Is Antisemitism Making a Comeback in America?

Is antisemitism making a terrifying comeback in America? In this 32-minute conversation, Peter Demos speaks with Rabbi Dr. Steve Weil, CEO of Friends of the IDF, to discuss the rise of radical antisemitism — from elite college campuses to the halls of Congress. Weil shares how foreign funding, progressive ideology and media silence have created a moral and cultural crisis — and why Israel stands at the epicenter of it all.

Peter Demos is the author of On the Duty of Christian Civil Disobedience and the host of Uncommon Sense in Current Times. A Christian business leader from Tennessee, Demos uses his biblical perspective and insight gained from his own struggles to lead others to truth and authenticity in a broken world. To learn more, visit peterdemos.org.

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[Applause] Revolution of common sense. Revolution of common sense. A revolution of common sense. Truth was once common sense, but today truth is uncommon. Explore biblical truths around faith, business, and politics with Peter Deus. Uncommon sense in Current [Music] Times. Hey folks, welcome to Uncommon Sense in Current Times. I’m excited today to be with Rabbi Dr. Steve While. He is the current CEO of the Friends of the Israel Defense Force, a uh a major nonprofit supports the the well-being and education of the IDF soldiers and

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their families. He formerly served as the senior managing director of the Orthodox Union and was a pulpit rabbi at Beth Jacob Congregation in Beverly Hills. Um he is known for bringing Orthodox Jewish leadership with broader Jewish and interfaith communities. So uh so Rabbi, thank you so much for coming on. I appreciate you being here. Peter, it’s a great honor to be on your show. So the lot going on obviously with Israel with with with just the Jewish people as a whole going across the the in the United States and in the world. I

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I I think probably the biggest thing that I keep seeing and noticing is the rise of anti-semitism that’s not under the surface as it used to be say 20 years ago. It seems to be everywhere. Uh are you seeing this being different than past times where you’ve seen anti-semitism or even in history where you’ve seen it? Are you seeing something that makes this one more unique than other times? I would say this. You know, there’s been different times in Jewish history where the Jews had a great run. Just to give

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you an example, Poland. You know, when you think of Poland, you think of more slaughtered Jews than any other place in history. But we had a 300y year good run there until it wasn’t until thing in the catalyst there was the uh the Ukrainian KC revolt against the Polish Catholics. And then they ended up slaughtering the Jews and blaming the Jews for that in 1648 to 1653. But I’m I’m just using that as an example. The Jews have had a good run in America the last 120 years and it’s over. You know, think what

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we’ve seen since October 7th is a sea change, a radical sea change. And it’s it’s tragic, but this has been our history. Now take the spiritual component out of it because you’re right throughout history throughout and and and in and every country that that that is I’ve probably been in the in this world uh that’s had any level of significance we we’ve we’ve seen this level of attack and so I’m curious though um because here in the United States there was always something that kind of triggered it as you said you know there

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was like you know they were blamed for something there was something that was under the current in the United States, it seemed like, at least for me, it caught me off guard. Like I was shocked when all of a sudden it just seemed like it it appeared to me like it came up overnight. But again, I’m looking at it from the outside. Am was I right in that or was there certain things that kind of started triggering and and moving it down that road? Well, if we were going to speak on a on a broader sociological level, I think

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part of the challenge we faced in America, whether your family is centrist, whether they’re center right, whether they’re center left, let’s call it the majority of Americans, you know, this from the center left or center right, for the most part, those families did not raise their children to become school teachers, to become educators. They raised them to do many other things. And for the last 50, 60 years, not just on the university campuses, but the large majority of our educators and teachers are coming from the far woke

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left, from the far progressive left. It’s a it’s an attitude and a culture that doesn’t respect facts, that’s into brainwashing, that doesn’t respect religion, that doesn’t respect history. And instead of it being, you know, an educator is meant to teach our children, our grandchildren how to think, teach them a methodology of how to think, these people are brainwashers. They’re not educators. And the problem in America is is that they’ve been doing this for 60 years to a much greater degree the last 20 years. And we see

