be considered a causal agent in male homosexuality. Now, all that is taboo. You aren’t even allowed to conduct research into it for fear of being kicked out of graduate school. Your chair professor will tell you to your face such research is not allowed. No one will talk about it. Ironically, the gay community itself talks openly and endlessly about it. So much so, that as here, one of them forgot the wider straight community sees it as abnormal and wrong.

    • Jerry Reiter

      More fake news and old lies from FRC, the certified hate group. Gay men do not die 20 years sooner. And every minority group which is persecuted has had higher suicide and drug use rates. If you actually wanted to improve gay men’s health, you’d support marriage equality and sex education

      • Renaissance

        If you really want to improve homosexuals’ health, encourage celibacy. They’ll live longer.

        • Jerry Reiter

          and by ‘encourage” you mean verbally and physically abuse them, lock them up and encourage violence against LGBTQ people. Only about 1% of humans can live their entire lives celibate, bigot

          • Renaissance

            That’s your definition, not mine. You are free to misinterpret, but not to name-call based on that misinterpretation.

      • Liza

        Sex education? And who is going to be teaching that?

      • Kent Novinger

        Wondering if you actually read what you write….. before you post it? “Gay men do not die 20 years sooner. And every minority group which is persecuted has had higher suicide and drug use rates.” Hello!

    • Renaissance

      This reminds me of the transsexual/transvestite research which is now mute thanks to the language of “rights”. The fact that suicide rates of so-called transgenders actually RISE after sex-change surgery gives the lie to the political idea that these biological men are actually women in any way. If they were, the surgery would be a relief, not the impetus for a faster suicide. What most of these “transgenders” are is men with an obsessive-compulsive autogynophilic disorder which needs treatment.

  • Jerry Reiter

    This article is old-fashioned ‘guilt by association’ smear job, not based in facts since there is no link between homosexuality and pedophilia, per every medical and scientific expert. Lopez is bisexual himself, so his bitter stream of lies just shows how self-loathing he is. Lopez got every argument in this screed completely wrong. But he knows what his audience wants to read.

    • Renaissance

      Just stop. He’s right about this.

    • mam646

      Keep telling yourself that, dude. SMH.

    • Kent Novinger

      Your comments serve to reveal your complete ignorance on the issue. The link between homosexuality and child abuse is unequivocal!

  • Renaissance

    Excellent article, Robert. This is exactly the problem that Milo has brought to the surface.

  • Bonnie Madden

    Keep telling the truth. Everything you said is obvious & crystal clear. It seems as though these poor kids are being groomed & will only be chewed up & spit out. Sad future if this trend continues

  • ryu238

    “In the case of Rutger’s student Tyler Clementi, you had a cause célèbre of a pubescent-looking man committing suicide after having been entangled with very shady older men, men with much more sexual experience. The response from society was to blame homophobia rather than to examine the social fallout of boys being available for suggestive interactions with older gay men who want, simultaneously, pleasure and a chance to create a younger mirror for themselves.” He was a college student you jackass! You are sick

  • Mike Painter

    In regards to “It Gets Better,” no one was ever trying to encourage a 7th grader to identify as gay. “It Gets Better” aimed to reach out to young people who found that they were attracted to the same sex after going through puberty and let them know they weren’t worthless garbage for it and could have an (age-appropriate) relationship like anyone else and succeed in life. Being attracted to the same sex is innate and immutable; it begins at puberty and doesn’t “go away.” This is the truth whether you like it or not. No one is “recruiting” kids into being gay. Sorry if that ruins your religion/”gays are evil” narrative.

    Tyler Clementi committed suicide because his roommate made a spectacle out of him, inviting people to bully him for being gay.

    Why can’t you accept that Daley would willingly want to be in the relationship with Black? And he’s a legal adult, so why does it matter? Would you make similar accusations of “seduction” if Black were dating a 19-year-old woman? And besides, if Daley was able to be “seduced” by Black, wouldn’t that mean Daley was already attracted to males? So is not the whole “Being gay is learned by boys from men” narrative rendered false? Do you really think men are coming up to teenage boys who are naturally all about girls and suddenly “turning” them gay by “seducing” them? How would these boys be “seduced” by these men if they liked girls? Why would they consider the men seductive unless they were already attracted to males?

    And then there’s the overall accusation that being around gay people will “sexualize” children. Why? Why the idea that a gay person’s existence revolves entirely around sex? Would people say heterosexual romance in children films is “sexualizing” children? A gay person is not, by virtue of simply being gay, automatically some kind of sex monster/child molester.

