What is Christianity’s Place in Politics?

By The Stream Published on October 27, 2018

What role should Christianity play in politics? Should the Church engage in and discuss political matters? As Frank Turek, Ph.D., points out, “you can be totally into politics and think it’s a savior for everything — it’s not.” But, “your ability to preach the gospel legally is based on politics.” In this video, Turek discusses the balance.

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  • Kimberly Mcbride

    1 Peter 4:17
    For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

    • swiftboat

      That process is not yet complete.

  • Paul

    Too many Christians have been duped with the phrase ‘separation of church and state.’ The Constitution doesn’t say that. It doesn’t separate church and state, it doesn’t keep the church out of the state, it keeps the state out of the church. The govt is limited by the Constitution, the Constitution does not limit the church. The Constitution affirms the free exercise of religion such that the govt can’t interfere with the church, nor can the govt establish its own religion.

    • davidrev1911

      If, as you say, the “state is to be kept out of the church,” nor “can the govt. interfere with the church” – according to the First Amendment of our US Constitution – then please explain why most American “church” denominations and/or “Parachurch religious organizations,” have willingly-and-freely “chosen” to come under the SOLE “headship” of Caesar, by becoming these totally UNbiblical “two-headed monstrosities” called “state-licensed” 501(c)(3) business corporations [i.e., IRS-CONTROLLED “artificial persons”], as a result of its zealously accepting the mammon-related enticements provided within the language of the [1954] Johnson Amendment?? (BTW: What about the stern warning in 1 Timothy 6:10?)

      The Holy Bible refers to such SIN as spiritual harlotry, in no uncertain terms; since the true “Head” of the “Body of Christ” is the Lord Jesus Christ alone. Thus the TRUE Church, or Body of Christ, is a living/breathing “spiritual” organism, comprised of genuine individual blood-bought children of the Most High God, living in “nation-states” throughout planet earth.

      This is why the Lord Jesus warned His individual followers, to “render unto Caesar, that which belongs to Caesar” – meaning the paying of individual taxes, obeying “just laws” etc. – “and to God, that which belongs to God.” Notice the unmistakably clear distinction, or demarcation being made by Jesus here, between our duties & responsibilities as individual citizens of nation-states, and our responsibilities as individual “members of His Body”??

      Obviously, that’s called “separation of Church and State.” And this must be why the Apostle Paul tells us in Philippians 3:20, that “our [true] citizenship is in heaven”; meaning genuine children of God literally retain “dual citizenship” responsibilities while living in these earthbound fleshly bodies, whose SOLE “Head” is the Lord alone – and certainly NOT Caesar – since His true children are “members of His Body.”

      Yet tragically, IRS [state-controlled] 501(c)(3) Churchianity, with all of their state-licensed preachers/pastors, so typical of church congregations & religious organizations conducting their business throughout this United States – whereby Caesar [or Congress] has indeed “made laws” regarding the same, in spite of the clear language in the First Amendment, thus the UNHOLY marriage between Church & State in America – is a horribly distasteful perversion, of this unmistakably clear biblical truth.

      And wholesale repentance of this unimaginable SIN, of which we’re no doubt guilty before a “three-times Holy” God – is our only available option.

      • Kevin Quillen

        Thank you brother! Perfect analysis. I have been calling on all churches to reject the tax exemption and boldly support Christians for office at all levels. People who will adhere to Constitutional principles and never bow to politics and the party line. Imagine how much could be accomplished if there was a giant political action committee funded by all churches. We could turn things around and return to the principles of the republic.

      • Paul

        You bring up something most Christians haven’t even considered. Untangling that web will take a slew of changes in both the Church and Govt (fed and individual states) that deal with civil matters of defining the entity, property ownership, liability, contracts, holding money, etc.

        Having been involved in church corp constitution and bylaws revision I’ve seen first hand how the church in the US is being defined by civil laws.

        • davidrev1911

          Paul:

          I was struck by your transparent admission, whose precise causal “source” for such insight, could’ve only been the “Holy Spirit of Truth” Himself.