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unfortunately the quality of the education American children are receiving relative to what we used to receive. That doesn’t bode well for a community, whether it’s a Christian community, whether it’s a Jewish community that is committed to a value system, is committed to objective standards of morality, of ethics, it doesn’t bode well at all. And unfortunately, tragically, America, which is the greatest country on earth, America that has really been the defender of humanity, that’s been the beacon of democracy with all of our

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warts and pimples that we have in America. It’s the greatest nation on earth. And you’ve got a a population that’s trying to undermine America, trying to blame America for everything. It’s in and what they’ve done is they’ve ignored most of the last 300 years of American history. But when I see what’s happening, let’s just take on our college campuses, it’s uniquely targeted toward really one group and one person. The the the person is Trump and and the and the group and and I’m not not just saying

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they’re not other people involved, but there there seems to be they’re louder, I think, in relation to him. And then the group is the Jewish people. Um especially after you know October 7th and um you know and and you know you know just to see the the the tragedy that unfolded there and then turn right around and be like oh no we we’re we’re going to protest against Israel seems to me that there was something else that was happening along those lines. something that was occurring along those lines. Um, I guess

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from your perspective and from talking to the people, I would recommend for everybody to read Douglas Murray’s new book. Okay. Democracies and death cults on democracies and death cults. He goes into that. Why on European and American campuses did did this happen? I’m just trying to find the full name of the book. I apologize while we’re talking. Well, and I was just curious like just from your perspective though, it had to have been a kind of a shock um to to see it seem to have that type of turn and

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that type of reaction or was it? Well, let’s put it like this. No one expected it to be as furious and ugly. Now, a lot of it has to do this was Qatarian money. you know, the Muslim Brotherhood, which is a radical theology in Islam. They’ve been expelled from the the uh Saudi Arabia. They’ve been expelled from the United Arab Emirates. They’re illegal. They’re incarcerated in Egypt. Many of them never make it out of prison. And what happens here in the United States under this under the first amendment and in England and in France

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and in Belgium, you’ve got mosques all over this country and all over Europe that are preaching a theology that cannot tolerate Jews or Christians, anyone that’s defined as a demian infidel to be controlling land that they believe al-Islam that they believe is Muslim territory. So it’s not just Jerusalem and Israel, it’s Spain, it’s the Balkan states, it’s France, it’s Italy. And the ultimate goal obviously is the destruction of of Christianity and Western civilization. Their problem is is that

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the Israel, tiny little Israel and its and its army, which is a pretty significant army, the IDF is standing in their way. That’s their problem. But but I’ll give you an example. over the course of this war. Saudi Arabia that doesn’t have official relations with Israel, the UAE that does, the the more moderate Sunni Muslim countries, they can’t understand how the United States, how France, how Britain, other European nations, how can they tolerate this sick, you know, death cult that that of called the Muslim

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Brotherhood to to run rampant in Western countries when they have expelled it from their own countries because it’s a perversion, a corruption of Islam, of Sunni Islam. They can’t understand how stupid we are all under the guise of the first amendment. You know, the first amendment doesn’t allow you to yell fire in a packed theater. It doesn’t allow a death cult like like the Muslim Brotherhood to to come into our country and produce terrorists. Here the name of the book, and it’s a worthwhile read.

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It’s not a long read, but a very worthwhile read on democracies and death cults, Israel and the future of civilization. And he in that book addresses the issue, Peter, that you’re that you’re bringing up. What is his what what is the author’s name again? Doug, he’s fascinating. Douglas Murray is is a British journalist. Okay. who actually goes to the countries and experiences what he writes about as opposed to sitting, you know, in Beverly Hills or Washington DC and becoming an arbiter on the rest of the world. Right.