    • Charlie Sutton

      It is quite possible that a teen (particularly one whose father has been absent physically or emotionally) might seek to know a father-figure who could give him what he wanted, and so be vulnerable to a predator who used that desire for a emotional connection to a man (a non-sexual connection) as a springboard to a physical relationship. Sexual predators are quite adept at finding emotionally needy young people of either sex and grooming them for a sexual initiation.

      I know a number of same-sex attracted individuals – all were victims of predators who patiently cultivated them until they had physical intimacies with them. And all suffered for decades as a result, with many years in the gay sub-culture. Several got out, but still have scars.

      • Mike Painter

        I don’t deny that sexual predators would take advantage of needy young people. But even you acknowledge that it happens with young people of either sex. So does a man molesting a girl result in the girl growing up to be heterosexual? Of course not. Many would say it would cause her to grow up lesbian. So then, it would be the opposite effect than that with boys. But why would it be that girls would grow averse to men, but boys would come to be sexually drawn to them in a case of molestation? If it were true that every same-sex attracted individual was ill-adjusted or the victim of sexual abuse, I wouldn’t be so skeptical. But that’s not the case. It may very well be that gender non-conforming boys (gender non-conformity predicting adult homosexuality) were simply easier for predators to take advantage of. In other words, their orientation was forming apart from the abuse and the abuse had nothing to do with it. I am very sorry for what happened to these people you know, but I wouldn’t draw the conclusion immediately that they were same-sex attracted because of being abuse victims. I assume you mean a life of promiscuity and lewdness by “gay subculture”? I’m sorry your friends fell into that as a result of the pain of their past experiences, but not all gay people fall into such a life or belong to such a “subculture.”

        • Charlie Sutton

          In fact, many lesbians have been molested by men – which is somewhat paradoxical, I suppose, that molested girls should flee men, and molested boys should seek them. However, as I noted, it is a combination of two things for the adolescent boys: a missing father and the predator working on that desire for an intimate (emotionally) connection to a man, while for a girl it is not the same dynamic in predation. Not to mention the differences between male and female sexual experience, which may well influence the matter. And not everyone who is the victim of a predator goes on to become same-sex attracted, although all are left with emotional wounds.

          • Mike Painter

            “And not everyone who is the victim of a predator goes on to become same-sex attracted, although all are left with emotional wounds.”

            I agree.

  • Kent Novinger

    What Milo advocates for is Moral License. I have noticed it in the libertarian movement for quite some time. I heard him say sometime back that he is “the new face of Conservatism” if he is, then God help us, we indeed have lost our way. When I listened to the tape below, it brought back all the horrors of my childhood, he is sick and perverted, and if we embrace him we are selling our souls to Satan! Can I put it any stronger? I was molested for over a decade starting at the age of six, it is one thing for two consenting adults, they will have to answer for their own sin. Here’s the deal, the elephant in the room that no one dares talk about, the incidence of child abuse among homosexual males is significantly higher than heterosexual males. I understand statistics, and I know how to interpret them also. Over 90% of abuse is committed by men, guesstimates of the ratio between girls abused to boys is 2/1, but boys virtually never talk about their abuse, hence their abuse is under estimated. Next we need to define terms, all male to male abuse is homosexual and all male to female abuse is heterosexual, and all sexual relations between an adult and a minor is child sexual abuse. The Kinsey Report over estimated the number of homosexuals at approximately 10%, more recent studies have it at 3.2% in males and 1.6% in females. Now, as the estimates of males abused increases and the percentage of male homosexuals decreases, that simply means that a significant portion of the 3.2% of males commit approximately 50% of child abuse, or to put it another way, 90% of boys are molested by homosexual males! I am assuming that the ratio of girls to boys is much closer to 1/1. To further complicate the ramifications, 90% of boys are subjected to homosexual abuse, while girls are subjected to heterosexual abuse. The Apostle Paul admonishes us to flee from sexual sin. I have heard that many say all sin is the same, and that is true to the extent all sin has the capacity to condemn us to eternal separation from God. But sexual sin is different. The human brain is malleable, it is referenced as neural plasticity which goes a long way in explaining the human brain studies used by the homosexual lobby to justify homosexuality. All human brain studies are performed on cadavers, quite obviously after the fact. Studies also show that repetitive behaviors create pathways in the brain, much like deep ruts in a muddy road, as it is traveled more the ruts get deeper, imagine a vehicle if you will, soon the ruts are so deep it is almost impossible to extricate the vehicle from it’s tracks, those pathways are referenced as neural pathways, and at some point they become the default behavior, almost impossible to change. Behavior can be modified, Romans 12:2 talks about renewing the mind, but only with the proper help and discipline, and it takes years to undo the damage of aberrant behavior. What we are witnessing is the normalization of deviancy, if we embrace it our society will fall. Moral License is precisely what fuels big government programs. Another pertinent point, as deviancy becomes accepted, you can expect the numbers I have used to rise, it is not genetic, and if it were it would be reasonable to expect the percentages to remain static. That simply means even more abuse of children. Now it is important to understand what I am not saying here also. I am not saying that all homosexuals are child abusers, that should go without saying. It is much like those who smoke have a far greater chance of lung cancer. Now I do know that some will accuse me of being a hater, I have been at this far longer than I care to admit. I will not be deterred by leftist banter, I have endured far worse. If you take issue then I would suggest you address my data instead, good luck with that!