          However, my heart truly carries a heavy burden for you now, since it’s obvious that the Lord has sovereignly deposited this irrefutably challenging factual “truth” – directly into your heart & life; for which genuine repentance is your ONLY option now, as it was mine, after having this exact issue sovereignly placed into my heart about two-years ago – after having been a child of God for some 20-years.

          I was literally “undone” by its painfully obvious implications during a period of about three months, through which process I’d become almost obsessed in deep-study re: this profoundly disturbing, and truly insidious mode of so-called Christianity – a clearly UNbiblical mode of genuine orthodox historical Christianity, from A-to-Z at that – with which we professing American Christians have been mind-numbingly [and blindly] captivated for more than six-decades now….almost like sheep being led to the proverbial slaughter.

          And I continue to study the historical & legal facts foundational to just how WE got into this spiritually devastating “Catch-22” as well; through and by OUR having swallowed the mammon-related enticements [hook-line-and-sinker] that’d been legislatively presented to us, within the language of the 1954 Johnson Amendment. I’m now convinced that the very “author” of this humiliating masterstroke of spiritual brilliance against the corporate professing Church in this United States – could’ve only been the “adversary of men’s souls.” Plus the evidence for such demonic-premised victory that’s been leveled against WE American Christian’s [by the adversary] in this day-and-age, surely doesn’t take a rocket scientist to discern.

          Please don’t ignore this issue. I’ve simply done what the Holy Spirit has moved me to do – so now the response is between you, and the “God and Father of our Lord Yeshua-Jesus, the Messiah.” Also, please know that this has been an ongoing issue within the Church in this country ever since the early 80’s; as the Lord has since raised-up many Christian legal ministries to aid pastors & congregations through the arduously painful process of repentance, i.e., meaning wholesale disentanglement from the outright control of Caesar.

          And liberation/freedom from the excessive bondage surrounding this SIN of spiritual harlotry, through one’s diligent obedience to the Master – will only come at a very steep “price” however. So be it; because the corporate guilt, or blame for this horrible spiritual mess in which we’re currently entangled, is upon US alone. We simply have no one else to blame!

          So you might want to start your research with ministries like the “Biblical Law Center,” or begin a thorough study of what’s available on Constitutional Law expert & biblical scholar, brother Jerald Finney’s website; since Mr. Finney actually used to be a distinguished attorney with the Alliance Defending Freedom [or ADF], until the Holy Spirit began dealing with him years ago about this matter. Plus, Jerald Finney is also the National Director & In-House Counsel for the Biblical Law Center. May God bless you & yours immensely my brother!

          ▪ ▪ ▪ ▪

          “No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.” (Matthew 6:24/ESV)

          “So whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin.” (James 4:17/ESV)

          “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge; because you have rejected knowledge, I reject you from being a priest to me. And since you have forgotten the law of your God, I also will forget your children.” (Hosea 4:6ff/ESV…but please notice the context, beginning in verse 1.)

          “For it is time for judgment to begin at the household of God; and if it begins with us, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God?And “If the righteous is scarcely saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?” (1 Peter 4:17-18/ESV)

          “My brothers, if anyone among you wanders from the truth and someone brings him back, let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.” (James 5:19-20/ESV)

          • Paul

            Thanks I’ll do some digging on those resources, if you have any others please let me know.

          • Paul

            I can forget about sleeping the next few nights, the little bit I’ve investigated thus far is amazing. It is filling in so many details of concepts I’ve been bothered by for years.

          • davidrev1911

            God bless ya man! May you at least be able to squeeze-in a couple of power-naps though. I remember being SO mesmerized by this “revelation” as well, when first confronted by this truth – as its content & profound implications is truly “amazing” indeed…almost beyond belief! I surely don’t envy what you’ll probably be “led” to do either, as this sinks-in with certifiable impact.

            Have a very blessed day my brother!

  • swiftboat

    What is our place? We are the Givers , giver. We are charged to bring God’s will to the earth.

  • False premise: It is not Christianity that is to be subservient.

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