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Okay. That’s cool. I will definitely put that and I’m going to put that in the show notes um below as well. I mean, we have a Peter, we got a real problem here. The the the Arab nations, and I include Turkey, which is not an Arab nation, but a Muslim nation. I include them with it. The largest of them all is Qatar. They’ve spent 13 billion dollars investing in American campuses. 13 billion dollars. Think about I don’t care how wealthy in America someone is. So maybe they give a million, they give

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10 million to a campus. These guys have put 13 billion dollars in the last 20 years. They’re they’re poisoning they’re poisoning the minds of our youth. So I I actually want to tie this in with the IDF, but before because I I have I have a link there question, but but you just made me think of something else. But a lot of these students that hit this campus, though, you know, they they haven’t been on campus that long. A lot of them came from high schools from that type of stuff. It seems like they even came in

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with that mindset at least or they’re just wanting to find a purpose in something. And these are the people that seem to be screaming and having a purpose. So they want to join whatever it is regardless of whether they understand the conflict, whether they understand what from the river to the sea means. Well, you know, it it doesn’t matter what they understand or not. They just want to be part of it. Is that it’s problem? Well, well, there’s there’s two factors. One is keep in mind most of the

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instigators are not students. They’re professionals who are being paid, right? Many of the people are being paid to go onto the campuses. And yes, there are students. And it’s it’s fascinating when you confront the students say which river they say from the river. River to the sea is a genocide of the annihilation of Israel. They don’t know which river they don’t know which sea. Then when you talk to the gays and the lesbians and you describe what happens to a gay and a lesbian in Gaza, well they say you’re pinkwashing Israel. So

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what do you mean we’re pinkwashing Israel? Meaning well then you share with them the facts. Do you know there’s a whole Palestinian community in Israel who will be murdered by their own tribes because they’re gays and lesbians and they’re living free in Tel Aviv? You know, do you know that that Israel’s 20% Muslim, but yet 35% of all doctors are Muslim, 50% of all pharmacists are Muslim? The Supreme Court justice is a female Muslim. The only country on earth where a female Muslim is a Supreme Court

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justice. And they they they don’t they’re not interested in the facts. The facts don’t matter. See, that’s the problem. We have we have a population on our campuses that’s anti-intellectual, that’s anti-rational. But there’s a great line that Vladimir Lenon when they overthrew the Zars, he called them the useful idiots. He says, “We could have never overthrown thesar and the Zar’s regime without the useful idiots. But that’s okay. after we took over, we took control of the country, we got rid of

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them as well. And he was referring to these college students, right? And that’s the college students you see in Oxford, Cambridge. Clearly, that’s the college students you see in Colombia and Harvard. These are not bright people. These are not rational people. And it’s it’s a tragedy that these great institutions that produce so many Nobel Prize winners now basically are are the source of hatred of racism. They’re the source of of filth and vile behavior. They’re the source of disrespect. There

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there are institutions that that that have no respect for morality, ethics, for human decency, for human dignity, for justice. It’s a tragedy and you know it it it’s it’s a black mark on the United States and it’s a black mark on the future of our country. Now you and I know that there happen to be other universities that are great educational and that have replaced Colombia, replaced Cornell, replaced Harvard, replaced Brown. You know, we’re seeing a sea change in where the the intellectual community is going, where the moral

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community is going, where the community that that is rooted in human dignity and humanity is going. So, so transitioning this to the IDF because you have soldiers that are an incredibly trained group of soldiers who are constantly uh uh a aware that at any point in time there could be something to happen uh to them to their country. Uh it is but they but they had support from the US. they had support from these areas and now all of a sudden at least through the media it appears that the US is against them.

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Um there’s a lot of that stuff. How does that impact the morale of just the everyday soldier that happens to be there that that that that that’s with the IDF and does that impact them at all? Oh, did you hit the nail on the head, Peter? There’s a real sense of isolation. Look, it’s it’s changed since the change of the administration. You had, you know, Arabists, you know, I’m talking about ant Israel haters in the State Department and the Biden administration, not because they were anti-Israel. I I don’t think you’d call

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Tony Blinken or Jake Sullivan or General Austin anti-Israel, but they were they refused to override the State Department, the bureaucrats in the State Department who are clearly anti-Israel. That changed day one with the Trump administration. So to a certain degree, those soldiers in Israel, they feel a little bit less isolation now. But what they don’t what what what is perplexing to them, I’ll give you one statistic. Never before in human history has there been a more moral ethical war than this war. What do I mean by that?