  • Kent Novinger

    Why are my comments being censored?

  • Mike Painter

    Being attracted to the same sex is innate from puberty and permanent through the person’s life. Denying this doesn’t make it untrue: it is supported by every major medical association in the world. It is also self-evident. No one has any motive to choose to be gay. There’s too much to lose and nothing to gain. And no one can “decide” whom they are going to be attracted to. That’s common sense. “It Gets Better” was never about “recruiting” kids into being gay, it was about helping them not feel like they are worthless for being attracted to the same sex. Tyler Clementi committed suicide because of anti-gay bullying. It is a disgrace to Clementi’s memory to assert otherwise. Tom Daley is an adult, Dustin Lance Black is an adult. Their relationship and Daley’s homosexuality were obviously not born of Black’s “seduction” because in order to be seduced by a man, you have to find a man seductive before any successful seducing can happen: ergo, Daley had to have been attracted to men before meeting Black. He is attracted to men because he went through puberty and it happened that way. Not everyone who is gay is a child molester, nor promiscuous, nor lewd. The mere presence of gay people does not “sexualize” children. How does stating these facts violate the rules of commenting? Because you don’t like them?

    • Liza

      In order for a child to have a sexual identity they must be sexualized. How exactly does that happen? You really don’t want to go there I am betting. Can’t have it both ways. The fact is that many children are groomed to be abused exclusively by men as Milo points out. Don’t even bother trying to dress it up. Clementi, most likely committed suicide because a middle aged man took advantage of him. Men happen to sexually violate children much more than women and all gay men are men. Look up catamite–this has been going on for centuries. And people including Milo can talk about what goes on. The victims and Milo was a victim can talk about it without a bunch of men telling them “how it really is.” Sad, broken down and sad.

      • steve51

        Very astute reply Miss Liza. SSA studies have been done ad-nauseam & the facts are indisputable; SSA is, in fact, an “environmental conditioning”! The most comprehensive study, if you can suffer through PDF lit, was done in Australia. I can’t remember the precise link, but a search of SSA/Australia/Twins should do the trick!
        Even the numbers of early, so called ‘legit’ studies bore out the facts of SSA “EC” & they advertised the exact
        purpose of said study! The Australian study was blind with 3,000 identical twins from ALL walks of life! {;~)

        • Mike Painter

          Studies have revealed that it is not wholly genetic. I don’t dispute that. But they do reveal it has to be partly genetic. There is a higher probability of someone being gay if their twin is gay. It is a mix of nature and nurture (and all sexuality may very well be), but can we conclude that it is always negative childhood experiences that play a part in the development of SSA? No. Because not every same-sex attracted/gay person was abused as a child. Perhaps more importantly, wherever SSA originates, we know it cannot simply be changed. If you want to talk about a child being damaged, consider conversion therapy. It has failed to do what people say it can do and has psychologically harmed many children along the way. I wouldn’t even hesitate to call conversion therapy itself sexual abuse. And it’s sexual abuse that doesn’t change one’s orientation. Which would seem to indicate no sexual abuse changes one’s orientation.

          • DCM7

            “wherever SSA originates, we know it cannot simply be changed”

            You could hardly tell a more obvious lie if you tried. There are many successful “ex-gays” (for lack of a better term) who clearly show that to be a lie. They cannot be hidden or explained away.

            I don’t know that a large percentage of “ex-gays” can credit conversion therapy (none that I’ve known personally could), but the idea of its supposed great harmfulness is clearly another big, popular lie. The only grain of truth behind it is that no one should be made to try to “change” against their will.

            Banning conversion therapy isn’t about preventing harm to children. It’s about trying to hide the truth that same-sex attraction can and should be overcome. If you don’t know that, it’s because you don’t want to.

          • Mike Painter

            I listed the possible explanations for ex-gay people in my reply to your first comment. You don’t have to believe them. But those are my thoughts. Conversion therapy has hurt many children. You agree no one should be forced to do it against their will? Well, that should definitely include minors. And why should people be obliged to “overcome” same-sex attraction, if it were possible. People should be able to express their sexuality with an adult relationship if they want. Many gay couples are perfectly happy. If you don’t like seeing men kiss and hold hands, don’t look.

          • steve51

            I am not a hater, but the studies showed NO genetic association with SSA. It is irrefutable. Humans have been making sexual perversions since the dawn of time. It is not now, nor has it ever been exclusive SSA however. It is our fallen nature & I’ll leave it at that! I too am guilty of sexual perversion, it’s called adultery, so I don’t portend judgment on anyone. {;~)

      • Mike Painter

        What child has a sexual identity? I am not talking about prepubescent children. I’m talking about pubescent teenagers. This article references teenagers, and older teenagers at that — teenagers at or past the age of consent, teenagers who are sexually mature. Are we to believe that Clementi and Daley MUST have been molested and “sexualized” as young kids, because “Why else would they be gay?” Clementi committed suicide because he was bullied for being gay. It happens all the time. What does the fact that men are more likely to be child molesters have to do with anything? All that says is that being male makes you more likely to be a child molester, not being gay. And we know not all straight men are child molesters, so why must all gay men be? And no one in the modern world is keeping catamites. It isn’t the same thing.

        • Liza

          Children reach puberty between 8 and 13. LGBT groups want access to 4th graders now why is that? Oh yeah sex ed and so gay kids have support. OMG do you think people don’t notice. Oh and the gay poss books for 1st graders? Come on. If you are talking about “consent” you are already showing an very serious fault line. Kids can’t consent they can be groomed. You know that there are long studies done by the CDC on the transmission of HIV to 13 year olds. Shocking but they are not getting it from other 13 year olds. They are getting from men. Published study look it up. The fact is adult men sexually abuse kids and gay men do it and it is 100% accepted in the culture. I know I was in the lovely LGBT community. Free fact–sodomy is a whole lot more painful. Oh Terry Bean let his catamites go? And Pink News missed the story. I did not say all. I said a shocking number–maybe, not all but lets face it–twink is a thing. Now play this false tune someplace else, your lib friends or distant family that sees 5 times a year. I know what goes on. We raised by you guys.

          • Mike Painter

            What LGBT groups want access to 4th graders? If they do, I’m sure it’s to teach 4th graders that they shouldn’t hate gay people, treat them like garbage, and go on to accuse them of being child molesters. Hardly a bad lesson. Don’t know what a “poss book” is, but probably the same idea with 1st graders. Teaching kids gay people exist and aren’t evil isn’t the same as trying to “turn them gay,” molest them, or whatever. No one is trying to “recruit” kids into being gay. And I know kids can’t give consent. But someone 18+ is not a kid. Daley, Clementi – not kids. Not apt examples of “grooming” at all. And what makes you think 13-year-olds wouldn’t be getting HIV from people their own age? I imagine there are several heterosexual 13-year-olds who’d potentially be at risk. We were taught about HIV in middle school. Was the school under the impression we’d all be molested by a gay man, or were they warning us before we went and had reckless sex with everyone as some teens are tempted to do? And if there is anyone in the LGBT community who accepts child molestation, they are wrong and evil. But a heterosexual might think the same way. Your idea of the LGBT community does not represent every LGBT person. I don’t know anything about Terry Bean, but from what I just Googled, he was falsely accused of molesting a 15-year-old. But no catamites. And yes, I suppose “Twink is a thing,” but since when did “twink” refer to someone under 18?

          • Liza

            The CDC concluded in fact 13 year olds boys were getting HIV from adult males not from other 13 year olds.

            Terry Bean was not false accused perhaps he bought the kid off because his boyfriend who was with Bean and they both raped the kid over and over did not have the charged “disappear” Bean is status quo. Own it, that’s the culture, because we push your face in it 1000 different ways and over and over. Save all the deflections you prove what we are saying you defend rapist and child abusers the whole male gay community thinks it is good fun. Sexualizing children–remember I grew up with you folks. There are more and more of us. Our lived experience does not quite square with all the hype.

    • DCM7

      “Being attracted to the same sex is innate from puberty and permanent through the person’s life. Denying this doesn’t make it untrue”
      No, the fact that it is demonstrably untrue according to many people’s actual experiences makes it untrue.

      “it is supported by every major medical association in the world”
      Some of us know how the medical associations arrived at that position (essentially 100% political pressure, 0% evidence). So trying to cite their position on the subject is a joke.