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When the enemy, I’m talking about, you know, the Palestinian rapists and the Palestinian baby murderers, the kamas, the Muslim Brotherhood kamas, when they use human shields, they they use their own population as human shields. They dress as civilians. They don’t dress in uniforms. So, historically, the rate is about 9 to one. Nine civilians die for every combatant in an in an ahistoric I’m sorry, in an asymmetric war where the enemy is not dressed in a uniform, right? the asymmetric urban war. You

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know what the numbers are now? No one will ever accuse the United Nations of being pro-Israel. Right. Right. Right. It’s 1.1 to one. I I don’t believe those numbers. I think it’s much less than that. But the United Nations is saying that of the 49,000 deaths, 20 over 20,000 were terrorists. They believe that 22,000 were civilians died as a function of the war. And they believe that 7 to 8,000 were either murdered by kamas or died of natural causes. That’s what that’s what the numbers they are using. I don’t believe it’s that high. I

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believe it’s much less than that. But 1.1 to1 take America. We are we are an incredibly moral army. But when our American contractors were killed in Fallujah on the t on the Euphrates River in Persian Gulf, too. Yeah. We sent in the 100 airborne. We sent in the Marines. We took over Fallujah at a rate of 23 civilians for every one combatant. When British and American forces took over Mosul, a crucial city in Iraq, 30 to1 was the ratio. And those are ethical moral armies. This is not the way the

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Russian army acts. Israel is 1.1 to1. By the way, if you ask if you ask me, it’s probably 7:1 ratio. But the UN is calling it I’m using their numbers 1.1 to one. Never in history, Peter, never in history has there been a more ethical moral war. And that’s what that’s that’s you’re talking an enemy that’s using human shields. That didn’t happen in other wars. What’s my point? And then they see what the ICC and the ICJ are doing, what the the European nations are doing, what was coming out of the State

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Department, you know, what was coming out of the UN and they don’t understand. They don’t understand where is the morality of Western civilization. the very Western civilization that these soldiers are defending from a death cult from from Palestinian rapist, Palestinian baby killers. I I mean, I tell you, I interviewed the people that put the body parts together and how they found the bodies. We’re talking about burning children alive. We’re talking about, you know, they were taking they were taking hammers and crushing skulls

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of infants in front of their parents. They were beheading children. You know, everyone knows that the accounts of the rapes of the the Israeli women, but they raped Israeli men. You don’t know how many Israeli men these kamas raped. This is who this is who they are def they’re defending against these animals. They’re not animals. An animal would never act that way. And and they don’t understand. And this is the point you’re making, Peter. They don’t understand. How does the West not appreciate the sacrifice

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they’re making, the humanity of this war, the morality of this war? So, and then then what keeps them restrained? I I mean, from my personal side of things, you where where if somebody were to, you know, basically say, “Look, we’re going to accuse you of all these nefarious things regardless of whether I’m doing it or not.” at some point in time I I would almost feel like I would want to say well you’re going to accuse me of it I might as well make it worth my while you know I mean you know and but but but there is so much

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restraint on the soldiers and not just and I know there’s some exceptions and I know somebody listening to this can send me an article where there would be something or one individual I I recognize that but for the for for for the the army as a whole that they’re they’re showing so much restraint and in how they do it. How do they maintain that restraint knowing that that there is this this morale issue that they’re facing? Knowing that it seems like even no matter how good of a job they’re doing, it seems so hard for them to be

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able to do so, but they’re doing it. Do do you have any insight on how they’re able to to maintain themselves that way? Well, there are two factors. One factor is you know that is the Jewish ethic and Jewish morals and that every unlike kamas every human being is a human being. Every human being is created in the image of God whether you’re a Jew or a Gentile you know it’s it’s not like the kamas and look we see their textbooks you know right Jews are apes Jews are pigs and they quote the Quran

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and the role is to behead the behead the ape and behead the pig. Now, so we’re not human beings. Whereas Jewish children are raised, they are human beings and they have the same image of God in them bestowed in them that a Jew does. That’s number one. Number two is every officer in the IDF can quote, you wake them up 2:30 in the middle of the night and they can quote that Israeli code of ethics. They believe it. It becomes embedded in their heart and their mind and they train the soldiers. The soldiers have to carry with them the