      “No one has any motive to choose to be gay”
      Sexual issues like same-sex attraction aren’t “chosen” per se; they’re based on a combination of factors, mostly environmental/experiential. They *can* be overcome, no matter how popular it is to deny this, and often are; and those who succeed are far better off. The popular narrative desperately depends on people not recognizing this reality; this is why “ex-gays” are so often bullied into silence.

      • Mike Painter

        If medical associations were really under such political pressure, then they would be saying it is 100% biological. But they don’t say that. They say it is partly biological. And they even say sexuality can be fluid. However, they also say that is not so fluid that it could do a complete 180-degree change. I never said it wasn’t environmental to a degree. I am saying it forms in early childhood (though to tie it to childhood trauma is jumping to conclusions; not all gay people report trauma) and most likely will stay consistent. If I can’t cite doctors without being a joke, who can I cite? Priests? Because they’re objective. As far as “ex-gays,” I acknowledge there are people who claim to have changed their sexual orientation. And they seem to be speaking pretty freely. It’s only because their voice is so small that they seem not to have one. There aren’t many of them. The reason I’m skeptical of their stories is because they always seem to have something in their lives that would give them reason to hide their sexuality after initially disclosing it. A friend or family member reacted very negatively, for example. Or they may just desperately want to change to avoid social stigma, so they deceive themselves into thinking they did. Religious, conservative, “traditional” family, friends, and colleagues may have a strong enough hold on a person’s life that they are afraid to sever those ties by being honest about their sexuality. Further, they may have been bisexual the whole time. They may have not known what “being gay” meant, believed they could totally be gay if they wanted to, and realized they couldn’t after “trying it.” There are several explanations for “ex-gays.”

  • How is what Milo has said any worse than Dan Savage, for example?

    • Carolyn Putney

      What difference does that make?! Whether or not it is “worse than,” makes no difference…..it is all horrible. Do you have any idea how sickening this is???!!! For anyone to even entertain the notion that sex with children is acceptable is revolting. I was sexually abused, raped several times a week because of jackasses that lived around us. It took YEARS of intensive therapy, and the grace of God, to get me through it; but I will continue to live with it for the rest of my life.
      When I hear of this, a rage surfaces at the sheer stupidity and selfishness of these people! Go do whatever lewid behavior you want to do, but leave the children out of it! That includes talking about it to any child in grades K-12. All it is is grooming them for your own perversion, and that is exactly what it is. It may feel good to you, but it sure as hell does not feel that way to the child!

      • Michael Gore

        I think that last part of your comment shows where a lot of the problem lies. You say “Go do whatever lewid behavior you want to do, but leave the children out of it!” But when a society adopts this kind of reasoning, then the “leave the children out of it” becomes arbitrary, and doesn’t hold up for long. After all, to our secular culture, there is really no principled reason to “leave the children out of it” anymore. Society has cast of the very idea of objective right and wrong, so has no ground to stand on to draw lines on behavior anymore. This is what it looks like when a culture is under judgement and has been given over by God.

        Biblically, we should never be on board with any sort of any relative view of morality. When culture says “right and wrong are a matter of opinion”, we need to be the voices saying “No, some things are right and some things are wrong no matter how we feel about them”. That is the point that we are failing as a Church right now. What happened to you when you were younger was Wrong and Evil, and would be so even if you or anybody else believed that it was. After all, the argument is now shifting from mere consent being all that is needed for sexual acts to be moral, to now discussing how young a person can be and still give consent.

        I hope you can continue to recover from the abuse you received. On the issue of morality for those interested I would highly recommend “Relativism: Feet firmly planted in mid-air” by Greg Koukl to refine ones thinking on that issue!

        • Carolyn Putney

          I just read your comment and I need to clarify something. I didn’t mean to imply that other types of deviant behavior is acceptable as long as children are not involved. I was careless in how I worded it.
          I agree with you. We can’t condone one thing and then turn a blind eye to other things that are sinful. The rise of pornography within the body of a church I believe is where it begins.

          We who profess to be followers of Christ have become just as unmoved at some things than we should be. We need revival.

  • Kent Novinger

    Why does this site continue to censor my comments???

  • O’Pinyon

    Thank you, Robert Oscar Lopez.
    Your comments here give a glimpse of the significance of what you have to say.
    May God bless you and amplify your voice, and give you success in standing up for the rights of children..

  • Jodi La Chance

    Thank you for this well-written article. You present a strong argument supported with evidence. I am in complete agreement with you about the vulnerability of children and the need to fully protect them from abuse and exploitation. The points you make are both sobering and disturbing in their reality.

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