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Israeli code of ethics. And the the the worst punishment is for a soldier violating. And there are individuals, absolutely there are individual soldiers who end up being court marshaled and discharged, right? And it and it’s a black mark. They they’ll never get a decent job after acting that way. There’s a culture of of treating every human being like a human being. And by the way, it’s fascinating. They know that well over 65 70% of Gaza subscribes to that that horrific theology. The the Qatarian theology,

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it’s the theology that’s outlawed in Egypt now. And they’re c they just caused trouble. They tried to overthrow King Hussein in Jordan, King Abdullah, I’m sorry in Jordan. They they they know that 70% of the population subscribes to the Muslim Brotherhood of theology. But they said that’s not a capital offense. You don’t you you don’t kill someone. You don’t punish someone for that. They’re only targeting those who are who are bearing arms against them. Those who are Palestinian Islamic jihad or kamas, you

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know, that’s who they’re trying to stop, which is probably 50 60,000 I’m sorry, 50 to 60,000 of a population of 2.2 million. Even though they know that 70% of the population of the Gaza wants them dead, wants them eradicated, but that’s not a capital crime. That’s not a corporal crime. That’s not a crime. It just means they hate you. But you don’t you don’t punish someone for that. That’s this that’s the mentality of of the Israeli soldier. So what can we do as a nation as as Christians um uh I either either group

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when we’re looking at what’s happening and what and how we can support these soldiers who are going through this who are trying to understand this who sees what’s happening on campuses. Uh what can we do to to help in this in this uh because I mean obviously you know we can’t go over there pick up a gun necessarily. I guess the US can send troops in or whatever, but but but as far as like me, like what can I personally do to to help in this situation? Cuz I think so so much of it’s like it’s over there and it’s so

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big and so long it feels completely helpless and worthless to try to do something. There feels like there has to be something we can do. Well, I would say there are three things. First and foremost is prayer. you know, whether it’s Psalm 121, Psalm 130, Psalm 142, Psalm 120. When you think about the UN, when you think about the the social media, the Tik Tok with the algorithms from China, I would think of Psalm 120 for that one, you know. Um, that’s first and foremost, and I I thank you for asking, Peter. Secondly

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is look, we don’t tell the Israelis what they need. The general staff, those who run the army and those who run the Ministry of Defense, they come to us with their most critical urgent needs that they don’t have budget for. If they have budget for it, they don’t ask us. So you’ll see on FIDF.org, FIDF, Friends of the IDF, FIDF.org, RG. We’re spending $28 million on bereaveved families. There’s 310 brand new widows, 710 brand new orphans, 3,100 kids who’ve lost an older brother or older sister in this

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war. There we’re spending a hundred raising $118 million for PTSD therapy. The worst thing that happened after the Yamukipa war was not just that they lost 2,700 young men as soldiers, but another 10% never led a functional life because of PTSD. Think about our Vietnam vets here in America. Think about our Persian Gulf, too, right? the Afghan and the and the Iraqi veterans what what what they’ve gone through and what they’re doing and we’re funding it in terms of getting every soldier that has symptoms

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of depression, symptoms of isolation, symptoms of anxiety, subaccute PTSD before it boils out into full-blown PTSD. getting them serious therapy, training therapists who have no background because there’s a shortage of therapists, managing those therapists, setting up facilities across throughout the length and breadth of the country, service dogs to take, you know, art therapy, you name it. Pharmacological help with psychiatrists who are trained in in which drugs help the the the fact that the neurotransmitters are not what

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they used to be. Um, that’s f.org. And again, I want to make this very clear. Unlike the Red Cross, you know, that really it funds itself from catastrophe due to catastrophe because that’s when people give to the Red Cross. When there’s a hurricane, a tornado, anything that goes to the war effort, zero overhead, 100% goes to the soldiers. It goes, it’s transferred to those departments of the Ministry of Defense, to those departments of the army that deal with that. And then the third thing is you

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need to make your voices heard to your your congressmen and your senators. There are a lot of senators and congressmen who are on whether it’s the intelligence community, I’m sorry, the intelligence subcommittee who have a background in military who know the facts, who understand what Iran is, that it is it is the the Hitler of today, that their goal is world domination. When they speak about the great Satan, they’re not just talking about America. America is a poster child. The great Satan is Christianity. It’s Western

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civilization. That’s their ultimate goal. What’s standing in their way? The IDF. What’s standing in their way? Tiny little Israel. That’s what’s standing in their way. But their ultimate goal is Christianity and Western civilization. And most elected officials don’t get it. Look, there’s, you know, how many elected officials don’t even have a passport? They don’t get it. They’re not thinking outside of this country. They don’t understand these trends in the world. You know, what China is looking

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to do long term, what Iran and its eight proxies, the Shia caliphate, what they’re trying to do in terms of how they want to change history, how they want to change this world. So, not every congressman, not every senator is thinking in those terms. And it’s very crucial to work with them. You know, one thing about Israel, the intelligence that Israel shares with the United States, the technology that Israel gives the United States, it’s a beautiful relationship. It’s a two-way relationship. Israel is not big enough

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of an economy to produce F-35s. You know, we have Loheed Martin, we have Boeing. Israel can’t do those things. Okay. On the other hand, Israel’s intelligence community, Israel’s technology community, I mean, think about how many American lives have been saved just by the the medical technology on the battlefield from Israel. So, we’re talking about real partners. That’s why when you talk to people in the military, they’re most incredibly pro-Israel you’ll ever meet because they know the facts and they know they know

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what’s out there and they know what Iran is and what Iran represents. They know what Qatar is. They know what Turkey and Erdogan is. Look, if Erdogan had the power, he’s destroyed his economy. He’d be trying to do on a Sunni level what what the Ayatollah and what the Iranian Republican Guard Corps, what they’ve been doing over the last 30 years. If Erdogan had his way, he would be doing that for Turkey. He said it as much. He wants to reestablish a Sunni caliphate and he wants to be the Khalif. He’s a

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bad guy. He’s a sick bad guy. Okay? He’s just a different version of the Shia in in Tehran. But we as Americans, we’re not thinking about that. We’re thinking about the NFL draft. Now it’s the NBA and NHL playoffs. You know, we’re thinking about whatever. We’re just not thinking about that stuff. But the guys who have fought abroad, our American soldiers, they get it. They understand it. And unfortunately, not all of our elected officials understand what a dangerous world and what dangerous actors we’re dealing with.

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Well, sadly, I I agree with you. Um, and I and I think what you’re doing is so important and I and I appreciate all that you’re doing and in supporting the IDF because I I don’t think people recognize the the I don’t think they recognize the impact that Israel has on just on every piece of it, both our security as well as our economy. Um, you know, the I’m I’m always surprised and I’m surprised at how few people want to talk about Israel as well here in the United States. So, I appreciate you you

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being able to do so, for being upfront talking about it. Um, for those that are listening, again, for for to learn more about this, you go to the fdif.org. Um, and fitf.org. Yep. Yes. Yes. And so I because again it’s it’s a great organization and I and I and I again I appreciate what you’re doing with it and um and I and I hope um and I hope that that people will start to wake up here and not let it get uh continue down the path it’s going. So again, I thank you so much for coming on the show and talking with me about this.

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Well, you’re really at the front line, you know, of we’re in a battle right now for the future of this century. Is this century going to be rooted in ethics, morality, in in humanity and justice, or is it going to be rooted in in evil, hypocrisy? Is it going to be rooted in in in educational institutions that don’t care about the facts, that are not interested in the truth? It’s it’s a we’re we’re we’re have a real challenge. Now, the reality is we have incredible Americans. We have incredibly decent Americans. On the

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other hand, we have some very very significant forces that want to do to our society, to our world, what what the socialists did in the world there. You know, think about in socialism, the facts and truth didn’t matter, right? We took away all all of the ability of of a thoughtful human being to think to think autonomously. Everything that that religion teaches us, everything that American values have taught us, they’re trying to undermine. And and and that’s the battleground. And and by the way,

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that’s why that’s why Israel is so threatening to them. That’s why Israel is so dangerous to them. Well, again, I do appreciate it. And um and and for those who are listening, I encourage you to learn more about it. Um learn more about what’s going on, learn more about your organization. And um again, I greatly appreciate you coming on to the show and talking with me about this, Peter. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. [Music]